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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"
From: Steve Harvey
2. Re: Candy & the Kisses, "The 81" and Reparata's apostrophe
From: Mick Patrick
3. Re: "Don't Worry Baby" (is there a finer song?)
From: James Botticelli
4. New issue of "Jackie"
From: Bill George
5. Re: "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"
From: Andrew Hickey
6. Under discussion recently and currently playing at musica
From: S'pop Projects
7. Song Credit Needed: "Our Love Will Go On and On"
From: Stefano
8. Re: an early Christmas / Tony Orlando
From: Mark W Petty
9. Re: "Don't Worry Baby"
From: Regina Litman
10. Re: "Little Christmas Tree"
From: Matt
11. Re: speakin' span
From: Javed Jafri
12. Re: speakin' span
From: S J Dibai
13. Re: The Fourmost Authority
From: Javed Jafri
14. Re: The 81
From: John Fox
15. news of Bobby Charles whereabouts?
From: Norm D
16. Re: Beach Boys clarification
From: Steve Harvey
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:25:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"
Regina Litman wrote:
> The title "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" sounds
> a bit familiar. If it's on the big box set that came out in
> the early or middle 1990s, I've heard it, but I can't recall
> it right now.
On the count of three . . . . it's on PET SOUNDS! There's a
whole lot of surprises you're in for once when you start wading
through the B-sides and odd singles/album cuts. Just wait till
you get to "Let Him Run Wild", "Baby, Baby" or Substitute Beach
Boy Glen Campbell's "Guess I'm Dumb".
Steve Harvey
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:46:59 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Candy & the Kisses, "The 81" and Reparata's apostrophe
Julio Niño:
> I would love to listen to Allen Cromer´s "The 81".
'Tis playing now at musica as I type, but please do be
careful not to frighten the cat while rolling up the carpet:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Details are: Allen Cromer "(The) Eighty-One" (Edge 504, 1963);
written by McGhee and Caldwell; arranged and conducted by
Teacho Wiltshire; produced by Bob McGhee.
Hasse Huss:
> By curious coincidence, I recently picked up a nice piece of
> memorabilia, a copy of the original sheet music for "The 81"
> with the title given as "the Eighty-One". (I'd like to think
> that it's Kenny Gamble's own longhand.) Will try to post a
> scan to the site this weekend.
I'm sure we'd all love to see that artefact, so yes please.
Excellent group, Candy & the Kisses. You converts have their
CD, yes? If not, find out more, and hear sound bites, here
http://tinyurl.com/7euyh and here http://tinyurl.com/cenqq
Previously:
> Our recent pictorial spread devoted to Honey Ltd proved
> so popular with readers that we decided to apply the same
> formula to another of S'pop's favoured acts - Reparata &
> the Delrons. Check it out, do. Don't forget to click on
> each image for a larger version with caption.
> http://www.spectropop.com/Reparata/index.htm
Phil M:
> Terrific fun, of a most photogenic trio. I have a few
> questions, though, about the 45 on the D'art label ... I
> have a copy of the same record, but mine ... is only on
> the Dart label ... What happened to my apostrophe?!
In search of a less regimented existence, it ran off to
live with Martin. Last I heard, it was living as an umlaut
with another apostrophe.
Right, now who knows how to do the Jelly Belly? Tony?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:36:15 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: "Don't Worry Baby" (is there a finer song?)
Regina Litman wrote:
> I don't think I've ever heard "Summer Means New Love".
It's an instrumental that my daughter's piano teacher transcribed
by ear for me with seriously creative chord changes and melodic
intricacies. But don't let that scare you. It translates into a
pretty pop song. I happen to have the 45 and it is credited to
Brian Wilson as opposed to the Beach Boys. It is from 1965 and I
know it is included on the double CD reissue that includes the
"Today" album and I forget the other one. Maybe All Summer Long.
It is track 22. Once you hear it you'll have a renewed Brian
Wilson Epiphany.
> The title "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" sounds a
> bit familiar.
