Spectropop - Digest Number 791

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Larry Verne
           From: Dan Hughes 
      2. Re: Nothern Gore
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      3. Re: War and Crime
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Goffin & Sedaka?
           From: Andrew Jones 
      5. Re: Janice Hoyte / Kit Hain
           From: Peter Lerner 
      6. Toon Disney
           From: Mark Frumento 
      7. Re: Northern Gore / The Pandoras
           From: Mick Patrick 
      8. Joyce Harris: No way out
           From: Peter Lerner 
      9. The Real Mr. Heartache
           From: Andrew Jones 
     10. WLT A Radio Romance by Garrison Keillor-- recommend
           From: George Leonard 
     11. An Introduction
           From: David Coyle 
     12. Re: The Peanuts, Anyone?
           From: Bill Reed 
     13. Re: Charlatans SF/Cry Myself To Sleep
           From: David Coyle 


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:45:27 -0600
   From: Dan Hughes 
Subject: Re: Larry Verne

Country Paul writes:
> Dan Hughes, I'm very happy to stand corrected about Larry Verne. 
> Obviously rumors of his passing were greatly exaggerated! (Guess 
> I'd better get myself the Billboard One-Hit Wonders book.)

And somebody (sorry, it's on my other computer and I'm at work now) asked
if I was personally acquainted with Larry Verne, because I had his home
address.  Alas, no, I just pulled it from a google search:
http://www.stararchive.com/get.listing/id/36268/

Thanks,

---Dan



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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:01:04 -0000
   From: Jeff Lemlich 
Subject: Re: Nothern Gore

Steve Harvey wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what Lesley Gore tune was
> considered Northern Soul? Is this a cruel hoax? 
> I love her stuff, but never considered it soul.

Soul?  Hardly... but these have a Northern sound:

I'll Be Standing By
I'm Falling Down
My Town My Guy & Me
We Know We're In Love (as heard on the final episode of "The Donna 
Reed Show"... no, "Jeff Stone" and Smitty didn't really write it, 
although Paul Petersen did record the original version of "Chained", 
itself a good Northern record.)

Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com



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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:02:03 -0500
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: War and Crime

Roger Kaye wrote:
> ...Can you help me out with another answer song /rewrite - this one is 
> a version of Edwin Starr's "War", but the chant is "Crime" this time. 
> No luck figuring this one out and haven't heard it in years.

That would be "Crime Doesn't Pay" by The Innocent Bystanders on Atlantic.




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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:19:05 -0000
   From: Andrew Jones 
Subject: Goffin & Sedaka?

[Rescued from the S'pop Public Bulletin Board]

The Everly Brothers' great hit "Crying In the Rain" was written 
by Carole King and Howard Greenfield, which leads me to ask: 
Did Neil Sedaka and Gerry Goffin ever collaborate on a 
(published) song?

Andrew Jones



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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:34:28 -0000
   From: Peter Lerner 
Subject: Re: Janice Hoyte / Kit Hain

Don asked, a few days ago:
> On another note, has anyone ever heard of Janice Hoyte?  She
> recorded "No Easy Way Down" and "Where You Lead" on Marks & Spencer
> label.  Probably early 70s. I've never heard of her or that label.

Well Don, coming back from holiday I might have guessed that someone 
in the UK could have answered the easy part of that question. M&S is 
a big store chain here in the UK (thought they had branches in the US 
too) and they specialise in good quality own label food, wines, clothes, 
furniture etc. They ran their own record label for a time in the 1970s - 
I have an album by Twiggy on it. But I've never heard of Janice Hoyte.

But on another note, can anyone help me with a UK singer songwriter 
called Kit Hain? She was the voice of a 70s band Marshall Hain and 
in the 80s did a couple of good albums including an arresting and 
brilliant 45 "Danny". I believe she went off to the States later. 
Anyone know anything further?

Peter



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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:52:41 -0000
   From: Mark Frumento 
Subject: Toon Disney

A bit of an ephemeral thing here but has anyone heard the Toon 
Disney theme on the Disney Channel? It's sung by a kid or at 
least in a kid's voice but it's a great swinging 60s tune. What 
strikes me about it is that, aside from the vocal, it has an 
authentic 60s sound to it, both the melody and the instrumentation.

