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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Message #10,000
From: S'pop Team
2. S'pop assorted
From: Phil Chapman
3. Re: Lesley Duncan
From: Jeff Lemlich
4. Desperately Seeking Superman
From: Rex Strother
5. Re: Records With Telephone Calls - Doctors Orders
From: Simon White
6. Brian Wilson Productions
From: Stratton Bearhart
7. Re: Phone records
From: Andrew Jones
8. Re: Records With Telephone Calls
From: Elisabeth
9. Re: The Dixie Cups on the line...
From: Richard Havers
10. RE: The Actionettes
From: Delia Barnard
11. Re: Ginny Arnell and R.P.M. Suggestions
From: Wesley Smith
12. Peter & Gordon - Hot Cold & Custard
From: Paul Gutter
13. Re: Donna Lynn (another GREAT single)
From: Andres Jurak
14. Re: Joyce Harris: No way out
From: Wesley Smith
15. My Favorite Telephone Song
From: David Feldman
16. The Beagle and the four Liverpool whigs
From: Antonio Vizcarra
17. Re: Music Unlimited
From: Paul Richards
18. Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
From: Dan Hughes
19. Re: Phone records
From: David Bell
20. Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
From: John Henderson
21. Re: Music Unlimited
From: Ian Chapman
22. Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
From: Guy Lawrence
23. Superman songs
From: Ken Levine
24. Two questions on the Shangri-Las
From: Sean
25. Re: Superman songs
From: Rat Pfink
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:52:44 -0000
From: S'pop Team
Subject: Message #10,000
Welcome to message #10,000
To mark this occasion, your Team have played to musica
three much-discussed tracks. Click this link......
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
to choose from:
Bonnie & The Treasures - Tell Me In The Sunlight
Nino Tempo - Boys Town
Reparata & The Delrons - I'm Nobody's Baby Now
Enjoy!
Many thanks to our members around the world, all 800+
of you, for helping to make the Spectropop discussion
forum a daily must read, continuing in the spirit of
the Group's founder, Jamie LePage.
Before we go, can we request that you spare a thought
for our moderators and please try to submit messages
in a format close to our now accepted style.
And please add your name to them.
Thanks.
The S'pop Team
Spectropop: Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:07:44 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: S'pop assorted
Norman, I meant to sing the praises of Normie Rowe's "It's Not Easy"
the first time you mentioned it. The production on this Mann-Weill
tune is expansive, and the piano intro is lifted straight from the
break of "Just Once In My Life". [played to musica]
Does anyone know if Normie's is the original version of this Brill
Building song?
Simon White wrote:
> Now what about some rekkids that start with or contain
> telephone calls?
Let me put my four penn'orth in and press button A for
Ike & Tina's "Tell Her I'm Not Home", I love Tina's humble
"Thank you" before the Ikettes kick in:-)
Elisabeth, Sunny's "Doctor's Orders" was the 'homely' original,
which I heard first, and stuck with. Even tho' I do like Carol's
version, I got a bit fed up of the 70s trend of taking regular
pop tunes and merely adding a 'disco' beat. You may like Sunny's
obscuri-ish follow-up, "Warm And Tender Romance", better.
Andrea Ogarrio:
>....I am delurking to ask another question about that wonderful
>unreleased Breakaways song in the film 'Darling'....
I dug out the video and edited the song around to remove dialogue.
Not totally sure how it stands up outside of the film, but I've
played this lo-fi offering to musica for examination.
Good to read all the Ginny Arnell posts. Much as I like all the stuff
I've heard, I think she has a slight country 'yelp' which IMHO seems
incongruous to the style of song she was given to record. Having said
that, my favourites are Teddy Randazzo's "A Little Bit Of Love (Can Hurt)"
(has anybody else recorded this?), "B I L L Why" and Chip Taylor's
"Just Like A Boy". I'll play these to musica at some point.
