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Spectropop - Digest Number 863
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003
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Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Turtles/ Can I Get To Know You?
From: Ken Silverwood
2. Dick Campbell Song
From: Gary Campbell
3. Re: 60s oldies are becoming a vanishing breed
From: Billy G Spradlin
4. Oldies radio - alternatives
From: Neil Hever
5. Ron Dante and Andy Kim video clip
From: Laura Pinto
6. Re: The Liquid Room 4/20/03
From: Gene Sculatti
7. Re: Oldies
From: James Botticelli
8. "Foreign Boy" by Veronica Lee
From: Andres Jurak
9. Re: List of Spector Covers
From: Natasha McNamee
10. Re: Oldies radio
From: Patrick Rands
11. Re: Banned songs
From: Roger Smith
12. Re: Sad State Of Oldies Radio
From: David Coyle
13. Re: 1963
From: Justin McDevitt
14. Re: Rag Dolls
From: Justin McDevitt
15. King's Ransom found!
From: Neil Hever
16. Felice Bryant; Brother Records; George Freeman; Nedra Ross
From: Country Paul
17. Carter Lewis
From: Norman
18. Re: List of Spector Covers
From: Rob Stride
19. Re: Oldies radio - alternatives
From: James Botticelli
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:38:04 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Turtles/ Can I Get To Know You?
We were mentioning The Turtles quite recently in a few posts.
One of my fave tracks has been "Can I Get To Know You Better?"
There is also a version by Mark Wynter done in a more "easy"
style, then again there is another version by Betty Everett.
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:12:54 -0000
From: Gary Campbell
Subject: Dick Campbell Song
I posted a Dick Campbell mp3 to musica called "She's My
Girl."
This is the b side of the second single Dick had published.
CAMSUL RECORDS CS-1 - DICK CAMPBELL (1962)
Debbie Darling (Dick Campbell)/She's My Girl (Dick Campbell)
Published by Camsul Records
Produced by Dick Campbell & Artie Sullivan
GREAT RECORDS 45-4703-V - DICK CAMPBELL (1963)
She's My Girl (Dick Campbell)/Debbie Darling (Dick Campbell)
Hovey Music (BMI)
Produced by Camsul - Distributed by London Records, Inc.
The first was:
LEAF RECORDS C-234/5 - DICK & ROGER (1960)
C-234 Greatest Girl (Dick Campbell-Roger Hesseling)
C-235 Happy-Go-Lucky (Dick Campbell)
Produced by Dick Campbell & Roger Hesseling
I will post more songs if anyone is interested in hearing them.
Gary Campbell
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:13:49 -0000
From: Billy G Spradlin
Subject: Re: 60s oldies are becoming a vanishing breed
I think that many oldies stations that added more 70s disco
and classic rock hits (to get 35-40 somethings to listen) will
eventually start losing ratings. A lot of 70s hits just don't
have the staying power of 50s/60s classic oldies and listeners
get burned out on them quickly.
That said "Real Oldies" KSAI 1530 in Cincy just started streaming
on the net.
You can go to their website at http://www.wsai.com and use the
streamworks pop-up java player (which gives you the song titles)
but I prefer using this quick link, which should automatically
open Windows Media Player, otherwise paste the URL into the
playlist
http://www.streamaudio.com/stations/asx/wsai_am.asx
BTW I suggest checking out the Saturday night request show.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:21:33 -0000
From: Neil Hever
Subject: Oldies radio - alternatives
Popsters, I work in radio (public, thank God) so reading the
posts about calcified playlists and meek program directors hit
home. I used to work in commercial radio and hated every minute.
Indeed, I feel PDs need to grow a spine when it comes to music
rotation. The sad thing is many folks just don't seem to share
our passion for good music. We've spoken a bit about this kind
of thing on this site.
Here is my dream if I had the money. I would create an "Alternate
Universe" top 40 radio station. It would mimic the golden age of
top 40 radio but play all non-top 40 material. In other words,
it would make hits of songs that did not make it to the top 40.
