________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: 1970 Lesley on Crewe From: Patrick Rands 2. Re: Bert Berns & Hoagy Lands From: Brett Berns 3. Clinger Sisters From: Patrick Rands 4. Re: Tony Hatch & Buddy Greco From: Alan Warner 5. Re: Carol Connors From: Martin Roberts 6. Re: Fifth Estate From: Guy Lawrence 7. Re: Sorta girl group From: Mick Patrick 8. Spectropop Remembers From: S'pop Team 9. Re: Stolen Licks From: Roger Smith 10. Re: Sorta girl group From: David Bell 11. Re: Sorta Girl Group From: Jimmy Crescitelli 12. Teddy Bears; Boston Skyline; more From: Country Paul 13. Ellie Greenwich photo From: Mike Rashkow 14. Re: I Wonder/ Katie Kissoon From: Kingsley Abbott 15. Riff-rippin' Doors From: James Cassidy 16. Grandma; democracy From: Mike Edwards 17. Fifth Estate producer From: Bill Reed 18. Linda Laurie as Ambrose From: Phil Milstein 19. Re: I Wonder From: Mikey 20. Re: Art Wayne Acetate From: Artie Wayne 21. Shades Of Grey From: David Parkinson 22. Bert Berns & Van Morrison From: Phil Milstein 23. Re: The one and only Lesley From: Artie Wayne 24. Bert Berns' projects From: Mike Edwards 25. Teddy Bears From: Martin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:28:59 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: 1970 Lesley on Crewe John Frank wrote: > Regarding the 1970 duet: It's credited on the label to "Billy > and Sue", I think. > > Lesley Gore: Quiet Love/Back Together > (Crewe 601, 197?) > > Does anyone know anything about the last single? I only know of > it from a listing in my reference to 45s. Yes you are absolutely right, for some reason the duet 45 was released like that. Who knows why? In regards to the Quiet Love/Back Together 45 - believe it or not that was released under the name "Lesley". No mention of "Gore" on the label. We just discussed this 45 at the Lesley Gore mailing list, and both sides were hosted in the Files section (Back Together is still there). If you ever need any information on Lesley's discography, this link has just about everything: http://www.patswayne.com/lesley/lesdisc.htm (fyi: it's not my website, it's a different Pat than I! The entire site is fantastic, the best LG website). :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:40:00 EDT From: Brett Berns Subject: Re: Bert Berns & Hoagy Lands I would just like to thank everyone for their warm welcome and kind words about my father, especially Mick Patrick, Artie Wayne, Mike Edwards, Martin Roberts, Phil Milstein, Harry Young, Davie Gordon and Country Paul. It is quite a tribute to my dad to find such a quality of kindred spirits expressing so much admiration for his work. It is an exciting time for my siblings and I, as the long-awaited renaissance of Bert Berns' life and music appears to be at hand. With the release of a lovingly crafted tribute compilation produced by Universal Chairman (and close friend to my father) Doug Morris entitled "The Heart And Soul Of Bert Berns," a sea change is in effect. There is little doubt in my mind that this first-ever formal recognition of my father's legacy will serve as a catalyst for his induction into both the Songwriters Hall of Fame and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. As Doug writes in his liner notes to the compilation, Bert Berns "...has been all but ignored by the industry he helped to create. No induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Barely a mention in the major rock and soul anthologies. Somehow, the man's extraordinary contributions as a songwriter, a producer and a clear-eyed music visionary have been overlooked...He is truly the lost titan of the American music business, an important historic figure the world knows little about. It's long past time that his brilliance was recognized." Doug Morris' liner notes are no less than a nomination speech, and an important window into the genius of my father. I am stunned by his love and memory and resolve to see his old friend get his due. So the apple is about to fall from the tree, even though it has taken over thirty-five years to do so. My sister and I run the family publishing business, but we are concentrating now more than ever on pushing our dad's name to center stage, so that he may take his rightful place next to Messieurs Spector, Leiber, Stoller et al. We are currently developing a series of projects, including a feature film biopic, book, stage play, and documentary film. And we anticipate the release of several more record compilations, including a Bang / Shout box, a UK Decca CD [Help us out, Mick!], and a box set of "rare Berns," which I hope will include such tracks as those recently posted to the musica section of this excellent site. Which brings me back to Hoagy Lands. I envy all of you who had the chance to see him perform that last time in the U.K. before his death last year. We actually made a serious effort to find him several years ago, but to no avail. Since his passing, I've spoken to his widow, who told me how happy Hoagy was to experience his own renaissance - thanks to you Brits - just before taking off to that big recording session in the sky (with my dad waiting at the console, I'm sure). It's great to