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There are 24 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Dave Clark the Drummer
From: Tony
2. Re: Kingsmen
From: Artie Wayne
3. Re: the Shirelles
From: Artie Wayne
4. Re: the Shirelles
From: David Feldman
5. Re: the Hallucinations
From: Marc
6. Re: Scepter Records
From: Phil Milstein
7. Re: the Hallucinations
From: James Botticelli
8. Re: The Parade
From: Allen Roberds
9. Re: the Hallucinations
From: James Botticelli
10. Re: the Hallucinations
From: Phil Milstein
11. Re: Scepter Records
From: Artie Wayne
12. Re: More Toni tunes?
From: Allan Rinde
13. Re: the Parade
From: Paulus247
14. Janie Grant and Diane Renay: a very special radio anniversary for me!
From: Ronnie Allen
15. Charly Records?
From: Doc Rock
16. Ripples 8 Girls
From: Mick Patrick
17. Re: Dave Clark the Drummer
From: Steve Harvey
18. Re: Gamma Goochee / Luther Dixon
From: Phil Milstein
19. Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
From: Eric Charge
20. 60s site
From: Eddy Smit
21. Re: Jeff Barry, the Archies, Gene Pitney, Neil Sedaka & Toni Wine
From: Allan Rinde
22. Re: Al Nevins / P-Nut Gallery
From: Bob Rashkow
23. Re: Charly Records?
From: Eddy Smit
24. The Liquid Room 11/17/2002
From: David Ponak
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:48:01 -0000
From: Tony
Subject: Re: Dave Clark the Drummer
Early 60's, specifically at the time when the DC5 recorded "I Walk
the Line" (I 'think' this was the title. It was an instrumental of a
well known song, and almost a carbon copy of a US release on London)
... anyway, at that time, pre their hit period, the DC5 were the
resident band at the Locarno, Basildon, Essex, and Dave Clark
definitely did all his own drumming, there being no curtains behind
them for hiding anybody.
Tony
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 06:59:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Kingsmen
Eddy......Guy.......Mike. Thanks for the info....I didn't know the
Nightriders covered " It's Only the Dog". If any body has a copy of
the song by the Kingsmen to play to musica ....I'd appreciate it.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 07:29:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: the Shirelles
Mick......."Met him on a Sunday '66 " was produced by Randy Irwin
[who worked for Henry Mancini's pub.co.], Tommy Kaye [who later
produced Loudon Wainwright] and myself. We had the idea of updating
the Shirelles classic using African drums and Eastern percussion.
This was the first time I worked with engineer Bill Symcysck [who
later produced the James Gang and the Eagles]. Stanley Greenberg,
Florences' son and producer of the original hit, loved the concept
and okayed the session. The Shirelles sounded great!!!! The track
sounded great!!!! ...but it did'nt have the magic of the original.
In 1965, the Vietnam war was heating up and Florence Greenberg wanted
to re-release "Soldier Boy". Part of my job at Scepter records was to
write new songs to existing background tracks that would be used as a
B-side for new records. Florence gave me several old Shirelles tracks
without vocals to choose from. I wrote "Mama, My Soldier Boy is Comin'
Home"....and Shirley Alston came in to do the lead vocal. She was real
easy to work with....but every once in a while she drift into a melody
I did'nt write and laugh. I guess she remembered the original song that
went over the track - "A Thing of the Past".
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:38:37 -0500
From: David Feldman
Subject: Re: the Shirelles
Artie said:
> I'm looking for two titles that I wrote; "Mama, my soldier boy is
> coming home" [Shirelles]. Has anyone seen them?
The song is on disc 3 of the Collectables' 3-CD set, The Shirelles For
Collectors Only. I assume that your time at Scepter didn't intersect
with Luther Dixon, who moved on to Capitol Records by the mid-1960s.
I'd love any stories that you or anyone else might be able to share
about Luther Dixon, who seems to me like a woefully neglected figure.
