________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 19 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: McGuinness Flint From: Stratton Bearhart 2. Re: Larry Henley From: Guy Lawrence 3. Re: Renaissance From: Richard Havers 4. Re: Bubblegum Music Awards From: Artie Wayne 5. New Video Link From: Jean-Emmanuel DuBois 6. Re: Renaissance From: Stratton Bearhart 7. Re: Best Falsetto From: Freeman Carmack 8. Re: Renaissance From: Richard Havers 9. Re: Renaissance / Illusion From: Eddy 10. Re: Best Falsetto / Eddie Kendricks From: Stratton Bearhart Stratton 11. Re: Illusion / Renaissance From: Steve Harvey 12. Re: Illusion / Renaissance From: Freeman Carmack 13. Kenny Chandler single From: Andrew Jones 14. Re: Larry Henley From: Mike M. 15. Re: Best Falsetto / The Kit Kats' John Bradley From: Steve Harvey 16. Re: Buzz Clifford From: Guy Lawrence 17. Re: Renaissance / Illusion From: Richard Havers 18. Re: Best Falsetto From: Shawn Baldwin 19. Re: Annie 4 Roy / Renaissance From: Clam Nebula ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:17:27 -0000 From: Stratton Bearhart Subject: Re: McGuinness Flint Furthermore, the duo, Gallagher and Lyle wrote and performed as part of McGuinness Flint. This was a time sandwhiched between their early Apple days when McCartney bought them a big cake so impressed was he with their songwriting capacities and their bigger success in the mid seventies with hits like "Breakaway" covered by Art Garfunkel. Graham Lyle has since written many great songs including "What's Love Got To Do With It". Stratton Bearhart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:04:11 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Larry Henley Dan Hughes wrote: > Didn't the Newbeats' Larry Henley later write the song Wind Beneath My > Wings? Yeah, but nobody's perfect! Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:21:40 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Renaissance Freeman Carmack wrote: > Didn't Jane go on to sing in the group The Illusion with John Hawkens > (after Blue Weaver left to join Bee Gees.) I think you're getting a little confused here. The second Renaissance album was called Illusion (which came out in 1971 in Germany, elsewhere 1973 I think). I have read in some places that the band changed their name to The Illusion but I think that may be wrong (not saying it is, maybe). Blue Weaver (ex Amen Corner) was in the Strawbs, having replaced Rick 'Vindaloo' Wakeman. John Hawken had by 1971 or so left Renaissance and joined Spooky Tooth, he had a spell with Vinegar Joe (with Elkie Brooks & Robert Palmer). From Vinegar Joe he went to the Strawbs to replace Blue, who as you say went to the Bee Gees band. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:18:55 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Bubblegum Music Awards Last night I went to the Bubblegum Music Awards with my freinds Allan Rinde and Toni Wine, who received a long overdue acheivement award for her contribution to the Archie records as the voices of Betty and Veronica. We had a chance to reminisce about about those days back at 1650 B'way [not the Brill building] with Artie Ripp [who I used to produce for] and Mark Volman [who I've created clothing for!] who also received acheivement awards. It was a lot of fun.....even though Joe Bazooka wasn't able to attend. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:17:13 +0100 From: Jean-Emmanuel DuBois Subject: New Video Link Hello, Pop lovers of the unusual kind may dig the new video section on my label's website: http://www.euro-visions.net (choose video zone). You will see live stuff + our video starring Helena Noguerra & featuring Saint Etienne Remix!! Jean-Emmanuel Deluxe happy viewing -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:50:13 -0000 From: Stratton Bearhart Subject: Re: Renaissance Another interesting connection is that Annie Haslam is married to Roy Wood of The Move/ELO/Wizzard fame who produced her album "Annie In Wonderland". Roy was greatly influenced by Spector and Wilson,- who could forget the single "Forever"?. And Roy also connected with his mentor playing saxaphone on The Beach Boys 15 Big Ones. Stratton Bearhart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:10:57 -0500 From: Freeman Carmack Subject: Re: Best Falsetto One of my favorite falsetto singers was the guy with The Kit Kats. What a set of pipes. Freeman Carmack -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:04:17 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Renaissance Stratton Bearhart wrote: > Another interesting connection is that Annie Haslam is married to Roy > Wood of The Move/ELO/Wizzard fame I think Annie lived with Roy for a few years (mid seventies) but I am not sure about the married. > Roy was greatly influenced by Spector and Wilson - who could forget the > single "Forever"?. And Roy also connected with his mentor playing > saxaphone on The Beach Boys 15 Big Ones. Roy's later bandmate in the Move, Jeff Lynne, also produced Brian Wilson.....and the Beatles.....must have been a trip! Richard (I never knew I was so into Renaissance!) p.s. Roy was born Ullyses Adrian Wood -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:18:52 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Renaissance / Illusion There is indeed a band Illusion, that came out of Renaissance. Their first album is indeed a rather obscure affair, but I do have their second right in front of me. It's called Out of the Mist. The group consisted of John awken, Louis Cennamo, Jane Relf, Jim McCarty, John Knightsbridge and