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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Old Hobbits Die Hard?
From: Bobster
2. Bob Gaudio
From: Adam Guida
3. Re: Disbanded but not forgotten
From: Nick Archer
4. Re: McGuinness Flint
From: Javed Jafri
5. The Bunch - Rock On
From: Norman
6. Re: Soul Harmony Book
From: Paul Lewis
7. Re: 4 Seasons, Bob Crewe, Eddie Rambeau
From: Rosemarie Edwards
8. It's My Party - 40 years later
From: Patrick Rands
9. Jerry Cole's "Midnite Mary"/4 Seasons Soundalike
From: Jeffrey Glenn
10. Hit Man - Learn to love the tyrant who made Motown.
From: Neb Rodgers
11. All American Boys/Walker Bros
From: Ron Weekes
12. The Stephen Crane Village
From: Stuart Miller
13. Re: It's My Party - 40 years later
From: Phil Milstein
14. Re: McGuinness Flint
From: Peter Lerner
15. River of Salt
From: Steve Harvey
16. Re: Nick DeCaro on 45 / The Grads
From: Don Hertel
17. Re: River of Salt
From: Ian Chapman
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:42:30 -0500
From: Bobster
Subject: Old Hobbits Die Hard?
Sylvain, I wish you the best of luck on your quest. I hope
there is a 3rd Hobbits LP, and a 4th, and a 5th, and.....
I don't believe there is anything quite like the powerful
beauty of Fairport Convention's 1st American album ("Fotheringay",
"No Man's Land", etc.). Long live McGuinness Flint. "When I'm
Dead and Gone" b/w "Lazy Afternoon" is one of my very favorites
from the early 7Ts. Recently purchased the "Happy Birthday, Ruthy
Baby" album and was displeased for the most part, tho' there's
good stuff to be had especially on Side 1 - I've never heard the
1st album in its entirety, I'll bet it's a lot more interesting.
I tend to like that folksy Band-like sound. Speaking of similar-
sounding groups, can any Spectropoppers recommend McKendree
Spring's 1st and 2nd albums? Have been wavering as to whether
to get those - have heard good things, but not actually heard
any of their stuff. Just to get "13 Questions" back again, I
bought the Seatrain (Capitol) LP a couple of years ago. The
chart single plus "Midnight"-something-or-other (again, great
folksy-blues sound a la Robbie Robertson) are my 2 favorites
on that one. Like Javed I, too, was not all that impressed with
Matthews Southern Comfort's version of 2Woodstock", having loved
Joni and CCNY's versions both. Don't get me wrong - Ian Matthews
is a groovy composer, singer, and musician.
Ciao for now, Bobster
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:31:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Adam Guida
Subject: Bob Gaudio
Kingsley Abbott:
> We, quite rightly seem to have agreed of the worth of Bob
> Crewe as an excellent producer...BUT...in terms of the
> Seasons, what about the worth of Bob Gaudio?
Yeah, I agree. Anybody who's thinking of pitching in on the
Crewe/Seasons thread oughta check out the Charles Calello
interview at the Genuine Imitation Life website first.
http://www.genuine-imitation-life-gazette.com/
Charlie gives his opinion on the influences of everybody
involved, and he sure holds Bob Gaudio in very high regard.
Also interesting to hear that Nick Massi had more of an
influence on the group than you might think.
--Adam G
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:38:35 -0600
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Re: Disbanded but not forgotten
> I remember Batdorf and Rodney. There seemed to be a virtual
> explosion of folksy duos in the wake of the success of Seals
> and Crofts/Brewer and Shipley. Does anyone recall Vigrass and
> Osborne or Tufano and Giamarese (ex Buckinghams) or Aztec Two
> Step or Cashman and West.
As a DJ in the 70s, it was hard to keep up with the duos. One
station that I worked for played Batdorf & Rodney, Deardorf &
Joseph, Cecilio & Kapono, Gallagher & Lyle, Mouth & McNeal,
England Dan & John Ford Coley, and LeBlanc & Carr, not to mention
the Neilson-Pearson Band, the Larsen-Feiten Band, the
Tarney-Spencer Band, the Sanford-Townsend Band, and the
Pousette-Dart Band. Lucky that you could put the album up
next to the board to announce it.
And what about the brother groups? Addrissi Brothers, Allman
Brothers, Curtis Brothers, Winters Brothers, Hudson Brothers,
Wilson Brothers, and a member of both groups, Sutherland Brothers
& Quiver.
Nick Archer
Check out Nashville's classic SM95 on the web at
http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0500
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: McGuinness Flint
Justin asked:
> Anybody remember McGuinness Flint?
