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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Christmas song?/Quoting everybody
From: Javed Jafri
2. Re: "Just Another Guy"
From: Lindsay Martin
3. Craig Douglas, Forrester,Hayride, more
From: Country Paul
4. Castanets; Y & the Castanettes
From: Mike Edwards
5. Darlene Love
From: Scott
6. Battle Of The Bands: Cliff vs The Times
From: Mike Edwards
7. Re: Quotes
From: Richard Willliams
8. The Times / Just Another Guy
From: Norman
9. RIP Zal Yanovsky
From: Marc Miller
10. Re: R.I.P. Zal
From: Tim Viney
11. Roger Scott & James Hamilton
From: Mike Edwards
12. Classic Gold/Emperor Rosko
From: Mike Edwards
13. Ronnie Spector's Xmas Party
From: Spectropop Team
14. Re: Darlene Love "I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life"
From: Mick Patrick
15. Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
From: Richard Havers
16. Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
From: Simon White
17. Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
From: Paulus247
18. Norma Tanega
From: Mike Edwards
19. The magic will set you free!
From: Steve Harvey
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:37:38 -0500
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Christmas song?/Quoting everybody
> Stewart Mason:
> We can't forget Reunion's "Life Is A Rock (But the Radio Rolled
> Me)" ...try though some of us might.
Rat Pfink:
> Although that one didn't really quote anybody, it just did a lot
> of name checking...
> RP
Actually the song did quote a few song titles towards the end..
Do Da Do Da, Good Vibrations, Surfer Girl and Help Me Ronda (or was
that Little Honda ).......and then a bit of self quoting for Joey
Levine : Yummy Yummy followed by Sugar Sugar. I want to Take You
Higher is in there somewhere as well as a riff from Baby I Need Your
Loving. Quite an accomplishment. What other record mentions all this
plus Kama Sutra and Mott The Hoople?
Javed
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:31:04 +1000
From: Lindsay Martin
Subject: Re: "Just Another Guy"
Phil wrote:
> I have a version of "Just Another Guy" on an Australian release
> by the Times, whoever they may be?
The Times were from Perth (capital of the state of Western Australia).
I'm not familiar with them, but I notice that their song "Glad Not Sad"
charted in Melbourne at #40.
I've always thought Cliff's version of "Just Another Guy" is one of his
two or three very best tracks, one of those songs you can't believe was
a B-side.
(Lindsay's First Law of Spectropop: any much-cherished masterpiece that
you think everyone else in the world has overlooked will eventually be
mentioned in Spectropop.)
In Sydney, the A-side charted at #7, and it was a #1 in the UK.
However, Thomas J. Guest's Melbourne chart book lists it the other way round,
as a double-sider at #9: "Just Another Guy"/"The Minute You're Gone". Ah, we
Victorians always did have an ear for a fine pop song!
Lindsay
in Oz
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:34:31 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Craig Douglas, Forrester,Hayride, more
So far behind - so much to catch up with....
Frank Lipsius, thanks for the "Twang Gang" notes; wrote to you
off-list and will be ordering.
Jenny Luvver wrote:
> Craig Douglas had quite a few hits on the UK charts in the
> early '60s, most of them cover versions....I've never heard of
> "Love Her While She's Young", though.
London (US) 9611: "Danke Schoen"/"Love Her While She's Young",
wr. Singleton, Roosevelt Music BMI, 1963. Haven't heard it in
a while, but I remember it was very pleasant. "Danke Schoen"
wasn't to my ears.
Smokey Roberds mentioned Les Baxter - I have a very scratchy 78
of the astoundingly beautiful "Love Theme from 'The Robe'" on
Capitol. Is this available on CD?
JB wrote:
> At the end [of 'Finding Forrester'] is a bright and breezy
> rock-steady version of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" coupled
> with [What A] "Wonderful World"....It made half the kids cry
> it was so beautiful, to say nothing of the moistening mine
> own eyes did. Anyone know who sang it???? <
I loved it so much I bought the album! [Columbia CR 85350]
(The recording was also used in a commercial for quite a while
- I don't remember the product, but how could one forget the
performance?) The artist is Israel Kamakawiwo'ole, originally
released in 1993, apparently by The Mountain Apple Company/Big
Boy Records of Hawaii. I can't remember the source of this, but
he was one of the deans of Hawaiian singers, and he passed away
within the last couple of years.
Kingsley, thanks for http://www.revola.co.uk. I'd could buy up
about half their catalog in one sitting. Might start with the
Sandy Salisbury demos....
Apologies for misidentifying Atco as Colpix on Toni Wine's
"Sisters of Sorrow" and for upsetting Dan re: my Bobby Russell
comments. (Many records, many tastes.) One more on Russell: I
remember a song by something like the Saturday Morning Cartoon
Show called "Hayride" - sort of bubblegum, and quite catchy.
Was that a Russell-Cason project too?
More soon,
Country Paul
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:21:49 -0500
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Castanets; Y & the Castanettes
Brian Davy:
> Yolanda & the Castanets - "Meet Me After School"
> The Castanets - "I Love Him"
> Both good songs, but are they the same Castanets, or
> different Castanets altogether?