The station would play hundreds of well recognized artists' OTHER
songs! I think it would be a very exciting thing to do. I guess
we already do this kind of thing with our homemade tapes and CDs!
Cheers,
Neil
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:49:03 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Ron Dante and Andy Kim video clip
Hi everybody. If you want to see some really great performing,
go to Ron Dante Online at http://www.rondante.com and click on
the link for "Pretty Woman". This will open up a new browser
window where you can view a TERRIFIC video of Ron Dante and
Andy Kim duetting on Roy Orbison's hit song. The sound quality
is indescribable, and the view ain't bad either!
Do check it out, and while you're on Ron's homepage, you can
also click on the link right above that one to hear Ron's duet
with Toni "I'm gonna make your life so sweet" Wine on a cool new
version of "Summer in the City," which will be included on Ron's
forthcoming CD, "Favorites 2".
Enjoy the great music!
Laura
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:03:09 -0700
From: Gene Sculatti
Subject: Re: The Liquid Room 4/20/03
David Ponak:
> 1.The Association/Come On In
> Birthday (WB)
David,
Hats off: What a brilliant song choice, and starting off the
show with it is great. A major soft-rock statement!
Gene Sculatti
Director of Special Issues, Billboard magazine
(323) 525-2310
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:04:09 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Oldies
Country Paul wrote:
> Nowadays the term "oldie" seems to refer to music of the
> 70s, the 80s and even the early 90s!
Just back from NYC where their WCBS (corporate enuff for ye?)
is now billing itself as "Motown! Soul! And Good Rock 'n' Roll!"
I even heard Eddie Holman and The Delfonics. Big hitz, yes, but
still....apparently not JUST the Sureshot Sixty Songs commonly
oldie-ized. Is there hope?
JB
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:42:09 -0000
From: Andres Jurak
Subject: "Foreign Boy" by Veronica Lee
Hi everybody,
Please check musica where I have played 'Foreign Boy' by
Veronica Lee. It's the flip side of the single RINGO DID IT,
released on Centaur in 1964. Marvelous song!
Special thanks to Tom Taber for helping to dig up this treasure!
Andres
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:42:54 +0100 (BST)
From: Natasha McNamee
Subject: Re: List of Spector Covers
Rob Stride:
> I wonder if anyone can help me? Is there anywhere that I
> can get a list of artists that have covered songs produced
> or written by Phil Spector?
My local library has a 'Wall Of Sound' CD of Phil covers.
Let me know if you want names and I'll hire it out and send
the list on.
Natasha
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:19:21 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Oldies radio
Ronnie Allen wrote:
> I keep hearing more and more that 60s oldies are gradually
> in the process of being totally phased out on oldies
> stations throughout the country.....
It's interesting you mention "oldies" radio, because for a short
time I am covering for another DJ, before my regularly scheduled
show (which is an experimental music show) and I have been playing
plenty of "oldies".
My show is right now a weekly show, Tuesdays from 6 to 10 pm on
WZBC 90.3 FM in the Boston area, and between 6 and 7 pm Eastern
time I play rock (before my experimental radio show). You can also
tune in online here: http://www.wzbc.org
You can see my playlists here (just choose Tuesday nights, NCP 1):
http://zbconline.com/plbrowser.php
Here's a sampling of what I played recently:
P.F. Sloan - Danger Man (Secret Agent Man)
The Unifics - Court Of Love
The Guards - Let Me Go Home
The Peddlers - Irresistable You
Buddy Rich - The Beat Goes On
The Forum - Look The Other Way
The Blades of Grass - I Love You Alice B. Toklas
Thomas & Richard Frost - She's Got Love
Hearts and Flowers - Ode To A Tin Angel
Don & The Goodtimes - I Could Be So Good To You
Mark Eric - Place For The Summer
Ramsey Lewis - Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My
Monkey
Reparata & the Delrons - Octopus' Garden
Rossini Pinto - Coracao De Pedra
Wanderlea - Nao (Juventud Twist)
Los Shakers - Acostumbro A Ver TV Los Martes 36
The Liverbirds - Diddley Daddy
Andrea Carroll - The Doo Lang
Babbity Blue - Don't Make Me
The Pandoras - Don't Bother
Nara Leao - Rapaz De Bem
Chico Buarque - Desalento
So tune in while you can - I'll be broadcasting from 6 to 7 pm for a
few more weeks.
