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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Jean DuShon > Originals > "For Once In My Life"
From: Mick Patrick
2. All Summer Long
From: Brian Chidester
3. Re: "Renato" and "For Once In My Life"
From: Julio Niño
4. Re: The Everly Brothers
From: Gary Myers
5. Re: Betty McQuade
From: Kees van der Hoeven
6. Re: "For Once In My Life"
From: Mick Patrick
7. Songs of the Holiday
From: Rich Grunke
8. Re: the Diane Ray mystery
From: Ronnie Allen
9. Re: "Renato"
From: James Botticelli
10. Re: The Everly Brothers / Jackie DeShannon / Joey Powers
From: Artie Wayne
11. Re: Jean DuShon
From: Ash
12. King Kong of a Kwestion
From: Artie Wayne
13. Diane Ray CD
From: Peter Andreasen
14. Boyce & Hart and Barry DeVorzon
From: Damian
15. Re: Deano Wilson / "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
From: John Frederick Brown
16. A little more Tams
From: Mike Edwards
17. "The Ballad Of Paul" by the Mystery Tour
From: Mick Patrick
18. Re: Deano Wilson / "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
From: Peter Lerner
19. Re: King Kong of a Kwestion
From: Charles Ulrich
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:19:57 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Jean DuShon > Originals > "For Once In My Life"
Phil M:
> Great news! Music journalist Dick Rosemont has finally carved
> out a Web presence for his longstanding -- and impeccably
> researched -- "Originals Project," in which he seeks to trace
> the very first versions of well-known songs. The site is
> terrific already and yet still growing, with record pictures,
> to accompany the respective listings, being added on a daily
> basis: http://www.originalsproject.com
Oliver Penn:
> New Yahoo Group started for soul, jazz and Broadway star,
> Jean DuShon. Miss DuShon is distinguished by being the first
> artist to record the legendary classic, "For Once In My
> Life." She was born and raised in Detroit and started
> appearing in nightclubs at the tender age of 16:
> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/jeandushon
According to Dick Rosemont's list, the original version of
"Just Once In My Life" was recorded on Motown by Barbara
McNair. Not correct. Barbara's version was released in 1968,
two years after the one by Jean DuShon, whose rendition is now
playing at musica. Enjoy:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: Jean DuShon "For Once In My Life" (Cadet 5545,
1966) Written by Orlando Murden; arranged by Bert Keyes;
produced by E. Edwards.
Hmmm, I always thought Ron Miller wrote the song. Maybe
Orlando Murden is his real name, or a pseudonym. Anybody know?
I've uploaded a scan of the label to the S'pop Photos section
too: http://tinyurl.com/8tzvn
There are precious few Jean DuShon recordings available on CD.
Shame.
Hey la,
Mick
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:19:05 -0500
From: Brian Chidester
Subject: All Summer Long
Domenic Priore discusses Dumb Angel 4: All Summer Long on radio
station WFMU (91.1) in New York City, on Gaylord Fields' show.
This can be heard outside of New York by going online at
http://www.wfmu.org and kicking on the live stream. 5:00-7:00
p.m., Sunday, December 18, 2005.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:35:55 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: "Renato" and "For Once In My Life"
Hola everybody,
Me previously:
>... I´ve been trying to collect songs about girls complaining
about their too shy and not enough affective beloved ones...
Roberto Lanterna:
> "Renato" by Mina (1962) has exactly that kind of lyrics...
Thank you Roberto (and also to Margaret for her suggestions).
Yes, you´re right, "Renato" is perfect. A ferocious twist
about sexual frustration. I love when Mina calls Renato
accusatorily "a monster of ingenuity", sounding like a panther
accusing her victim of provoking her for being so chubby and
succulent.
In Spain, apart from the version by Mina, the song was very
popular in the Spanish version by Gelu (La Voz de su Amo EP,
1963). Gelu was a proto- ye yé girl who was often accused of
emulating Mina. Her version is also very nice but it lacked
the ferocity and punch of Mina´s. By the way, the original
version of the song was recorded by his composer, the
Argentinean Alberto Cortez in 1961, as "Renata".
And changing the subject, many thanks also to Mick for posting
the tremendous version of "For Once In My Life" by Jean DuShon.
