[Prev by Date]
[Next by Date]
[Index]
[Search]
Spectropop - Digest Number 531
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002
________________________________________________________________________
______________ ______________
______________ ______________
______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________
______________ ______________
________________________________________________________________________
Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: The Orchids
From: Jan Kristensen
2. Re: Annette
From: Laura Pinto
3. Gary Usher related reissues
From: Ron Weekes
4. Eternity's Children
From: rgsauer
5. The Orchids
From: Ian Slater
6. Re: Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying
From: Peter Lerner
7. Re: Rev-Ola Re-Reissues
From: Mark Frumento
8. The Orchids
From: Jon
9. Re: Eternity's Children
From: Cedric Chaillet
10. Re: Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying
From: Ken Silverwood
11. Rev Ola & Eternity's Children
From: Dave Matthews
12. Re: Rev Ola
From: Ron Weekes
13. Jan and Dean and Brian Wilson
From: Will Stos"
14. Debbie Reynolds
From: Country Paul
15. Re: Rev-Ola Re-Reissues
From: Luis
16. Re: THE BREAKAWAYS
From: Mick Patrick
17. Scopitone correction
From: Country Paul
18. Re: Bluegrass Gals
From: Bill George
19. Re: 2 of Clubs, two of country, Larry, Bobby, and Terry
From: Country Paul
20. Phil Spector sessions question
From: Mike Love Fan
21. Re: The Breakaways
From: Jon
22. Re: The Breakaways
From: Will Stos
23. Re: 2 of Clubs
From: Will Stos
24. Re: Bobby Jameson
From: Bob Rashkow
25. Re: THE ORCHIDS & THE ALLEN SISTERS
From: Mick Patrick
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:40:11 +0200
From: Jan Kristensen
Subject: Re: The Orchids
Regarding the Orchids, I can't remember if the story of the meeting
of the Beatles and the Orchids has been told here on Spectropop.
On December 7th 1963 the Beatles sat in the panel on "Juke Box Jury"
a British TV pop panel show. Their duty was to rate - hit or miss -
some new records. Among the records they voted on was Elvis Presley
"Kiss Me Quick", Swinging Blue Jeans "Hippy Hippy Shake", Shirley
Ellis "The Nitty Gritty" and record no.9 the Orchids "Love Hit Me".
John Lennon thought it was a steal from Uncle Phil's sound. Paul
thought it was quite good to be a British record. They voted it a
miss by 3 to 1. Then the Orchids were introduced to the Beatles,
having been secretly present. John said it was a dirty trick.
Jan K
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:58:14 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Re: Annette
Stuffed Animal:
> Any additions/corrections, LP?
Hey there, sorry for the delay in responding. There are few
songs I love more than "Tall Paul", the Sherman Brothers'
inauguration into the wonderful world of Disney. Get out your
jump ropes and do a little double dutching! However, I also
like my namesake, "Pineapple Princess", with its luau rockin'
beat. ANNETTE RULES!!!
Laura aka Pineapple Princess Pinto
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:47:44 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Gary Usher related reissues
I haven't checked out Sundazed site for a while, but I was just there when I
read in my Collector's Choice catalog that came in the mail yesterday that the
Gary Usher produced "Of Cabbages and Kings" by Chad and Jeremy has been
reissued by Sundazed.
The track listings are:
Chad & Jeremy-
Of Cabbages And Kings CD
The archetypal British Invasion moptop duo are caught in the winds of change.
1967's Of Cabbages And Kings, issued in the ample wake of Sgt. Pepper, is a
horse of a different color, preferably paisley. From the Dickensian tombstone-
tale of "Rest In Peace" to the ambitious five movements of "The Progress
Suite," it's a perfect little slice of incense-and-peppermints pop/rock, as
bracing today as ever.
TRACK LISTING
Rest In Peace
The Gentle Cold Of Dawn
Busman's Holiday
Can I See You
Family Way
I'll Get Around To It When And If I Can
The Progress Suite - Movements 1 Thru 5
-Prologue
-Decline
-Editorial
-Fall
-Epilogue
BONUS TRACKS:
Manners Maketh Man *
The Gentle Cold Of Dawn (instrumental)*
Cautionary Tale*
Rest In Peace (single version)
Painted Dayglow Smile (single version)
Sister Marie
*previously unissued
I also noticed that they have reissued Curt Boettcher's "Just an Innocent Face".
