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Spectropop - Digest Number 2172



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There are 14 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. New Year with Honey & the Bees
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. New Year songs
           From: David A Young 
      3. Re: Three Degrees
           From: Simon White 
      4. Re: Apache
           From: Justin McDevitt 
      5. Phil's Xmas Album
           From: John Fox 
      6. Re: Earl Jean & the Cookies
           From: John Clemente 
      7. Dick Kallman Drops In As "Hank" LP
           From: John H  
      8. Connie Francis, Larry Marks, "Always Magic.."
           From: Rob Pingel 
      9. Re: New Year songs > the Gems
           From: Will Stos 
     10. Connie Francis and Tommy
           From: David Bell 
     11. Re: Apache
           From: Steve Harvey 
     12. Re: Wrecking Crewe
           From: Phil Chapman 
     13. Re:Auld Lang Syne - Any fab femme versions?
           From: Chris King 
     14. Nashville TN Record stores
           From: Paul Urbahns 


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________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:46:15 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: New Year with Honey & the Bees David A Young: > Other Spectropop-type gals (sometimes with guys) weighing > in on turn-of-the-calendar issues include The Adlibs' "I > Stayed Home (New Year's Eve)" (released in 1989 but > recorded in vintage doo-wop style), Paul and Paula's "A > New Year, A New Ring," Beverley's "Happy New Year" > (featured in musica a year or two ago), Honey and the > Bees' rendition of "Auld Lang Syne" ... Great group, Honey & the Bees. They should have been big, but lost out in the Philly Sound stakes to the Three Degrees and others. "Jing Jing A Ling", the other side of the 45 mentioned above, is out on CD. Here's their story from the booklet: --------------------------------------------------------- Honey & the Bees In mid-'60s Philadelphia, not long since a hothouse of teenage dance crazes, the times they were a-changing. The "Gravy" had congealed on Dee Dee Sharp's "Mashed Potatoes", while Patti LaBelle and her Bluebelles had become disenchanted with their endless trek "Down The Aisle". A new breed of young writers, producers and performers were transforming the Philly sound. Honey & the Bees were among the artists whose music epitomised the new lush, highly orchestrated, romantic approach. Originally known as the Superiorettes, then, briefly, as Sugar & the Spices, Nadine Felder and her group - Cassandra Wooten, Jean Davis and Gwendolyn Oliver - made their disc debut as the Yum Yums, with "Gonna Be A Big Thing", released on ABC Paramount in 1965. They became Honey & the Bees shortly afterwards and signed with Jimmy Bishop's Arctic label. They cut five singles for the logo between 1966 and 1969, when the company closed shop. The irresistible combination of girl groups and Christmas was realised to perfection on the girls' first post-Arctic waxing, "Jing Jing A Ling". Sporting some great singing from Nadine and her gang, their sole Chess outing sported more bell-trees than you could shake Phil Spector at, AND you could dance to it. This single also appeared on Gamble & Huff's North Bay label. Jimmy Bishop then moved his protégées over to the Josie label, who put out half a dozen 45s by the group over the next two years. Their Josie swan song, "It's Gonna Take A Miracle", was an almost hit, prompting the release of a highly glamorous Honey & the Bees album, a top collectable these days. Honey & the Bees called it quits in 1973 after two singles on Bell failed to chart. Cassandra and Gwendolyn were rewarded within a few years when they twice made the Top 20 as two-thirds of the exotically garbed Ritchie Family. ---------------------------------------------------------- I've posted Honey & the Bees' Hogmanay offering to musica. Details are: "Auld Lang Syne" (Chess 2088 and North Bay 303, 1970); new lyrics by Jimmy Bishop and Bernard Broomer; a Penguin Production. To hear it click here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:19:36 -0000 From: David A Young Subject: New Year songs Will Stos: > Did the Gems record a New Year single? The have one called > something like "Happy New Love," but I thought they had > recorded "Happy New Year" vocals over top of the track or > does the song refer to New Year's in some way?. I'm not sure > where I heard this, or if I'm just crazy. Does anyone know? The version of "Happy New Love" I have on Chess 1930 does include a couple of musical nods to "Auld Lang Syne," suggesting that Minnie et al might be encountering their romantic good luck at the turning of the year, but they never come right out and say (sing) it. I'd love it if Will's theory turns out to be true and there's a more New Year-specific recording of the song. But what I'm afraid he's thinking of is their previous single pairing "All of It" with "Love for Christmas": essentially the same song, but one side with seasonal lyrics and the other with words for the rest of the year. David A. Young -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:12:10 