________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 23 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Dee Dee Sharp From: Mick Patrick 2. Some intereting 78s From: Marc Miller 3. Re: LPs, CDs, MP3s ... From: Clark Besch 4. Re: "Little Christmas Tree" From: Ayrton Mugnaini 5. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority From: Clark Besch 6. Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions From: Steve D 7. Link Wray From: S'pop Projects 8. Re: "Little Christmas Tree" From: Frank Jastfelder 9. Re: "Little Christmas Tree" From: Ayrton Mugnaini 10. Re: early April From: Phil X Milstein 11. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority From: Mike 12. Re: Christmas Darlene Love Please Come Home From: Felonious 13. Re: "The 81" From: Hasse Huss 14. Terry Reid does 'Baby It's You' From: Hasse Huss 15. Re: "Baby I Love You" alternates From: Regina Litman 16. Re: Link Wray From: Strandwolf 17. Re: steppin' out strategy From: Regina Litman 18. Re: Ron Marshall From: Mark Marshall 19. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority From: James Botticelli 20. Mod versus Motown From: Hasse Huss 21. Nashville Radio From: Nick Archer 22. Interview with a former Hardy Boy (the band, not the books) From: Sam 23. Mousie & the Traps From: Mick Patrick ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:10:42 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Dee Dee Sharp Frank Young wrote: > ... Cameo-Parkway ... had some first-rate songwriters. Take > the team of Jackson and Wisner, who contributed some melodic > and inventive material. Two prime examples are "Don't Throw > Your Love Away" by the Orlons and "Willyam, Willyam" by Dee > Dee Sharp. I love the use of the seldom-heard word "tarry" > in the latter. Yeah, there are some great couplets in "Willyam, Willyam": "Are you just a turkey in the straw, boy? Don't you want to have a mother-in-law?" I'm just getting stuck into ABKCO's new Cameo-Parkway CDs. So far the Dee Dee Sharp set is my favourite. Dee Dee had one of the strongest voices of the girl group era - right up there with Darlene Love, Margaret Ross, La La Brooks and Brenda Reid in my eyes. Considering the friendly price of these discs, I find the whole series hard to fault. More pictures in the booklets would have been nice, but what is included is good. Each CD contains a 12 page booklet featuring a decent biographical essay by Jeff Tamarkin plus quite detailed track annotation. All songwriters, arrangers and producers are properly credited. Recording dates and locations for each track are also listed, which is valuable information. For example, previously, I'd assumed that Dee Dee's Cameo tracks were all cut in Philly. I know now that that was not the case. Three of the best tracks on the CD were recorded in Chicago, while the Bob Crewe- produced "Deep Dark Secret" was cut at Olmstead Sound Studios in NYC. (In recent times this track has "gone northern". What was once an easy to find 45 is now changing hands for three figures, I understand. I'm sitting on my copies - hah!) Of course, all of Dee Dee's big hits are included (you all know what they are) but it's good to get a selection of LP tracks too. "You Ain't Nothin' But A Nothin'" and "Just To Hold My Hand" - both from her "Do The Bird" album - are great, as is "You Are My Sunshine" from the "All The Hits, Vol 2" LP. Dee Dee's version is patterned after that of Ray Charles, with strong back-ups by that excellent group, the Dreamlovers, who support her on other tracks too. Dee Dee Sharp's other backing vocalists at Cameo included the Artistics, the Orlons, Persianettes and the Sherrys, not forgetting Willa Ward and several other moonlighting ladies from Philadelphia's gospel fraternity. How do I know all this? I read it in the booklet. The sound quality is great . . . and all mono, thank goodness. There, I said something nice about ABKCO. "You'd better run, boy, you'd better run, Because her pa, boy, has got a gun!" So, she was knocked-up, then?! Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:06:32 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Miller Subject: Some intereting 78s Got my 78s outta storage after a few years and came across some things that might be of interest: April Stevens - Don't Do It (Stevens, Tempo, Pianodosi /The Sweetest Day (Wolfe, Gilbert, Geoge). The label is Society Recordings out of Encino. Both are pretty standard ballad fare, but April is in fine voice! I can't date this one. And who the hell is Pianodosi? Little Esther - Saturday Night Daddy (w/ Bobby Nunn of The Robins)/ Mainliner - both are credited to "Stroller (sic) - Leiber" - were they ever credited like this again? Also, I found Gee Records #1 (Lorraine Ellis - Perfidia/Piano- Player-Play-a-Tune (Ross-Dixon-Goldner)) and Move Over/2:20 AM by the GREAT Jimmy Wright. Anyone know any of this stuff?? Marc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:09:01 