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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Monkees / The Parade
From: Allen Roberds
2. Conrad "Guybo" Smith
From: Steve Harvey
3. Re: Alternate pop universe
From: James Botticelli
4. Re: Come Away Melinda
From: Eddy Smit
5. Re: Davy Jones
From:
6. Re: All American Show
From: James Botticelli
7. Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
From: Lindsay Martin
8. having a gecko
From: Lindsay
9. Re: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
From: Paul Underwood
10. Re: Davy Jones
From: Simon White
11. Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
From: Norman
12. RE: All American Show
From: Ken Silverwood
13. RE: Davy Jones speeded-up
From: Ken Silverwood
14. RE: The Drifter
From: Ken Silverwood
15. 100% Authentic Shaggs
From: James F. Cassidy
16. RE: The Drifter
From: Phil Chapman
17. RE: The Drifter
From: Ken Silverwood
18. Re: Davy Jones speeded-up
From: Billy G Spradlin
19. Re: Re: Alternate pop universe
From:
20. Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer"
From: David Ponak
21. Re: The Drifter
From: Simon White
22. Re: Davy Jones
From: Antonio Vizcarra
23. Re: Re: Davy Jones
From:
24. Re: 100% Authentic Shaggs
From: Simon White
25. Warren Cosford - Question
From: Tony Baylis
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:26:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Allen Roberds
Subject: Re: Monkees / The Parade
Antonio:
> Hi Allen, Nice to have you here, I hope you can share some Monkee
> memories with the rest of the group :-)
Hello Antonio,
That was as close as I ever got to the Monkees. Sorry. Later,
Murray and I along with Jerry Riopelle became The Parade.
"Sunshine Girl", "She Sleeps Alone", "Frog Frince" etc.
Smokey
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:37:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Conrad "Guybo" Smith
Does anybody know what became of Eddie Cochran's
bassist, Guybo Smith? Is he still alive and can he be
contacted anywhere? Thanks.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:20:49 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Alternate pop universe
Antonio Vizcarra wrote:
> I have always loved "This Bouquet", a pretty nice song.
> Although I think Davy Jones' voice on that recording was
> artificially speeded.
I was going to reply earlier about how I found the Davy Jones
LP at a thrifty run by squeaky yet spirited little old ladies
in Boston. The LP, of which I'd never heard, was not in its
jacket :-( Instead it was stuffed into an old 12" generic
white cover :-((( but after hearing "This Bouquet" I realized
I'd found a gem. So to the fella that claimed authorship,
Brav-Freakin'-O~! I love the tune..Pop bliss at its finesse.
Speeded up? Or the sound of the 14-year old?
JB
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:13:09 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: Come Away Melinda
Previously:
> So who did the original version of "Come away Melinda"? I've
> got a version by Barry StJohn & is there one by Tom Rush?
As far as I can tell, the original on that was done by Harry
Belafonte, on his album Streets I have walked (1963). I know
of cover versions by Judy Collins (1964) and Tim Rose (1967),
but not Tom Rush.
Eddy
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:05:32 +0000
From:
Subject: Re: Davy Jones
Lynn wrote:
> Speaking of Davy Jones before he was a Monkee, I have a copy
> of "Dream Girl"/"Take Me To Paradise". Were these done at
> the same time as "What Are We Going to Do?"?
And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me
anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w
"Dont Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962?
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:22:21 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: All American Show
Ian Chapman wrote:
> Backing each of
> the artists are the Vees, a tight four-piece which includes
> Bobby's two sons Jeff (drums) and Tommy (bass), nephew Matt
> (guitar), plus Jeff Olson on keyboards.
Proving once again that the fruit never falls too far from the tree
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:13:14 +0800
From: Lindsay Martin
Subject: Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
Javed Jafri wrote:
> Wasn't The Aussi VU an early incarnation of ACDC ?
According to Chris Spencer's "Who's Who Of Australian Rock",
the Aussie Velvet Undergound was a "pop rock band" working in
Newcastle (NewSouth Wales) and Sydney, 1969-1972.
Malcolm Young, later of AC/DC, was a member from '71.
They also had a vocalist called Brian Johnson. I'm no AC/DC
aficionado, but from his bios I've found on the Net this
doesn't seem to be AC/DC's Brian Johnson. He was from
Newcastle, true, but Newcastle in England, not NSW!