Talking of Teddy Randazzo, his flagship girlgroup, The Royalettes,
never seemed to get the recognition they deserved, despite great songs
and lavish production (or possibly because of the latter).
Finally, Justin wrote:
> I also recall hearing it on the radio by a group that sounds somewhat
> like the Sandpipers. The opening lyrics are: "Today while the blossom
> clings to the vine, I'll taste your strawberries, and drink your sweet
> wine". What is the correct song title and the group who performed this
> specific version?
I think this is the Randy Sparks song "Today", from from the 1964(?) movie
"Advance To the Rear" starring Glenn Ford. Recorded by, amongst others,
Jefferson Airplane and John Denver.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:27:11 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Lesley Duncan
Ian Chapman:
> "When My Baby Cries", a ballad that Dusty always wanted to
> record, but never got around to (although both the Poor Souls
> and Yvonne Prenosilova did). Now playing on musica.
Coincidentally, this is another song Orietta Berti covers on her
U.S. album release (as is Brenda Lee's "Losing You"). I guess I
do need to pick up her album now!
Thanks for posting "Se Per Caso" onto musica.
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:44:02 -0700
From: Rex Strother
Subject: Desperately Seeking Superman
I am doing a bit of research on songs that are dedicated to
or inspired by Superman - the TV show, the comic book and
cartoon character, the films. Quite a few contemporary songs
feature references ("Jimmy Olsen's Blues" by Spin Doctors, "I'm
No Superman" theme to TV show "Scrubs"). How about songs from
the 1950s and 1960s - maybe even 1970s.
I'll take any title or reference; I pray for a deluge. Would
love to have detail too - artist, label, record no., date of
release, chart history (if any), composers, lyrics!
As this list takes on theme-based song lists, maybe you'll help
me with mine? Feel free to email me off list.
Rex
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:35:34 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Records With Telephone Calls - Doctors Orders
Ian Chapman wrote:
> But, but Elisabeth....! That's Sunny of Sue &...! Carol's
> is good, yes, but for me, Sunny's distinctively husky voice
> wins every time. I still play the Love Affair's "Rainbow
> Valley" just to hear her go "meet me where the rainbow ends..."
I may be wrong, but wasn't Sunny's version the original one ?
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:44:54 -0000
From: Stratton Bearhart
Subject: Brian Wilson Productions
I agree with Mark Frumento that there is a discrepancy between the
quality of Brian Wilson's creative output with The Beach Boys and
some of the material he produced for others.
The one shining difference for me is Brian's involvement in
'American Spring', and I wonder how much of Brian's quality input
to that particular production project was due to its nature as a
family affair, with wife Marilyn as vocalist.
Stratton Bearhart
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:31:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: Re: Phone records
"Walkin' In the Rain With the One I Love" by Love Unlimited
and "Doctor's Orders" by Carol Douglas are two of my favorite
telephone-call songs. (The former contains a call, the latter
opens with one.)
Also, Frank Zappa included an actual phone call as a track on one
of his Mothers of Invention albums (can't remember which one right
now).
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:23:16 -0000
From: Elisabeth
Subject: Re: Records With Telephone Calls
Ian Chapman wrote:
> But, but Elisabeth....! That's Sunny of Sue &...! Carol's
> is good, yes, but for me, Sunny's distinctively husky voice
> wins every time. I still play the Love Affair's "Rainbow
> Valley" just to hear her go "meet me where the rainbow ends..."
Ah, I wondered if it was *that* Sunny. Well, I just listened to
both of them again now and my preference is more with the arrangement,
not the singing. Carol's is just more of a proper slinky disco beat,
where as Sunny's is a bit straight.
(oh, and the ring tone in Sunny's version is terrifying - it reminds
me of my grandma's old bakelite clunker that used to make me jump
every time it rang!)
> Back to the song in question - knowing your love of la musique
> francaise, you really should hear that telephone conversation
> done in french by the lovely Sheila. Title is "C'Est Le Coeur
> (Les Ordres Du Docteur"), and it was quite a hit there in '75.
