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There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Kim Fowley
From: Martin Roberts
2. Re: Hash Brown > the Cookies > Michael Brown > Reparata & the Delrons > World Artists
From: Mick Patrick
3. Re: Kim Fowley
From: Karl Ikola
4. Re: Hash Brown > Michael Brown > Reparata & the Delrons > World Artists
From: John Kennedy
5. Motown covers
From: Mike Edwards
6. Hidden Motown covers
From: Ayrton Mugnaini
7. Joe South and the Tams
From: Mike Edwards
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:43:40 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Kim Fowley
I wrote:
> Record collector, Benoit Conte compiled a discography of Kim
> Fowley's record releases and its positively Nitzschean in its
> breadth and diversity. Sadly it doesn't seem to have been
> published anywhere.
Eddy replied:
> So where can one view this then?
Well, one can't, it's not been published anywhere. My good pal
Kim Fowley :-} gave Benoit my email address when he was working
on the discography and before I could add I needed to see what
he had. He 'had' a lot! I guess if there was enough interest in
the discography, and Benoit was willing, S'pop might consider
putting it on line.
Stephen McParland's book, "CALIFORNIA CONFIDENTIAL! A SMALL
TASTE OF CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' AND CALIFORNIA SCHEMIN' IN
CONVERSATION WITH KIM FOWLEY" carries a Hollywood Argyles and
Murmaids discography and notes with some discographical info. I
don't own a copy, as much as I admire and have most of Stephen's
books the thought of a whole book on Kim's pronouncements on
life, the universe and everything (including rock'n'roll) has
rather put me off buying a copy.
Martin
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:52:42 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Hash Brown > the Cookies > Michael Brown > Reparata & the Delrons > World Artists
>From a Hash Brown Discography sent by John Kennedy:
> Hash Brown With The Milestone Singers
> Philips 40061 (ND)
> A. Dear Addy
> (Jerry Kennedy/M.Singleon)
> B. Stringy Mashed Potatoes
> (B.Justis/J.Kennedy/M.Singleton/R.Stevens)
Thanks for all the great info, John, and for the CDRs you
very kindly sent me in the mail.
I asked Margaret Ross of the Cookies (Cupcakes) about (the
previously discussed) "I Got My Job Through The New York
Times", but she didn't really remember the track. So I
played it to her over the phone and she immediately started
singing along! It all came back to her. She
asked me to send the track to her on a CDR, which I have
done, along with copies for Dorothy Jones and Earl-Jean. So
many thanks on behalf of all the Cookies and their fans.
I'm delighted to report that it is also very obviously the
same ladies singing on both sides of the 45 you mention
above. I've posted "Dear Addy" to musica for all to enjoy:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Would anyone like to hear the other side?
John:
> This is what Sherry Lookofsky (Michael Brown's step-mother)
> wrote in April 2000: "The sax solos on Reparata and the
> Delrons were played by Seldon Powell. Michael Brown did not
> play any keyboards on the record."
Which record, please?
> "Several keyboardists were used. Stan Free was one. Paul
> Griffin played on 'Whenever a Teenager Cries'."
I never said Michael played on that track. Their World Artists
LP, or much of it, was recorded at a later date than the
single.
> When I asked Michael (Brown) about it in January 2003 he
> couldn't remember anything about the song.
Did you ask him about the Delrons song he wrote, "Remember
When"? One would expect him to remember that.
> Given Harry's suspicious attributions of artists and writers
> on his World Artists label...
Suspicious attributions?!? Whatever, although World United was
Harry "Hash Brown" Lookofsky's studio, World Artists was not
his label. Lennie Martin and Lou Guarino were the owners.
Lennie Martin died on September 2 1963. Lou Guarino then ran
the company until its closure in October 1965. He then started
a new label, American Music Makers.
Find a World Artists discography here (near the bottom):
http://keepkey.yochanan.net/robbeerecord.htm
And see a World Artists website under construction here:
http://www.waerecords.com/
Thanks to Harry Young for much of this info.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:31:06 -0800
From: Karl Ikola
Subject: Re: Kim Fowley
Martin Roberts wrote:
> Well, one can't, it's not been published anywhere. My good pal
> Kim Fowley :-} gave Benoit my email address when he was working
> on the discography and before I could add I needed to see what
> he had. He 'had' a lot! I guess if there was enough interest in
> the discography, and Benoit was willing, S'pop might consider
> putting it on line.
