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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Lonnie Donegan
From: Richard Williams
2. Party Pics
From: Spectropop
3. Re: Starlighters
From: Phil Milstein
4. Re: Mieko Hirota-'A Lonely Summer'
From: Kent
5. Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: zombie7123
6. Re: Simone Jackson/Lonnie Donegan
From: Ken Silverwood
7. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: Eddy Smit
8. Re: Davy Jones(es)
From: Ken Silverwood
9. Re: Re: Starlighters
From: Mikey
10. Bobby Taylor
From: Davie Gordon
11. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: Mikey
12. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: Patrick Rands
13. "Leader Of The Pack" Cast Album
From: Stuffed Animal
14. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: Antonio Vizcarra
15. Re: The Parade
From: Luis Suarez
16. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From: Davie Gordon
17. Re:Simone Jackson: US or UK?
From: Martin Roberts
18. Re: Party Pics - Slow Fizz in Manchester
From: Amber
19. Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper"
From: Simon White
20. Re: Davy Jones
From: Norman
21. Parade/Monkees/Shaggs And Such
From: Bob Rashkow
22. Northern Soul
From: Bob Rashkow
23. Re: The Parade
From: Allen Roberds
24. Re: Lead not lead - Deja Vu
From: Javed Jafri
25. Re: Bobby Taylor
From: Shawn Baldwin
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:40:58 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Re: Lonnie Donegan
I'd just like to underline everything Mick Patrick wrote about
Lonnie Donegan. I still have my Decca 78 of "Rock Island Line"
b/w "John Henry", bought as an 11-year-old. That was when the
light came on, and it was all Lonnie's fault. My dad helped me
build a tea-chest bass, my mother lent me her washboard, a
schoolfriend brought his guitar and suddenly we had a skiffle
group, too, just like all the other thousands of kids around
Britain.
Funnily enough, I was playing the EP with "Midnight Special"
on it the other day, and thinking how well it sounded. Johnny
Rivers must have thought so, too. If you listen to Colin Escott's
excellent four-volume Secret History of Rock and Roll, just
released on BMG, it's like looking at an exploded diagram of
skiffle.
All the recent chasing after roots music -- the canonisation
of Harry Smith and so on -- makes it even more obvious what a
crucial phenomenon the British skiffle groups really were.
In the same year as "Rock Island Line" was released, by the way,
the best skiffle group at my school was led by Viv Prince, later
of the Pretty Things. Many years later my son was christened John
Henry, for reasons I have never felt able to divulge to his mother.
Richard Williams
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:48:02 -0000
From: Spectropop
Subject: Party Pics
Dear Members,
'Twas a hot and steamy night in August.......
Remember the Spectropop Summer Party? Well, we finally got 'round
to collecting the photos from the chemist. Click on the URL below
to view some of the best. It'll almost be like you were there:
http://www.spectropop.com/party/index.htm
Don't forget, star of the party, Spectropop's very own Elisabeth
Kurtis, is throwing her own bash, Slow Fizz - A Night Of Girl Group
Heaven - in Manchester, next Saturday, Nov. 9th. All Spectropoppers
are invited to attend, free of charge. Some members will even be
manning the turntables. If London was too far to travel, why not
hop in the car "up north" and join us.
Elisabeth has put together a website containing everything you need
to know. Simply follow the link below:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiptoyou/slowfizz.htm
Or to receive more information, just reply to this message.
See you there?!
The Spectropop Team
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:56:56 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Starlighters
Steve Harvey wrote:
> The story of the Brigatti brothers is interesting in
> that history repeats itself. David was in the
> Starlighters. He sang lead on their singles, but no
> hits were forthcoming. So they put Joey Dee on
> "Peppermint Twist" and suddenly a hit! From then on
> it's Joey Dee and the Starlighters.
Also hanging around that Starlighters scene was Joe Pesci,
as a valet, or dancer, or some such. Laugh all you want to
at the image of Pesci dancing the Peppermint Twist, just
don't let him catch you doing so.
--Phil M.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:27:38 -0000 (GMT)
From: Kent
Subject: Re: Mieko Hirota-'A Lonely Summer'
> Please allow me to second Sheila's emotion on "A Lonely
> Summer" by Mieko Hirota. (First encountered on the Nippon
> Columbia Cutie Pop collection, and then thankfully revived
> by Yasuharu Konishi on "Good Night Tokyo"). This track is a gem!
