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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: IT'S MY PARTY
From: Bill Reed
2. Re: Gene Pitney - pre Musicor material
From: Mike Edwards
3. More Gore
From: Bill Reed
4. The Kangaroos
From: Denis Gagnon
5. Re: The Kangaroos
From: Phil Chapman
6. You're Invited To A Party
From: The Spectropop Team
7. Re: The Kangaroos
From: Denis Gagnon
8. Re: Grass Roots - Who Were They ?
From: Glenn
9. Re: The Kangaroos
From: Phil Chapman
10. Re: The Kangaroos
From: Denis Gagnon
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:14:38 -0000
From: Bill Reed
Subject: Re: IT'S MY PARTY
Mick Patrick wrote:
> You've all read the booklet for Lesley Gore's "I'll Cry If I Want
> To"/"Sings Of Mixed Up Hearts" CD, right?
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A few weeks ago there was some righteous bemoaning regarding the
paucity of Lesley Gore collections. A few were mentioned, but I am
not sure the one I picked up today was mentioned or not: a 1993
Australian entitled Start the Party Again, 30 tracks for 9.98 minus
Rhino Records 10 per cent "today only" discount. Raven Records, if
anyone want to know the tracks let me know and I will post a scan for
a couple of days on my Nick DeCaro web site.
I also finally purchased There's an Innocent Face, Curt Boetcher's
1970 effort for Elektra. I glanced at the credits and saw that there
was one I have never before seen on a recording, "Guest Engineer."
Imagine my surprise when I looked closer and discerned that the Guest
Sound Guy was none other than Peter Granet, who just completed
engineering a CD I have produced for Japan's Tokuma Records, Pinky
Winters' "The Lamp is Low."
I immediately put in a call to Peter to find out exactly what are the
duties of a "Guest Engineer." Wasn't home, but when I find out I'll
be sure to let you know.
Bill Reed
communities.msn.com/nickdecaro
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:28:24 -0400
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Gene Pitney - pre Musicor material
The Bear Family CD, Hits And Misses is also a great way to pick up on some
of Gene's earlier tracks. Here's amazon.com's web link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001B1G/qid=1027290204/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/102-5947102-4654518
Regards to all,
Mike Edwards
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:37:10 -0000
From: Bill Reed
Subject: More Gore
Mick Patrick wrote:
> You've all read the booklet for Lesley Gore's "I'll Cry If I Want
> To"/"Sings Of Mixed Up Hearts" CD, right?
BTW three of the tracks on the Lesley Gore Australian compilation,
Start the Party Again, are German tracks, incl. the German version
of You Don't Own Me, which translates to "Goodbye Tony" (then a whole
lotta Deutsch).
Notes on this affair, by the Australian editor of Billboard, Glenn A.
Baker, are not half bad. However, inasmuch as there is no mention of
these German Gore efforts, they don't appear to have been written for
this occasion.
Bill Reed
communities.msn.com/nickdecaro
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:49:11 -0000
From: Denis Gagnon
Subject: The Kangaroos
Hi
I'm new to this group and this is my first post.
I though I would test the members right away with a very obscure
song of the mid-sixties.
I bought this 45 around 1965. It was called "The Kangaroo" or
"Do the Kangaroo" and it was done by The Kangaroos. I would love
to find this song again. I assumed this had some Australian
background but my Aussie friend (who recommended this site)
assures me that this song or group is not from Australia.
Searches on the web have been more or less fruitless so far.
The only thing I have found that could be this song, is that
a Jimmy McHugh wrote a song called Do the Kangaroo sometimes
in the 60's. No trace of who might have recorded it, though.
Anyone has a clue about this song ?
thanks
Denis Gagnon
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:30:11 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: The Kangaroos
Denis Gagnon wrote:
> I bought this 45 around 1965. It was called "The Kangaroo" or
> "Do the Kangaroo" and it was done by The Kangaroos
Hi Denis, and welcome. Searching a US 45s database throws up
the following:
1962 Jimmy McHugh - Do The Kangaroo (Success 106)
1963 The Majorettes - Let's Do The Kangaroo (Troy 1004)
1965 Jimmy McHugh - Do The Kangaroo (Hunch 346)
The Kangaroos' version (if it is the same song) could well be an
obscure Canadian, UK or Australian recording, although it doesn't
ring any bells. Someone around here should know something about it.
I take it that your copy of the 45 is long gone?
Phil
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:42:40 +0100
From: The Spectropop Team
Subject: You're Invited To A Party
PARTY, PARTY, PARTY!
Following the success of our Christmas bash, the Team have
decided that the time has come for another get-together.
Each and every one of you are invited to join us on
Saturday August 17th for a summer party.
