________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. S'pop Message Format From: S'pop Projects 2. Eclipse Twist; Peter Udell & Gary Geld. From: Julio Niņo 3. Re: Cruisin' series From: Irving Snodgrass 4. The Dixie Cups stranded in Tampa after Katrina From: Laura Pinto 5. Re: DC5 HOF? From: Regina Litman 6. Need help ID.ing songs / band / record From: Hugo M 7. Miller & Porter From: ACJ 8. Re: Brooks Arthur From: Artie Wayne 9. Helen Miller - chronology / Teddy Vann From: Davie Gordon 10. Pookie Snackenberg From: FrankM ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:34:16 +0100 From: S'pop Projects Subject: S'pop Message Format If the cap fits, may we request that you please, oh please, pay attention to this message. For better or worse, Spectropop is a moderated group. Every message is checked and approved before appearing on the board. Consequently, posts are routinely edited for format and content by our moderators, all of whom are unpaid volunteers. To keep their workload to a minimum, may we remind you to PLEASE make sure your posts are as close as possible to the following layout: START OF SAMPLE MESSAGE = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Subject: overview of message [OR Re: existing thread] [but NOT "Spectropop Digest Number xxxxx"] Previous sender's name: > The relevant part of the message to which you are > replying. Your reply or supplementary question. And please always put your name at the end. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = END OF SAMPLE MESSAGE Many thanks, The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:18:39 -0000 From: Julio Niņo Subject: Eclipse Twist; Peter Udell & Gary Geld. Hola Everybody. I should be working ,but instead Iīm listening to Mina sing "Eclisse Twist" (Eclipse Twist) while I watch the golden light of this sunny morning in Madrid slowly turning gray and solving into darkness. Itīs so beautiful that it hurts. And talking about beauty. Yesterday I listened to a song by Gene Pitney that caught my attention, always avid of teen drama. Itīs titled "I Canīt Run Away". It was included in his LP "Blue Gene" and it was composed by Gary Geld and Peter Udell. I like very much the sixties compositions of this duo for Brian Hyland or Ruby and the Romantics' "Hurting Each Other". Maybe someone could tell us something about Gary and Peter, a picture of them will also be great. Thanks. Now Iīm going to dance The Eclipse Twist with kike (my cat). Chao. Julio Niņo. Note: this morning we had a very spectacular solar eclipse here in Madrid. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:27:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Irving Snodgrass Subject: Re: Cruisin' series I have the entitre Cruisin series of recreated old radio. It was given to mre by legendary Detroit DJ Robin DSeymour (WKMH/WKNR). I was a PR man for the Elmwood Casino nightclub in Windsor, Ont in 1969-70 and placed many visiting artists on Robin's Sat morn tv show on CKLW channel 9. I handled press relations and set up promotional appearances of the visiting artists at Detroit tv and radio stations. A highlight was the time I picked up Duane Eddy one Sat morning. and had breakfast with him, Al Martino and Mrs. Siegel the wife of Elmwood owner Al Siegel. Duane was Martino's guitarist during that gig. I then drove Duane to CKLW TV's riverfront studio. I told Duane I wanted to csarry his guitar in for him as I'd remember it for my entire life. He smiled and said, "Sure. In fact this guitar is the one I used when making most of my hits. I had been using another one, but recently went back to the original." Ken Haller Walled Lake, MI 48390 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:14:57 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: The Dixie Cups stranded in Tampa after Katrina Hi all, Here's a writeup from Tampa Bay Online about the original Dixie chicks, who are currently residing in a Tampa hotel: http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB5RU37CEE.html I'm hopeful that my local radio station will organize an event to help these gals out. Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:33:38 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: DC5 HOF? Shawn Nagy wrote: > My intial thought of the Rock & Roll Hall Of Shame was to honor > those who made a major CONTRIBUTION to R&R. Since there obviously > already inductees who haven't done that, and are non-rockers, I > guess anything goes. Sure DC5 had hits, but how did they influence > other musicians? Fashion, hairstyles, sound? Remember, The Ventures > are not in the Hall yet, and I think every musician that visits > this board has learned their chops playing a Ventures song at one > time or another. There are a few that NEED to be inducted & have > been gravely overlooked. While there are certainly a few acts who still need to be inducted, I hadn't thought to put the Dave Clark Five on my personal list until now. While the Ventures and a certain person who was the DC5's opening act in at least two concerts in the summer of 1967 are the top two on my list, I think the Dave Clark Five are a worthy act to consider for induction for the following reason - They were the SECOND British Invasion group to come over, and I feel that their impact showed that the Beatles were not an isolated phenomenon. The Dave Clark Five proved that other British acts could make it in America and the rest of the world. No, the Rolling Stones were not the second British Invasion group to cross the Atlantic. It only seems that way. July 8, 1967, Constitution Hall, Washington, DC - 2 shows, afternoon and evening. Headliners - the Dave Clark Five. Opening acts - the Blades of Grass (who had a song out called "Happy" that was also done by the Sunshine Company) and Neil Diamond. (No, it's not the Blades of Grass that I'm advocating for the Hall of Fame. I much prefer the Sunshine Company's version of "Happy".) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:46:50 -0000 From: Hugo M Subject: Need help ID.ing songs / band / record Howdy, all -- I'm still puzzling over tht pair of tunes I asked about earlier; in fact, the mystery has deepened. Now I'm not even sure that I can identify the band, it turns out that I don't have any reason to think it's the Harbingers at all. I am hoping and hoping that someone here can plug into their memory banks and dredge up a band name & song titles for me. What we've got here is a letter-perfect Byrds imitation. Wonderful, jangling folk-rock, SoCal-style down to the Columbia label house sound. Easy to imagine it could be a Terry Melcher production, or one of his buddies. B-side is heavily easterned-up, drone-y folk- rock/raga sound. Matrix numbers are DD-HA-1/DD-TB-1. Here are the lyrics, first verse of each side: "All you pacifistic, anarchistic harbingers of fear Please tell me just what kind of world you save. I hate war the same as you, but we differ, then, we two; I can't sit and preach and watch the world enslaved." b/w "Don't give your heart to Susan, Don't let her know you care. Cuz if you give your heart to her, Susan's heart won't be there." Does anybody recognize this? Oh please, oh please oh please, oh please... Cheers -- Hugo M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:03:04 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: Miller & Porter For Brent: The Miller/Porter team was Ron Miller (not Helen) and Lee Porter. They wrote the Shirelles B-side "Not For All the Money In the World" and the Nat King Cole B-side "The Good Times"; Ron Miller later co-wrote many of Motown's '70s hits. ACJ "Optimism works. It is more useful than pessimism." - E.Y. Harburg U.P. GROOVES!: http://community.webtv.net/andrucharlz/UPGROOVESTheUpper OR http://makeashorterlink.com/?P3D352CBB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Brooks Arthur Mick...How ya'doin'? I'm glad Spectropop is taking a look at Brooks Arthur's career. I've been friendly with him since 1961, when we both were signed as writers to to Aldon music. He was always a positive influence around the office, lending an ear or a line whenever it was needed. The first time we worked together, however, was when he was the "hot" engineer at Associated Recording Studios, where Ben Raleigh and I would do most of our demos. Since Brooks was a songwriter and aspiring producer, he had a lot to contribute to the recording process. There were times when I was at a loss to make a demo come together and he always would come up with a solution. I was always impressed with the ease he was able to work with difficult artists and musicians, who usually wound up being inspired by him. When Ron Haffkine and I did my first album "Shadow Mann" for Morris Levy, I couldn't think of working with anyone else. As he moved up in the buisness, from songwriter ["Cloudy with Occasional Tears" [King/Arthur] and engineer [Phil Spector, Jeff Barry,] he finally was able to use all of his talents, as a producer. One of the happiest moments, in my career, was