David, Sheila,
Thanks for the tips !
-Kent
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:23:58 -0000
From: zombie7123
Subject: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
Please help me dispel this bizarre urban legend: A long-ago
friend of mine once claimed that the song "Day Tripper" was
actually written by members of a soul group called the
Vontastics, NOT John Lennon (+ Paul McCartney, legally
speaking). Yes, yes, I know that the Beatles' version was
released on Dec. 3, 1965, while the Vontastics' version hit
number 100 on the charts for one week on Sept. 3, 1966 -
exactly nine months later. Not to mention that the song is
credited to Lennon-McCartney on all (most?) known copies of
the Vontastics single (a copy of which I later acquired and
still own). He claimed the Vontastics' version was actually
recorded BEFORE the Beatles version, and that the original
release by the V's had their own names listed in the
songwriting credits...but that Lennon (un?)intentionally
ripped them off (possibly after hearing a pre-release version,
or whatever), and despite having priority they caved in to
serious arm-twisting pressure (and perhaps a cash settlement)
and agreed to grant credit to L+M, to destroy all copies of
their own credited version, and re-release it credited to L+M.
This would have seemed like a ridiculous story EXCEPT that,
as proof, he actually produced and showed me an obviously
authentic-seeming '60s 45 of the Vontastics doing "Day Tripper"
that indeed had different songwriting credits that made no
mention of Lennon and McCartney. He said it was practically
one-of-a-kind, perhaps the only one to be saved from the
original pressing. Needless to say, he told me this story over
20 years ago, and I've long since lost touch with this guy. The
part that's strange is that he was not the sort to ever make up
wild tales, and never before or since did he ever lie or
exaggerate to me (that I know of). He was also quite, quite
knowledgable about '60s soul. Plus this was in the days before
computers and laser printers might conceivably have allowed for
label fakery. It certainly didn't look fake to me, and I've seen
more than my fair share of old singles. I've tried to dismiss
the story, but it's been kicking around in the back of my head
ever since. So, at the risk of sounding like an idiot: could
there conceivably be any truth to this claim? Or is it just one
of those incomprehensible "Twilight Zone"-esque tales that will
never be explained?
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:15:54 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Simone Jackson/Lonnie Donegan
Ian:
> Someone must have had a lot of faith in that song "I Told
> You So" - it was recorded by at least two other UK artists,
> Tony Daines and Mark Peters, both in '64.
This must also be the one by Jimmy Jones MGM 1123, they all
seem to be around the same time, alas I only have Jimmy's
version.
So sad to hear of the passing of Lonnie Donegan. My grandmother
took me to see him and his trio in ohh I guess 1957 at the
Palace Theatre here in Blackpool, I think he was at No.1 with
"Cumberland Gap" at the time. I remember it being No.1 in the
playground along with Paul Anka "Diana" & Everly Bros "Wake Up
Little Susie". The show I can't recollect, but I still have a
few of his 45s in my collection. A few weeks later we were taken
to see Tommy Steele & his Steelemen at the same theatre. We were
only 10 years old so cynicism & analysis weren't part of our makeup,
but now we know who was the real deal. As a small aside "Does Your
Chewing Gum Etc" only charted in USA over 2 years later.
Best To All
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:55:45 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
> ....that the song "Day Tripper" was actually written by
> members of a soul group called the Vontastics,
> ...could there conceivably be any truth to this claim?
My guess would be that somebody simply put the wrong credits
on the label and that therefore all (but one ?) copies were
destroyed and replaced by copies with the proper L-McC credit.
After all, it's not because Jimmy Page put down his name under
a bunch of songs that he also actually wrote them...
Eddy
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:15:45 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Davy Jones(es)
Simon White:
> And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me
> anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w
> "Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962?
Antonio Vizcarra:
> This was a black singer who released several singles in the
> early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern.
> I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the
> book "Best of Cellars".
I have a copy of this Davy Jones singing "Model Girl" on a
Pye Int.7N 25072. He also turns up on Pye and the aformentioned
Piccadilly label. Be careful though, because the Monkee Davy Jones
is also on [UK] Pye and Colpix and Pye Int.!!! Oh this is too much.
Why didn't they call themselves Smith.
