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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
From: Martin Roberts
2. Re: M seeks trivia
From: Phil Milstein
3. Re: M seeks trivia
From: Mikey
4. Re: Toni Wine
From: Michael Gessner
5. Re: Mary Weiss-Stokes of the Shangri-Las
From: james botticelli
6. Re: oldies radio on net?
From: james botticelli
7. Re: M seeks trivia
From: Guy Lawrence
8. Re: JOHN R. GLUCK, JR.
From: Mick Patrick
9. You Baby / Just for You Baby
From: Martin Roberts
10. Re: M seeks trivia / The Shillings
From: Neil Hever
11. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
From: Mick Patrick
12. Re: Backcomb'n'Beat: Dream Babes 3
From: Mark Frumento
13. Re: oldies radio on net?
From: Ron Weekes
14. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
From: Gary Diamond
15. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
From: Doug
16. Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
From: Kingsley Abbott
17. HUCK FINNS
From: Scott
18. Re: HUCK FINNS
From: Phil Chapman
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:39:28 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
I'm very pleased that the Jack Nitzsche site has officially
settled in its 'spiritual' home, Spectropop. My rather unusual
grasp of the English language has been "improved" by editing.
Hopefully what is now written will be easier to understand!
The same with layout changes, not all immediately obvious but
the site now has a more pleasing and professional look. These
changes have not been without tears and tantrums, (sorry about
that!) and some adjustments have been resisted. If it don't work,
blame me! I cannot thank the Spectropop Team enough for their
patience and long hours spent getting it 'right'. I haven't been
the easiest of people to deal with over this and I'm glad we're
still friends! Thanks fellas.
Thanks also for the kind words on and off list about Jack
Nitzsche At Spectropop, also the gracious introduction by the
Team. I'll get round to writing to you all individually later.
I would welcome any additions, I know there is already too
much of my over-excited writings, but I would also love to see
over-excited writings and cooler observations by other folk.
I do hope Spectropoppers will help the site grow into the
complete 'one-stop Nitzsche shop'. I'd be grateful for any:
News and snippets of info, additional records for the
discography (happily, I don't think this will ever be complete).
Movie music and soundtrack LP reviews (my knowledge of Jack's
film work is pretty flimsy).
Record reviews, eg Jack's solo album on Reprise, Ten Best
of the 70s, or indeed any of his recordings.
Fans' reviews: Are you involved in another site, would somebody
from, say, a Rolling Stones site like to write about the
difference Jack made to their recordings?
Stories for 'The Jack I Knew': Do you, or someone you know,
have a personal story to tell?
Articles. A few additions are already planned for 'Writings',
but have I missed a good article, especially from his early
days?
Loads of stuff to be done. More links, more pics etc, etc
I'm sure the Guys and Dolls of Spectropop can help the site
become a sparkling jewel in Spectropop's crown.
Martin
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
PS - 'Record of the Week' is a pleasant little ditty on Dot
by Karen Verros called "Little Boy". Some of you might
already know the original recording by The Crystals!
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 10:14:20 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: M seeks trivia
james botticelli wrote:
> I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed
> a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that
> I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records.
> Do you?
> The Daily Flash The French Girl Uni
Peter Blecha's liner notes to Rhino's "Nuggets vol. 8: The
Northwest" say this about The Daily Flash:
"I Flash Daily" confessed the Day-glo bumper stickers that
served as Seattle's introduction to paisley pioneers, The
Daily Flash. Conceived by two key coffeehouse hoot-scene
folkies who lured a whizkid guitarist and the Frantics'
drummers, The Daily Flash proved to be a crucial band that
helped bridge the gap between Seattle's sizeable
folk/bluegrass crowd and the dominant teen R&B/NW Rock
scene. Released in the fall of '66, "Jack Of Diamonds"
[incl. on comp] was a choice B-side raveup that showcased
the Flash's unique Dylan-meets-the-Yardbirds approach. In
the spring of '66, before tripping off to San Francisco and
LA (where they appeared in "The Girl From UNCLE" singing the
decidedly bizarre, "Oi, Oi, Oi, My Bulgarian Baby" [alas,
not incl.], The Daily Flash recorded the "Violets Of Dawn"
[also incl.], a precious flower power period piece.