See also the entry on the Aussie V.U. at
http://www.borderlinebooks.com/australia/v1.html
Lindsay
in Oz
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:07:24 -0000
From: Lindsay
Subject: having a gecko
Phil Milstein wrote
> is "having a gecko" a good thing or bad?
It probably does sound to an outsider as if it could be
a little unsavoury.
But I took it to be some regional variant of "having a dekko"
or "having a geek", both of which are ancient Aussie
expressions for "taking a look".
(Do I get this month's prize for being way, way off topic?)
Lindsay
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:20:25 +0100
From: Paul Underwood
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
Martin Roberts wrote:
> ...P.J. Proby is featured on Record Of The Week with an
> obscure UK B side, "Sweet Summer Wine".
A good choice: I had thought of suggesting it myself but
assumed (wrongly) that it was too good to have missed out on
being reissued on CD. The two sides of that single show how
good Proby could be with a good producer.
Who is George Dempsey, though?
One more thing: am I the only one who can't download anything
listenable from the Nitzsche "record of the week"?
Regards,
Paul
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:42:29 -0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Davy Jones
Lynn wrote:
> Speaking of Davy Jones before he was a Monkee, I have a copy
> of "Dream Girl"/"Take Me To Paradise". Were these done at
> the same time as "What Are We Going to Do?"?
And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me
anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w
"Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962?
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:23:24 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
Phil M:
> When did the Aus. group start? And, is "having a gecko"
> a good thing or bad?
"Pardon me for lapsing into the vernacular..."."having a gecko"
basically means having a look.
I refer to sources to date the group. Apparently, they lasted
from 1967 to 1972.
As we are aware, a lot of what is written about obscure 60's
groups in modern anthologies is taken from more than secondary
resources. And, we have to take it with a pinch of salt. Much
of what is past down by word of mouth can get a little blurred
in the translation.
Chris Spencer et.al., compiled what is regarded as the ultimate
tool on Australian Rock in their Who's Who of Australian Rock
(I believe it has just gone into its fifth edition since being
first published in 1987). Although the compilers are made up
of a top team of researchers the material offered to them by
contributors can only be taken on its merit.
It is a good thing that this publication exists listing known
groups from the 50's through to more recent times. However,
because a group gets a mention in the book doesn't necessary
mean, in my view, that they were trailblazers or even any good.
I imagine if I was to be asked in 1967, as I am walking down the
main street of Newcastle, Australia, who the Velvet Underground
were, I would have said "they're that mob from America".
Norman
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:14:54 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: RE: All American Show
I thought about catching this show in Blackpool (my hometown)
last week, after seeing the posters in the theatre where we
had gone to see "Return of The Return To The Lost Planet".
But, and I don't mean to sound impolite, the printed pictures
were straight out of New Musical Express c1962. Now I know
they aren't going to look like that in the flesh, unless they
are all on a secret elixir, but the thought goes "hmmm who are
they trying to kid, what will they sound like?" And I know they
all still have to make a living, I don't think any of them are
rich beyond their wildest dreams, bbuuttt I treasure the 45s
these artistes made, they were my youth (I was 15 in 1962).
Not too long ago we had another package tour here, Solid Silver
Sixties Tour, I think, with Gerry Marsden & some Pacemakers,
Mike Penders' Searchers, Dave Berry, Dave Dee (minus the rest)
& Brian Poole (solo). Again, we had the 1964 pictures, which
I find off-putting. A couple of years ago I went to see the
Everly Bros. here, at least the photos used were from the 1984
reunion, my God they were good.
So [Ian], I'm glad you enjoyed the show, shame Brian Hyland
didn't mention Del Shannon for the production on "Gypsy Woman"
- it would have been nice as it started Brian's second coming.
I recall a story back in 1975 when "Sealed With A Kiss" was
re-released and became a hit again: the trouble they had
locating Brian, he was living in a hippy commune, or the like,
and needed a bit of a wash & brush up.
Must mention an essential read, 2STONED by Andrew Loog Oldham,
I enjoyed the first volume, but this is better. My sides ache
through laughing, we didn't know the half of what went on.
Back to the song "Come Away Melinda"...those were some scary
lyrics "it won't be how the way it was the day before the war"
wwhhhoooooo, well it spooked me.
Looking forward to plenty comebacks
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:41:20 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: RE: Davy Jones speeded-up
Antonio wrote:
> I have always loved "This Bouquet", a pretty nice song.