:Patrick
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:36:57 -0400
From: Roger Smith
Subject: Re: Banned songs
> But it gets weirder: according to the Sun, US megalithic
> multi-station owner Clear Channel not only banned anti-war
> songs, but even cleared its playlist of people who died in
> plane crashes (!), like Rick Nelson and Buddy Holly, and even
> restricted the Bangles' "Walk Like An Egyptian"! (Golly, Mr.
> Channel, thank you for protecting my sensitive ears! :-( )
The story about Clear Channel banning songs isn't true as the
article at http://www.snopes.com/rumors/radio.htm explains.
-- Roger
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Sad State Of Oldies Radio
Thanks to Stewart for those thought-provoking words
about '60s oldies radio. Like him, I'm from a
different musical generation. I was born in 1972, and
my earliest musical memories start around the time of
the maligned disco era and cheesy '80s music. My
interest in '60s music came squarely from the Beatles,
although I don't know how as my mother was born in '39
and was raised on country and MOR pop.
As I got older and heard more Beatles music than what
I already had on the "Blue" and "Red" albums (which I
had on 8-track), I got interested in the other bands
from the era, and then when seeking out the original
versions of songs the Beatles did, I got into even
earlier music.
I know "oldies radio" is phasing out the '60s and
sneaking in a lot of '70s -- I've heard "Don't Stop"
by Fleetwood Mac way too many times on these stations.
Oldies radio hasn't always been completely homogenized
though -- I probably wouldn't have checked out the
McCoys, the Bobby Fuller Four, or the American Breed
if I hadn't heard "Come On Let's Go," "Love's Made A
Fool Of You," or "Step Out Of Your Mind,"
respectively, played on oldies radio.
Of course, these deviations from the standard playlist
were courtesy of renegade deejays who didn't seem to
stay on the air much longer. Probably the only true
oldies radio show I've heard recently has been Humble
Harv's "Doo Wop Heaven" show, and I don't even know if
it's still on.
Good news to hear about WSAI in Cincinnati. I haven't
heard the name Dusty Rhodes in a long time. Are AM
oldies stations more likely to play a different
variety of oldies since they're lower profile than on
FM?
David
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:32:28 -0500
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Re: 1963
Jimmy wrote: "There will never be another year like 1963".
If ever there is a reason to wax nostalgic about the past,
for me, the year 1963 provides the incentive. It was a great
year to be an 11-year-old kid.
In 1963, I began listening to music with a more discerning,
critical ear.
That year, I encountered and lived through my first real
crush on a girl who ultimately married the class cut-up,
whose demeanor was the opposite of her more demure personality.
In the spring of 1963, I first became aware of the power of
a woman's sexuality/sensuality with the disclosure of the
Christine Keeler scandal.
Motown took a leap forward in 1963 with hits by Mary Wells,
Marvin Gaye and Martha and the Vandellas.
Peter Paul and Mary charted with Bob Dylan's "Blowin In the
Wind."
In 1963, I was fortunate enough to hear Ray Charles's "Busted,"
Esther Phillips' "Release Me" and Mongo Santamaria's
"Watermelon Man."
On August 25, rather than play outside with my friends, I
stayed indoors and watched television coverage of a watershed
event in the history of the American civil rights movement;
the mass march on Washington D.C. and Martin Luther King's
"I have a dream" speech.
My favorite Brian Wilson composition, "In My Room" charted
toward the end of 1963.
As a result of an impulsive decision by my dad, on November 25
of that year, I participated in a historic event by attending
JFK's funeral at Arlington National Cemetery. That event taught
me about resiliency, my own and that of the USA.