And that's all he wrote.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:15:50 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: M seeks trivia
Original Message From James Botticelli:
> I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed
> a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that
> I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records.
> Do you?
> The In Crowd Questions & Answers Viva
Great Record!! Actually, "The In Crowd" were none other than The
Eligibles, Ron Hicklin, Al Capps and Stan Farber. Why they didnt
keep the name The Eligibles is a mystery tho. This is one of my
favorite records, actually.
Mikey
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:38:31 -0400
From: Michael Gessner
Subject: Re: Toni Wine
I heard that "Groovy Kind Of Love" was originally recorded by
Toni Wine. Is this true? If so, does anyone have a copy?
Thanks,
Mike
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:39:02 -0400
From: james botticelli
Subject: Re: Mary Weiss-Stokes of the Shangri-Las
Tony Leong wrote:
> ... And that's called--sad!! On the other hand,
> I saw her at the screening for the Brill Building documentary,
> and she was posing for photos with everybody and was the life
> of the party!!!!! And that's called--glad!!!
was she tall?
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:43:16 -0400
From: james botticelli
Subject: Re: oldies radio on net?
Lindsay Martin wrote:
> Does anyone have a decent oldies station in their area that
> can also be heard live on the Net?
From noon until two PM EST daily there is the "Lost & Found"
show on WMBR, Cambridge at MIT. www.wmbr.mit.edu Depending
on who the DJ is it can be a great show. I recommend Wednesdays
with Larry Azrin who usually starts off the show with a set of
"Bubbling Under" dusties; songs that charted in just below the
Top 100. Sometimes the show gets too Grateful Deadish for my
taste (I HATE The Grateful Dead) but sometimes the jock (always
a different one daily) digs deeeep.
JB/founder of the show back in the day
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 11:49:09 -0700
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re: M seeks trivia
james botticelli wrote:
> I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed
> a little light on these long held 45's from my collection
Hi James,
I have the Group Called Us 45 too, though I always assumed
the plug side was the flip - "American Girl And Liverpool
Boy". It's a charming little track that must have been
released at the very onset of the British Invasion, before
U.S. producers started trying to duplicate the Beatle sound
- it sounds very N.Y. vocal group. The whole thing seems to
be the brainchild of producer/arranger/writer Jimmy Ienner
who spent the seventies producing the Raspberries, Three Dog
Night, Grand Funk and others. I'm sure I've got other sixties
credits on him but they're not coming to mind right now.
By the way, could you supply me with the writer and producer
credits for that United Fruit Co. 45?
Regards,
Guy Lawrence.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:11:59 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: JOHN R. GLUCK, JR.
Hello All,
Original message:
> Can anyone remember who John R. Gluck, who co-wrote "It's
> My Party" (a hit for Lesley Gore), is (or was)? Was it a
> pseudonym or a real existing composer?
John Gluck was a friend of the family of Brill Building
songwriting goddess Ellie Greenwich. He was the man who fixed
it for the young Ellie to audition for Jerry leiber & Mike
Stoller. And for that we should all be eternally grateful.
Before long she was supplying hit songs for the Exciters and
Jay & the Americans.
Without him Ellie might have gone on to become a schoolteacher.
Quiet at the back. And spit that gum out!
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:34:10 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: You Baby / Just for You Baby
Phil Chapman asked,
> [Martin, do you have the "Just For You Baby" 45?]
Yes.
I guess like most Spectropoppers, when I see a Philles cover
version I usually buy. Expect to be disappointed and you won't
be disappointed, works best for me!
Although, talking of "You Baby", I adore Madara – White's
production with Len Barry on vocals. Hell, it's even on my
jukebox. I'd recommend all Len's Decca material.
Back to The Shillings: "Just For You, Baby" wr B Mann & C Weil
(although someone as thoughtfully added Phil Spector's name in
ink to the credit), Produced Wes Farrell, Fontana 1543.
Nice jangly guitar, folk rock, harmony number. The B-side is
in a similar vein also.
Martin
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:20:32 -0000
From: Neil Hever
Subject: Re: M seeks trivia / The Shillings
james botticelli wrote:
> ... I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed
> a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that
> I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records.
> Do you?