That one is on Pet Sounds, which Paul McCartney has said served
as the blueprint for Sgt. Pepper's. Pet Sounds is required
listening. To not have listened to it is to be partially derelict
in Beach Boy Diligence. IMHO. Pet Sounds will be your Second
Epiphany.
JB
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:50:42 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: New issue of "Jackie"
Hi all,
Just wanted to let you all know that a new issue of "Jackie",
the newsletter of the Jackie DeShannon Appreciation Society,
has been posted on the website. You can read it at
http://jackiedeshannon.tripod.com. Enjoy!
Bill
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:39:53 +0000
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"
Steve Harvey:
> On the count of three . . . . it's on PET SOUNDS! There's a
> whole lot of surprises you're in for once when you start wading
> through the B-sides and odd singles/album cuts. Just wait till
> you get to "Let Him Run Wild", "Baby, Baby" or Substitute Beach
> Boy Glen Campbell's "Guess I'm Dumb".
Baby, Baby? I've never even *heard* of this, and I've been a BBs
obsessive for ten years... is this some ultra-obscurity, or a typo?
--
DUMB ANGEL HAS UPDATED 7/11/05! - Little Brian In Smileland
http://dumbangel.keenspace.com
A webcomic about Smile
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:41:11 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Under discussion recently and currently playing at musica
Under discussion recently and currently playing at musica:
Allen Cromer "(The) Eighty-One"
The Brooks Arthur Ensemble "Sunrise Highway"
Bucky Wilkin "Delta Day (No Time To Cry)"
Hash Brown & the Cupcakes "I Got My Job In The New York Times"
Hash Brown & the Cupcakes "The Nearness Of You"
Johnny Nash "I'm Counting On You"
Marta Baizán "Sé De Un Lugar"
Reparata & the Delrons "Summer Laughter"
Sue Lynne "You"
Listen to 'em while you still have the chance:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Enjoy,
The S'pop Team
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:44:47 -0800
From: Stefano
Subject: Song Credit Needed: "Our Love Will Go On and On"
Can anyone help me identify a song, that has been on my mind for
several months? It's a late 50s-early 60s track, sung by a female
lead, with male backing group. It goes, "Our love will never die/
As long as there is you and I...Our love will live on and on,
through gladness and through sadness". I have been trying to ID
this track, but have not found anything online.
I see there is a track on RCA by a group named the McCoys, called
"Our Love Goes On and On", but I have a feeling that isn't it.
This track sounds like The Essex, but I see no listing for them
with this title. Any ideas?
Thanks-
Stefano
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:33:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark W Petty
Subject: Re: an early Christmas / Tony Orlando
The Tony Orlando & Dawn recording of "I Lose It When I Hear 'White
Christmas'" is at this link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000ANVP7Y/wideanglereco-20
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:03:55 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: "Don't Worry Baby"
Jimmy Botticelli wrote:
> That one is on Pet Sounds, which Paul McCartney has said served
> as the blueprint for Sgt. Pepper's. Pet Sounds is required
> listening. To not have listened to it is to be partially derelict
> in Beach Boy Diligence. IMHO. Pet Sounds will be your Second
> Epiphany.
Thanks for this information. I have seen the "Pet Sounds" CD in my
local public library, and next time I see it, I will check it out.
In my previous message, I referred to "God Only Knows" as a ballad.
I have since remembered that the Beach Boys' version has somewhat of
a beat to it. It's the Neil Diamond version that has such an absence
of a beat that when I first heard it, I didn't even realize it was the
same song! Then again, "Don't Worry Baby" as done by the Beach Boys
has a beat to it, too, so maybe you'd consider their version of "God
Only Knows" to qualify as a ballad, too.
A slow Beach Boys song that I like sometimes, depending on my mood,
is "The Warmth of the Sun".
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:28:53 -0000
From: Matt
Subject: Re: "Little Christmas Tree"
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I'm proud to announce that "Little Christmas Tree" by Michael
> Jackson, which I co-wrote 30 years ago with George Clinton
> on the legendary "Motown Christmas album, is now available
> in several different compilations.