If it's as good as her Sheila B. Devotion stuff, I'm sure I'll love
it! eBay ahoy...
Elisabeth x
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:40:53 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: The Dixie Cups on the line...
Simon White wrote:
> Now what about some rekkids thats start with or contain
> telephone calls?
Answering Machine by Rupert Holmes from his 80s album 'Partners
in Crime' (1979).
Which prompts me to mention his 1974 single, 'Our National Pastime',
it was a wonderful record; taken from his album Widescreen. While
some might find him too clever I think he wrote some great stuff.
He put whole movie ideas into single songs......'Brass Knuckles',
'Studio Musician', 'Phantom of the Opera' (1974, so no plagiarism),
'Soap Opera', 'Full Circle'......
Many will know him from 'Escape (The Pina Colada Song)', and the
Partners in Crime album hits. His earlier work is far better,
although the album Full Circle came after Partners in Crime.
Worth checking out if you love strong melodies and great lyrics.
Richard
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:29:14 -0000
From: Delia Barnard
Subject: RE: The Actionettes
The Actionettes present...
SOPHISTICATED BOOM BOOM!
a club night for people who love to dance
Can I add to this that Elisabeth (dulcet toned young lady who sang at the
spectropop party) will hopefully be doing a song with us!
x Delia Dansette x
The Details
Where: The Water Rats, 328 Grays Inn Rd, King's Cross, WC1 (note:
new venue)
When: Saturday 15th March 2003. From 9pm till late
Cost: £4
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:57:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Wesley Smith
Subject: Re: Ginny Arnell and R.P.M. Suggestions
Jeffery Kennedy:
>Ginny Arnell is one of my favorites. Personally, I've enjoyed
>every track I've heard by her (and I've heard most of them)
>because she has such a sensational voice. A very strong, emotive,
>versatile singer with a huge range.
I agree with you,Jeffery, concerning the need for a "real"
reissue of Ginny Arnell material and likewise,'I'M CRYING TOO"
is also my favorite Ginny Arnell song.Also,she had a nice earlier
release on Warwick,'MARRIED TO YOU".
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:58:26 -0000
From: Paul Gutter
Subject: Peter & Gordon - Hot Cold & Custard
Hi all!
Does anyone posess a copy of this hideously rare LP? I'm really
curious after reading the SFA article on it, and it looks like it
will not be re-released on CD for a long time coming. So pleez!!
contact me offlist.
Paul
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:23:26 -0000
From: Andres Jurak
Subject: Re: Donna Lynn (another GREAT single)
Ronnie Allen wrote:
>If anyone here has more information about her [Donna Lynn]
>I know I and Doc Rock and Andres and I assume many others
>here who fondly remember her would appreciate it!
She also had a single released only in Japan (I think)-
A-Side. I Had A Dream I Was A Beatle
B-Side. My Boyfriend Got A Beatle Haircut
Record Number CR-1124
(check this link
http://member.nifty.ne.jp/pet_sounds/music/beatles/e_single/donna.html
it's sad, no cover pic)
Andres
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 04:46:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Wesley Smith
Subject: Re: Joyce Harris: No way out
Peter Lerner:
>...."No Way Out" by Joyce Harris, on Infinity 005.
>Dave takes more than 2 pages to describe this record.....
Any admirer of Joyce Harris should definitely check out her
STUPENDOUS version (as the liner notes claim!)of her previously
unissued "I Got My Mojo Working" on the "Domino Records Story"
(Ace U.K. C D 506) Also included are both "NO WAY OUT" and
"DREAMER",as well as a great photo of the black sounding vivaceous
redhead.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:54:43 -0500
From: David Feldman
Subject: My Favorite Telephone Song
Crying in My Sleep -- a great Jimmy Webb song with a lovely
perfomrance by Art Garfunkel.