> The Schillings Children And Flowers Three Rivers
Jim, The Shillings (proper spelling) are from the Lehigh Valley
area of PA near Allentown. Most of them were from the suburban
area of Emmaus. They had several releases on different labels
including Three Rivers "Children and flowers" which I own. Here
is a quote from Allentown's Morning Call November 12, 1966: "This
fantastic singing group has just released a new record entitled
"Lyin' And Tryin'"/"Children And flowers"...five major radio
stations in the nation, including one in California...are playing
the song as pick of the week. Starting this weekend, the group
will begin touring the East Coast, making personal appearances in
New York City with the well known disc jockey Murray the K...the
boys are working on an album and in a few months a picture and
story will appear in Sixteen magazine". Prior to this they
released "Barbara Ann" (Mercury) and "Just for you baby" (Fontana).
I don't believe they ever got to the album. I saw them perform
at a reunion with Jay and the Techniques and The Cyrkle in 1986.
If you want to hear the best PA bands you should also look for
The Nazz, King's Ransom, The Centurys and a host of one-45 wonders.
I have a lot of this stuff in my collection.
Cheers,
Neil
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:17:32 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
Hello All,
Original Message From Michael Gessner:
> I heard that "Groovy Kind Of Love" was originally recorded
> by Toni Wine. Is this true? If so, does anyone have a copy?
Well, it stands to reason that Toni Wine would have recorded
the original demo version of "Groovy Kind Of Love", considering
that she and Carole Bayer (Sager-Bacharach) wrote the song,
with just a little assistance from that famous Brill Building/
Screen Gems pop hack Clementi, famous for his bubblegum smash
"Sonata, Opus 36, No. 5". However, if such a demo exists, I
know no one who has ever heard it.
Most folk will tell you that the original version of "Groovy
Kind Of Love" was by Patti LaBelle & the Bluebelles, released
on Atlantic 2318 in 1966. I beg to differ. The first version of
the song was by Wand label duo Diane & Annita (sometimes billed
as Annita & Diane), whose rendition was issued only in France,
on the EP Vogue Int 18035 in 1965. Curiously, the lead vocals
on that Diane & Annita track, to my ears, sound as if they were
sung by neither of that pair, but by the song's co-author Carole
Bayer. Go figure.
In Dawn Eden's interview with Lesley Gore - which all of you who
possess the "You Don't Own Me" gal's Bear Family box set will
have read (not you, Phil :-) - Lesley reveals that her friend
Carole Bayer offered her "Groovy Kind Of Love" to record first.
Unfortunately, the big wigs at Mercury refused to let her wax
a song with the word "groovy" in its title.
I'm not one for British cover versions, generally, but, back in
the day, I thought the Mindbenders' recording of "Groovy Kind Of
Love" was the great dane's gonads. The interpretation of the song
by Petula Clark is also somewhat, erm, groovy.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 16:47:07 -0400
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Backcomb'n'Beat: Dream Babes 3
Phil Milstein wrote:
> The album is indeed a revelation: to the McKinleys,
> to Wirtz.....
Yes. I love the CD and Peanut's "Come Tomorrow" really is
the highlight for me. Shows that Mark wasn't all Spectored
out in that period as some fans assume. The Perpetual Langley
track "Two by Two" is great as well... just a wonderful comp.
Now if I could only find the first in the series. Glad to see
#3 getting some recognition though.
Still surprised that the two great Valerie Avon tracks produced
by Mark W. haven't been out. That will be corrected "unofficially"
on the Anthology (hint hint) which is coming out very soon.
Mark F.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 14:35:00 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Re: oldies radio on net?
Lindsay asks:
> Does anyone have a decent oldies station in their area that
> can also be heard live on the Net?
I live about 3 1/2 hours north, by car, from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Whenever I'm down there I tune my car stereo dial to 94.1 FM.
That's KODG-FM. They are also broadcasting on the net. I listen
to them a lot in my office at work on my computer. Just do a
search for the call letters and you should find the link to give
them a listen. I'm sure we'll here from others on the list about
thier favorites. I'll looking forward to hearing other suggestions
to give them a try. I would guess some of the larger metro areas
(larger than Salt Lake) probably have some great Oldies stations on
the net. And they would be even better if they used the quality of
FM but broadcast mono only material.