Artie -
I love that song! Thanks for co-writing such a treasure.
Would anyone confirm if that is The Love Generation singing backup
for Michael there? I always though this song sounded like a Partridge
Family tune with Michael Jackson instead of David Cassidy.
- Matt
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:33:47 -0800
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: speakin' span
Phil X. Milstein asked:
> Is the Clique that covered "Splash I" for Scepter in 1967 the same
> Clique that covered "Sugar On Sunday" for White Whale a couple
> of years later? If so, were they the only group to cover a span
> as wide as that between Tommy James & The Shondells and 13th Floor
> Elevators?
My guess would be yes, since both the Elevators and The Clique were from
Texas. I'm familiar only with the White Whale 45 by the Clique, but I do
believe that they traversed some psyche territory on their album(s). I
remember reading how REM discovered the flip of "Sugar On Sunday" when
working at a record store and playing a whole bunch of 45s. That song was
the Gary Zekeley penned and produced "Superman," and of course REM did
a nice, and quite faithful to the original, remake of the song.
Javed
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:11:02 -0000
From: S J Dibai
Subject: Re: speakin' span
Phil X Milstein asked:
> If so, were [The Clique] the only group to cover a span as
> wide as that between Tommy James & The Shondells and
> 13th Floor Elevators?
Look at The Kit Kats' output and you'll see that the answer is a resounding
"No." On their "It's Just A Matter of Time" LP alone, they cover "The Nut
Rocker," "Cotton Fields," "Sea Of Love," "Funny How Love Can Be," "Liza-Jane,"
and "These Are A Few of My Favorite Things"! And this from a band that had
been playing Hank Ballard and Little Richard and would eventually add
"Sabre Dance," "Those Were The Days," and the entire "Tommy" album to
their live set!
S.J. Dibai
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitkats_newhope
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:12:17 -0800
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: The Fourmost Authority
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> I think anyone would be hard-pressed to nominate a cooler record
> than "Dance, Dance," by the Fourmost Authority.
I have to wholeheartedly second Phil's sentiment about "Dance, Dance" and
have felt that way ever since I first heard the song. My first exposure to
the song was when it was posted to musica a few years ago by Jeffrey Glenn.
I do believe the song was a hit was in Pittsburgh and I'm sorry that it did
not take off nationally. I'm also sorry and surprised that it did not make
the track list for the Nuggets box set. It deserved to be there.
Javed
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:08:46 EST
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: The 81
Tony Leong wrote:
> Someone recently showed me how the 81 was done!
I've done the 81. It was basically -- at least where I did it -- an
exaggerated walk
Yes, but does anyone out there know where/how "The 81" got its name?
(No a quiz -- I don't know!).
John Fox
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:47:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Norm D
Subject: news of Bobby Charles whereabouts?
Does any S'popper have any news of the health and whereabouts
of the great New Orleans singer/songwriter Bobby Charles? I'm
following up a query posted on another music site by Arthur
Baysting, Project Director, NZ Music Industry Commission, who
writes:
"I'm a bit concerned as I haven't been able to find any details
about him on the net since hurricanes Katrina and Rita. He was
living squarely in the path of the second one. I wonder if you
have any news of him?"
After Katrina, Dr John talked about him and his songs but I can't
get anything definite; I know he's not as mobile as he used to be."
I know that the new Dr. John Katrina fund raising CD features a
version of Bobby Charles' later song "Clean Water", and has been
well reviewed.
Any info please?
Regards
Norm D.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:34:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Beach Boys clarification
Andrew Hickey asked:
> "Baby, Baby"? I've never even *heard* of this, and I've been a BBs
> obsessive for ten years. Is this some ultra-obscurity, or a typo?
I was referring to the bonus CD alt. take of "Let Him Run Wild" where the
background chorus is singing "baby, baby".
Steve Harvey
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