Hi Brian,
If you can play Yolanda to musica we might be able to apply
the audible test and make an informed guess.
The Big Book lists:
Yolanda & Castanettes: Meet Me After School/What About Me
on Tandem from 1961, and
Castanets: I Love Him/Funky Wunky Piano on Tcf 1 from 1963.
Each group appeared to make only one 45 each. Given that and
the timespan between releases, they could well have been
different groups. I have the Castanets on the M&M CD,
Touch The Wall Of Sound Vol 1, and it's nice g-g sound arranged
by Morty Craft.
I have asked this before, but if any of our members who live
in Japan have any information on Japanese dealers who might
sell M&M and A-Side CDs, would they please write in.
Thanks, Mike Edwards
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:07:07 -0000
From: Scott
Subject: Darlene Love
I was wondering if anyone knows where Darlene Love released
"I Loved Him Like I Love My Very Life" I am sure I have heard
this song by her but can't seem to find it it my collection.
Was it on her LP that sold only on a cruise ship? (That sounds
funny, but I believe it's true... please correct me if I'm wrong).
Thanks,
Scott
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:57:47 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Battle Of The Bands: Cliff vs The Times
Nice entry from Phil Chapman:
> I have a version of "Just Another Guy" on an Australian release
> by the Times, whoever they may be? Also a b-side, with more or
> less the same arrangement. Did they cover Cliff, or the Neil
> Diamond demo? ....Incidentally, the A-side is a cover of Elvis'
> "Tender Feeling", sung in soundalike fashion (to the tune of
> "Shenandoah"), over a quasi-Shadows track.
Thanks for playing the Times' "Just Another Guy" to musica, Phil.
The arrangement is very similar to Cliff's even down to that slowed
down ending and the lead vocals. The guitar backing track reminds
me a little of the Ev's "Walk Right Back" in places. Who did it first?
I don't know, but I can only imagine that with Cliff's A-side,
"The Minute You're Gone" selling boatloads of copies in Cliff's
territories (i.e. everywhere except the US), some enterprising
individual flipped it over and thought that there may be the
makings of a hit record. Cliff definitely has the better version
with the full talents of Music City, USA behind him.
What I don't understand is why Neil Diamond didn't step into Jeff,
Ellie or Bert's office and say, "If you're looking for album tracks,
I have this song". Maybe there's more to it?
Yes, I would love to hear "Tender Feeling" by the Times.
Thanks, Mike Edwards
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:11:18 +0000
From: Richard Willliams
Subject: Re: Quotes
I like it when quotes are used imaginatively, to enrich the
meaning of a song. One of my favourites is by Springsteen:
"Summer's here and the time is right/For racing in the street."
A double quote, actually, because the music is based on the riff
from "Then He Kissed Me". It works because the sombre mood of the
song (by contrast with the source materials) says something about
what it was like to grow up in the time between the early Sixties
and the middle Seventies, about the death of innocence and the
onset of adulthood. Actually it always makes me think of Paul
LeMat's character, John Milner, in American Graffiti: the last
American hero, fading into history. ("The Promise", a variation
on the same theme, brings to mind Dennis Wilson and James Taylor
in the great Two-Lane Blacktop.)
Richard Williams
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:02:20 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: The Times / Just Another Guy
The Times covered "Just Another Guy" in 1965. This was the
Western Australian group Terry Walker sang with prior to joining
Glen Ingram and the Hi Five. He later joined the Strangers and
covered Tony Burrow's "My Melanie Makes Me Smile".
In 1965 I would fancy that the Cliff Richard version was sourced
rather than Neil Diamond's.
Norman
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:31:35 -0500
From: Marc Miller
Subject: RIP Zal Yanovsky
A Reuters' obituary for Zal Yanovsky can be found in the articles area:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/articles/Zal%20Yanovsky.txt
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:09:53 -0000
From: Tim Viney
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Zal
"Do You Believe In Magic" is one of my favourite singles from
1965. I can remember the first time I heard it - it made me
rush out and buy it. Great guitar break.
Tim
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:11:10 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
Those residing in the UK in the 70s may recall an oldies show
on Capital Radio (broadcasting from London) hosted by Roger
Scott. For the most part, Roger's music was supplied by UK
collector/DJ, James Hamilton. I think Roger passed away in the
late 80s at a horribly young age. James passed away about ten
years' later and I got a list of his records that were being
sold off by Bonhams, one of the London auction houses.
As I recall they did two two-hour shows entitled "girls, girls,
girls", before the girl group genre existed. The music was superb
and I became a convert. They grouped the titles so you heard, for
example, all the "party" and "16" songs batched together. Janie
Black's "Lonely 16" was one of these titles. I now own a copy,
thanks to that show because I certainly have not heard it on the
radio since.
I would be very grateful if fellow members would post some comments
about either Roger Scott or James Hamilton. They truly were
innovators.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:19:11 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Classic Gold/Emperor Rosko
Always in search for radio shows that play lesser know oldies,
I came across Classic Gold on the web and noted that one of the
presenters was Pirate Radio great, Emperor Rosko – now safely
back home in his native LA. It appears that his show is on at
12:00 midday, London time, on Saturday and Sunday. Is his show
any good or just an attempt to cash-in on a name from the past?