Best,
Dave
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:47:42 -0500
From: Marc
Subject: Re: the Hallucinations
No, the Hallucinations never recorded, and from what I've heard (from
the guys in the band and people who saw them) "soul band" is pretty
accurate. When/where did Wolf re-appear on the radio??
Marc
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:21:08 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Scepter Records
Artie Wayne wrote:
> Part of my job at Scepter records was to write new songs to existing
> background tracks that would be used as a B-side for new records.
A budgetary move? Or did she have some other purpose in mind?
How long did you work at Scepter for? I'm researching an article on a
record from c.'72, by The Dickens, which was pressed in promo copies but
withdrawn at the last moment. I haven't found anyone from the company
who could remember it to comment on, but I sure would like to.
Supposedly Florence nearly fired Stanley for having OK'd it for release!
--Phil M.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:34:17 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: the Hallucinations
Marc:
> When/where did Wolf re-appear on the radio??
WTBS-FM at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. I know; I
recorded myself a cart.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:34:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Allen Roberds
Subject: Re: The Parade
Dear Freeman, Thank you very much for your kind words about The Japanese
CD re-release of of the Parade Album. I'm glad it is one of your
favorites. Give a listen to 'Watching You' on The Small Circle of Friends
album. It's one of my favorites, that I wrote with Roger Nichols. You're
right it was a wonderful time. Thanks for bringing back some memories for
me.
My Best, Smokey Roberds
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:57:17 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: the Hallucinations
Marc:
> When/where did Wolf re-appear on the radio??
Me:
> WTBS-FM at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. I know;
> I recorded myself a cart.
I believe the appearance was in '67, maybe early '68.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:46:47 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: the Hallucinations
Marc wrote:
> When/where did Wolf re-appear on the radio??
He appears on WBCN every year on the anniversary of their start-up date,
and I believe does the occasional specialty gig there as well.
--Phil M.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:16:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Scepter Records
Phil Milstein:
> How long did you work at Scepter for? I'm researching an article on a
> record from c.'72, by The Dickens, which was pressed in promo copies but
> withdrawn at the last moment. I haven't found anyone from the company
> who could remember it to comment on, but I sure would like to.
Phil....I was at Scepter for about eight or nine months from mid-'65
- early '66....so I'm not familiar with the record you mentioned.
regards, Artie
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:36:16 -0000
From: Allan Rinde
Subject: Re: More Toni tunes?
Scott T wrote:
> Can you please ask Toni which of her songs has been most recorded
> (after "Groovy Kind of Love"). One last question: I read in a book
> on country music that Dottie West recorded at least one of Toni's
> songs, but I have never found a Wine composition on any of Dottie's
> albums. What was the song? (I have suspected this was the writer's
> error and perhaps he confused Dottie and Dodie West--who recorded
> "Living in Limbo" back in '72.) Please clear this up me.
Hey Scott. As usual, folks here know as much, if not more, than we do.
After "Groovy", Toni's most cut tune is "Candida", with MOR versions
by Andy Williams, Ray Coniff, Lawrence Welk & James Last, a reggae
version by Owen Grey, and various foreign covers.
I'm aware of most of the songs you asked about, but have nothing to
show any of them were ever recorded. "Tomorrow Morning" slipped
totally under our radar, so thanks for bring this forgotten tune to
our attention.
Toni not only recorded with Dottie West, they wrote a song together.
Just don't ask what it was called. That'll take some thinking. Toni
also thinks that Dottie recorded "Pickin' Berries", a song (the only,
I think) that Toni wrote with her ex, Chips Moman. (Chips also cut
this song on Petula Clark, and it also escaped release, but turned up
several years back on "Blue Lady: The Nashville Sessions" on Varese
Sarabande, already out of print.) It's quite possible that neither of
these songs ever saw commercial release. I asked Toni about the Dodie
West tune. Although the title sounded familiar, Toni can't recall it
at the moment. We are going thru a lot of old things, so maybe
something will pop up to jog her memory. According to the 'covers'
discography from Philately, posted here lately, this Toni and Carole
Bayer tune only saw UK release.