If anyone familiar with this spiffy little piece of music knows it 
and knows who wrote it I'd love to know.



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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:10:38 -0000
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: Re: Northern Gore / The Pandoras

Steve Harvey wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what Lesley Gore tune was
> considered Northern Soul? Is this a cruel hoax? 
> I love her stuff, but never considered it soul.

Jeff Lemlich:
> Soul?  Hardly... but these have a Northern sound:
> I'll Be Standing By
> I'm Falling Down
> My Town My Guy & Me
> We Know We're In Love

I second that. Might I also recommend "Take Good Care (Of My 
Heart)", released on Mercury 72892 in 1968. It was produced 
by Gamble & Huff and is as soulful and danceable as bugger 
only knows what.

Don't you just hate it when a great website vanishes? Some 
months back, probably following an S'pop tip-off, I happened 
upon a fantastic site containing some drop dead great colour 
photos of all-girl band the Pandoras. I am talking about the 
white 1960s ensemble of "I Could Write A Book About My Baby" 
fame, not any other similarly monickered group. I don't 
remember the actual URL of the site. Can anyone help me find 
it please? Failing that, did anyone download the group's biog 
contained therein? I'd love a copy. Oh PLEASE!

MICK PATRICK



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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:57:19 -0000
   From: Peter Lerner 
Subject: Joyce Harris: No way out

Some of you must be familiar with Dave Marsh's outstanding book 
"The Heart Of Rock And Soul", subtitled "The 1001 greatest singles 
ever made". Yes, we could all write our lists, but few of us could 
describe those sounds, those emotions, those moments, the way Dave 
Marsh does.

If you've read the first 1000 entries and reached 1001, you'll find 
a description of a 45 I suspect few of you will have heard. "No Way 
Out" by Joyce Harris, on Infinity 005. Dave takes more than 2 pages 
to describe this record, and and the end, you may find yourself 
thinking "is this a spoof, is the author having a joke with us? Or 
is this an unutterably valuable 45?"

Well Dave said he only knew of one copy, and he himself had it on 
tape only. Well this morning I received my very own copy, a red/white 
label Infinity promo in almost mint condition. What a record for 1960! 
Sort of pre-Ike and Tina, a mind blowing New Orleans sound, with what 
has to be the worst guitarist on record (cue for a side thread, folks). 
And the b-side, "Dreamer" is similarly mind blowing albeit a ballad - 
and the guitar playing is even worse.

No, I can't play it to musica but will happily tape it for a Spectropop 
boss man to do same with. Final point - Dave Marsh's story connects the 
record to radio station WVBR. My promo is stamped WHPL The "Power Tower" 
Winchester, Virginia. Anyone have any memories of this station for me to 
connect up to my precious new 45?

Peter



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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:19:11 -0500 (EST)
   From: Andrew Jones 
Subject: The Real Mr. Heartache

One of my fellow Spectropoppers has noted the death of Johnny Paycheck.
While he's best remembered for his seventies hits, I heartily recommend
the CD "The Real Mr. Heartache: The Little Darlin' Years" (Country Music
Foundation CMF-023D), which collects his mid-Sixties singles, mostly for
his own Little Darlin' label.

This is raw, blistering Sixties honky-tonk, musically and lyrically
inventive and some of it still too intense for country radio! The CD
includes Paycheck's first big hit "A-11", his own versions of "Apartment
#9" and "Touch My Heart" (both of which became big hits for other
singers) and much more. If you're at all into country music, this should
be required listening.



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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 03 13:21:57 -0800
   From: George Leonard 
Subject: WLT A Radio Romance by Garrison Keillor-- recommend

George Leonard:
> How would you evaluate Garrison Keilor's classic book, WLT, 
> a Radio Romance? .... "Spectropop: an Internet Romance."
> We never realize we're in "history" until later.

Country Paul:
> I'd discuss the book with you on- or off-list, but I confess 
> I hadn't even heard about it until now.