hear that Ace will be putting out a Hoagy Lands CD compilation, but I hope that they go beyond the Laurie output and include the Judi, MGM and Atlantic sides. Now that would be something! And in case they need any extra tracks, I think that I may have found a complete album of Hoagy Lands songs produced by my father called "Give 'Em Soul" (Capitol 1730, 1732, 1733, and 1737). There are four versions of this album, each with a different "Presenter," but I believe that each one is identical to the next. My dad wrote the brilliant liner notes (which I will soon be posting to our website, http://BertBerns.com) and wrote three of the songs included on the LP. But the voice on my copy of "Herman Griffith Presents - Give 'Em Soul" sounds like it's just got to be Hoagy Lands, even though his name is nowhere to be found. Does anyone know anything more about this obscure series of albums? Could this be Hoagy Lands? Long Live Hoagy!! Brett Berns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:51:08 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Clinger Sisters Hello all, I'm still looking for the following Clinger Sisters related material. Can anyone help me? Clinger Sisters Bread and Butter / b-side unknown (Jo-Bee 1002?: 196? - the Jo-Bee label is out of Caniga Park, California and probably produced /written by Lynn Bryson) Rock Flowers Always Call Me Up When You're Lonely /Put A Little Love Away (Wheel 32-0042: 1972) Rock Flowers Don't Give Up On Me, Baby / Double Scoop (Wheel 32-0039: 1972) Brother John Out In The Country / Fluff (A&M 1205: 1970) All songs by PEGGY CLINGER/JOHNNY CYMBAL -artist unknown unless noted: * FEED ME * FLUFF (b-side to Brother John - Out In The Country A&M 1205 : 1970) * HEADS OR TAILS * ONE MORE MILE * PICTURES (aka PICTURE YOU PICTURE ME) * SOMETHING TO BELIEVE * STANDIN IN THE NEED OF LOVE * VOO DOO WOMAN * YOU BETTER THINK IT OVER * ME LOVING YOU (unreleased Partride Family song) I'm also wondering if anyone has any video footage of The Clinger Sisters. I have footage of them performing in the late 1960s as The Clingers, but would also love to see some footage of them when they were younger and performing as the Clinger Sisters (perhaps on the Danny Kaye show). If anyone can help me with information on any of this - please, please let me know. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:55:58 -0700 From: Alan Warner Subject: Re: Tony Hatch & Buddy Greco I was interested to read that Buddy Greco recorded in London in the 1970's mainly because I remember him going over there and recording at EMI's Abbey Road Studios during the previous decade. At that time he was under contract to Epic whose product was released in the early to mid-1960's on EMI's Columbia label in the UK. FYI, other Epic & Okeh artists who had releases via EMI at that time included Walter Jackson, Major Lance, Larry Williams, The Poppies, Nancy Ames, Jane Morgan, George Maharis and Damita Jo. Bobby Vinton was another Epic artist who recorded at Abbey Road (with his American producer, Bob Morgan); in addition, Little Richard cut an explosive, pulsating version of Bobby Marchan's GET DOWN WITH IT ("Well alright everybody...let your hair down"!) along with Fats Domino's & Dave Bartholomew's ROSE MARY backed up by a group of topflight British musicians led by Big Jim Sullivan on a December 12, 1966 session there. Rock on! Alan Warner -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 23:02:16 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Carol Connors Still waiting with great anticipation for the postie to show with the final 5 Carol Connors tracks but Bill has mp3'd "Wingate Square". This leaves only two (possible) Carol related tracks to find, missing are The Story Tellers "I Don't Want An Angel"/Down In The Valley" on Capitol. My feeling is that this group is not the same combination as on Ramarca/Dimension but... Please have another look through your 45s, Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 23:41:34 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Fifth Estate David wrote: > ... the Fifth Estate... Boston Skyline CD is a very good package... One of > the best demos is a Lovin Spoonful -like tune called "No. 1 Hippie On The > Village Scene." Did anyone else record this song? Yes, It was also recorded by Alexander's Rock Time Band who were actually Omaha favourites the Coachmen who had the song and the name change foisted upon them and weren't very happy about it. They later became Professor Morrison's Lollipop under the auspices of Kasenetz and Katz and weren't very happy about that either! The whole story is told in Allan Vorda's book "Psychedelic Psounds" (Borderline). Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:56:20 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Sorta girl group Roger Hollier asked: > St Winifred's School Choir had a hit in the UK in 1980 with > a little ditty called "There's No One Quite Like Grandma". > It got to number 1 and stayed in the charts for 11 weeks. > Does anyone know the name of their second/follow up single > release? I just gotta know. > From the queen of the Midlands, > Roger Hi Roger, my old fruit - the follow-up to those adorable kiddiewinks' smash hit was "Hold Out My Hand" backed with "We Shall Sing His Name", released on Music For Pleasure FP903 in 1981. I won't ask why you need to know (in case it might appear I care, or, worse still, in case you tell me). Is it not an utter irony that this act apppeared on a label of that name? By the way, I still have an 8 by 10 glossy of Phil Spector that you loaned me about a hundred years ago. Perhaps it's time I popped 'round with it? Given the language barrier, do you mind if I spoil your fun and reveal to our non-UK S'pop colleagues that you reside in a lovely place called Nottingham, affectionately known in this country as The Queen Of The Midlands? Too late, I've done it! :-) Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 01:04:02 +0100 From: S'pop Team Subject: Spectropop Remembers Dear Members, As more of our music heroines and heroes pass into that great recording studio in the sky, it is the sad duty of the Team to periodically update the Spectropop Remembers section. Recent additions to this page include: Little Eva Ian Samwell Felice Bryant Nina Simone Please take the time to read these obituaries: http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/ The S'pop Team Spectropop - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:51:11 -0400 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Stolen Licks > Or like Billy Paul stealing a lick from "Secret Love" during > the instro intro to "Me & Mrs. Jones...this could be the start > of a thread. Any other needles? pinza? The Move's "Blackberry Way" which hit #1 in the UK in 1969, borrows its bridge from Harry Nilsson's "Good Old Desk." -- Roger -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:37:38 EDT From: David Bell Subject: Re: Sorta girl group Go and wash your mouth out with soap and water, right away, queen of the Midlands!!! When I think of that awful little girl with the crooked teeth, flyaway ginger hair and lisp, I immediately become clinically depressed. If I ever have a girl like that nauseous lead singer in my class, I swear I'd give up teaching. Peace! David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:58:52 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Re: Sorta Girl Group Man, I'd love to hear "There's No One Quite Like Grandma." I picture a gang of girls, sorta Belles-of-St.-Trinian's-esque, stampeding through the studio wielding hockey stocks. (Assuming the song is a stormer.) Or is it a sentimental ditty ? ==Jimmy== -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 02:10:52 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Teddy Bears; Boston Skyline; more John Frank: > Country Paul: Thanks for the fabulous interview with Carol > Connors that's now on the website! You both seemed to have > a great rapport -- you asked all the right questions and she > gave honest answers.... > > Is there a good Teddy Bears compliation available? I think > it's high time I heard more. I do have some of Carol's solo > releases, and I've heard other Teddy Bears' stuff ... once, > in the far, distant past. The interview makes me want to > listen to them again. I didn't see your post before sending my last dispatch, John; thank you for the kind compliments. (And thanks to Ian Chapman, too.) I think Carol was somewhat amazed at the level of interest in her early work. Remember that she has had a significant level of success in various aspects (especially as a writer) throughout her life, so this period is her long-forgotten teenage roots. Regarding compilations, I have the CD that I mentioned in the interview, Dore 503 (although I think it may be "gray market"), which collects the Imperial album (mostly covers of standards), the Dore and Imperial 45's (more below), and a live performance of "To Know Him...." from a Perry Como TV show (according to Carol). As much as I love "To Know Him...", I think some of Phil Spector's best early writing (and Carol's most appealing and sincere singing) is on the Teddy Bears' neo-romantic Imperial 45's. "Oh, Why" could be Rachmaninoff, as could "You Said Goodbye"; and "If You Only Knew" and "I Don't Need You Anymore" are equally beautiful, if a little less classical. But a word of caution: on this and every other collection, a shorter (by one verse) and abrasive version of "You Said Goodbye" has replaced the far-superior moody take from the 45. I know of no other collection with the "good" single version; can anyone help on this? To my knowledge, this CD has everything the TB's released, except for the original "You Said Goodbye" single; I also know of a rehearsal runthrough of "Where Can You Be," later by Tony and Joe, which is unissued. BTW, I checked out "Dear One" by Carol Collins on musica. I really like it - great kiddie-led doo-wop; but is it Carol Connors? If so, she must be disguising her voice to sound younger - Ms. Collins sounds about 12, and Ms. Collins would have been about 18 at the time. Do we have any clues from the label - publisher, writer(s), arr./prod., etc? I asked Carol Connors if this was her when we talked, but she didn't remember. And, after listening to "Forever Ambrose," how *did* Linda Laurie