Thanks,
Mike Edwards
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:52:40 -0000
From: Spectropop Team
Subject: Ronnie Spector's Xmas Party
Posted to the Spectropop Public Bulletin Board by Joe Somsky
of the Ellie Greenwich Fan Club:
Hi Fans,
Hope to see you all At Ronnie Spector's Xmas Party, Saturday
December 21st, 08 p.m. at BB KING'S, 237 West 42nd Street,
Manhattan. We will be Chevy's between 5 p.m. and 7 p.m. for
Munchies, (corner of 42nd St and 8th Ave, four doors down from
BB KING'S).
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:48:18 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Darlene Love "I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life"
Original Message From Scott:
> I was wondering if anyone knows where Darlene Love released
> "I Loved Him Like I Love My Very Life" I am sure I have
> heard this song by her but can't seem to find it it my
> collection. Was it on her LP that sold only on a cruise ship?
Nope, Darlene's "ILHLILMVL" was not contained on her "cruise
ship LP". I believe the track was recorded c.1975, around about
the same time as "Lord If You're A Woman". It was first issued
on the various artists album "Phil Spector 74/79" on the Phil
Spector International label (2307 015) in, erm, 1979. It was
also contained on the PSI LP "Darlene Love Masters" (2335 236)
two years later. The track has never been issued on a legal CD.
That is to say, there are bootleg CDs around that feature the
recording.
Versions of the song were also recorded by Carla Thomas (Stax,
1971), Ronnie Spector (Apple, c.1971, unissued) and (Tony)
Orlando & (Toni) Wine (Triad, 1984). The PSI albums credit
authorship of "I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life" to Phil
Spector. The song was actually co-written by him with Irwin
Levine and Spectropop darling, Toni Wine. But you knew that
already.
Darlene Love herself seems to think she recorded the song some
years prior to its issue. That may well be true. I would
imagine the Spector/Wine/Levine team wrote it in the late-1960s,
at the time of their other collaborative efforts such as "Black
Pearl" and "You Came, You Saw, You Conquered". Maybe when Toni
and her hubby Allan return from their Christmas break they'll
tell us for sure.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:27:41 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
Loved Roger Scott's show. His 'Three o'clock Thrill' was one of the
best things on the radio and his love of the music he played showed
through in everything he did. He was a guy who played what he loved. Of
course now he wouldn't even get a job on the radio. The programme
controllers would not tolerate someone who loved music and knew so much
more about it than they do!
There is a direct correlation between the decline in radio and the
decline in the role of the individual DJ. I well remember a friend of
mine, Graham Dene, on Capitol Radio in London playing Zoom by Fat
Larry's Band which was on an album. Motown hadn't released it as a
single but Graham played it and played it until they did. I think it
made No.2 in the UK. can't see that happening now.
People who love music and champion artists and songs are what turned
most, if not all of us onto music. Now we have a computer that
'selects' what we hear. The programmers insist they can programme the
computers to take account of changes in the weather, the time of day,
the direction of the wind and whatever else. Problem is there is no
substitute for passion, and passion it what is missing on the radio in
Britain. I am fed up with hearing people in the music business talk
about product.....it's never been easy to be passionate about product.
OK soap box away, time for some real music........
Best
Richard
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:22:32 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
Mike Edwards wrote:
> I would be very grateful if fellow members would post some comments
> about either Roger Scott or James Hamilton. They truly were innovators.
I remember the show well - I had requests under many different names for
very obvious things - didn't Roger Scott do a Rock and Roll show too, or
was that someone else? James Hamilton wrote an influential dance column
for Record Mirror for many years.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:37:30 EST
From: Paulus247
Subject: Re: Roger Scott & James Hamilton
I remember James Hamilton used to have a fantastic Disco column in Record
Mirror in the late 70s, I was a huge fan. I'd love to re-read it now.
Sorry to hear he died.
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:23:54 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Norma Tanega
Norma Tanega was clearly 35 years ahead of her time. Back in 1966,
she recorded the song, "Walking My Cat Named Dog" on New Voice (and
available on the great double CD, "The DynoVoice Story"). In the
current Eminem film "8 Mile" everyone is referred to as "dog". So I
call one of my cats, "dog" and he doesn't seem to object. Now, as for
a street that rhymes at 6;00 am, well I'm still working on that!
PS – "The DynoVoice Story", now sadly discontinued, was one of my
favorite purchases this year. I just wish someone would play Hal
Miller's version of "Blessing In Disguise" to musica.
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:24:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: The magic will set you free!
Tim Viney wrote:
> "Do You Believe In Magic" is one of my favourite singles from 1965.
> I can remember the first time I heard it - it made me rush out and
> buy it. Great guitar break.
Yeah Tim, the guitar break is great, partly because Zally's licks,
for the most part, sound very countryish. Strange on a pop single,
but it works. The tune is currently being used on a car commercial.
It's like the sixth or seventh Spoon tune used for commercials.
Steve
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