The day after Christmas 1963, I first heard "I Want To Hold Your
Hand," and knew in my 11-year-old heart and gut that these guys
were going to breathe new and vibrant life into rock 'n roll music,
and revolutionize this relatively young genre forever.
So there you have it. Though marred by the Kennedy assassination,
1963 was indeed a very good year.
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:02:32 -0500
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Re: Rag Dolls
Natasha wrote:
> I'm trying to find Rag Dolls mp3s and other oldies,
> and I'm finding nothing!! Help!!
Natasha, I have a CD copy of "Dusty" which I can send you.
I am also looking for a copy of "Society Girl," the Rag Dolls'
song that preceded "Dusty" and which I first heard on the radio
in the summer of 1964.
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:55:46 -0000
From: Neil Hever
Subject: King's Ransom found!
Popsters, for fans of 60s garage, good news today. I just
received an acetate master of the first three songs recorded
by Allentown's King's Ransom in 1965. This pre-dates their
celebrated folk rocker "Shame" which is well known among garage
collectors. I even have the mother pressing! Apparently, this
was recorded but never released. The songs include the slow
burn punk hate song "Without You" and a killer version of "Ain't
That Just Like Me" which was a song done by the Searchers if I'm
not mistaken. For collectors in this area this is the holy grail
of Pennsylvania garage rock.
Neil Hever
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:06:02 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Felice Bryant; Brother Records; George Freeman; Nedra Ross
Today (Tuesday) marks the passing of Felice Bryant, who with
her husband Boudleaux, wrote hundreds of hits for the Everly
Brothers, Roy Orbison and seemingly countless others. She was
77 and died of cancer.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030422/ap_on_en_mu/obit_bryant_5
has a fuller story, plus a recent and classic picture of Felice
Bryant.
Fun, fun, fun: "Brother Records Inc. on Monday sued former Beach
Boys singer-guitarist Al Jardine for using the band's name when he
tours." Seems only Mike Love can use the group name these days.
Details: http://www.nbc4.tv/entertainment/2150604/detail.html
Some catch-up notes:
Great Emmit Rhodes story
http://users2.ev1.net/~kryan73/emitt/emittstory.html I never knew.
Ian Chapman cites "Down & Out" by George Freeman ("one of the all-
time northern soul big city ballad spine-tinglers"). I'd forgotten
about this excellent record; used to play it on the radio! Who was
George Freeman? Did he record more after - or before - this?
(A Google search turned up a George Freeman who is a jazz guitarist
with half a dozen albums between 1969 and 2001 - is this the same
person?)
And Ian, thanks for the further probe of
http://www.benmclane.com/articles.htm I read the excellent articles
on the Addrisi Brothers (always loved "Cherrystone") and the Cyrkle.
(For those checking out the latter, Don Dannemann has retired from the
jingle business and sold his studio.)
FYI, Phil Reynolds: I went to http://www.blueguitar.com to find out
more about Kal David (the Rhinestones were a huge "local" act in
Connecticut, always packing a club) but the site was under construction.
Is there an alternate URL?
Phil Reynolds again:
> I found an album by Nedra [Talley] Ross from 1978 on New Song/
> Jubilation label - a division of Myrrh, the Christian music label
> in Waco. The album is called "Full Circle."...Christian star (and
> ex-Glass Harp guitarist) Phil Keaggy played a prominent role in
> playing, vocals, and writing.
She also does vocals on a CCM [Christian Contemporary Music] album
credited to Phil Keaggy, "The Courts of the King" (New Song, 1977),
which Ian mentioned. Never heard it. Keaggy is a major figure in CCM;
his early 70s group, Love Song, included Chuck Girard, and had some
really nice Beach Boys-sounding tracks, some without ladling the gospel
message on too heavily (for those of us not born-again).
There is an interesting column by Al Aronowitz, "Left-Wing Jesus Freak?"
http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column6.html about Nedra (a bit)
and her husband, Scott Ross, who was a Christian DJ and went on to Pat
Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network. On a less emotionally-charged
note, there are also some very nice 2002 shots of Nedra - and lots of
other folks - on Mary Wilson's website
http://www.marywilson.com/pictures.htm
Worth checking if you haven't been there yet.)