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: LPs, CDs, MP3s ... Kurt Benbenek wrote: > I just got the new Sundazed music catalogue in the mail and it > contains page after page of tempting vinyl reissues. Vinyl > seems very far from being dead. Audio quality has never been a > huge issue with me. Again, every format has it's own advantages. > The important thing is the quality of the songwriting, > production values and overall emotion of a song or album. A > good song is still a good song, whether on cassette, CD or mp3 > ...or on an Edison cylinder. Kurt, isn't that new Sundazed catalog something to behold? It's amazing they have put out so much stuff, and much previously unreleased. I wish they'd publish a discography showing when these Cds, 45s and Lps came into our hands. I wish they'd do more never before in stereo tracks, but they seem to be leaning towards original mono mixes for Lps lately, which in many cases do sound different from the normally aired stereo versions which were often not the hit mixes. Not only that, but their vinyl is SO good that clips and pops are usually only heard if you left the Lp on the turntable for a week. (Hey, I think I've done that!). They have a new Byrds 45s set I gotta get. I love 45s. AND one of their new releases has a Spectropop vet on it! Our own James Holvay appears on the new various hits comp, "Dancehall Stringbusters 2"! Before he was a "Mob-ster", he was lead guitarist for the Maybees. There are 2 tracks on the Cd featuring James' lead guitar work on Maybees instrumentals. Find it here: http://www.sundazed.com/store/index.html That said, I also feel audio quality is not always an issue with me. Memories are! I listen to old AM radio tapes in my car constantly from the 60's. I love it! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:41:35 -0300 (ART) From: Ayrton Mugnaini Subject: Re: "Little Christmas Tree" Artie Wayne wrote: > I'm proud to announce that "Little Christmas Tree" by Michael > Jackson, which I co-wrote 30 years ago with George Clinton > on the legendary "Motown Christmas album, is now available > in several different compilations. Great! And I don't remember offhand, but is it the same "Our Little Christmas Tree" recorded by Stevie Wonder? Cheerio, Ayrton -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:31:35 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Phil X Milstein wrote: > I think anyone would be hard-pressed to nominate a cooler record > than "Dance, Dance," by the Fourmost Authority. Where I could > once simply accept this record on face value, however, more and > more I find myself needing to know something about it, and about > the cats behind it. Does anyone know anything about the Fourmost > Authority? Phil, I am guessing only that they were California band. I have chart action on them of: "Childhood friends" KACY (Port Hueneme, Ca.) 3/22/68 extra "Dance Dance" KBLI (Blackfoot, Id.) 7/2/67 #39, 7/24/67 #37 Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:29:08 -0000 From: Steve D Subject: Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions JJ wrote: > I have a US Philles (PHLP 4005), mono, yellow/red label copy > of the "A Christmas Gift" LP. I've never seen a copy of the > original, light blue label w/black printing, and I wonder how > many copies were pressed of that version? Are the blue/black > pressings very rare? The yellow/red label LP is listed as a > "reissue" on the 'net, though I assume these were early > pressings. Does anyone know what year the earliest yellow/red > copies came out? '63? '64? My copy is pressed on thick vinyl > + ditto cover. Looking forward to have the ? stretched out to ! I bought the original album when it was first released in 1963 & it came with the yellow & red label. I don't know if it was ever released with the blue & black label. I remember "Be My Baby" by The Ronettes as being the first time I saw the yellow & red label, and that was late summer '63, a few months before the Christmas album was released. -Steve D -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:04:40 -0000 From: S'pop Projects Subject: Link Wray As reported previously, legendary guitarist Frederick Lincoln (Link) Wray passed away on November 5th. He was 76. A rather fine obituary by Spencer Leigh is available at the S'pop Remembers section: http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/LWobit.htm R.I.P. The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:01:31 +0100 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Re: "Little Christmas Tree" Artie Wayne wrote: > I'm proud to announce that "Little Christmas Tree" by Michael > Jackson, which I co-wrote 30 years ago with George Clinton > on the legendary "Motown Christmas album, is now available > in several different compilations. Ayrton Mugnaini: > Great! And I don't remember offhand, but is it the same "Our > Little Christmas Tree" recorded by Stevie Wonder? Wasn't that "One Little