Regards
Ken from inside Davy Jones locker.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:43:53 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Re: Starlighters
Phil Milstein:
> Also hanging around that Starlighters scene was Joe Pesci,
> as a valet, or dancer, or some such. Laugh all you want to
> at the image of Pesci dancing the Peppermint Twist, just
> don't let him catch you doing so.
Actually, Joe Pesci was a pretty decent guitar player and
played 2nd guitar for The Starlighters.
He also made a solo LP on Brunswick, caled "Little Joe Pesci
Sure Can Sing"
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:14:18 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Bobby Taylor
Antonio Vizcarra:
> This was a black singer who released several singles in the
> early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern.
> I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the
> book "Best of Cellars".
Shawn Baldwin:
> Bobby Talyor may be who your talking about.
Shawn,
THE Bobby Taylor of Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers fame ???
Please tell me more - I'm intrigued
Davie Gordon
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:46:30 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
zombie7123, why would John and Paul lie? They didn't when it
came to every other cover they did. Doesnt make any sense.
More likely. the OTHER guys lied about writing the tune and
EMI threatened a lawsuit. I'd bet thats about how it happened.
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:46:18 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
From the All music guide:
" The next release "Day Tripper" (September 1966) is curious because
the songwriter credits say Bobby Newsome, though it's the same song
that John Lennon & Paul McCartney wrote. The jam became their biggest
record; St. Lawrence (Records) followed with "You Can Work It Out"
b/w "Never Let Our Love Grow Cold," February 1967; the A-side
strutted like "Day Tripper," the B-side groove was similar but the
lyrics more meaningful. "
I'm guessing it was just mis-labeled. That story sounds cool though!
:Patrick
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:59:56 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: "Leader Of The Pack" Cast Album
Listened to it again last night for the first time in many months.
I've written about Ellie Greenwich's musical and gone on record as
disapproving of certain arrangements and singers (Patrick Cassidy?
UGH! Annie Golden? Please!). That said, the songs and production
values blew me away, just like the first time I heard it. Darlene
Love puts Tina Turner to shame with her version of "River Deep -
Mountain High" . . . absolutely to SHAME, do ya hear me? And Ellie's
exuberance on "Da Doo Ron Ron" could even make Osama Bin Laden smile!
Why the hell hasn't this historic cast album ever been issued on CD?
You guys on the list who have reissue label connections . . . what's
a matter witcha? Jump on it, already!!! In my opinion, this
excellent recording of Barry-Greenwich classics is just as essential
as Phil Spector's Christmas album.
Stuffed Animal
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:08:42 -0000
From: Antonio Vizcarra
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
This sounds like the story of a "so called" unreleased Beatles
recording legend. That of Suzy Cope's song "You canīt say I never
told you" which was credited to Lennon and McCartney on a music
sheet in the sixties.
I bet the Vontastics single was released with the wrong credits on
the label (as Suzy Cope music sheet) and somebody told your friend
this fantastic story and he thought he was being told the truth.
Remember that when the Beatles released ob-la-di-ob-la-da in 1968 a
singer tried to sue Paul in the grounds that he had stolen the title
of the song from him. This was widely covered by the news. If the
Vontastics story was true, I think it would have been covered also
by the press back then.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:18:46 -0000
From: Luis Suarez
Subject: Re: The Parade
I have to second Kingsley's enthusiasm. The Parade were wonderful,
especially "Sunshine Girl"! Welcome Allen.
Luis Suarez
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:50:19 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper": an original?
Eddy Smit wrote:
> ....that the song "Day Tripper" was actually written by
> members of a soul group called the Vontastics, ...could there
> conceivably be any truth to this claim? My guess would be that
> somebody simply put the wrong credits on the label and that
> therefore all (but one ?) copies were destroyed and replaced
> by copies with the proper L-McC credit.
My guess is that it was a mistake made by a secretary when sending
the label copy details to the printers. Most of the Vontastics
material was written by group members - all it would have taken is
one slip up in communications for the secretary (or whoever) to
assume "Day Tripper" was another Bobby Newsome song, especially if
she/he hadn't heard the actual record.
Davie Gordon
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:57:11 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re:Simone Jackson: US or UK?
Sheila wrote:
> Brit girl connoisseurs: I am in the midst of uploading my girl group
> 45 collection into my computer, and while I'm on the letter J, I
> thought I'd seek out the answer to my long lost question --
> I have 45 by Simone Jackson- "I Told You So"/ "Where Am I Going."
