Spectropop - Digest Number 711

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. New At Spectropop
           From: Spectropop Team 
      2. Ronnie Burns
           From: Norman 
      3. Re: Spoonful covers
           From: Eddy Smit 
      4. Reveres; Freddie Scott; Jay & The Americans
           From: Mike Edwards 
      5. Re: Knickerbockers
           From: Phil Milstein 
      6. Re: quoting everybody
           From: Stewart Mason 
      7. Re: Wenzels Music Town
           From: bryan 
      8. Re: Quote the Beatles
           From: Jon Cook 
      9. Re: Johnny Crawford
           From: bryan 
     10. Jerry Lordan
           From: Steve Harvey 
     11. Re: Quote the ... everyone else and Lovin Spoonful covers
           From: Antonio Vizcarra 
     12. Wildweeds rec's
           From: Phil Milstein 
     13. Re: A Spoonful of covers.
           From: Bob Wallis 
     14. Christmas in Stereo
           From: Bill Reed 
     15. Re: Wenzels Music Town
           From: Leonardo Flores 
     16. Toni's website
           From: Andrew Jones 
     17. Knickerbockers
           From: Javed Jafri 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:17:44 -0000
   From: Spectropop Team 
Subject: New At Spectropop

Dear Members,

Your weekly New At Spectropop reminder:

Surf music guru Stephen J. McParland has two new books 
out. Kingsley Abbott has reviewed them for us:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#SoundWaves

Nick DeCaro - Big In Japan. A study in self-effacement 
by Bill Reed:
http://www.spectropop.com/NickDeCaro/index.htm

Does British Sunshine Pop exist? Yes, says Mark Frumento, 
and the "Ripples" series is where to find it:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#Ripples

When Van Met Kenny - The Sandy Sheldon Story, as told 
by Kendra Spotswood to Mick Patrick. Van McCoy's muse 
tells her own story:
http://www.spectropop.com/SandiSheldon/index.htm

Whatever happened to Baby Jane & the Rockabyes? The 
story of the "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window" 
group by John "Girl Groups" Clemente:
http://www.spectropop.com/BabyJane/index.htm

Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop. An entire website devoted 
to the legendary arranger, renowned for his work with 
Phil Spector, the Stones, Neil Young and many others. 
Featuring a complete Discography and much, much more. 
The brainchild of, and updated regularly by Martin 
Roberts:
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm

Enjoy,

The Spectropop Team



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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:35:23 +1030
   From: Norman 
Subject: Ronnie Burns

re: Ronnie Burns 

thanks Phil, no this chap is no relation to the American comedy people.

Ronnie Burns was popular in Australia in the 1960s and into the 1970s. 
He was born here in Australian were he currently lives in Tasmania.  
His daughter Lauren recently won gold at the Olympics for some sort of 
martial arts.

His group the Flies were long-haired before it was fashionable and 
I believe they got busted for vagrancy once (based on the length of 
their hair). Ronnie left in 1965 to go solo and became a pop idol and 
had success with "Coalman" and  "Exit Stage Right", both written by the 
Gibbs.  Throughout the sixties he scored with many titles written by 
various writers, including Johnny Young who wrote his biggest hit 
"Smiley" in 1969.

Norman



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Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:30:25 +0100
   From: Eddy Smit 
Subject: Re: Spoonful covers

> Has anyone mentioned the Joe Cocker version of "Darling Be Home Soon"?

Slade also did a version of that one...I believe on Alive.

Eddy




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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:39:52 -0500
   From: Mike Edwards 
Subject: Reveres; Freddie Scott; Jay & The Americans

Jeff Lemlich:
> The Reveres - "The Show Must Go On"/"Beyond The Sea" on 
> Jubilee (1963)

Hi Jeff,
"The Show Must Go On" (Jeff Barry-Artie Resnick) appears on a double CD of
Brill Building pop/R&B items, "On Broadway" from UK Westside. Mick Patrick
and Malcolm Baumgart wrote the liner notes and offer some discussion on this
song but none as to the identity of the group except to note that there is a
lot of Jay & The Americans in there. J&TA recorded a version on their "Try
Some Of This" album in 1967 produced by Jeff Barry and arranged by Artie
Butler.

As I said about the now missing Gary Criss, unless these guys bumped into
you during their careers, Jeff, their identities are probably lost forever.

Incidentally, the CD has 50 titles and is good value if you can pick one up.
Best track: Freddie Scott - "Where Does Love Go" (Colpix, 1964), a forgotten
Billboard chart entry if ever there was one. On the J&TA album, there's
"(He's) Raining In My Sunshine". Ditto with awesome back-up vocals. Jay
doesn't include this in his act today.