Christmas Tree"? Frank Jastfelder -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:12:46 -0300 (ART) From: Ayrton Mugnaini Subject: Re: "Little Christmas Tree" Artie Wayne wrote: > I'm proud to announce that "Little Christmas Tree" by Michael > Jackson, which I co-wrote 30 years ago with George Clinton > on the legendary "Motown Christmas album, is now available > in several different compilations. I wrote: > Great! And I don't remember offhand, but is it the same "Our > Little Christmas Tree" recorded by Stevie Wonder? Frank Jastfelder wrote: > Wasn't that "One Little Christmas Tree"? You're right, Frank. I have the single (a 1980s Yuletide reissue, b/w Ave Maria) by Stevie, but not at hand right now. Cheerio, Ayrton -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:11:04 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: early April Marc Miller wrote: > April Stevens - Don't Do It (Stevens, Tempo, Pianodosi /The > Sweetest Day (Wolfe, Gilbert, Geoge). The label is Society > Recordings out of Encino. Both are pretty standard ballad fare, > but April is in fine voice! I can't date this one. And who the > hell is Pianodosi? Dubs of both sides of this disc (along with a label pic) can be found at my Probe site, at session 22. Intro'd with a stalling-auto sound effect, the A-side can be seen as a sort-of precursor to "Teach Me Tiger," and the co-writing credit to Brother Nino indicates that is not a coincidence. The song's THEME, however, is virtually the opposite of "Tiger"'s, although both are about equally racy in their own way. My info dates that record to 1950, although don't hold me to that. I doubt April would. Dig, --Phil M. http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:56:22 -0000 From: Mike Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Phil X Milstein wrote: > ... Does anyone know anything about the Fourmost > Authority? I'm pretty sure they were a UK or European combo. "Dance, Dance" was also recorded by The Chartbusters, on the Bell label, released prior to the F.A's version. MopTopMike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:12:45 -0800 From: Felonious Subject: Re: Christmas Darlene Love Please Come Home Darlene will be filming her annual Letterman show appearance on December 19, for broadcast on Thursday, December 22. In the UK the Letterman show is on ITV 4 at 11:50 weekday nights, with the shows brodcast one day later than in the US. FrankM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 02:27:43 -0800 (PST) From: Hasse Huss Subject: Re: "The 81" I've scanned the sheet music to 'The Eighty-One' and posted it to the Photos section. It was a bit large, so it's in two parts. Hopefully there's a graphologist in our midst who can ascertain whether it's in Kenny Gamble’s own handwriting or not. Enjoy! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 02:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: Hasse Huss Subject: Terry Reid does 'Baby It's You' Speaking of soulful British vocalists ... A few days ago, the online edition of the Independent published a review of Terry Reid's recent shows in the UK. On the fringes of Spectropop territory perhaps; then again, I would have loved to hear his version of 'Baby It's You' ... http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article329913.ece Hasse Huss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:13:45 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: "Baby I Love You" alternates Pres wrote: > "Don't Worry Baby" is second only to "Baby I Love You" as my > favorite records of the sixties. As far as Beach Boys ballads, > I can't think of any better, in my opinion. But here are the > runner ups: One of my favorite pop music trivia categories is totally different songs with the same title. Forgetting for a moment the topic of this group, my first thought at seeing the title "Baby I Love You" was, "Is this the Aretha Franklin song or the Andy Kim song?" I realize now that if we're talking about RECORDS rather than SONGS, it's neither. Well, after remembering the topic of this group, I realize that it is the Andy Kim song, but shame on me for not thinking Ronettes right away. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:15:11 -0800 From: Strandwolf Subject: Re: Link Wray previously: > As reported previously, legendary guitarist Frederick Lincoln > (Link) Wray passed away on November 5th. He was 76. > A rather fine obituary by Spencer Leigh is available > at the S'pop Remembers section: > http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/LWobit.htm Also, check out http://www.dekedickerson.com for a poignant but lighthearted tribute by a torch bearer. Check out Deke's press section for some good articles, including a very informative rundown on Gene Vincent in the studio. Also on the site is a colorful memoir by Billy Miller. Good pics of Link, etc. Jim, aka Strandwolf -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:07:07 