In respect to the Barbara McNair version, it was included in
the LP "Here I Am", released at the end of 1966, whose songs,
according always to the microscopic notes of the CD "Barbara
McNair, The Ultimate Collection", were recorded in October-
December 1965 and March- June 1966. The song was later included
as a B-side of "Where Would I be Without You", in 1968.
And continuing with Barbara McNair´s wonderful compilation, the
notes indicate that the tracks are taken from the master tapes
but in my copy, the marvelous "You´re Are Gonna Love My Baby"
(I love this song) and "The Touch of Time" sound pretty awful,
like if they were dubbed from a worn vinyl or a defective
master tape. Maybe it´s my copy. Does anyone who has the disc
noticed the same problem?
Chao.
Julio Niño
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:05:57 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Everly Brothers
Peter Lerner:
> The DeShannon song which the Everlys recorded was "Baby bye
> - oh", and on a bootlegged LP which came out sometime in
> the 80s, I have their attempt at the song, which broke up
> in fits of laughter. Does anyone know if the brothers
> recorded a "proper" version of the song ... <<
This may have been covered a year or so ago, but the song was
a single on WB by Bernie Schwartz, produced by Phil Everly,
who also sang the harmony on it. Bernie has an interesting
musical story, and some of it was discussed in here back then.
gem
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:07:15 -0000
From: Kees van der Hoeven
Subject: Re: Betty McQuade
Mark M wrote:
> Do you know what happened to the great Betty McQuade?
She still is very alive and rather well, being special
attraction on oldies shows over recent years.
Kees
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:02:30 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: "For Once In My Life"
Me:
> According to http://www.originalsproject.com the original
> version of "For Once In My Life" was recorded on Motown by
> Barbara McNair. Not correct. Barbara's version was released
> in 1968, two years after that of Jean DuShon, whose
> rendition is now playing at musica. Enjoy:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Julio Niño:
> ... the Barbara McNair version (of "For Once In My Life")
> was included in the LP "Here I Am", released at the end
> of 1966, whose songs, according always to the microscopic
> notes of the CD "Barbara McNair, The Ultimate Collection",
> were recorded in October-December 1965 and March-June 1966.
> The song was later included as a B-side of "Where Would I
> Be Without You", in 1968.
Good point. The Jean DuShon version of "For Once In My Life"
was recorded in July 1966, and released a couple of months
later. It looks like Barbara's McNair's was recorded first,
but released second.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:38:15 -0000
From: Rich Grunke
Subject: Songs of the Holiday
Several of the Yahoo groups have been posting Christmas and
holday songs. Many of them are standards you have grown up
listening to.
However I am presenting eight songs at Tweedlee Dum's Drive-In
( http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In )
ones you probably have not heard much before. Definitely not
"Santa" by Jimmy Osmond.
The posting includes songs by:
Bert Kaempfert
Chipmunks
Bobby the Poet
Judy Brown
Marcels
Millie Small
Granny
Boys Next Door
sixtiesoldiesguy
Rich
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:20:58 EST
From: Ronnie Allen
Subject: Re: the Diane Ray mystery
Lyn Nutall wrote in response to my query about Diane Ray:
> It might surprise you all to learn that some Australians have
> long believed Diane Ray to be an Aussie. Brent James, in his
> liner notes to the Australian surf collection "Surf's Up"
> (Columbia/Sony Australia, 1993), characterises her this way:
> "Diane Ray, who went overseas to record for Mercury Records,
> ended up becoming another one hit wonder with the bright and
> cheery bubblegummish 'Please Don't Talk To The Lifegauard'."
This is all very interesting and, if it turns out to be credible,
quite astounding!
You may remember that back in the 60s there was a group known as
The Strangeloves who, purportedly, were brothers from Australia!
They had American hits with "I Want Candy, " "Cara-Lin," and
"Night Time." (I'm not sure if they charted down under.)
They were actually New York City songwriter/producer/artists Bob
Feldman, Jerry Goldstein and Richard Gottehrer. Among their other
credits they wrote and produced the Angels' huge hit "My
Boyfriend's Back."
So what we could have here is a Strangeloves story in reverse!
If Brent James's claim is true, then this would be an Australian
artist who purported to be an American artist!
Oh, the intrigue!
I just posted a message on the http://www.oldiesmusic.com message
board and quoted Lyn's message (with ample attribution!).
Hopefully, between this group and that message board, we may
learn the REAL TRUTH!