> Although I think Davy Jones' voice on that recording
> was artificially speeded.
Was he moonlighting from Russ Bagdasarian's brood? Who was
the lead singer in The Monkees? Dolenz alway's got the best
stuff; eg. Goin' Down, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Words;
Nesmith next, Listen To the Band, What Am I Doin'
Hangin' 'Round, etc; then Jones hhmm "Shades Of Grey" anyone?
Don't know about Tork.
Ken On The West Coast, the muse is on me!
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:41:17 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: RE: The Drifter
James Botticelli
> Clarification? Is this "The Drifter" as recorded by my
> heroes The Match?
Or as recorded by Ray Pollard on United Artists UP 1111
for UK market, very staple in Northern Soul circles?
Regards
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500
From: James F. Cassidy
Subject: 100% Authentic Shaggs
Simon White opined:
> ....in my opinion The Shaggs stuff is utter, utter rubbish
> AND evil and I have always doubted its authenticity. Is it
> really genuine? And are they not men in wigs on the cover?
The Shaggs are for real. Follow this link for an article from
The New Yorker:
http://www.shaggs.com/meet_the_shaggs.html
As you'll read, the Wiggins were - and are - real people.
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:41:22 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: RE: The Drifter
James Botticelli:
> Clarification? Is this "The Drifter" as recorded by my
> heroes The Match?
Ken Silverwood:
> Or as recorded by Ray Pollard on United Artists UP 1111
> for UK market, very staple in Northern Soul circles?
Are either of these the Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer song,
as recorded by Long John Baldry in 1966?
James, I couldn't find any reference to The Match recording.
Do you have the label details, thanx?
Phil
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:04:54 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: RE: The Drifter
Yes Phil, mine is, don't know about The Match.
Ken.
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:33:17 -0000
From: Billy G Spradlin
Subject: Re: Davy Jones speeded-up
> Who was
> the lead singer in The Monkees?
Davy got some fine songs like "Daydream Believer" and
"Look Out Here Comes Tommorrow" but to have him sing
"I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone" wouldn't have worked.
I think whoever picked the songs for the Monkees
(Kirshner, Producers or the band) gave 'em to the
right singer.
Along with the Turtles' Howard Kaylan, and The Raiders'
Mark Lindsey, Mickey was one the most underrated and best
lead singers or any USA Band of the 60's.
Billy
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:47:12 -0500
From:
Subject: Re: Re: Alternate pop universe
>
> From: James Botticelli
> Date: 2002/11/03 Sun PM 08:20:49 EST
> To:
> Subject: Spectropop - Re: Alternate pop universe
>
Speeded up? Or the sound of the 14-year old?
>>>>>Exactly. It wasnt speeded up, Davy is just singing in his 14 year old voice. Also, he was just to that "boy" voice in his stage shows so it must have been natural to him.
Mikey
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:12:23 -0500
From: David Ponak
Subject: Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer"
Please allow me to second Sheila's emotion on "A Lonely Summer"
by Mieko Hirota. (First encountered on the Nippon Columbia
Cutie Pop collection, and then thankfully revived by Yasuharu
Konishi on "Good Night Tokyo"). This track is a gem! The intro
is a blatant rip of "Cool Jerk," and then the verses are totally
"It's Not Unusual." This is a good thing, and I this kind of
pastiche provided the prototype for the cultural mash-ups of
later Japanese acts such as Pizzicato Five.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:34:49 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: The Drifter
Phil Chapman wrote:
> Are either of these the Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer song,
> [The Drifter] as recorded by Long John Baldry in 1966?
This is the same song although Long John's version is a pale,
pale parody of Ray's soulful and somewhat dramatic masterpiece,
genuinely one of my favourite recordings and one I have to be
careful with - if heard while I'm in the wrong mood, I then have
to lie down for a while. Long John's version is on a Goldmine CD,
"The Best Of British Soul" or somesuch.
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:31:25 -0000
From: Antonio Vizcarra
Subject: Re: Davy Jones
This was a black singer who released several singles in the
early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern.
I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the
book "Best of Cellars".
Simon White wrote:
> And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me
> anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w
> "Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962?
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500
From:
Subject: Re: Re: Davy Jones
>
> From:
> Date: 2002/11/04 Mon AM 04:05:32 EST
> To:
> Subject: Spectropop - Re: Davy Jones
>
And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me
> anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w> "Dont Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962?
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