It's listings are:
Curt Boettcher-
There's An Innocent Face CD
After taking sunshine pop to fabulous heights with the Millennium, Curt
Boettcher embarked upon a solo career in 1973 with his Elektra debut, There's
An Innocent Face, which stands as one of the most gloriously anachronistic
albums of the time, seamlessly incorporating doo-wop, folk, and country with
intense, concisely-crafted chunks of ear candy. This first-time CD reissue
features notes by noted Boettcher biographer Dawn Eden, illustrated by
previously unseen outtakes from the original album photo sessions.
TRACK LISTING
I Love You More Each Day
Such A Lady
She'll Stay With You
Love You Yes I Do
Without Her
Bobby California
The Choice Is Yours
Malachi Star
Lay Down
I've Been Wrong
Wufferton Frog
Other's may be interested to know that Collector's Choice has the "Eternity's
Children" CD available in their current catalog.
I can't tell the label name. Maybe they got ahold of some copies of the Rev-
Ola reissue. It contains twenty-five tracks so I'm guessing it's the same.
Ron Weekes
www.garyusher.com
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:40:47 -0000
From: rgsauer
Subject: Eternity's Children
Ron Weekes wrote:
> Others may be interested to know that Collector's Choice
> has the "Eternity's Children" CD available in their current
> catalog. I can't tell the label name. Maybe they got hold
> of some copies of the Rev-Ola reissue. It contains
> twenty-five tracks so I'm guessing it's the same.
Apparently the Cherry Red label is reissuing all the Rev-Ola
releases. One of the first is "Eternity's Children" It's
listed as a June 25 release by Amazon.com
(the other)Ron
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:02:00 +0100
From: Ian Slater
Subject: The Orchids
Further to my last message (Digest no. 530), I should have mentioned
another Orchids link (http://www.sneeze.dircon.co.uk/pretwon-t.html).
I'd hoped to upload one one their Holtzman productions to Musica but
failed miserably (I can't find how to copy CD tracks onto my hard drive,
let alone do the clever stuff) so I've uploaded a picture to the
Miscellaneous pictures file in Spectropop instead.
I've also set out a full (That's a provocative assertion on this site
- I'd love it to be proved incomplete!) UK / US discography below. The
Girls' Scene is still available (buy it please) and has 2 of their best
tracks on it - in fact I'd rate "Soldier Boy" as the best British record
ever - and lead singer Georgina wrote it! Lots of other goodies from
Decca's UK catalogue of the 60s too.
It would be wonderful if the "lost" tracks were found and could appear
in a Girls' Scene Vol. 2, as Ian Chapman said in his definitive article
in the Spectropop girl group articles.
Ian Slater
The Orchids Discography
United Kingdom Releases
Decca F.11743. (20 September1963) Music Director: Mike Leander, Production:
Talmy & Stone
Gonna Make Him Mine (Lewis)
Stay At Home (Talmy)
Decca F.11785 (1963)
Love Hit Me (Talmy) MD: Charles Blackwell, Production Talmy & Stone /
Don't Make Me Mad (Berry, Matthew) MD: Gordon Franks, Prod. Marvin Holtzman
Decca F.11861 (1964)
I've Got That Feeling (Davies) MD: Charles Blackwell, Production Talmy &
Stone /
Larry (Hoffman, Klein) MD: Gordon Franks, Prod. Marvin Holtzman
Decca LK 4620 - "Just for You" Film Soundtrack (1964)
Mr. Scrooge (Hiller, Talmy) Produced by Shel Talmy
Decca F.12100 (1965) (As the Exceptions)
Soldier Boy (Oliver) Production: Larry Page
What More Do You Want (Carter-Lewis, Ford), Production: Larry Page
United States Releases
London 9637 (1964) As the Blue Orchids
Love Hit Me (Talmy) MD: Charles Blackwell, Production Talmy & Stone /
Don't Make Me Mad (Berry, Matthew) MD: Gordon Franks, Prod. Marvin Holtzman
London 9669 (1964) As the Blue Orchids
Oo Chang-a-Lang (Talmy)
I've Got That Feeling (Davies) MD: Charles Blackwell, Production Talmy &
Stone
Modern Re-releases
Liverpool 1963-1964 Volume 2 -LP - See For Miles CM125 (1983)
I've Got That Feeling
Girl Zone - LP - Impact ACT 008 (1986)
Mr. Scrooge
Girls With Guitars - LP - Impact ACT 012 (1989)
Oo Chang-a-Lang
Pop Inside the 60s Vol. 1 - CD - See for Miles SEECD 386
Love Hit Me, Don't Make Me Mad
The Girls' Scene - CD - Deram 844 897-2 (1999)
Oo Chang-a-Lang, Soldier Boy
Film Appearance
"Just for You" 1964 ("Disk-o-Tek Holiday" in the USA)
TV - "Ready Steady Go" - end November or early December 1963
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:14:44 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying
Ken wrote:
> Are you refering to the Gerry & The Pacemakers hit
> (Marsden wrote that one, according to my LP label)
> or a different song with the same title?