Allan
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:26:52 EST
From: Paulus247
Subject: Re: the Parade
How can I get a copy of The Parade CD? I've looked on the net but can't
find it anywhere. I've got a couple of tracks on comps, 'Sunshine Girl'
& the fantastic 'I can see love'. I'd love to hear more - anyone help?
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:42:46 EST
From: Ronnie Allen
Subject: Janie Grant and Diane Renay: a very special radio anniversary for me!
Today (Friday, December 6th) is the first anniversary of the interview
show I did with 60s recording artists Janie Grant and Diane Renay. The
show originated on AM radio station WBCB (Levittown, PA) and was also
carried over the Internet.
Over the past year so many of you Spectropop members have sent me
private e-mails about the show and I've also received many e-mails from
many others as well. In fact yesterday I received the latest e-mail,
from someone who had never written me before. This came a mere 364 days
after the airing of that show! Who would have thought!!!
I want to thank Janie Grant and Diane Renay (and also surprise guest
Gerry Granahan) for agreeing to do the show and for making that December
night last year so special and indeed magical for me. These are three
most wonderful recording artists and most wonderful individuals.
And I also owe a special debt of gratitude to the late Jamie LePage and
the other Spectropop administrators for going out of their way to help
me in the publicizing of the show. And finally I'd like to express my
appreciation to all of you here who have commented on the show during
the past year, both publicly and privately. I am presently not
affiliated with any radio station -- conventional or Internet -- but
hopefully, some time after the new year, that will change. But even if
it doesn't ..... Wow, what great memories I have!!!
Happy holidays to all of you!!!!!
Ronnie Allen
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 19:29:47 -0500
From: Doc Rock
Subject: Charly Records?
Can anyone give the web address for Charly? Thanks.
Doc
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:51:29 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Ripples 8 Girls
The Spectropop Team:
> How many music fans know there are eight full CDs-
> worth of British acts doing American-style melodic pop?
> England, last I heard, has never been known as the land
> of sun, surf and sand! Get this CD...then get the rest.
> The CD in question? "Butterfly: Ripples, Volume 8".
> Click below to read Mark Frumento's full review:
> http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#Ripples8
Attention Brit Girl addicts. The "Ripples" series is also
turning out to be a meeting place for UK girl singers not
included in Sequel's "Here Come The Girls" CD series. For
those interested, the compilation mentioned above features
the following little treasures:
Two Of Each "Trinity Street" - penned by the British Goffin
& King, Tony Hatch & Jackie Trent. This group's lead singer
was Mally "You Can Be Wrong About Boys" Page, Jackie's
younger sister. Imagine the Seekers, but more teenage.
Linsey Moore "Linsey's Song" - gentle, folky self-written
number from 1967.
Val McKenna "Don't Hesitate" - another gal who wrote her own
songs. Jangly and gritty, like a British Jackie DeShannon.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:39:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Dave Clark the Drummer
But how was Dave's drumming in the early days? Was it like it turned
out on the hit records or just the thumping beat that the DC5 were
known for? There's a difference between a club gig and a hit act on
tour or in the studio. Lots of people end up using someone else on
the record.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:37:53 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Gamma Goochee / Luther Dixon
David Feldman wrote:
> I'd love any stories that you or anyone else might be able to share
> about Luther Dixon, who seems to me like a woefully neglected figure.
I second that emotion.
Now playing at musica is Pt. 3 of the Gamma Goochee trilogy, this one an
earlier ('63?) piece entitled "Smog," recorded under the name Johnny
Donn. Unclean air not being a theme a Renaissance poet (i.e. John Donne)
could have quite related to, the similarity of the name Mangiagli (aka
G.G.) chose for this release may be read as either ironic or coincidental.
