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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Quote the Beatles
From: Eddy Smit
2. Re: Quote the Beatles
From: Norman
3. Re: Pow Wow - Howdy Doody / Ronnie Burns
From: Phil Milstein
4. Re: Spoonful covers
From: Michael Robson
5. Re: Toni Wine / bubblegum music
From: Artie Wayne
6. Re: Ecology songs
From: Roger Smith
7. Re: Lyrics made up of song titles / Davie Allan
From: Bryan
8. Re: Quote the Beatles
From: Gaylord Fields
9. Re: The Impacts
From: Mikey
10. Re: Quote the Beatles
From: Luis Suarez
11. Re: Spoonful covers
From: Mikey
12. Toni Wine's new website
From: Allan Rinde
13. Re: Quote the ... everyone else
From: Phil Milstein
14. The Reveres
From: Jeff Lemlich
15. Bro. Julius
From: Phil Milstein
16. Re: Brother Julius
From: Mick Patrick
17. Re: Bro. Julius
From: Mikey
18. 1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero
From: Alan Gordon
19. Re: Spoonful covers
From: Doug
20. Wenzels Music Town /Downey wrote Wipeout?
From: Leonardo Flores
21. Re: Quote the ... everyone else
From: Billy G. Spradlin
22. Re: Hidden titles
From: Bob Rashkow
23. Collectables Blowout
From: Steve Harvey
24. Re: Quote the Beatles / Spoonful covers / Knickerbockers
From: Bill Craig
25. Re: Wenzels Music Town
From: Phil Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:01:35 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles
> And what was that other song when he said '....the walrus was Paul'?
That was Glass Onion from the White Album, which also has I told you
'bout Strawberry Fields, the place where nothing is real (a reference to
the Yellow Submarine movie) and further on...Lady Madonna trying to make
ends meet...I told you about the fool on the hill...Fixing a hole in the
ocean. Allow me to correct myself, so you don't have to...of course, the
"nothing is real" from Glass Onion was quoted for the Yellow Submarine
movie and not the other way round.
Eddy
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:56:20 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles
Quote the Beatles: Barclay James Harvest in 1975 with "Titles" would
be a good contender. Single released from the Time Honoured Ghosts LP.
Norman
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:31:54 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Pow Wow - Howdy Doody / Ronnie Burns
Jeffrey Glenn wrote:
> I noticed that the reversed "Pow Wow" by 1910 Fruitgum Co. had been
> played to musica, so I've done the same with "Bring Back Howdy Doody"
> by Flying Giraffe (Bell B-801, 1969). Both obviously the Howdy Doody
> theme, but not using the same track as was postulated. The Flying
> Giraffe track is pre bubblegum, while the 1910 Fruitgum Co. is
> bubblegarage (and pretty loose, to say the least - I love it! :-) ).
Although the music is the same as the Howdy Doody theme, the lyrics, a
nostalgic profession of love for the show, seem to be wholly new. Now
that we've established that these are two versions of the same song,
let's see if we can get the writing credits to match up. The Fruitgum's
"Pow-Wow" is credited to Kasenetz-Katz-Gutkowski. For the record it is
Buddah BDA 91.
Norman wrote:
> Ronnie Burns had a Top 10 hit with the song in 1967.
That wasn't the Ronnie Burns who was son of George Burns & Gracie Allen,
was it? I had thought him to be the last child-of-showbiz-royalty of
that generation who DIDN'T aspire to pop stardom of his own. Maybe there
were none.
--Phil M.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:10:38 -0000
From: Michael Robson
Subject: Re: Spoonful covers
Spoonful covers: let's bring this back to girls. How about "Darling Be
Home Soon" by Samantha Jones (Penny Farthing B-Side/LP track, 1970)
and Billie Davis (Decca B-Side, 1967), "I Didn't Want To Have To Do It"
by Julie Driscoll (Parlophone A-Side, 1966) and Madeline Bell (Philips
LP track, 1967) and "Daydream" by Sammi Brown (Fontana A-Side, 1968)
and Anita Harris (CBS LP track, 1969)...
Michael Clunkie
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:19:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Toni Wine / bubblegum music
A big public congratulations to Toni Wine for her acheivement award....
You truly are the "Queen of Bubblegum Music"!!!
When my partner Kelli Ross and I ran Joey Levine and Artie Resnicks'
publishing company in the sixties who would've dreamed that the
"Genre" would ever be legitimized. Fortunately, "Bubblegum Music"-
loving kids grew up to be "Bubblegum Music"-loving critics !!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:43:33 -0500
From: Roger Smith
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution
> from the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
The Most Beautiful World in the World - Harry Nilsson (Son of
Schmilsson, 1972).
Pretty Soon There'll Be Nothing Left for Everybody - Harry Nilsson
(Sandman, 1976).