Picking up on the "Don't let the sun catch you crying" correspondence,
there are definitely two songs. One is the Gerry and the Pacemakers
hit, and a completely different one is on one of my Jackie DeShannon
albums. This latter was not written by Jackie or indeed by Bobby Darin,
but according to the label was penned by Joe Greene, who was last known
to me as a pen-name for the Italian opera composer Giuseppe Verdi
(who says Spectropop does not reach the highest intellectual planes?)
Peter
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:07:20 -0400
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Rev-Ola Re-Reissues
> Apparently the Cherry Red label is reissuing all the Rev-Ola
> releases. One of the first is "Eternity's Children"
This is good news! and yet, also bad news. I was hoping to make
a mint on my Rev-Ola releases by selling them on eBay. For a
while some of them were going for decent money. Oh well, maybe
my copy of Barnaby Bye's LP will be the bread winner! Seriously
though, this is good news for those of us who missed a few of
these great reissues.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:50:28 -0000
From: Jon
Subject: The Orchids
Good Lord.....I had no idea The Orchids looked like that! I
thought they were a girl group from Detroit! Who'd have thunk it!
Convetry...I was also surprised to finally see a picture of The
Breakaways. These British girls could really put down that Wall of
Sound! Oh how I wish they'd release a CD of the Breakaways. I
think "That's How It Goes" is one of the all time best girl group
recordings.
Jon
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:19:56 -0000
From: Cedric Chaillet
Subject: Re: Eternity's Children
(the other)Ron wrote:
> Apparently the Cherry Red label is reissuing all the Rev-Ola
> releases. One of the first is "Eternity's Children" It's
> listed as a June 25 release by Amazon.com
More than that it seems that the Rev-Ola label is back in business!
Check this out psych pop fan!! :
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newletters/june/4.htm
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:29:53 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying
Right,
So the one that Gerry hit with was his own composition,
the one Ray Charles did was by the opera chappie "Joe Greene",
which is also the Jackie DeShannon cut. So the Darin track & comp.
Gerry Marsden did & charted with is "I'll Be There" !!!
I'm glad that's clearer!!!
Ken On The West Coast
ps Darin did cut "When I Get Home" before the Searchers
didn't he.?
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:17:17 -0000
From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Rev Ola & Eternity's Children
Yes indeed, the great news for soft pop fans is that Rev-Ola
are releasing material again through the Cherry Red label
(http://cherryred.co.uk) The Eternity's Children CD has been
re-released again with superior booklet whilst Thomas & Richard
Frost's unreleased 1969 output also hits the record stores this
month. Upcoming releases would appear to include Sandy Salisbury,
Lee Mallory, Moon and Blades Of Grass.
Thank you Joe Foster.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:23:18 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Re: Rev Ola
So if I understand this correctly...does this mean Rev Ola which became
Poptones is now Cherry Red?
Ron Weekes
www.garyusher.com
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:38:05 -0000
From: Will Stos"
Subject: Jan and Dean and Brian Wilson
A&E is showing a biography of Jan and Dean tonight at 8:00 p.m.
followed by a two-hour special on the life of Brian Wilson. I suppose
they're repeats, but just in case you missed them the first time like I did.