Enjoy that warm Florida sunshine, dog.

Mike Edwards



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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:13:55 +0000
   From: Phil Milstein 
Subject: Re: Knickerbockers

Bill Craig wrote:
> It's interesting that The Knickerbockers'(named after Knickerbocker
> Rd. in Bergenfield, New Jersey) ...

If I remember my Bergenfield history correctly the town was 
also home to The Ducanes. Bergenfield is actually just one 
of the several towns in Bergen County that Knickerbocker Rd. 
winds its way through, although I assume, from Bill's 
comment, that it was the one the band's namer had 
specifically in mind when he named it.

--Phil M.



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Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:51:48 -0500
   From: Stewart Mason 
Subject: Re: quoting everybody

We can't forget Reunion's "Life Is A Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)"
...try though some of us might.

S



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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:58:34 -0800
   From: bryan 
Subject: Re: Wenzels Music Town

Leonardo Flores wrote:
> On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga 
> the city I live in at the moment.

Phil M. asked:
> At Studio Z?

The Surfaris recorded "Wipe Out" in the winter of 1962; it was their 
very first recording session and they'd brought only one song to record. 
"Wipe Out" was whipped together in forty minutes by the band and their 
producer Tony Hilder.

The studio - called the Pal Recording Studio - was at the time owned 
by engineer/producer Paul Buff. At first, Pal was located at 8020 
Archibald St., in a business district, before eventually moving up the 
street to 8040 Archibald. Landlord Carl Massingale owned both buildings. 

In 1963, Buff began working at Art Laboe's Original Sound studios. On 
August 1, 1964, he sold the Pal Recording Studio to his good friend, 
musician/composer/arranger/producer Frank Zappa. Zappa paid only $1000 
to take over the lease, and also spent $1212.00 on Buff's studio equipment. 
He owned and operated the studio for a full eighteen months before he 
gained legal title, and he formally renamed the studio what he'd been 
calling it for the past year - "Studio Z." 

If you'd like additional info on the Pal Recording Studio, Paul Buff, 
Frank Zappa, etc., feel free to contact me off-list. I have much more 
info, esp. in regards to Buff and Zappa releasing singles on Del-Fi 
Records and various subsidiaries.

Also, Paul Buff has his own website, located at 
http://www.white-lightning.com/ 

A nice Buff overview - including discographies and an interview - can be 
found at: http://www.united-mutations.com/b/paul_buff.htm

Bryan



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Message: 8
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:00:35 EST
   From: Jon Cook 
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles

Did anyone mention Sonny Bono's 'I Just Sit There'? In this 7 
minute opus he quotes both musically and lyrically 'A Day in 
the Life'  and 'Battle Hymn of the Republic'. Not bad.
jon cook



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Message: 9
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:15:33 -0800
   From: bryan 
Subject: Re: Johnny Crawford

Mike Edwards writes:
 > Forty years ago to this day Johnny Crawford was at # 12 with the 
> Miller-Greenfield song, "Rumors', its highest chart position. The 
> song is as relevant today as it was 40 years' ago. 

More info:

"Rumors" was recorded, not at Del-Fi in Hollywood, but at RCA's
studios in Nashville. As I understand it, the engineer mixed "live" 
to a 3-track tape machine, adding reverb echo as he went along, 
balancing the stereo as he recorded instead of mixing it later, as 
was then the custom (the "Nashville Sound"). 

> "No One Really Loves A Clown", written by the great David Gates. 
> David also released this song on Del-Fi but it was after Johnny 
> Crawford's release.

"No One Really Loves A Clown"/ "You Had It Comin' To You"
(Del-Fi 4206) March 1963

Gates was also a session guitarist on numerous Del-Fi songs, including 
the Surfettes' "Sammy The Sidewalk Surfer" (backed with "KRLA Jingle" - 
Mustang 3001, released in October 1964). The lead vocalist was Carol 
Connors. The song also featured both Arthur Lee and Johnny Echols, who 
were later to be labelmates of Gates' band Bread at Elektra Records while
in the group Love.

Bryan



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Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:24:39 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Jerry Lordan

Yeah Mike,
Go with the Lordan. Check out:
http://www.mcr26.freeserve.co.uk/shadows/Lordan/Default.htm
for more on Mr. Jordan. Definately gifted with melodies. 