Ronnie Allen
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:54:17 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: "Renato"
Julio Niño wrote:
> I love when Mina calls Renato accusatorily "a monster of
> ingenuity", sounding like a panther accusing her victim of
> provoking her for being so chubby and succulent.
Now THAT'S a wordpatch! Julio, you got the gift. Keep the prose
coming. I'm thoroughtly entertained in Boston.
JB
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:33:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: The Everly Brothers / Jackie DeShannon / Joey Powers
Peter...Gary...How ya' doin'? In winter of 1963, I recorded
Jackie De Shannon's "Baby-Bye O", with Joey Powers as a possible
follow up to "Midnight Mary', but it didn't turn out how I
wanted, so I canned it.
Her publisher at Metric Music in New York, Ed Silvers, knowing
how much I liked Jackie and her music, surprised me and had her
call me at home. Although we had never met, or spoken, she
introduced herself by saying, "Hi, this is Jackie", and as soon
as I heard that husky, soulful voice, I knew exactly who it was!
We have one chance to make a first impression. That night I had
to tell one of my favorite singer/songwriters of all-time, on
Christmas eve, that her song which I'd held onto exclusively for
months was being canned! We talked for about 20 minutes, and
just before I was about to break the bad news Jackie said, "By
the way, Ed told me you're not putting out "Baby- Bye-O". My
heart sank, until she added, "That's cool -- we'll connect on
something else"!
She was right, and when I met her for the first time, on tour
with the Beatles, I began an adventure of a lifetime!
Regards,
Artie Wayne
P.S. For more stories check out my website, while you're there
take a minute to sign my new guest book.
http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:31:32 +1100
From: Ash
Subject: Re: Jean DuShon
One of my favourite female records is by Jean DuShon, a real
double A-sider for sure:
"It Won't Stop Hurtin' Me" backed with "Look The Other Way,"
on the Lenox label from around 1963. Both are fantastic tunes
in the Northern/ Belgium Popcorn style. Another Bernstein/Wecht
effort. I'd like to know more of their work. I have at least 4 or
5 records written and/or produced by Berstein and Co, and I think
all are great! Does anyone know of more hidden gems by them? They
popped up on Lenox a lot, but I'm sure there are others floating
around.
>From all reports Jean was very attractive, but I have yet to see
a picture of her.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all fellow members/
family and friends of Spectropop and associates.
Kind regards,
Ash from Sydney, Australia
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:51:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: King Kong of a Kwestion
How ya' doin'? I've been a fan of great ape movies since my
aunt took me to see the original "King Kong", on it's rerelease
back in the '50s. Since then I've gone to every great ape movie
on its opening day, which includes the "King Kong" remake with
Jessica Lange in 1976, the remake of "Mighty Joe Young" five
years ago with Charlize Theron, and the remake of "Planet of the
Apes" three years ago with Mark Wahlberg.
This afternoon, on opening day, I saw the greatest ape movie of
them all, the new "King Kong"! It's directed by Peter Jackson,
starring Emily Watson and Jack Black. I give it two opposable
thumbs up, and I wouldn't be surprised if it sweeps the Academy
Awards!
Why do I bring this up on Spectropop? I've had a simean
obsession for a long time. I wrote "Monkey Got His Eye On You",
with Neil Goldberg, for the infamous "Shadow Mann" album in
1968. In 1979 I co-wrote "Mabu", with Joe Klein, who co-
produced my Casablanca album, "Another Island". In each song
King Kong is mentioned by name. I wonder if anyone out there
knows of any other songs where they give the King a shout-out?
Regards,
Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:01:04 -0000
From: Peter Andreasen
Subject: Diane Ray CD
With all the talk about Diane Ray I wanted to you know that
there is a new CD out by her just now (a split w/ Janie Grant).
I don´t know if it's legit or not, anyway:
http://www.discol.com/sizzlers.htm
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:33:53 -0000
From: Damian
Subject: Boyce & Hart and Barry DeVorzon
I just heard Boyce & Hart's "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight",
and it reminded me that Barry & The Tamerlanes had a song with
an identical title about five years earlier. Both songs are
upbeat "pop" (I hate the term "bubblegum"). I know there are a
lot of different songs that share the same title as each other.
"Cherish" comes to mind immediately. But how many songs share
the same six-word title?