-- Roger
http://www.harrynilsson.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:42:52 -0800
From: Bryan
Subject: Re: Lyrics made up of song titles / Davie Allan
Regarding "Titles" by Barclay James Harvest and "lyrics almost
entirely made up of Beatles titles," my friend Rick's band Cloud
Eleven did the very same thing with Left Banke titles on with his
song "Look of Sky." The song appeared on his 'Cloud Eleven' CD on
Del-Fi's short lived DF2K imprint. The song's title, in fact, was
inspired by Michael Brown's real last name, Lookofsky, and the
lyrics were cobbled together from titles and snatches of Left Banke
songs. (Rick also covers the Lovin' Spoonful's "Didn't Wanna Have
To Do It" on the album).
Regarding a Davie Allan cover song, James Boticelli wrote:
> They do an absolutely murderous version of Henry Mancini's
> "Experiment In Terror" on the Del-Fi Mancini Tribute compilation
> of 6 or 7 years' back.
Is "murderous" good or bad? :-)
Bryan
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:33:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Gaylord Fields
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles
Patrick Rands wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a list
> together of songs that quote a part of a Beatles song.
Another ambitious example of a song along the lines of Nilsson's "You
Can't Do That" that strings together Beatles song titles to form a
narrative is whimsical late-70s Dutch popsters Gruppo Sportivo's "One
Way Love (From Me to You)" Amid the sundry Fabs titles, including
"Yesterday", "I Should Have Known Better" and the one in the title's
parenthetical, they cheekily throw in the Stones' "As Tears Go By" for
good measure. And to top it off, the "oooo-la-la-la" vocals from "You
Won't See Me" figure prominently.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:34:20 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: The Impacts
Original Message from Steve Harvey:
> I always thought that the Impacts did the original Wipe Out, Merrill
> Fankhauser wrote it. There was a surf music compilation being done
> by various bands. The Surfaris's manager had them recording on it,
> heard the Impacts' tune and had his guys cover it. The rest is history.
Nope!!! The Impacts' "Wipe Out" is a totally different surf instrumental.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:10:48 -0000
From: Luis Suarez
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles
Mark Frumento wrote:
> Probably my favorite is Billy Nicholls' "White Lightning" (Phil
> Chapman may be familiar with this record?) which also quotes "Lucy
> in the Sky With Diamonds."
That's a wonderful song Mark. A few others:
The previously mentioned We All Together have a song called "Hey
Revolution" which briefly plays a bit of the Beatles "Revolution".
I have an album by the Japanese band Carol from the early 70's. It's
called "Louisi-anna". The second side is all covers of the sort the
Beatles played in Hamburg and the Cavern club (learned phonetically,
BTW) Side 1 is all original tunes - all in Japanese except there are
a few lines in each song that were taken from Beatles lyrics!
Girl at the Window by the Idle Race is a beautiful song and when this
thread came up I immediately thought of this track. The line the way
I heard it:
John and Paul and Ringo and George
Were playing "Love Me Do"
But various lyric sites on the net say this is how it goes:
John and Paul and Ringo and George
Were playing lovely tunes
Either way it's a Beatles reference.
Luis
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:46:56 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Spoonful covers
Don't forget Gary Lewis:
Daydream
You Didn't Have To Be So Nice
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:49:33 -0000
From: Allan Rinde
Subject: Toni Wine's new website
Sorry I've fallen behind in answering messages, but I've been busy
getting a website for Toni going. It's not finished (are they ever?)
but it's ready for public viewing. Come visit at:
http://www.geocities.com/toniwine
I'm off to The Big Apple for a few days, and Toni's off on her own
for a week, so we'll get back to filling in the blanks right after
Xmas. Y'all have a happy holiday.
Allan Rinde
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:51:47 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Quote the ... everyone else
Diverting sidelong from the Beatles' song quotes thread, I would
like to kick off the listing of songs whose lyrics cite unrelated
other song titles. Two that come immediately to mind:
Arthur Conley: Sweet Soul Music
Dee Dee Sharpe: Mashed Potato Time
I'm sure there are many more. I always enjoy hearing this sort of
lyric, as they seem to be sincere professions of respect for the
songs they name-check.
Phil M.
P.S. Gaylord, how long have you been on Spectropop?
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:24:57 -0500
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: The Reveres
Does anyone know who the Reveres were? They did a single for Jubilee
-- one side written by Jeff Barry & Artie Resnick ("The Show Must Go
On"), with the other side a peppy, upbeat version of "Beyond The Sea"
(given kind of a "Jan & Dean meets the Jamies" kind of treatment).
What's the story with these guys?
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:44:49 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Bro. Julius
Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius", flip of
"Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps?
--Phil M.
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:15:06 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Brother Julius
Phil Milstein:
> Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius", flip
> of "Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps?