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:49:05 +0100
From: Antonio Vizcarra
Subject: The Beagle and the four Liverpool whigs
Beatlemania brought to the USA a spate of fake beatles records
made to cash in on the fab four. One of these albums that has
always fascinated me is "The Beagle and the four Liverpool whigs.
This LP includes the worst ever cover of "I want to hold your hand"
but the really intriguing part is that the rest of the album contains
some really decent do-wop songs songs in the mould of Dion & the
Belmonts and similar bands!!!
Does anybody know who were the group playing in this record? It
looks as if these were unreleased recordings from the late fifties/
early sixties that were finally released in 1964 with a completely
misleading picture sleeve and a Beatle cover version which I have my
doubts that it was really perfomed by the same band.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:09:17 EST
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: Music Unlimited
I've got a couple of volumes of 'Music Unlimited' too, Mark.
I haven't got the one you're talking of, I'll have to get it.
Really good pop promos. Really well directed, much more
interesting than modern videos. Dunno anything about them
though.
Paul
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:56:47 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
Rex wants Superman songs:
Sunshine Superman, Donovan, Epic, 1966:
"Superman or Green Lantern ain't got / Nothin' on me..."
Country Joe & the Fish, Superbird, from the album Electric
Music For the Mind and Body, lyrics here:
http://www.countryjoe.com/electric.htm#superbird
---Dan
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:10:12 EST
From: David Bell
Subject: Re: Phone records
Well, phone records has been an amusing thread so far.
One of my favourites? The sometimes squeaky clean Connie
Francis rocking it on an Eddie Curtis track, arranged by
Sammy Lowe, called "Telephone Lover."
Hello..uh Hello, darling,
Have you missed me?
You have?
Are you telling me true?
Uh, that's nice.
Well, why don't you come over my house
And talk me more of that sweet talk?
Darling? Hello? Hello? Hello?
Perhaps not quite so squeaky clean after all from America's
Sweetheart Of Song!
David.
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:14:30 -0500
From: John Henderson
Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
Rex Strother wrote:
> I am doing a bit of research on songs that are dedicated to
> or inspired by Superman - the TV show, the comic book and
> cartoon character, the films.
Rex,
"Superman's Ghost" composed/sung by Don McLean
"Superman's Song" (charted in Canada) Crash Test Dummies
These may be out of the wrong era though.
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:18:36 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Re: Music Unlimited
Mark Frumento wrote:
> I just got a video copy of what appears to be about 3 or 4
> music video programs from 1971/72......Anyway, the only credit
> on the thing is a screen that says "Music Unlimited." Does
> anyone know more about these videos?
> Were they done for TV? Theaters?
Mark,
The Music Unlimited series appeared in the very early 80s, at the
time when VCRs were just taking off. They were one of the very
first music-only comps, although they were pretty hard to come by
even then. I never managed to find any of them, but I seem to recall
seeing the track listings - mostly 70s artists, with a few late-60s?
I'm sure I remember that one volume contained the Flirtations(?)
Ian
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:13:32 -0000
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Superman
How about "Superman" by Dino, Desi & Billy (Reprise 0444) 1966?
Guy.
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:06:35 -0800
From: Ken Levine
Subject: Superman songs
"Sunshine Superman" by Donovan
"You Don't Mess Around With Jim" by Jim Croce
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:34:00 -0000
From: Sean
Subject: Two questions on the Shangri-Las
When Betty left the group who did the high parts on songs?
From what I've heard "Long Live Our Love" was Betty's first
song when she came back in 1965, but on songs like "Bull Dog"
and "Dum Dum Ditty" I hear someone singing soprano. I have
heard Marge and Mary Ann Ganser had really low voices.
Second question is on "Sophisticated Boom Boom", who is the
one toward the end of the song that goes "Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah boom boom"?
Sean
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:35:38 -0500
From: Rat Pfink
Subject: Re: Superman songs
The Kinks - (Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman
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