Will : )
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:18:44 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Debbie Reynolds
FYI, forwarded from the Outsider Music group for your appreciation:
"One of the first Scopitones ever made was Debbie Reynolds' "We'll Sing In
The Sunshine." Reynolds owned the company that made most of the American
Scopitones, Harman-ee Productions, so this Scopitone is probably what
Reynolds wanted the rest of them to be like. In the end, the Scopitone
business was a total fiasco for her, so there's something extra sad about
the hopefulness of "We'll Sing In The Sunshine." It is also the most
wholesome Scopitone you'll ever see (although the lyrics are a strange
comment on the "virtues" of loveless relationships).
"Debbie Reynolds' "We'll Sing In The Sunshine" can be found here:
http://www.sharpeworld.com/weekly
"Singing in the sunshine,
Jennifer Sharpe
in charge, http://www.sharpeworld.com"
Limited shelf life on this site; in the words of Howard Tate, "Get it while
you can."
Country Paul
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:40:05 -0000
From: Luis
Subject: Re: Rev-Ola Re-Reissues
If you check out the following links you can see more titles that are
in the works:
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newletters/april/1.htm
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newletters/may/1.htm
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newletters/june/4.htm
I'm especially excited about the folowing titles
Thomas & Richard Frost "Visualise"
Blades of Grass
The Moon
Chris Lucey
Bobby Jameson
Mr.Foster always digs up the best. I've been wondering about
the "Visualise" lp for a few years. I have a couple Thomas & Richard
Frost 45's and one of them says "from the album Visualise". I figured
it was never released because I couldn't find ANY info about it and
nobody had ever seen it.
The Moon Lp's are wonderful as well.
Luis
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:46:27 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: THE BREAKAWAYS
Jon wrote:
> ...the Breakaways. These British girls could really put down
> that Wall of Sound! Oh how I wish they'd release a CD of
> the Breakaways. I think "That's How It Goes" is one of the
> all time best girl group recordings.
Hi,
Agreed, Jon, the Breakaways were wonderful. You might like to
know that RPM are planning a CD by the group. And not before
time. It will be a mixture of their own recordings and backup
work for hip chicks like Andee Silver, Francoise Hardy, Sharon
Tandy and a ton of others. Keep up to date on RPM stuff via
their website at: http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk
By the way, add the name of Millicent Martin to the list of
artists the Breakaways sang backups for. Or am I teaching
M. Anthony how to suck an egg?! :-)
MICK PATRICK
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:33:20 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Scopitone correction
Again forwarded from Jennifer Sharpe: "In my last posting, I should have
said that one of the first American Scopitones ever made was Debbie
Reynolds' "We'll Sing In The Sunshine." ...Scopitones were thriving in
France long before they ever came to the U. S."
Country Paul
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:59:13 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Bluegrass Gals
Mike,
Far from charging you with sacrilege, I applaud your musical tastes. As a
country musician myself, I find nothing wrong with your appreciation of
bluegrass. Alison Krauss has one of the purest voicest around. I'm not as big
a fan of Patty Loveless, but I would never chastise anyone for liking her. I
certainly don't dislike her. Two nights ago I had the pleasure of seeing
Dolly Parton in concert on the first concert of her first tour in ten years.
It was all acoustic and she was exceptional, as was her band. She performed
old songs and new, and covered her rather cheesy 80s pop period with a nice
acapella set surrounded by four of her guys. I won't go on about other
artists I'm enjoying, as it is off topic. But I certainly listen to more
country than girl groups (ouch, quit throwing things at me!!!!) Listen on....
Bill
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:20:46 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: 2 of Clubs, two of country, Larry, Bobby, and Terry
2 of Clubs had the one mid-chart hit and disappeared. Don't
know where to find a Fraternity label discography to find out
if there was an LP or follow-ups.
Rashkovsky, I second you on Allison Krause; like Emmylou Harris
(or George Jones), she could sing the phone book and be
interesting. Patty Loveless I'm still working on, but most of
the work is positive. Like most of us in this group, as music
lovers, we like many genres. You've topped off two good ones
there; I'd put Emmylou or Dolly Parton's non-pop (except for
"Happy Happy Birthday Baby," but that's really - and real -
rock) including her recent return to her roots in your
Patty Loveless slot, though.
Guess I should check out the Million $ Girl Groups and
Doo Wop titles; thanks for the eye-openers, group.
Is "Larry" by the Orchids a cover of the song of the same
title by the Allen Sisters of Canada and released on Shell
in the US?