Damian
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:45:01 -0000
From: John Frederick Brown
Subject: Re: Deano Wilson / "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
Recently I met a young lady, Gemma, in my hometown who says her
mom was "Deano" Wilson, a British teen singer of the 1960s who
charted a couple of Columbia UK 45s. In Britain she was known
as "The With-It Girl", and she did some modelling and TV
appearances alongside Tom Jones, Englebert, the Stones, etc.
Gemma could not identify the titles of her mom's 45, and I thought
"wouldn't it be interesting if I get her some copies of her mom's
material".
My research shows that Deano recorded 5 Columbia UK 45s:
"Baby, Let Me Be Your Baby"
"Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
"The With-It Song"
"Just I Child In This World"
"Starlight"
along with whatever was on their B-sides.
I found an mp3 of "Baby, Let Me Be Your Baby" and gave Gemma a
copy. She gave a copy to her mom, and her mom, Deano, called me.
(She now has her own theatre company in Ontario, Canada.) So now,
lots of Deano Wilson's grandchildren have copies of a lost track
of their grandmother's foray into '60s pop.
In regards to Deano's recording of "Please, Don't Talk To The
Lifeguard", the story gets even more interesting. I told her that
I knew of the early 1960s recording of the song by Diane Ray. I
told her that I had used "Lifeguard" in the pre-show music to my
original musical ("My Town, My Guy And Me") based on the Lesley
Gore material, and that when Lesley came to Nova Scotia to see my
show last year, it was one of the songs we discussed. I also told
Deano that I thought that "Lifeguard" was as reflective of the
early '60s girl group sound as "Johnny Angel", "Bobby's Girl",
"Johnny Get Angry" and even "It's My Party".
Then I made my faux pas. I asked Deano in what year she recorded
the "British" cover of this "American" hit. There was silence for
a moment ... and then she said that as far as she knew the song
had been written especially for her. In the most polite way
possible I asked if she was sure. She said, "Yes, it was written
by the same team of composers who had written some of my other
hits". She had never heard the Diane Ray version and as a matter
of fact never knew it existed until I mentioned it.
This I want to check out. I know Diane's was 1963 and I know
Andrea Carroll's was in 1961. I do not know the release date for
Deano's.
I would love to confirm that the "Deano" original was covered in
the States but at this point I believe the opposite is true. I
believe Deano's version to be a British cover of an American hit.
Also I would love to have mp3 copies of any other Deano material
out there, so I can pass them on to the lady who made them. So if
you know ..
Thanks,
jfb
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:41:26 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: A little more Tams
Me previously:
> We need a decent CD from the Tams. The one on the UK BGO label
> has only 14 tracks - miserly in this day and age.
Roger Kaye replied:
> Mike, there are a couple of decent ones out there. I picked
> up a 1998 one on the Half Moon / Universal (UK) label called
> "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me - The Best of the Tams" with 22
> tracks. Most of the hits, a few interesting covers like "The
> Letter" and "Anna (Go To Him)", and 6 Joe South writing
> credits. Another one of more questionable origin is a 30
> tracker called "Dancing Mood" on the Ring of Stars label,
> allegedly out of Italy, that contains material from their
> Arlen, ABC, 1-2-3 and Compleat recordings.
Thanks for the information, Roger. Is the quality any good on
the "Dancing Mood" CD? I'd really like some more of the Tams'
Arlen output. I see it's available from the Wax Museum in
Charlotte.
Mike
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:39:04 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: "The Ballad Of Paul" by the Mystery Tour
I have a special favour to ask on behalf of my pal Rob Finnis,
who's working on a CD project entitled "Beatlemaniacs". For
mastering purposes, he needs a nice clean copy of "The Ballad
Of Paul" by the Mystery Tour, released on MGM 14097 in 1969.
Can anyone help? If so, just reply to this message and he or
I will get back to you. You'd be making a "Beatlemaniac" very
happy.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:42:01 -0000
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Deano Wilson / "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
John Frederick Brown asks about the year Deano's "Lifeguard"
was released.
It came out on UK Columbia in 1966. Presumably recorded before
it was released, but probably not five years before......
Peter
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:41:47 -0800
From: Charles Ulrich
Subject: Re: King Kong of a Kwestion
Artie Wayne:
> In each song King Kong is mentioned by name. I wonder if anyone
> out there knows of any other songs where they give the King a
> shout-out?
Not really Spectropop territory, but:
King Kong by the Kinks
King Kong by the Mothers Of Invention
--Charles
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