> Label is American Music Makers out of Philadelphia, PA. Both sides
> were arranged by Mr. David Whitaker. The record has Britain written
> all over it, and I'm thinking that it must be British "Pop Pop
> Pop-Pie" cover girl, Simone Jackson. But then again, the vocal style/
> accents are pretty dissimilar. Hmmm.........So my question is, are
> there 2 Simone Jacksons, or is this Brit Girl Simone Jackson's
> obscure American release a la Samantha Jones' "I Deserve It" and The
> Orchids' "Oo-chang a lang"?
Interesting query from Sheila, I have this 45 and yes it does 'sound'
Brit and if Ian Chapman says it's 'our' Simone, then it is. The
record has long bemused me though. How and why did she get to record
and release this on such a small US label? And then there is the
record's credit. Sheila mentioned the "Arr. & Cond. Mr. David Whitaker"
credit but not "Ex. Prod. D. Anthony". However, surely the most bizarre
credit is "Produced by Jim Econmides". I guess this could just have
been a way for Jim to cut him self a share of the royalties, but 'odd'
nonetheless.
Martin
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:25:02 -0000
From: Amber
Subject: Re: Party Pics - Slow Fizz in Manchester
Original Message:
> 'Twas a hot and steamy night in August.......Remember the
> Spectropop Summer Party? Well, we finally got 'round to
> collecting the photos from the chemist. Click on the URL below
> to view some of the best. It'll almost be like you were there:
> http://www.spectropop.com/party/index.htm
Dear Elisabeth & Spectropop playmates,
Ee-oo, I was unable to attend the London shindig due to a recurrent
vile pimple. Oh well, I thought, there's always the next time. By
then my complexion would be perfect. I'll be able to show the
Actionettes how to do the Gravy. That's the Mashed Potato with a
little something extra. And then I read:
> Don't forget, star of the party, Spectropop's very own Elisabeth
> Kurtis, is throwing her own bash, Slow Fizz - A Night Of Girl Group
> Heaven - in Manchester, next Saturday, Nov. 9th. All Spectropoppers
> are invited to attend, free of charge. Some members will even be
> manning the turntables. If London was too far to travel, why not
> hop in the car "up north" and join us. Elisabeth has put together a
> website containing everything you need to know. Simply follow the
> link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiptoyou/slowfizz.htm
Gosh darn it, wouldn't you know, I can't make it over Manchester
either. I'm slated to visit my Mom in prison that day. I simply can't
let her down because she relies on me to smuggle in her HRT patches.
Poor baby, it's bad enough she has to wear her real hair in there!
Honey, I could spit!
Tell me please, what songs will you be performing on the night? "I'm
Hip To You" maybe? I'll dig out the originals from my treasure chest
of 7-inch singles and make believe..........I'm good at that.
A.V.T.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:01:56 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Vontastics' "Day Tripper"
zombie7123 wrote:
> Plus this was in the days before computers and laser printers
> might conceivably have allowed for label fakery. It certainly
> didn't look fake to me, and I've seen more than my fair share
> of old singles. I've tried to dismiss the story, but it's been
> kicking around in the back of my head ever since.
Zombie, I love your story! It's one of those things that will
either remain a mystery forever or someone will solve it at the
touch of a button.
The track and group are known on the Northern Soul Scene which in
turn is known for its bootlegs, where things were often issued
with different writers, producers and even artists! And they were
certainly doing it more than twenty years ago. 45s were often
re-issued legally especially for the Northern scene too.
I'm not saying this is the case, but it's not inconceivable that
the copy you saw was a bootleg done for the Northern scene that
found its way back to the U.S. [is that where you are?]. E-bay
is full of bootlegs being sold as originals - often unknowingly -
at the moment. I have two copies of "Day Tripper" on the St.
Lawrence label, different designs, both credited to Lennon and
McCartney. The J.J. Barnes version on Ric Tic is the best though.
I'm currently trying to piece together a connection between The
Rhythm Rascals' "Girl By My Side" on Sonic and Roulette [?] and
Chuck Corby's "I Need Your Love" on Fee Bee at the moment. It's the
same recording but credited to different artists on different labels.
It's all part of the same conundrum and part of the strange world
of Northern soul and also part of life's rich tapestry to boot.
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:20:43 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: Re: Davy Jones
There was a Davy Jones who recorded for Pye International,
and probably can be found on some of those Pye (Astor/Picaddilly)
compilations featuring early British pop.