Peter Lerner, re: Bobby Jameson, his most promising album was
on Verve (US); he had one song with the refrain, "See dawn
see dawn, setting sun" or some such lyric, that actually got
some US airplay. I think he also had some tracks on Talamo,
which if I'm not mistaken was run by a sham preacher with
a large cult following in the early-to-mid 60s.
Anyone with more info?
Finally, Terry & the Tunisians were indeed on Seville, which
in the US was distributed by London; as a DJ at the time, my
copy is on the orange "fan" background common to all
London-distributed labels, hence my confusion.
Country Paul
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:06:27 EDT
From: Mike Love Fan
Subject: Phil Spector sessions question
Has anyone published, or put on-line, a "sessionography" of
Phil's sessions, especially from the 60s? I'd love to know
stuff like when "Be My Baby" was tracked, etc.
It doesn't have to be as detailed as, say, Mark L's book on
the Beatles, but something. Even in the Spectropop database,
there isn't anything like this.
On a related note, while researching, there is supposed to be
a book out on Leon Russell that will have a section on his
sessionography, including the Spector years. But apparently
it hasn't been released yet. Supposedly, it's due in
"September" but the web page's date looks like it was done
in 2000. Does anyone know about this?
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:27:10 -0000
From: Jon
Subject: Re: The Breakaways
Thanks for the update on a forthcoming cd of the Breakaways. I
bookmarked that record site and will frequently check in to see when
it's available. If you hear....please let us know. I wait with baited
breath! Jon
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:26:04 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: The Breakaways
Mick Patrick wrote:
> ...RPM are planning a CD by the (Breakaways). And not before
> time. It will be a mixture of their own recordings and backup
> work for hip chicks like Andee Silver, Francoise Hardy, Sharon
> Tandy and a ton of others. Keep up to date on RPM stuff via
> their website at: http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! More, Mick Patrick, tell us more! I checked
the RPM site - I couldn't find any reference to the possible release.
Seeing a collection of the Breakaways work is something so many fans
have been longing for. Why, if I heard a boxed set of my favourites
the Chiffons was also around the corner, I could die a happy man. Of
course, I would die a happier man after listening to both : )
Will
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:30:48 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: 2 of Clubs
Country Paul wrote:
> 2 of Clubs had the one mid-chart hit and disappeared. Don't
> know where to find a Fraternity label discography to find out
> if there was an LP or follow-ups.
The cut posted to musica reminded me of two things. The breathy
stacatto lead sounded similar to a song I've heard but am unfamiliar
with. Has anyone seen that Simpsons episode wher Homer sings along to
a song with the lyrics 'I am a freakazoid..." It could have been a
huge hit, but I hadn't heard of it other than that episode. Also,
even though they probably have no relation what so ever, I thought I
heard a hint of Ellie Greenwich. Maybe just the way the words were
annunciated.
Will : )
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 02:24:01 -0000
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Bobby Jameson
The "Talamo" 45s sound very intriguing. Here was a very talented
singer whose LP "Color Him In", the one on Verve (1967?) I picked up
only a few years back. Gentle yet haunting folk-pop sound somewhere
between Tim Rose and Leonard Cohen or Noel Harrison--somewhere in
that vast wilderness...!! I believe "See Dawn" is included on this
LP, which is most probably his best-known output. Wish I knew more
about him myself. Bobster
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:57:35 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: THE ORCHIDS & THE ALLEN SISTERS
Country Paul:
> Is "Larry" by the Orchids a cover of the song of the same
> title by the Allen Sisters of Canada and released on Shell
> in the US?
Hi,
Yes, Paul, the two groups cut the same Hoffman/Klein song.
Both versions were released in 1964. Dunno which came
first.
Thanks for confirming the nationality of the Allen Sisters. I had
always been a bit confused about their country of origin. I own
one other rather good 45 by this group, "Dream Boy", issued
on the Canadian label Quality, on which they sound quite
convincingly British. Now I know they weren't. Thanks.
MICK PATRICK
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
End
Spectropop text contents © copyright 2002 Spectropop unless
stated otherwise.
All rights in and to the contents of these documents, including each element embodied therein, is subject to copyright
protection under international copyright law. Any use, reuse, reproduction and/or adaptation without written permission of the owners is a violation of copyright law and is strictly prohibited. All rights reserved.