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: steppin' out strategy Steve D wrote: > I bought the original album when it was first released in 1963 & > it came with the yellow & red label. I don't know if it was ever > released with the blue & black label. I remember "Be My Baby" by > The Ronettes as being the first time I saw the yellow & red label, > and that was late summer '63, a few months before the Christmas > album was released. I bought it on vinyl around 1977-1978. The one I got was on the Apple label -- yes the Beatle's label. I think there was a release on Warner/ Reprise floating around back then, too. My CD version came as part of the "Back to Mono" box set. Normally, I never leave the house with just one CD of a multi-CD set -- I have a fear of losing one and then having an incomplete set. Better to lose the whole thing than just a piece of it. I also have not yet done what so many folks do -- copy their CDs and just take the copies out of their homes -- despite having so many out-of-print ones in my collection. Anyway, the only exception I make to the above is that I take "A Christmas Gift To You" with me whenever I want to hear it, without bothering to take the other three CDs from "Back to Mono". Maybe it's because this may have been considered to be a bonus, rather than part of the whole set. I certainly don't take with me disc 5 of Neil Diamond's "Stages" box set to get a holiday dose (but neither do I leave it behind when I take the whole set with me, fully intending to play only the four non-holiday CDs). When I have all of the CDs in a series that were sold separately, my policy wavers. Sometimes, particularly when there are five or fewer CDs in the series, I'll take them all because I find that I regret not having with me a song that I like that I know is part of the series. Other times, especially when there are a lot of CDs in the series, such as the 25 volumes in Rhino's 1970s "Have A Nice Day" series (the ones that came out very early in the 1990s, not the box set that came out later), I have to leave some behind out of necessity -- just too many to carry. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:06:47 -0000 From: Mark Marshall Subject: Re: Ron Marshall Clark Besch wrote: > Then, I spotted "What Can I Wish For You My Son" > by Ron Marshall on Intrepid (probably 1970). It was > produced by Art Wayne and arranged by Dean Christopher > and Art Wayne. Any comments on these, guys? I know this is an old thread, but I had to respond. Ron Marshall was my Dad. I'm the kid on the single! Dad had a long career as a VO guy, character voice actor, singer and whistler. Unfortunately, he got into a very personally destructive relationship, and took his own life five years ago. The record in question, if I'm not mistaken, was recorded at ODO, a studio on West 54th Street that Dad used to take me to when I was very young. Its highlights included a whole boatload of singles and commercial work, A Grand Funk Railroad album, the Kiss solo projects and "All By Myself" by Eric Carmen were all cut there. It's nice that someone found the record, and even nicer that someone remembered him. Thanks much! Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:22:54 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Phil X Milstein wrote: > ... Does anyone know anything about the Fourmost Authority? Mike: > I'm pretty sure they were a UK or European combo. "Dance, Dance" > was also recorded by The Chartbusters, on the Bell label, > released prior to the F.A's version. Something tells me that Mike is right. Weren't Ola and the Janglers also on GNP Crecendo and weren't they from Sweden? JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:53:26 -0500 From: Hasse Huss Subject: Mod versus Motown Dave Monroe wrote: > But hope you're familiar with The Action's cover of "In My > Lonely Room". They also recorded excellent covers of "I'll > Keep On Holding On" (The Marvelettes), "Since I Lost My Baby" > (The Temptations), "I Love You (Yeah!)" (The Impressions), > "Baby You've Got It" (Maurice and The Radiants), "Hey Sah-Lo- > Ney" (Mickey Lee Lane), "Land of 100 Dances" (Cannibal and > The Headhunters), "The Cissy" and "Harlem Shuffle" (Bob and > Earl), and that's just what was either officially released or > what comes to mind. MopTopMike wrote: > Gotta strongly disagree here, I think the Action are WAAAYYY > over-rated. They do limp covers of great soul songs [...] the > remake of "I'll Keep Holding On" is like fingernails scraping > a chalk blackboard! But there is an Action tune I really dig, > by far and above the best song they recorded: "Wasn't It You" > ...now that's soulful! I don't know about "waaayyy over-rated" 'Baby You've Got It' sounds fine, for instance but their version of 'In My Lonely Room' isn't entirely convincing. They sure had good taste though! Still, to these ears at least, The Action seem to lack the magic of, say, The Small Faces