He was one of the very few Black British singers on the scene
at the time.
Certainly not David Bowie.
But, to all us 60s buffs there will only be one Davy Jones.
Excuse me while I go off and play "A Theme for A New Love"
for the umpteenth time.
Norman
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:06:10 -0500
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Parade/Monkees/Shaggs And Such
Hi Smokey Roberds! Need I say it's terrific to have you in this
group! "Sunshine Girl" is such a groove (that almost sounds like
the tune doesn't it!)!!!!! Until I feasted my eyes on the 6Ts
Hot 100 charts I didn't even know that Monkee Davy's "What Are
We Going To Do?" was actually on the charts in '65, was it.
In response to the question posed somewhat earlier--that,
"This Bouquet" and "Dream Girl" (along with the 1st version of
Dylan's "It Ain't Me Babe" I ever heard) are all contained in
the Colpix "Davey Jones" LP. But when is the actual English
release date - could Davy really only have been FOURTEEN when
he recorded it? Thus these tracks go all the way back to '60
or '61?? Unbelievable. He must have recorded the album fresh
out of the OLIVER! cast! Unless he's younger than I'm giving
him credit for being....Was Piccadilly a UK label? Am I mixing
it up with Panorama, Bolo et al out of Seattle/Portland?.....
Didn't know "Come Away Melinda" was introduced by Harry Belafonte.
My guess as to who did it first would have been either Barry St.
John or Tim HARDIN.....
The Shaggs. I've heard one cut, "Who Are Parents", from a NPR
segment about the group emerging on CD. (Was this from as far
back as 1969? I thought more like early 7Ts) As one Spectropopper
has put it, there's something mystical underneath. The sound is
mesmerizing while at the same time strange and terrible. I don't
know if the Wiggin sisters even knew what they were getting into
but it came out as awe-inspiring lunacy.
Bobster
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:09:56 -0500
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Northern Soul
Just an additional note - my first introduction to Northern Soul
was through a vinyl comp that included:
Queen of Fools - Marie & the Deccors
Sliced Tomatoes - Just Brothers
...& a really cool tune called Compared to What? can't remember
artists' name. These are all truly GREAT recordings and my next
question is: Is Northern Soul strictly R&B that came out of Britain?
If so, groups such as Anita Humes and the Essex and the Capitols
(and artists such as Major Lance) don't qualify; arguably they'd
be considered simply U.S. groups who did "soul-pop" on major or
independent labels. Is there such a thing as Canadian Soul?
Needless to say, I'm constantly seeking these kinds of records
for my 45s collection.
Bobster
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:22:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Allen Roberds
Subject: Re: The Parade
Luis Suarez:
> I have to second Kingsley's enthusiasm. The Parade were wonderful,
> especially "Sunshine Girl"! Welcome Allen.
Thank you, all!
Smokey Roberds (Allen)
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:56:58 -0500
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Lead not lead - Deja Vu
Steve Harvey:
> The story of the Brigatti brothers is interesting in
> that history repeats itself. David was in the
> Starlighters. He sang lead on their singles, but no
> hits were forthcoming. So they put Joey Dee on
> "Peppermint Twist" and suddenly a hit! From then on
> it's Joey Dee and the Starlighters. Next, Eddie is
> singing lead on the Young Rascals singles and once
> again no hits. They put on Felix and "Groovin" is a
> hit. Eddie is put on the backburner as far as lead
> vocals on the singles.
The Rascals had already scored 4 chart hits before "Groovin"
including the top 10 "Good Lovin' which Felix sang the lead on..
Also the biggest hit the Rascals had with Eddie on lead
"How Can I Be Sure" came after "Groovin.
How about Gene Clark of the Byrds as another example of the
lead singer who was not always the lead singer ?
Javed
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:51:59 -0600
From: Shawn Baldwin
Subject: Re: Bobby Taylor
Antonio Vizcarra:
> This was a black singer who released several singles in the
> early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern.
> I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the
> book "Best of Cellars".
Shawn Baldwin:
> Bobby Talyor may be who your talking about.
Davie Gordon:
> THE Bobby Taylor of Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers fame ???
> Please tell me more - I'm intrigued
Well Bobby had the first integrated band on Motown (Cheech
of Cheech and Chong was a member ).He was discovered by
Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard of the Supremes. Dont' really
know much else about him.
Shawn
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