Justin,
I sent quite a long reply to your original post but I missed
your PS and guess what I have - the McGuiness Flint single of
"When I'm Dead and Gone". This actually made the lower rungs
of the Billboard Hot 100, based mostly on FM airplay. A very
nice early 70s record and one that does not sound dated to my
ears.
Now by Spectropop standards, I probably have a very small record
collection (and have simply frittered away a lot of freebies
and promos) but I'm amazed at how many of the same records we
share from that era. McGuiness Flint were Manfred Mann alumni
and so this post is not too far off topic.
Javed
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:15:55 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: The Bunch - Rock On
Javed Jafri:
> Ian Mathews was a alumni of Fairport Convention and I'm
> trying to recall an album by Sandy Denny and The Bunch
> (??) from the early 70s which was comprised of covers of old
> rock'n roll songs. I remember hearing some tracks on CHUM FM
> and wanting to buy the album but never did.
One of my favourite albums is this. "Rock On" by the Bunch.
12 tracks and my favourite is "The Loco-Motion".
Here is a run down of the album.
Artists appearing:
Richard Thompson (gtr)
Gerry Conway (drums) Dave Mattacks (drums)
Tony Cox (piano) Ian Whiteman (piano)
Pat Donaldson (bass)
Sandy Denny (vocals)
Linda Peters (vocals)
Trevor Lucas (vocals)
Ashley 'Tyger' Hutchings (vocals)
Dundee Horns - Roger Bell (sax)
Mollie (sax) and Mike Rosen (trumpet);
Produced by Trevor Lucas
Recorded during January 1972 at The Manor
Tracks: Side 1
Crazy Arms
That'll Be The Day
Don't Be Cruel
The Loco-Motion
My Girl In The Month of May
Love's Made a Fool of You
Side 2
Willie and The Hand Jive
Jambalaya (On The Bayou)
When Will I Be Loved
Nadine
Sweet Little Rock'n'Roller
Learning The Game
Island Records 1972
(Australian issue through Festival Records)
SIL 934574 (ILPS 9189)
Regards,
Norman
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:40:39 +0000
From: Paul Lewis
Subject: Re: Soul Harmony Book
Phil Milstein and Mick Patrick,
Thanks for the information about where to buy this book.
I know it will be a good resource.
Thanks
Paul
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:54:23 -0000
From: Rosemarie Edwards
Subject: Re: 4 Seasons, Bob Crewe, Eddie Rambeau
Re. 4 Seasons/Bob Crewe debate:
Ken, I have asked Ed if he wanted to add anything and he
said:
"Are they aware that one of Bob Crewe's biggest hits as a
writer was 'Can't Take My Eyes Off You'...he also recorded
'The Girl Watcher's Theme' with the Bob Crewe Orchestra.
My only hit record was not produced by Bob Crewe himself,
but his arranger Charles Callelo ('Concrete and Clay')."
Eddie Rambeau
http://www.edrambeau.com
via Rosemarie
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:10:34 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: It's My Party - 40 years later
It's been called to my attention that Lesley Gore's smash
hit "It's My Party" will be celebrating the 40th anniversary
of its release date on March 30th. Anyone have any ideas if
there's any parties goin' on in honor of this fact? Any great
ideas on how to celebrate? I think a bash (crying about it
or not!) of some sort is in order.
:Patrick
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:17:28 -0800
From: Jeffrey Glenn
Subject: Jerry Cole's "Midnite Mary"/4 Seasons Soundalike
I've just played Jerry Cole's version of "Midnite Mary"
to musica in response to an off-list request (sorry it took
a few days, Mike, but I've got my computer back!). The full
credits from the single are in the description on the musica
page.
And another great 4 Seasons soundalike that hasn't yet been
mentioned is "Hey Summer" by The Stephen Crane Village
(Metromedia MM-132) from 1969. It sounds like a cross between
an early 4 Seasons hit and The Ragamuffins' Gary Zekley-produced
"The Fun We Had"! Written and produced by Denny Randell, and
arranged & conducted by Charles Calello. Already have an mp3
ready to play to musica once there's enough space.
Jeff
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:05:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Neb Rodgers
Subject: Hit Man - Learn to love the tyrant who made Motown.
From Slate.com, a review of a book that actually has positive
things to say about Berry Gordy!
http://slate.msn.com/default.aspx?id=2076709
-Neb
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:42:19 -0700
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: All American Boys/Walker Bros
Fellow list members,
Here's the latest tome from Stephen J McParland. I haven't
received a copy of it yet, but as soon as I get it, I'll
post a review.
Ron Weekes
http://www.garyusher.com
FROM CMUSIC BOOKS .......
ALL AMERICAN BOYS: The Walker Bros. Genesis
by STEPHEN J McPARLAND
200 pages, 200x265, glossy coloured cover
ALL AMERICAN BOYS is just that ... a story of a group of
American individuals, three of whom emerged in England during
1965 as the hit recording group known as The Walker Bros.