There's a photo of Brother Julius in the book contained in the
ABKCO "Back To Mono" box set. He was the "shoeshine boy" at Gold
Star Studios car park. Actually, at the time of the Crystals'
"Then He Kissed Me", he was a middle aged man.
MICK PATZSCHE
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:04:03 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Bro. Julius
Phil Milstein:
> Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius",
> flip of "Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps?
I know the answer to this one!!!
"Brother Julius" was the elderly gentleman who was the janitor at
Gold Star. All the musicians, and particularly Hal Blaine, loved
him and gave him money.
Mikey
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:02:03 -0800
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: 1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero
Country Paul sez:
>> "1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero", on Elf Records, was a
>> sorta wimpy ode to the suburban dad who's a hero to his kids.
>> There was some phenomenal Nashville pop - just not this song
>> to my ears!
Dan:
> You call it wimpy--I call it warm.
>I like to think of myself as that guy.
Dan, I loved this tune when I was knee high to a Telecaster.
Does anyone know where it might be found?
senti-mentally yours,
albabe
Sorry I'm so far behind. I spent a little over a week in Arizona
(Kick off your rainbow shades) and I'm still barely making a dent
in my emails.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:25:59 -0000
From: Doug
Subject: Re: Spoonful covers
Did anybody mention the Rovin' Kind - Didn't Want To Have To Do It?
Doug
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:35:56 -0000
From: Leonardo Flores
Subject: Wenzels Music Town /Downey wrote Wipeout?
Monophonius wrote:
> I checked the BMI database for "Wipeout" and "Pipeline" and
> there is no credit given Morton Downey Jr. as writer.>
Maybe some one got confused concerning the relationship between
The Surfaris, Dot records and Downey Records, owned by the Wenzels
in Downey, California. Details of these connections are in the ACE
Let's Go Tripping DOT Comp CD that came out a few years ago.
The Wenzels closed down their shop after 30+ years of business about
two years ago. Back in the day The shop doubled as a Recording
studio/Record label that recorded many fine local acts such as the
Rumblers and the Chantays. My father used to ride his bike down from
Whittier to Wenzels Music Town back in the 50s/60s and to this day
was his favorite record shop ever. I'll never forget the first time
I ever went to the shop.
They always had a good vibe (which is saying a lot compared to the
other crummy record shops in LA/Orange County). About a month before
the shop closed I asked fot their autograph, they said in all the
years Jack, and His father Bill, owned the shop I was the first to
ever ask for his and his wife's autograph. Wenzels Music Town was a
peice of local history as well as an example of the 50s/60s my
father grew up in. I hope they are having a wonderful retirement.
On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga the
city I live in at the moment.
Cheers,
Leonardo
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:08:47 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Quote the ... everyone else
One of my favorites is Carol Shaw's "Jimmy Boy" (Atco) where she
mentions "Walk Like A Man" in the chorus.
Billy
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:39:07 -0500
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Hidden titles
There are so many songs that throw out current titles; for starters,
Sam Cooke's "Having A Party" ("Play that one called 'I Know'") and
one of my own recent purchases from Big Beverly Records, The 3 Friends'
"Dedicated To The Songs I Love" (1961) on I think Imperial ("Little
Miss Stuck-up and Sleepy-eyed John....invested in 'U.S. Bonds'" or
something like that!) Early 60s was notorious for this kind of thing as
well as tons and tons of "break-ins" in which actual snippets of hits
were heard, usually for comic effect.
Bobster
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:44:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Collectables Blowout
Hey -- for anyone with a little extra time, and extra cash, this
is thoroughly worthwhile. Tons of great re-issued roots music
from various genres...all for a steel of a deal! Collectables is
lettingthis stuff go for dirt cheap, 02 .98 to about 7 bucks. Most
of the discs only have half the tracks we're used to on re-releases
... but for a quarter the cost of the average discs they're steel
more than worth the cost! Plus you can listen to a sample of every
song from every one of the CD's!! Check it out:
https://www.oldies.com/product/clearance.cfm
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:17:50 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles / Spoonful covers / Knickerbockers
There was a song by the Brit band City Boy that quoted "She Loves
You",the title was something like "Everybody Sang Yeah, Yeah, Yeah".
Has anyone mentioned the Joe Cocker version of "Darling Be Home Soon"?
It's interesting that The Knickerbockers'(named after Knickerbocker
Rd. in Bergenfield, New Jersey) drummer Jimmy Walker replaced Bill
Medley in The Righteous Brothers who were an obvious influence on the
Spector-like hits by some other non-brothers who called themselves
Walker. I believe that in their live act The Knicks did quite a few
vocal impressions of other hit groups. Not only Buddy Randall's
Beatle sounding vocals but also The Four Seasons and others.
Happy Holidays to all,
Bill Craig
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:46:47 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Wenzels Music Town
Leonardo Flores wrote:
> On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga the
> city I live in at the moment.
At Studio Z?
--Phil M.
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