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Three Degrees Jana B wrote: > The Three Degrees had a very nice New Year's song on their > first self-entitled Phil Int'l Records' LP called "Year of > Decision." It had a message that touched on social and > personal issues. Written by Gamble and Huff, it was first > released in 1973. Good call Jana! We don't get enough Three Degrees on Spectropop - the group's pre Philly Int stuff is well worth investigating. Simon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:44:00 -0600 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Re: Apache Roy Clough wrote: > Apache was not in same league as The Shadows and I can > only assume that you guys/gals across the pond never got > to hear their version. I first heard the Shadows version of Apache in 1989 when I picked up a double Lp Best Of at a Minneapolis record shop, a find that I consider a semi-miracle since I had never come across any of their music during various other record sleuthing forays. Until recently, I was under the mistaken impression that the Shadows version of Apache preceeded the Jurgen Ingman hit that I first heard in 1960 and so was more favorably biased towards the Ingman version and for that matter I still am regardless of which one predated the other. I haven't heard the Shadows version in a while and as I remember, it's a bit faster than the Ingman track. I also admit that part of my preference for Ingman's treatment of this great instrumental involves the memories that I associate with it, as a relatively new, (soon to be avid) 8-year old AM radio listener, (including country music). Finally, all this being said, I think Jurgen Ingman's version of this song has a more interesting sound! A great New Year to all of you! Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:45:42 EST From: John Fox Subject: Phil's Xmas Album I must have listened to "A Christmas Gift For You" in its entirety at least 10 times in the past few weeks. I also read the great website learned about in a posting here about a week ago. That account of the recording notes that the sessions took place in July of 1963. I'm not doubting that timing, but if so, that means Phil was not only a genius but a real gambler in terms of betting, among other things, that listeners would even know who The Ronettes were ("Be My Baby" didn't hit the charts till late August). Also, that songs like "Be My Baby" would be hits worthy of having their exact style copied on the Christmas Album (see "Frosty The Snowman"). The same goes for "Wait Till My Bobby Gets Home" (charted starting in late July and style copied in "Winter Wonderland"), and "Then He Kissed Me" (charted starting in mid-August and style copied in "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer"). The other thing that struck me was that "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" copied the style of "Da Do Ron Ron" (not a timing problem since it charted in the spring of 1963), and the Bruce Springsteen version of the same song (recorded in 1975 and first charting in 1985) starts out by copping the style of "Be My Baby" and ends up as "Do Do Ron Ron". Merry Christmas, Phil. You're probably not looking forward to a very Happy New Year. John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:18:23 -0000 From: John Clemente Subject: Re: Earl Jean & the Cookies Max Weiner wrote: > I just purchased the Rhino Girl Group Box set. While I can't > name all my favorites on it, I do have a question concerning > Earl Jean & "I'm into Something Good". Is that Carole King > helping out on the background vocals? It sure sounds like her. > I have listened to that song for years and wondered that. > Can anyone tell me? Hello Max, You are correct! Carole King and Earl-Jean's sister Darlene McCrea are singing backing vocals on "I'm Into Something Good". They did the same for her follow-up, "Randy/They're Jealous Of Me". Regards, John Clemente -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:45:01 -0000 From: John H Subject: Dick Kallman Drops In As "Hank" LP One of my favorite lost-and-found surprises of the year was this 1965 album, recorded by tv star (if only for a season) and all-around charm salesman, Dick Kallman. The production doesn't stray too far from the sounds of the day (Hatch-lite pop, some Broadway balladry, and a Motown rip or two), but Kallman's charisma and surprisingly strong voice won me over. David Gates was at the helm, and it was probably his considerable talent as a producer that kept this obvious cash-in from really sounding like one. Does anyone out there have anymore info on this album, or on Dick Kallman? (Aside from what one has already learned via endless Googling, of course.) I managed to obtain both stereo and mono versions of the LP, but have no way of encoding vinyl to MP3s. If anyone can be of any assistance, please drop me a line. (It would totally make my New Year's, moreso than any old ball drop!) ciao -John H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:36:04 -0000 From: Rob Pingel Subject: Connie Francis, Larry Marks, "Always Magic.." Does anyone know who performed the background vocals on "Tommy" by Connie Francis. The male falsetto sounds a lot like Lou Christie and the female vocals in line with the Angels