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Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:30:14 -0000
   From: Antonio Vizcarra 
Subject: Re: Quote the ... everyone else and Lovin Spoonful covers

Some foreign covers of Lovin Spoonflul songs which are really good 
are Ela é um misterio para mim (She's still a mistery to me) by 
Renato e os blue caps (Brazil´s answer to the Beatles and the Dave 
Clark Five) and Sé que hay algo mágico (Do you believe in magic?) 
by los Huespedes felices a fantastic 60s-influenced band from Spain 
that released only one EP.

As for quotes of beatles songs you should listen to "Wait a minute 
girl" by ex-raspberries Scott McCarl where most of the lyric is 
comprised of titles of Beatles songs. Also the Happy Losers on their 
song "Somewhere in the Middle of a Sunday" quote Free as a bird (and 
sing a snippet of the song).

Antonio






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Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:18:18 +0000
   From: Phil Milstein 
Subject: Wildweeds rec's

A few weeks ago someone posted here a reference to a new 
Wildweeds compilation and newspaper article about them. 
Having now digested both, I would like to thank whoever it 
was, and to underscore his or her recommendation of both.

The article, at 
http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/articles/wildweeds.html is 
an exceptionally well-considered anatomy of a band, and the 
CD (http://www.confidentialrecordings.com) captures the full 
breadth of a band that offered the highest order of blue-eyed 
soul/pop (with lite-psych flourishes). A third link was to the 
band's official website, at http://www.wildweeds.net 
I urge you all to give some thought to checking these out.

--Phil M.



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Message: 13
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:44:30 -0000
   From: Bob Wallis 
Subject: Re: A Spoonful of covers.

Steve Harvey wrote:
> Looking to build a CD of Lovin' Spoonful covers. Got about 
> ten so far, the strangest being a tie between Pat Boone vs. 
> the Butthole Surfers. 

Steve,
While looking through some music today I found a version of 'Bald 
Headed Lena' done by the McCoys. The coolest thing about the 
Spoonful's version is Zal gargling the bridge and the fade-out!

"She can't wear no wig 'cause her head's too big, but she's all 
right with me."

BW



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Message: 14
   Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:05:20 -0000
   From: Bill Reed 
Subject: Christmas in Stereo

I am sure that all of this is basic Spector 101---but I was absent 
that day--- and my (at last) acquisition today of the Spector 
Christmas album in STEREO makes me a bit curious as to the history of 
its issue. Why did PS mix it in Stereo in '76 if he was so opposed to 
doing so in the first place? And what was the official reason given, 
if any, for its withdrawal? And what about the "Back to Mono" buttons 
PS/Santa wears on the front of the Apple issue from '72? Is the "Back 
to Mono" also on both the withdrawn mono AND stereo PS/Warners issue 
from 1976? In addition, what is the relationship between Spector and 
Pavillion Records STEREO version of the Xmas album in '81 with the 
same  Santa photo, but minus the Back to Mono buttons. I would think 
that if Spector licensed Xmas to this CBS subid label (did Spector 
own it?), it would/should have been in the mono version that Spector 
supposedly preferred.

BTW it really is a treat to hear a slighly different-sounding version 
of this of Spector's masterpiece. I guess I must lack purist genes, 
because I like it just fine.

Thanks in advance....

Bill Reed
http://www.pinkywinters.com



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Message: 15
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:36:02 -0000
   From: Leonardo Flores 
Subject: Re: Wenzels Music Town

> On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga 
> the city I live in at the moment.

Phil M:
> At Studio Z?

Phil,
Wipe out was recorded at Pal Studios which was later sold to Frank 
Zappa and renamed Studio Z. By the way when I said "flipside" I meant 
the other side of the story.
Thanks
Leonardo Flores



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Message: 16
   Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 19:33:02 -0500 (EST)
   From: Andrew Jones 
Subject: Toni's website

Just checked out Toni Wine's new website. Even if it is unfinished, 
I highly recommend it. One thing that really astonshed me was how 
many singles Toni released, and how none of them even made a dent 
on the charts. And not even a full-length solo US album! Sad. 




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Message: 17
   Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:01:23 -0500
   From: Javed Jafri 
Subject: Knickerbockers

Bill Craig:
> It's interesting that The Knickerbockers'(named after Knickerbocker
> Rd. in Bergenfield, New Jersey) drummer Jimmy Walker replaced Bill
> Medley in The Righteous Brothers who were an obvious influence on the
> Spector-like hits by some other non-brothers who called themselves
> Walker. I believe that in their live act The Knicks did quite a few
> vocal impressions of other hit groups. Not only Buddy Randall's
> Beatle sounding vocals but also The Four Seasons and others.

I don't own the record but I believe the first Knickerbockers album 
had liner notes by Brian Wilson.

Javed





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