Enjoy,
--Phil M.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 06:21:34 -0000
From: Eric Charge
Subject: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
It's that time of year, when I whip out the old Christmas favourites
and start jingling...and what do I find in my collection? Only the
best Christmas song Motown ever produced - Little Christmas Tree by
none other than Michael Jackson (circa 1973). And perhaps it's my
favourite Christmas song of all time. And who wrote this masterpiece?
None other than George Clinton and a certain A WAYNE! There has to be
a good story around this yuletide tune........I've been a good boy
all year so please, Mr. Wayne, I'm all tucked up and warm and ready
for your Christmas story!
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:28:33 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: 60s site
Here's a link you might enjoy. Don't get fooled by the Beatles 1963
entry...it's really Helen Shapiro!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/60sindex.shtml
Eddy
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:37:33 -0000
From: Allan Rinde
Subject: Re: Jeff Barry, the Archies, Gene Pitney, Neil Sedaka & Toni Wine
Mick Patrick:
> For the record, "It Hurts To Be In Love" was written by Howard
> Greenfield and Helen Miller, who are also the accredited joint
> producers and arrangers on the original single. I do not own a
> stereo version of this track, but I can confirm that there is no
> trace of Neil Sedaka's original demo vocal on mono pressings.
> Toni's backing vocals ("to be in lurve") are dee-lish. Maybe
> Allan could get her side of the story for us.
Not much to add here. This is certainly one of Toni's most recognized
background contributions and one of her favorites. As she recalls, she
went into the studio to do it with Helen Miller. She's almost positive
that Howie Greenfield wasn't there. Gene came by and hung out. The
only thing of note is it's probably one of the few times during that
era that Toni didn't have any other background singers with her.
Stuffed Animal wrote:
> Scanning the BMI database, I came a across a song, "If We Both Hold
> On", written by Toni Wine and Jeff Barry. This appears to be the
> only song they ever wrote together. Does Ms. Wine remember anything
> about the song . . . when it was written, who it was written for,
> and if it was recorded? Also, what is the real story behind why she
> quit singing on Archies records in 1969?
Like Fox Mulder, folks are searching for the truth. As far as the Jeff
Barry song, they just felt they should write a song together, so they
did. No particular purpose that she can recall. Toni has no
recollection of it being cut, but that doesn't mean it wasn't. As far
as the Archies, suffice it to say that, unlike Ron Dante, Toni was not
paid royalties on the records, so there was no particular reason for
her to stick with it. There were certainly a lot more exciting
sessions to be doing.
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 20:09:10 -0500
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Al Nevins / P-Nut Gallery
Mikey really set me straight on Sedaka (as writer and producer that is).
I should have remembered that Aldon involved Don Kirshner AND that
Kirshner was head of Screen Gems-Columbia Music for a number of years.
Guess if you weren't there...actually I'd like to pose a question about
Al Nevins, the "other 1/2" of Aldon. We know Kirshner went on to become
a living legend with The Archies and TV's "Rock Concert"; what I'm
wondering is did Nevins too go on as a producer? (& what labels/artists
if any were he involved with)?
FREAKING OUT TOTALLY about "Pow-Wow"! ! ! What makes this info even
MORE ironic, though, is that a studio group calling themselves the
P-Nut Gallery had a mild hit in summer '71 called Do You Know What Time
It Is? to coincide with a renewed interest in the Howdy Doody shows (I
think if I'm not mistaken that an attempt to revive it was in the works
but didn't get very far) and the clincher is...they were on BUDDAH!!!
Same producer? Can't recall if Kasenetz-Katz or Levine-Resnick had
anything to do with this one.
Bobster
(Admin Note: Al Nevins died c.1963)
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 10:50:47 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: Charly Records?
Doc Rock:
> Can anyone give the web address for Charly? Thanks.
I think the following may explain a thing or two.
http://bomplist.xnet2.com/9608/msg00078.html
Eddy
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:30:14 -0500
From: David Ponak
Subject: The Liquid Room 11/17/2002
The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs
every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org.