Benoit has contributed his research to the long running Fowley
discography project I've worked on - first commissioned for
Fowley's once started but unfinished autobio on Feral House,
which is now off the table; the discog work is now relegated to
a "fan" pursuit which I don't have as much time for as I'd like.
That said, I don't think anyone putting the kind of work it takes
into one of these wants to hand it out as a party favor. Too much
$, labor, etc. involved. I was disappointed to hear that there
was an Impossible But True - Part Two CD slated for release on
Ace in the near future, only to be cancelled earlier this year.
While "word on the street" is that the label found Fowley too
difficult to work with, though one has to wonder how they
couldn't have known what they were in for after the first volume.
KI
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:31:49 -0500
From: John Kennedy
Subject: Re: Hash Brown > Michael Brown > Reparata & the Delrons > World Artists
Me:
> This is what Sherry Lookofsky (Michael Brown's step-mother)
> wrote in April 2000: "The sax solos on Reparata and the
> Delrons were played by Seldon Powell. Michael Brown did not
> play any keyboards on the record."
Mick Patrick:
> Which record, please?
This one only:
WAM-2006 - 1964 - Reparata And The Delrons - Whenever A
Teenager Cries
> Did you ask him about the Delrons song he wrote, "Remember
> When"? One would expect him to remember that.
Yes, in the WFMU studio, on January 18, 2003. See here:
http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/6334
> Find a World Artists discography here (near the bottom):
> http://keepkey.yochanan.net/robbeerecord.htm
Thanks for this. I've been working on a World Artists
discography for about eight years.
Regards.
John K
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:08:23 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Motown covers
Let me dip into the Supremes' songbook to identify a couple of
covers of Motown songs. "Come See About Me" charted at # 1 for
the Supremes in late `64. That same year, we had another
version form Nella Dodds on Wand, which also made the Hot 100.
Three years later the Motown subsidiary, Soul, put out a
version by Jr. Walker & The All Stars and the song went back
up to # 24.
In between, there was a killer version by Mitch Ryder & The
Detroit Wheels on their first LP, "Take A Ride". The song
seemed perfect for their stripped down interpretation. Moving
onto the 80s', I have another version by Shakin' Stevens (UK
Epic, 1987), which reached # 24 in the UK. I love Shaky's
version; it seems as if he's got an extra verse in there.
Nella Dodds followed up "Come See About Me" with "Finders
Keepers, Losers Weepers". Another top notch song from her but
not a Motown cover, as it was not the Marvelettes' song but
one from the pen of the great Kenny Gamble.
The other Supremes' title is "Everything Is Good About You".
I know this as the b-side to "My World Is Empty Without You"
but I think Motown recorded it with a number of their artists.
Outside of Motown, the Lettermen charted with a very credible
version in 1971.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:12:20 -0300 (ART)
From: Ayrton Mugnaini
Subject: Hidden Motown covers
Hello everybody!
By "hidden Motown covers" I mean songs more or less derivative
- e.g. compare the riff of the Rolling Stones' "Under My Thumb"
to "It's The Same Old Song".
Cheerio,
Ayrton
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:46:11 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Joe South and the Tams
When looking at Joe South's work as a songwriter, members
have identified "Untie Me" by The Tams (Arlen, 1962). What
a great recording that was – mellow soul/R7B at its finest.
Soulful Kinda Music says "it was produced by Ray Stevens who
also played piano on the recording."
Ray Whitely wrote the Tams' big hits but they also recorded
some other Joe South compositions while they were with ABC
Records:
"All My Hard Times" (produced by Joe South)
"The Greatest Love"
"That Same Old Song" (produced by Joe South)
"Carrying On"
"Concrete Jungle"
"Silly Little Girl" (my favorite of the Tams' ABC sides)
There may have been more and I note that Joe produced the
Tams on other writers' songs - "Be Young Be Foolish Be
Happy" being a wonderful example.
Back to their (pre-ABC) Arlen days, the Tams issued five 45s
on the label. I can find one other written by Joe and Tommy
South, "Deep Inside Me". Not as strong as "Untie Me" but
certainly no slouch either. He/they probably wrote a few
more of the Tams' Arlen output as well, in which case, the
recordings would be well worth searching out.
Finally, we need a decent CD from the Tams. The one on the
UK BGO label has only 14 tracks – miserly in this day and
age.
Mike Edwards
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