Albabe:
> I've always loved the "junk" in the middle of "Susan." Psychedelic
> strings and all....[w]orks both ways to me.
I prefer the "junk" in "Susan." Similar in construction: Sagitarrius'
"My World Fell Down," but the marginal nod here goes to junk-free.
By the way, Al, I don't exactly remember "Dawn of Correction," but it
was the right-wing answer to the left-wing "Eve of Destruction." IMO,
not as awful, but just as blunt.
Finally, today is the birthday of Peter Frampton (1950). (Does he feel
like we do?!?)
Country Paul
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:54:00 +0930
From: Norman
Subject: Carter Lewis
Re: Carter-Lewis
I was lucky enough to get a copy of "John Carter - The Essential
Works in The Studios 1963-1982"
JPN : 2001 EM Records EM1012CD (CD)
Japanese Notes by Hiroshi Asada
The tracks listing is as follows;
Skinny Minnie / Carter-Lewis & The Southerners
Your Momma's Out Of Town / Carter-Lewis & The Southerners
Let's Go To San Francisco / Flowerpot Men
You Can Never Be Wrong / Flowerpot Men
Mississippi Lady / Greenback
A Night To Be Remembered / Dawn Chorus
Heavenly Road / Sweet Chariot
Move Out Of Town / Stamford Bridge
The First Day Of Your Life / Stamford Bridge
Hello, Hello, Hello / Stormy Petrel
One More Mile To Freedom / John Carter
The Laughing Man / John Carter & Russ Alquist
Tossing and Turning / Hooters (feat. Elaine Paige)
Dreams Are Ten A Penny / Kincade
Oh, California / Magic
Beach Baby / First Class
Bienvenido / First Class
Singing Your Praises / National Velvet
Sound Of Summer / Starbreaker
Song On The Wind / Circus
Robots Machines And Silicon Dreams / Omega Theatre
Interesting CD to have for fans of Carter-Lewis, and the
harmony pop stuff, but I reckon the 1993 SEQUEL NEX CD 234
release "The Carter-Lewis Story" looks great. I hope that the
new RPM double features as much Carter Lewis and the Southeners
tracks as this CD does.
I have mentioned this site before but it is worth a look if you
like Carter-Lewis related stuff. Hirosi's site on
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/salaryman/asada/
Cheers
Norman
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:39:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Rob Stride
Subject: Re: List of Spector Covers
Natasha McNamee wrote:
> My local library has a 'Wall Of Sound' CD of Phil covers.
> Let me know if you want names and I'll hire it out and send
> the list on.
That's very kind of you Natasha, they would be great. Couldn't
you photocopy the CD cover in the library?.
If there isn't a comprehensive list out there, perhaps I'll
compile one. I've just discovered a live version of "Be My Baby"
by Patti Smith! I just keep finding more and more versions of
Spector songs.
Rob
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:03:31 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Oldies radio - alternatives
Neil Hever wrote:
> I would create an "Alternate Universe" top 40 radio station.
> It would mimic the golden age of top 40 radio but play all
> non-top 40 material. In other words, it would make hits of
> songs that did not make it to the top 40. The station would
> play hundreds of well recognized artists' OTHER songs! I
> think it would be a very exciting thing to do......
......It is and I did. I started a show called "Lost & Found"
on college radio back in the early 80s. We, the original five
DJs (we were on five days a week, still are in fact, but its
staff is overpopulated by AOR junkies and Deadheads) had but
one rule: it could never have been a hit. At first we toyed with
the idea of naming the show "The Flipside of the Followup" but
thought it too precious. So L&F it became. At the time 45s
were in abundance, cheap at yard sales and used record shops.
LPs were recycled as fashions changed musically and they were
usually pretty cheap...rarely was something used over $5.99,
usually less. And 60s pop was widely scorned as the Garage Rock/
Roots of Punk became the thing. I later branched into exclusively
obscure soul, but it was a great few years while it lasted...
JB
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