We do have two oldies stations here in southeast Idaho...but they
almost have a TOP 40 Oldies rotation. It's the same songs over and
over again. Not much variety. I do better burning my own discs from
my collection and listen that way.
Ron Weekes
www.garyusher.com
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 16:57:39 EDT
From: Gary Diamond
Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
Toni Wine and Tony Orlando recorded an album together for Chips
Moman in 1984, entitled "Orlando & Wine" on Triad Records and
did an updated duet retitled "A Special Kind of Love" along with
some additional duets and some solo versions of songs. Feel
free to contact me with any more info needed....
Gary Diamond
Denver CO
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:20:31 -0000
From: Doug
Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
Mick Patrick wrote:
> In Dawn Eden's interview with Lesley Gore - which all of you who
> possess the "You Don't Own Me" gal's Bear Family box set will have
> read [not you, Phil :-)] - Lesley reveals that her friend Carole
> Bayer offered her "Groovy Kind Of Love" to record first.
> Unfortunately, the big wigs at Mercury refused to let her wax a
> song with the word "groovy" in its title.
>
> I'm not one for British cover versions, generally, but, back in
> the day, I thought the Mindbenders' recording of "Groovy Kind Of
> Love" was the great dane's gonads. The interpretation of the song
> by Petula Clark is also somewhat, erm, groovy.
Another Mindbenders/Lesley Gore connection: they both covered
another Toni Wine/Carol Bayer song, "Off And Running".
I thought "Groovy" was great also, though I think their best is
either "Can't Live With You (Can't Live Without You) or "Ashes To
Ashes" (both of which also are Wine/Bayer songs).
The Mindbenders were a superb and underrated group.
Doug
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:27:36 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
Just like to add my voice of welcome to Martin's great "Specs" site.
Like Peter I found the time slipping by as I started on Saturday
morning to delve into what is on offer, and the Tammy Grimes track
is a lovely addition - Jack at his best.
Congratulations to Martin...this is without doubt a totally
excellent addition to Spectropop, and if other members haven't yet
partaken of this particular feast I urge them to without delay!!
Go to: http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
BTW 'twas I who had the "Just For You Baby" Shillings 45 - very
fine it is too!
Kingsley
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:58:53 -0000
From: Scott
Subject: HUCK FINNS
Okay you experts ... can someone tell me something about an
outfit called The Huck Finns. I bought one of their singles
as a yardsale "Two of a Kind" b/w "We'll Catch the Sun" Kapp
K-958. The "A" side is a nice slice of fuzz guitar garage rock.
I've looked through all of my reference materials, surfed the web,
including MusicStack and Gemm and can't find anything on 'em.
Scott
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:20:31 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: HUCK FINNS
Scott wrote:
> Okay you experts ... can someone tell me something about an
> outfit called The Huck Finns. I bought one of their singles
> as a yardsale "Two of a Kind" b/w "We'll Catch the Sun" Kapp
> K-958. The "A" side is a nice slice of fuzz guitar garage rock.
> I've looked through all of my reference materials, surfed the web,
> including MusicStack and Gemm and can't find anything on 'em.
Scott, a click on the Spectropop sidebar menu item,
'60s 70s Beat Psyche' http://www.spectropop.com/hpsyche1.html
takes you to Vernon Joynson's excellent online resource.
Phil
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From "Fuzz Acid & Flowers":
The Huck Finn
Personnel:
MICHAEL APPEL A
DONALD HENNY A
45:
1 Two Of A Kind / We'll Catch The Sun (Kapp K-958) Dec 1968
A NYC outfit who were previously known as the Balloon Farm,
some of whose members had previously been in Adam. "Two Of A
Kind" is a catchy fuzz-popper with a hint of bubblegum.
Compilation appearances include: Two Of A Kind on Turds On A
Bum Ride Vol. 3 (CD).
(Max Waller)
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and from a Google internet search......
*This tune was created by the same bunch who gave us the
immortal "A Question of Temperature" by the Balloon Farm
(on Nuggets Box etc.)That frantic atmosphere was replaced
by pulsing bubblegum beat on this song, which was a commercial
failure because it lacked of silliness found in almost all of
the bubblegum "Hits". Nonetheless enjoyable tune...listen to
this on "Turds On A Bum Ride Vol.3" CD comp.
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