or The Who (or even the best tracks by The Creation or The Birds). But perhaps you had to have been there. I never heard The Action in their day, but was fortunate to see The Who live in Stockholm in October, 1966, a little over a month before the UK release of "A Quick One". They kicked off a very powerful set with back-to-back versions of '(Love Is Like A) Heat Wave' and 'Dancing In The Street'. Amazingly, that concert can be found on a bootleg, "Who Are The High Numbers?" Readily available, and with plenty of tracks of roughly the same vintage, is The Who's "The BBC Sessions", which includes their takes on 'Dancing In The Street' (from March, 1966), and Eddie Holland's 'Leaving Here' (May, 1965). I very briefly met Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey before a show in Stockholm in May, 1967; all I could think to ask them I still have the tape somewhere was: "Do you like the Hep Stars?" Oh well, with Benny Andersson's haunting keyboard figure from Abba's 'Gimme, Gimme, Gimme (A Man After Midnight)' all over the charts these days as sampled on Madonna's 'Hung Up' perhaps that wasn't such a stupid question after all. Covering Motown is not easy, and few have succeeded. In the mod years, arguably one of the most original (and successful, though not in commercial terms) attempts was by The Birds, who cut 'No Good Without You Baby' the Mickey Stevenson song that opens the second side of Marvin Gaye's 1965 album, "How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You" for their third Decca single. Mixing mod guitars with a touch of British R&B, it's a forgotten 60's classic and well worth seeking out. (I've always rated Bryan Ferry's version of 'Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever', but we're in a different era then, I suppose...) Most people who've tried to cover Martha & the Vandellas have made utter fools of themselves. The Who, to their credit, certainly kept at it. And they dug deep into the catalogue; the reissue of "My Generation" includes 'Motoring' - also by Mickey Stevenson, incidentally - the flip to 'Nowhere To Run' (and on Martha & The Vandellas' 1965 "Dance Party" album). Makes you wonder what they might have done with 'Quicksand'... Hasse Huss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:51:14 -0000 From: Nick Archer Subject: Nashville Radio We've just started a group for everyone who was involved in or a fan of Nashville radio, from WSM to the Top 40 WLAC-AM, KDA-AM, and WMAK. So far we've have a lot of members posting surveys, stickers, jingles, and photos from their collections. Check it out at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nash_radio/ Nick Archer Franklin, TN -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:16:27 -0000 From: Sam Subject: Interview with a former Hardy Boy (the band, not the books) I am a struggling writer who runs a blog called "Confessions of a Pop Culture Addict" and two weeks ago had the pleasure to interview a man named Norbert Soltysiak who was a member of the Hardy Boy's bubblegum pop band in the late 1960's/early 1970's for my site. It was an absolutely fascinating visit that not only gave more information on the band then has ever been relevealed anywhere before, but also the Chicago music scene in the 1960's as well as stories of touring in the US State Fair circuit. Performers he talked about in the interview included Sam the Sham and the Pharohs, Johnny Cash, The Buckinghams, the Daughters of Eve, the Delights, the Guess Who as well as non musicains as Richard Pryor, Ron Howard and Jonathin Frid. It's fascinating reading and I'd like to share it will all of you. The link to the interview is: http://www.livejournal.com/users/zatara2000/121947.html?mode==reply I have some other articles that may be of interest as well. Thanks... Sam -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:59:25 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Mousie & the Traps Here's a question - several, actually - for girl group experts, especially those with a special interest in all things Chicago- related. I've had a record on the brain all day - "It's All In The Way" by Mousie & the Traps. My copy is a recent(ish) UK reissue on the Joeboy label (with an unrelated b-side by Joseph Moore), but it was released originally on Toddlin' Town 8204. The song is credited to Holvay. Would that be S'popper James Holvay? Who produced the record? How's the original b-side, "How About You"? What year was the record released? Does anyone know anything about this group? I can't tell if they're black or white, not that that makes a difference. In fact, that pop/soul crossover sound appeals to me no end. Do photos of the group exist? Would I be right in assuming that they were a sister group of the all-male Mouse & the Traps? Thanks in advance for any info at all. Hey la, Mick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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