However, this is not a story of The Walker Bros. per se, but
rather the story of them as separate entities, of their various
friends, acquaintances and fellow musical associates and the
product they jointly produced circa 1957-1965.
Many of these releases involved Scott Engel as a performer,
songwriter, musician, arranger and producer. Of the three
individuals who became The Walker Bros., Engel was by far the
most prolific musical creator, starting out as a 13 year old
solo singer before teaming up with high school buddies such
as Kevin Bruce, John Stewart and Jonathan Young to record a
variety of vocal and instrumental singles that covered a number
of different musical styles from rock 'n' roll to novelty to
surf!
Besides well over a dozen previously undocumented Scott Engel
related releases, ALL AMERICAN BOYS also uncovers the facts
behind how The Walker Brothers Trio became The Walker Bros.
Also included is a full discography of Scott Engel - John Maus
- Gary Leeds - The Walker Bros. and associated American released
material circa 1957-1967, two colour plates, over 20 pages of
"Notes And References", 12 pages of glossy photos and a thorough
index.
This is a must for all aficionados of '60s music and, of course,
all fans of The Walker Bros.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:46:20 -0000
From: Stuart Miller
Subject: The Stephen Crane Village
Jeff Glenn wrote:
> And another great 4 Seasons soundalike that hasn't yet been
> mentioned is "Hey Summer" by The Stephen Crane Village
> (Metromedia MM-132) from 1969.
Jeff,
Strong chance that the Stephen Crane Village was in fact Bobby
Valli, Frankie's brother.
The name of the group was the housing project in Joisey where
the Valli family grew up.
Stuart
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:40:49 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: It's My Party - 40 years later
Patrick Rands wrote:
> It's been called to my attention that Lesley Gore's smash
> hit "It's My Party" will be celebrating the 40th anniversary
> of its release date on March 30th. Anyone have any ideas if
> there's any parties goin' on in honor of this fact? Any great
> ideas on how to celebrate? I think a bash (crying about it
> or not!) of some sort is in order.
An interesting idea, but don't you think somebody at it's
gonna wind up in tears?
--Phil M.
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:52:53 -0000
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: McGuinness Flint
Justin asked:
> Anybody remember McGuinness Flint?
Mr McGuinness still regularly performs, I'm fairly sure, in
various combinations of Manfreds and Blues Bands, but what
became of Mr Flint? Well, there's a story, and it's true.
Disillusioned with the music biz, he found himself in Oxford,
where during the 80s he became, anonymously and unremembered,
porter in one of the University's colleges. One day a group of
undergraduates came into the porter's lodge talking loudly, as
undergraduates do, about things they know little about, and one
of them happened to remark that Eric Clapton was highly overrated
and that some oddly trousered new romantic of the era was far
superior. "On the contrary," interrupted the college porter,
"I happen to have performed on many occasions with Eric Clapton
and he has more talent in his......... oh s**t!"
His cover was blown.
Peter
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:42:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: River of Salt
On Bryan Ferry's first solo LP, "These Foolish Things",
he does a tune called "River of Salt". Who did the original?
Steve
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:56:21 -0000
From: Don Hertel
Subject: Re: Nick DeCaro on 45 / The Grads
Martin:
> The Grads...."Everything In The Garden" is the Greenaway
> song but the record is more fondly known (at least by Ian
> and I) for the B Side, Goffin & King's "Stage Door". Placed
> your bid on eBay yet? :)
I bid on the Grads 45 on eBay, but I got sniped. I had a
feeling I would, as I had a meeting at the same time the
auction ended. I also lost the auction for Paula Wayne
doing "Yours Until Tomorrow". If anyone here won those,
I'd appreciate if you posted them in musica.
As you can guess, I'm a big fan of Goffin/King.
Don Hertel
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:22:14 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Re: River of Salt
Steve Harvey asked:
> On Bryan Ferry's first solo LP, "These Foolish Things",
> he does a tune called "River of Salt". Who did the original?
I guess that would be the fabulous and under-rated Ketty Lester.
"River of Salt" was found on the flip of her Era (UK London) 45,
"You Can't Lie To A Liar" in '62. And what an overlooked gem it
surely is.
Has there been an official CD Ketty Lester collection? And if
not, why not? In a perfect world, there would be a collection
pulling together her early Era classics, like "River", "Once
Upon A Time" (surely the sultriest version ever) and "Love
Letters"; her stunners for Tower, such as "I'll Be Looking Back"
and "Secret Love"; topped off with her RCA sides, including the
northern "Please Don't Cry Anymore" and "Some Things Are Better
Left Unsaid". Someone see to it, please.
Ian
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