We've hired a West London terrace bar and are presently
embroiled in organising some entertainment for y'all.
Wanna join us? Email us for further details.
See you there,
The Spectropop Team
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 03:29:42 -0400 (Est (heure d'été))
From: Denis Gagnon
Subject: Re: The Kangaroos
Phil:
> The Kangaroos' version (if it is the same song) could well
> be an obscure Canadian, UK or Australian recording, although
> it doesn't ring any bells. Someone around here should know
> something about it.
> I take it that your copy of the 45 is long gone?
Phil - Yes the 45 is long gone, as is all my vinyl collection of
the 60's, that is about 2000 singles and 700 LP's. This is a long,
dull and complicated story..:-(
Obscure is the right word but I doubt that the Kangaroos were a
Canadian band. An Aussie friend checked in some sort of Australian
Rock and Roll bible in which, there is no mention whatsoever of
such a group or song. That leaves U.S.A. and England as a probability.
Oh, one last thing I just remembered. While I can't for the heck of
it remember on which label it was on, I have the distinct memory,
this label was was dark red or maroon (I never could tell the
difference).
Denis
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:53:08 -0000
From: Glenn
Subject: Re: Grass Roots - Who Were They ?
Norman [March 2002]:
> Barri and Sloan were supposed to have pulled in a group
> called The Bedouins to become the Grass Roots. Bill
> Fulton's vocals replaced P F Sloan's on "Where Were You...".
Bill Fulton actually WAS the lead singer on the Dunhill 45 of
"Where Were You When I Needed You" which charted. His version
is on the now out-of-print Grass Roots CD "Their All Time
Greatest Hits". P.F. Sloan's version appears on the CD's
"Anthology" from Rhino and "The Millenium Collection" on MCA.
I have a web page on the Grass Roots where I will be soon
publishing an interview I did with Rob Grill. This interview,
conducted in 1977, when Grill's memory was a bit fresher about
certain facts, and his opinions were considerably different
than they are today about certain issues, will blow away the
most frequently-perpetuated myth about the Grass Roots - that
they - Bratton, Entner, Grill and Coonce - were already
performing together as a band called the Thirteenth Floor, and
changed their name to the Grass Roots when offered the chance
by their producers P.F. Sloan and Steve Barri.
While an easy and convenient story to tell (Grill repeats the
myth if asked today), the fact is that the four had never
performed together before forming as the Grass Roots. Grill
tells a quite different version in this interview, and I, who
have kept the complete version of the interview to myself since
portions of it were published in 1977, feel I owe it to the
many Grass Roots fans and serious musical historians all over
the world to get the story straight once and for all. BTW, the
"Thirteenth Floor" version of their forming has been printed in
quite a few rock history books.
If Grill indeed told the truth in our interview, the oft-printed
and repeated story of the Thirteenth Floor is mostly false.
For as accurate an account as I believe you'll find on the
creation of "Where Were You When I Needed You", visit this
link on my page: http://home.att.net/~souldeep69/songs.html
My sources are interviews with: Joel Larson, the original
drummer of the Bedouins which contained Bill Fulton; Rob Grill,
the permanent bassist/singer of the group which became the
"real" Grass Roots, and Steve Barri, who of course co-wrote
and co-produced the song with P.F. Sloan and played and sang
on the original sessions.
Even these sources do not "guarantee" historical accuracy,
but as for who sang on which released version, the session
notes used for the research of the CDs do provide accurate
information on the singers on those CD versions.
Glenn
Golden Grass - The Grass Roots Fan Page
http://home.att.net/~souldeep69/index.html
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:20:11 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: The Kangaroos
Denis Gagnon wrote:
> An Aussie friend checked in some sort of Australian
> Rock and Roll bible in which, there is no mention whatsoever of
> such a group or song.
I thought it might be a one-off novelty recording by a football
team or something - surely there's an Australian football team
called The Kangaroos?
The song title has two consecutive entries at BMI, the first
credited to Leo Price, the second credited to Ken Knights/
Ruthie Steele. I suspect it was originally an instrumental by
the Leo Price Band/Orchestra.
Where (what country) did you buy the original 45?
Phil
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:48:56 -0400 (Est (heure d'été))
From: Denis Gagnon
Subject: Re: The Kangaroos
Hi
I bought the 45 in what was then my hometown, Montreal, Canada.
I now live in the suburbs, south of Montreal.
I doubt that this song was originally an instrumental. I don't
recall the words of the song but the words "Do the Kangaroo"
are often repeated and I would imagine that the Kangaroo was
just another dance as this was the period where each week would
bring a new dance craze (most of which nobody would remember a
few weeks later).
Denis
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