or possibly the Tammys. Recently discovered a record by Larry Marks titled "Don't Slam the Door in My Face" on VMC 717. Sort of an early precursor to the disco age. Seems like the writers of the later mega-hit "I Will Survive" were possibly influenced. The record credits Barry White as producer, and Gene Page as arranger. Checked with Record Master who have no entry for Larry Marks on the VMC label. They do attribute the song to an artist named David on VMC 717, and a release date of 1967. Do I have a misprinted copy? Read and enjoyed "Always Magic in the Air" over the Christmas weekend. It's a worthy purchase, but could have used a better edit job. Might be fun for Spectropoppers to weigh in on whatever mistakes (large or small) that they discover. Also some of the author's subjective assessments/comments could use a good challenge. Happy New Year, Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:58:22 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: New Year songs > the Gems Me: > Did the Gems record a New Year single? The have one called > something like "Happy New Love," but I thought they had > recorded "Happy New Year" vocals over top of the track or > does the song refer to New Year's in some way?. I'm not sure > where I heard this, or if I'm just crazy. Does anyone know? David A Young: > I'd love it if Will's theory turns out to be true and there's > a more New Year-specific recording of the song. But what I'm > afraid he's thinking of is their previous single pairing "All > of It" with "Love for Christmas": essentially the same song, > but one side with seasonal lyrics and the other with words > for the rest of the year. You're probably right. I don't have any of this stuff on MP3 or CD, so it's not easily accessible to check. But David has likely made sense of my mash up of memories. Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:46:44 EST From: David Bell Subject: Connie Francis and Tommy Previously: > Does anyone know who performed the background vocals on > "Tommy" by Connie Francis. The male falsetto sounds a lot > like Lou Christie and the female vocals in line with the > Angels or possibly the Tammys On the American cd, Rocksides, it says that the background vocals for Tommy are provided by the Tokens. David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:39:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Apache Justin McDevitt wrote: > Until recently, I was under the mistaken impression that > the Shadows' version of Apache preceeded the Jurgen Ingman > hit that I first heard in 1960 and so was more favorably > biased towards the Ingman version and for that matter I > still am regardless of which one predated the other. No, The Shadows' version was first!! Atlantic Records had the rights to the Shadows version and blew it. Jurgan picked up on the fact that the song was a hit all over the world, but not the USA and did a quick cover. Things might have been different for both the Shads and Atlantic Records if their "Apache" had taken off. I will try to post the cover of the US Atlantic lp ($125.00) on the site. That said, I like Jurgen's version as it does have a few more guitar lines that Hank doesn't do. In many ways "Apache" was for budding Brit guitarists what "Walk Don't Run" was for their US counterparts. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:47:22 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Wrecking Crewe > PHILLES 134 - Ike & Tina Turner > Two To Tango (Manning - Hoffman)/ > A Man Is A Man Is A Man (Pete Antell) > Prod: Bob Crewe > Arr & Cond: Herb Bernstein Phil M: > How did a Bob Crewe production wind up on Philles? Handing over production of I&TT to Bob Crewe, and the Ronettes to Jeff Barry, Phil S (temporarily) retired hurt after the spectacular failure (in the USA) of "River Deep - Mountain High", which was however, as many writers on the subject seem to omit, a huge hit in the UK and raised awareness of Tina as a solo talent. PC -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:52:58 -0000 From: Chris King Subject: Re:Auld Lang Syne - Any fab femme versions? Greetings fellow Spectropoppers - I'm running the Da Doo Ron Ron NYE shindig tomorrow night & am desperately trying to locate a vaguely uptempo, ideally soulful, reading of the old staple Auld Lang Syne. Due to my 10 week old daughter Grace, I've really not had much time to devote to scouring, and having rejected the Babs Streisand thingy and am currently reduced to spinning a misty-eyed, verging on funereal rendering courtesy of Jo Stafford supplied by my Dad. If needs be it'll have to suffice but just wondered if anyone out there in Spectroland knows of a fab, femmecentric version? Oodles of thanks in advance, Chris Da Doo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:01:29 -0500 From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Nashville TN Record stores I will be in Nashville in a couple weeks on a record buying trip. Does anyone on the list know of any stores that sell good vinyl at cheap prices, besides Phono Luxe and the local thrift stores. You can email me direct with suggestions. Thanks! Paul Urbahns Radcliff, KY -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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