Eddie McNeil. I'll have to descend to deeper dungeons for exact info on Renaissance, but if memory serves their second album was called Prologue, by which time Annie Haslam was already in the band and Jim McCarty had already left, only present here with two co-songwriting credits. The album was co-produced by Miles Copeland. As for Roy Wood, let's not forget his wonderful Spector-like I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:37:10 -0800 (PST) From: Stratton Bearhart Stratton Subject: Re: Best Falsetto / Eddie Kendricks I was very pleased to see the inclusion of Eddie Kendricks among the best falsetto voices in pop. The Temptations were surely the classic Motown group in regard to ensemble singing. The raw edge of David Ruffin and the "cream over a spoon" tones of Eddie created magic. Unlike the splendid white falsetto singers mentioned I consider Kendrick's voice to be most fluid, and part of the Motown legacy that had its heart in jazz as did the session musicians who graced its grooves, most notably, diametically to Eddie - James Jamerson who "bubbled around the bottom end" of many great Tamla records. Stratton Bearhart. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Illusion / Renaissance The story is that the original Renaissance wanted to reform (minus Keith, who had died by then), but the better known Renaissance (with Annie) was still around. So the first draft had to go out under the name Illusion. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:20:27 -0500 From: Freeman Carmack Subject: Re: Illusion / Renaissance OOPS - in rereading my post about Jane Relf and The Illusion, I forgot to mention that I was referring to The Strawbs - Hawkens joined them on HERO AND HEROINE and GHOSTS - THEN, appeared on The Illusion LP. It was the Strawbs that I got to "drink" a few with in '75. Is it me, or does the first McGuinness/Flint LP bare some resemblance to 71-73 Strawbs, especially the Hudson/Ford tracks? They were all just "folking" around ;7). Whew. I MUST edit more carefully at 11PM. Thanks everyone, Freeman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:43:09 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: Kenny Chandler single Ever since I was a kid, I've had this single, "Drums" (Leiber-Stoller) b/w "The Magic Ring," by one Kenny Chandler (on United Artists). Both sides are lavishly arranged and produced, and sound expensive; yet the single never made the national charts. The only info I've found about Chandler is that his single "Heart" stalled at #64 (I think) in 1963. Does anyone out there have more info about the "Drums" single - who produced and arranged it, whether it did well in certain areas, etc.? Thanks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:43:32 EST From: Mike M. Subject: Re: Larry Henley Dan Hughes: > Didn't the Newbeats' Larry Henley later write the song > "Wind Beneath My Wings"? Yes he did. And he's online at http://www.larryhenley.com MM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Best Falsetto / The Kit Kats' John Bradley Freeman Carmack wrote: > One of my favorite falsetto singers was the guy with > The Kit Kats. What a set of pipes. I agree, "Big" John Bradley, did the falsetto. I never got to see them in their haydays, but did catch a couple of reform gigs at Jerry Blavatt's club and Immaculatta College. Unfortunately, old demons arose and killed the golden goose once again. Did tape their show so I have a complete version of "Oh My Angel" and their Four Seasons medley. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:04:47 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Buzz Clifford Bob Rashkow wrote: > "Just Can't Wait" is a true treasure from Buzz Clifford and this group > on A&M which I'm lucky to own. A splendid mixture...of the California > surf sound and the mystic sitars in the middle...OOHHHHH! What a record! Has this been reissued or can someone play it to musica? Either way I'd love to hear it. Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:40:01 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Renaissance / Illusion This whole Renaissance affair is very cloudy. There second album was definitely called Illusion, Prologue was the third. Hawken, I have found out after extensive searching through the archive (Melody Makers and NME's) did rejoin some of the others as Eddy says in 1977 and recorded two albums. 'Out of the Mist' and 'Illusion' (no wonder it is so confused). They even recorded a third, 'Enchanted Caress', in 1979 which didn't get released until 1990. For what it's worth! John Tout who joined Renaissance came from Rupert's People. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:45:01 -0600 From: Shawn Baldwin Subject: Re: Best Falsetto I can't think of the guy's name, but he is high voice in the Dramatics, he deserves much mentions as well as the guy in the Dells. Also David Ruffin had a great falsetto too. Shawn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:54:10 -0000 From: Clam Nebula Subject: Re: Annie 4 Roy / Renaissance > Another interesting connection is that Annie Haslam is married to > Roy Wood of The Move/ELO/Wizzard fame... > I think Annie lived with Roy for a few years (mid seventies) but I > am not sure about the married. They were engaged at one point, but never actually married. I read about this in the transcript of a chat she did for the Artist Shop online cd store: http://www.artist-shop.com Annie also has a great website at http://www.anniehaslam.com -Neb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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