when, as the vice- president of NARAS, I presented Brooks and Janis Ian, each a Grammy at a pre-award ceremony, for the brilliant album, "At Seventeen". He later was the musical consultant for the 3 "Karate Kid" movies, "Stand and Deliver" [which yeielded several number one records], and most of the Adam Sandler movies. In 2004 he was nominated for a Grammy for one of my favorite CDs "I Keed, I Keed!" by Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. The last time I saw him was at a Tony Orlando show [featuring Toni Wine] last year. That reminds me I've gotta' invite Brooks to drop by my website and sign the new guestbook. regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:04:04 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Helen Miller - chronology / Teddy Vann Here's a chronological sketch of artists for whom Helen Miller wrote - I've hit a dead end after the mid seventies but that's probably because my files tend to concentrate on the sixties. I'll do a bit more work on Helen's listing and hopefully can post a checklist of her work in a week or so. Thanks to everybody, Hans in particular, for the feedback on Teddy Vann. I've uncovered some more records he worked on and, again, will post details shortly. I'd agree with Hans that the Zizz label seems to have been a one-shot as I've yet to come across anything else on the label. Incidentally does the Freddie Willaims single have a number? Any chance of posting the Teddy Vann pic to the photo section - I'd love to see it. I came across an interview with Johnny Thunder in which he described Teddy as "a Marlon Brando type character" - I've no idea what exactly he meant but I'm intrigued. My apologies for taking so long to respond - my main computer's hard drive on which I stored all my discographical info. died a couple of weeks ago. Fortunately I managed to copy the files to CD before it gave up the ghost but it's taking a lot longer to locate info. - with a bit of luck I'll be able transfer all the data to my standby computer and be back to nearly normal. I see the team of Gary Geld and Peter Udell have been getting mentions - I've an almost complete checklist of their work which I can post if anyone's interested. Davie Gordon -------------------------------------------------- HELEN MILLER chronology 1960 LITTLE ANTHONY and THE IMPERIALS (End) 1961 TOMMY HUNT (Scepter) THE QUOTATIONS (Verve) 1962 THE QUOTATIONS (Verve) TONY ORLANDO (Epic) TIMI YURO (Liberty) THE SEQUINS (UA) JOHNNY CRAWFORD (DelFi) 1963 THE PUSSYCATS (Keyman) GENE CHANDLER (Constellation) DODIE STEVENS (Dolton) ROBERTA LEAN (20th Fox) THE SHIRELLES (Scepter) 1964 ANDREA CARROLL (Big Top) FRANKIE AVALON (UA) THE ROCKY FELLERS (WB) TONI WINE (Colpix) THE LETTERMEN (Capitol) STEVE LAWRENCE (Columbia) BERNADETTE CASTRO (Colpix) THE QUOTATIONS (Admiral) NEIL SEDAKA (RCA) THE FENWAYS (Imperial) GENE PITNEY (Musicor) 1965 FRANKIE AVALON (UA) BARBARA LEWIS (Atlantic) PATTY MICHAELS (Columbia) THE VACELS (Kama Sutra) THE REFLECTIONS (Golden World) MARGARET MANDOLPH (Planetary) GEORGE McCANNON (Phi-Dan) VERN McENTIRE (Liberty) NEIL SEDAKA (RCA) DANNY WILLIAMS (UA) THE RONETTES (Dimension) PICCOLA PUPA (WB) GENE PITNEY (Musicor) CHUCK JACKSON and MAXINE BROWN (Wand) 1966 VICTOR KNIGHT (Ron Cris) THE MARVELOWS (ABC) DEON JACKSON (Carla) JERRI MICHAELS (Cameo) 1968 THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH (Colgems) PAULA WAYNE (Colgems) THE TOYS (Musicor) 1969 MAXINE BROWN (Commonwealth United) V.V. and THE SUPERBS (Blue Rock) 1970 THE NEW DIRECTION (Neptune) BOBBY SHERMAN (Metromedia) JERRY BUTLER (Mercury) 1971 BOBBY SHERMAN (Metromedia) BEVERLY BREMERS (Scepter) 1972 FREDDIE SCOTT (PIP) 1973 SARAH VAUGHAN (Mainstream) ELLERINE HARDING (Mainstream) DORIS DUKE (Mainstream) SARIANNA FEATHERSTONE (Mainstream) LENNY WELCH (Mainstream) LARRY RICE (IX Chains) SPRING (IX Chains) PRIDE, PASSION and PAIN (IX Chains) 1974 SPRING (IX Chains) LINDA PERRY (Mainstream) FRANKIE FLOYD (IX Chains) FREDDIE SCOTT (Mainstream) THE ELECTRIC LADIES (Mainstream) There are a few possibles that need to be verified including the Orchids on Roulette and JaNeen Henry on Blue Rock - anybody got those? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:02:16 +0100 From: FrankM Subject: Pookie Snackenberg Someone asked about Pookie Snackenberg. There's not much of an explanation here: http://leemichaelwithers.tripod.com/cruisin58.htm FrankM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: http://www.spectropop.com End