Dear Country Paul,
I envy you! You're in for some fun. It is one of the funniest 
books written in the last thirty years, and what's more, it's a 
man's book. 

Keillor is, of course, a radio buff, a Spectropop manque, though 
over the wrong era. I started to hope the book is accurate as 
well as funny when I read the call letters discussion. WLT means 
something like With Lettuce and Tomato, because the station starts 
in the mid 20s, an hour broadcast to publicize a lunch room. 

Then radio explodes. I gave the book to Internet producer friends 
during the Silicon Valley boom here. At the end, TV explodes just 
the same way, and it's great to read. Just as anybody can walk onto 
the internet now and start broadcasting, as Spectropop's founder 
seems to have done, anybody, at the start of Radio or Tv, could 
just walk on. You'll recognize the parallels. 

I checked amazon and they have sample pages. 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140103805/qid=45779059/sr==1-2/ref==sr_1_2/102-6153935-6912955?v==glance&s==books

>Wlt: A Radio Romance 
>by Garrison Keillor 
>List Price:	$14.00 
>Price:	 	$11.20 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on 
>orders over $25. See details.  

Best,
George



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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:15:37 -0800 (PST)
   From: David Coyle 
Subject: An Introduction

I've been hearing about the Spectropop group for some
time now, and I'm just now getting around to
subscribing and have wondered what I was missing. So
before I start posting like a madman, I might as well
introduce myself.

I'm 31 years old and I love most if not all music from
the classic age of rock and pop, starting roughly from
the birth of rock to the birth of myself. Artists I
like that are probably diggable to Spectropop include
the Association, the Turtles, Sagittarius, Millenium,
Beach Boys/Brian Wilson solo, Emmit
Rhodes/Merry-Go-Round, Cowsills, Wondermints, Sigur
Ros, Polyphonic Spree, the Beatles (of course), Bobby
Darin, Tim Buckley, Nilsson, Shangri-Las, Joe Meek
productions, British Beat, the Zombies, Sunshine
Company, Curt Boettcher, you name it. If it's listed
in the recommended Spectropop artists list, I probably
either like it, love it, or at least have heard of it.

Looking forward to sharing and learning from you fine
folks for a long time to come.

Dave



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Message: 12
   Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 05:56:21 -0000
   From: Bill Reed 
Subject: Re: The Peanuts, Anyone?

Jeffery Kennedy wrote:
> I am looking for biographical/career information about the 
> Japanese pop female duo the Peanuts. Any details anyone 
> could provide would be most appreciated.

In a later response to this query, another Spectropopper had some 
good info on the group. Here is something else that I know: the 
Peanuts disbanded around 1975 when Emi married Kenji Sawada of the 
popular Japanese "Group Sounds" outfit, The Tigers. By necessity, 
Yumi, Peanut no. 2, followed suit in retiring. About ten years ago 
they got back together for an appearance on the wildly popular 
Japanese New Year extravaganza, "Kohaku". Whether their reunion went 
beyond this I am not exactly certain, but they are definitely not 
performing today. Very responsible for helping intro the sound of 
western rock to Japan. Viva les Peanuts!

Bill Reed
http://www.pinkywinters.com



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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:26:45 -0800 (PST)
   From: David Coyle 
Subject: Re: Charlatans SF/Cry Myself To Sleep

I really like the Charlatans CD on Big Beat. Found it
mixed in with Charlatans UK at Virgin Megastore. A lot
of their recordings are acquired tastes, very dry
folky stuff with a ragtime vibe. The booklet is very
detailed, but very apologetic about the quality of the
unreleased tracks which are nevertheless extraordinary.

The version of "Cry Myself To Sleep" I have is by Del
Shannon. Same song? I like it, but it doesn't do as
much for me as, say, "Keep Searching," "Little Town
Flirt" or "Hats Off To Larry."

That said, while I haven't heard the Four Seasons
version, I have to say I'm a big fan of the Seasons.
The anthology on Rhino, and the "Off Seasons"
collection are both vital purchases.

Dave



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