The Liquid Room 12/01/03
1.The Assocation/Come On In
Birthday (WB)
2.The Apparat Organ Quartet/Romantika
s/t
3.Sunlight/David
Creation of Sunlight
4. Treva Whateva/Singalong
Tim Love Lee It's all Good comp. (Keep Diggin)
5. Cody Chesnutt/Michelle
The Headphone Masterpiece (Ready Set Go)
6. Boss Rio/Up, Up and Away
Bossa Rio (Polydor-Japan)
7. Lee Hazlewood/Hands
The Complete MGM Recordings (Ace-UK)
8.The Polyphonic Spree/Hanging Around & Soldier Girl
Live EP (679-UK)
10.Add N To (X)/Total All Out Water
Loud Like Nature (Mute)
11.Gilberto Gil/Sai De Sereno
Expresso 2222 (Mercury-Brazil)
12.Harry Breuer/Space Express
The Happy Moog (Pickwick)
13.Smokey & Miho/Canto De Caboclo Pedra Preta
Tempo De Amor-Songs By Baden Powell (Afro Sambas)
14.Eel/Reality Bites
People People (Fille Unique-Japan)
15.The Avante Garde/Naturally Stoned
16.The Aluminum Group/Speed Dial
Happyness (Wishing Tree)
17.The Velvet Crush/Staying Found
The Soft Sounds (Action Musik)
18.Rita Chao/Proud Mary
Rita (EMI-Hong Kong)
20.DJ Shadow/Un Autre Introduction
The Private Press (MCA)
21.Brian Eno/Backwater
Before And After Science (EG)
22.Blossom Dearie/I Like London In The Rain
Whisper For You (Polydor-Japan)
23.Jerry Goldsmith/Our Man Flint & Your Zowie Face
In Like Flint/Our Man Flint (soundtrack) (Varese
Sarbande)
24.The Orchids/I Will Call You (45 King Remix)
Major Force Classics (File-Japan)
25.Bikeride/Catch The Spark
Morning Macumba (Hidden Agenda)
26.Twice As Much/You're So Good For Me
The Immediate Anthology (Sequel-UK)
27.Pastel Vespa/L'Anarchie Dans L'U.K.
L'Anarchie (Siesta-Spain)
28.Neil Hefti/Man Chases Man
The Odd Couple (soundtrack) (Dot)
29.John Cunningham/Way To Go
Happy-go-unlucky (Parasol)
30.France Gall/Jazz A Gogo
Poupee De Son (Polydor-France)
31.Spookey Pie/Girls Will Save The World
Audios (Boo)
32.Steve & Eydie/A Man And A Woman
A Man And A Woman (RCA)
33.Lovage/Anger Management (Instr.)
Music To Make Love To Your Old Lady By-Instrumental
Version (75 Ark)
34.Café Tacuba/Olon A Gar
Valle Callampa (MCA)
35.Dionne Warwick/He's Moving On
The Love Machine (soundtrack) (Scepter)
36.Tipsy/Wig Out (Seksu Roba Remix)
Tipsy Remix Party (Asphodel)
38.Jack Jones/Yesterday When I Was Young
Sing Me A Love Song, Charlie (RCA)
39.The Jigsaw Seen/Tattoo
Songs Mama Used To Sing (Vibro-Phonic)
40.Billy Stewart/Sitting In The Park
One More Time (Chess)
41.The Blades Of Grass/I Love You Alice B. Toklas
Are Not For Smoking (Rev-Ola-UK)
42.Spookey Ruben/N. Kinski
Bed (Hi-Hat)
43.Leggo Beast/Taxed N Tested
Sines And Cymbals (Pork-UK)
44.Enoch Light's Action/Over Under Sideways Down
It's Happening...So Let's Dance! (Project 3)
45.Third Dimension/Lonely Road
Protect Us From What We Want (Hidden Agenda)
46.The Walker Brothers/The Electrician
Night Flights (Epic-UK)
47.Rupert Holmes/Robin's World
She Lets Her Hair Down (Exelsior)
48.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On
Someday Man (Reprise)
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