do the Ambrose voice - and keep it up for whose verses? Artie Wayne wrote: > It's good to hear some stories about Bert Berns. He was one of the most > real people I ever met in the music business. And your recollection is very touching, Artie. Thank you. It's amazing what a "household name" Bert Berns was and how little I knew of him until this thread got going. Thank you all. Bob Rashkow: > "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Back" (sounds like a reunion with my 4th-grade > teacher) is for me a MUST-HAVE!!!! Can anyone recommend it? Go to www.bostonskylinerecords.com - it's Wayne Wadhams' record company. The only two non-classical BosSky albums are this and one by Tracks, a Dartmouth-and Boston-based group c. 1970. "Morning Morning" is on it - the complete track list is at http://www.bostonskylinerecords.com/tracklist.html. Most of BosSky's catalog is reissues of old classical and pipe organ albums! Stolen licks? Stolen melody! Jack Scott's "My True Love" and Duane Eddy's "The Lonely One" are the same melody ont he "A" sections, but of course different tempos. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:17:27 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Ellie Greenwich photo Hello you keepers of the Spectropop gates. Click below to view a photo I came across cleaning out some old files. You might find it interesting. Click on the image to see a larger version, then click again for *full* size: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/lst When Bell Records was in the process of releasing "What Good Is I Love You" by our favorite singer--Ellie Greenwich, which the two of us wrote and produced, I came up with a promotional idea the results of which are shown in the photo. The scene and idea had its roots in the fact that Ellie and I both enjoyed harness racing at the time, and she went to a great deal of trouble to have a custom set of driving colors made as a Christmas gift for me. So, I had the "winner's blanket" made up, arranged for the horse and access to the winner's circle between races and we shot this photo. The copy on the blanket is self explanatory. By the way, to avoid any confusion, that's EG at the horse's head, I'm in the sulky, behind me is Larry Uttal's wife and the other two were the then current promo director and the sales manager for Bell/Amy/Mala--names escape me. It's a fun photo and it did get into the trades as well as being sent out with the promo copies. Any questions? Rashkovsky PS--Later in life I was quite heavily involved in the marketing and advertising of the Standardbred horse breed--those used in harness racing. Owned a few and fooled around with exercising and caring for them. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:50:11 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: I Wonder/ Katie Kissoon I must join the praise for The Crystals 'I Wonder'. It's one of my top 3 Spectors ever - always has been. Such power, and when the strings come in over the top of everything else in the break, when you think there couldn't be any more room in the grooves - my absolute top moment! Katie Kissoon - I believe she may be somewhere near where I live in East Anglia. She did some backgrounds for a little locally issued CD - local as in the next village (glorifying in the name of Garboldisham!) I'll ask Mick The Baker who may very well know a contact route - I'll have to save up for this visit as his Wholemeal bread and Danish Pastries are to die for. Mick has a fine Rock/Soul band called 'What's Going On'. 'Poppers should know such things... Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:24:55 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Riff-rippin' Doors Jimmy B wrote: > Then the Doors ended "Touch Me" with a lick from the Ajax > commercial: "stronger than dirt." ...right after they lifted the melody line from The Kinks' "All Day and All of the Night" for "Hello, I Love You." Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:12:12 -0400 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Grandma; democracy Roger wrote: > St Winifred's School Choir had a hit in the UK in 1980 with > a little ditty called "There's No One Quite Like Grandma". > It got to number 1 and stayed in the charts for 11 weeks. > Does anyone know the name of their second/follow up single > release? I just gotta know. You’ve come to the right place, Roger, as many Spectropoppers are grandparents (or at least waiting for the ‘phone call that says they are to become one). The follow-up, I believe, was: "Hold My Hand"/"We Shall Sing His Name" on Music For Pleasure, FP 903 I don’t think I’ll be playing it to musica, though. Country Paul wrote: > "Democracy - don't you wish we had some?" asks Rob Stride. Agreed, > Rob - lately it seems like Orwell's "1984" wasn't a novel but a > blueprint. Heavier comments than normal for Spectropop. Gentlemen, you must be talking about the US the UK and Australia. France and Germany should not be included as they do have fully functioning democracies and I wish them well with it. 1984 was a blueprint for some reasonably good rock tracks: Spirit, David Bowie, Tina Turner and Billy Squier all put out records that year (or close to it) with that title. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:50:13 -0000 From: Bill Reed Subject: Fifth Estate producer You just never can tell what you'll find at the Goodwill. Yesterday--- IN THE PARKING LOT YET---I made the very latest acquisition to my, um, eclectic LP collection, "Anyone Can Yodel". Nope, it's not the new Stephen Sondheim country musical, but a yodel instruction disc. Unfortunately it isn't by the late, great Judy Canova, but instead by a certain Magnus Bucher, who does not elicit so much as one single hit on google. Even my dry cleaner gets a hit or two! But I digress as is my near-senior status wont. The subject at hand is the Fifth Estate. And so.... A couple of months ago---again--- at the Goodwill I espied a mint lp (circa early 60s) by a jazz singer of whom I had never heard. Charts by the great guitarist Mundell Lowe, good songs, on the Charlie Parker (!) label. The great cheesy retro cover was worth the price --- 50 cents---in and of itself and so I snagged it. Bear with me. . . When I got home and gave it a listen I was astonished, because Gavin was quite good and yet he had seemingly fallen off the edge of the earth never to record again. I had already done a net search a ascertained that this was the only album by Gavin, arguably the best male singer to have ever just given a recording career a single shot (even the late, great Ronnie Deauville had two albums to his credit). A little more net research, though, uncovered the possible reason why we never heaerd from Gavin again. . .at least as a jazz singer. For shortly after the aforementioned album was released, he happened to co-author a little ditty that just may have been one of the most widely heard jingles of all times, the McDonald's "You Deserve a Break Today." Ever after that he remained strictly behind the scenes as a commercial AND record producer (I told you I would circumlocutively get there eventually) OF, among other acts, the Fifth Estate. He also sang backup on most of their recordings. I was suitably intrigued enough to try for a copy of "DD the Witch is Back," but have mostly found it to be "currently unavailable" at the more obvious cyber sites. Meanwhile, Gavin is most likely retired and living in splediferous luxury in some pensione in Gstaad, all off of the gazillions me made from one simple little nursery rhyme-like jingle. Bill Reed www.pinkywinters.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:34:05 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Linda Laurie as Ambrose Country Paul wrote: > And, after listening to "Forever Ambrose," how *did* Linda > Laurie do the Ambrose voice - and keep it up for whose verses? She did it naturally, right in her throat, as demonstrated in a game show appearance she did (I've Got A Secret? To Tell The Truth? What's My Line? It's hard to tell one of those shows from the other) at the time of Ambrose's chart peak. She was still in high school when she made that record. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:07:19 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: I Wonder Regarding the Ronettes' "I Wonder", it's always baffled me why Phil did not hear that as a single. It's better than many of their offical single releases. It most certainly would have been a hit, top 20 for sure. Well, at least we have it now. Mikey out. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Art Wayne Acetate Jeffrey.......Clark.......How ya' doin'? You guys should be detectives!! Yes, I co-wrote "Open Up Your Heart" with Stan Bleiman. He was the lead singer of The Charlotte Rousse, a group Paul Leka produced for my partner Kelli Ross and myself that was released on Fontana. Stan and I are singing on the demo. Thank you for reminding me of the song. This morning I finished compiling a list of copyrights that are reverting to me and I was not only able to include "Open Up Your Heart" [which was covered by the U.S. MALES], but two other songs covered by Abnak artists, "Busy, Busy Bee" by Bobby Patterson and "Just Imagine" by Jon and Robin, which I had completely forgotten about! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:18:14 -0700 From: David Parkinson Subject: Shades Of Grey Hello all: I know that I could probably get answers by trawling the web, but why bother when there is so much expertise on this list? So my question is this: I've been listening to the Sons Of Champlin "Fat City" compilation on Big Beat and truly enjoying "Shades Of Grey", a fantastic Mann-Weil song. Who else recorded this song? Is there a "famous" version of it? And, not a question, but a complaint: why the heck hasn't anyone reissued the soundtrack from "Wild In The Streets" on CD? For that matter, why is the film not available on DVD? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:42:01 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Bert Berns & Van Morrison At the risk of raising a potentially painful subject, I'm wondering if Brett Berns could illuminate the story behind Van Morrison's contract-breaking session for Bang, recently bootlegged by a California label. It is an incredibly dismissive session, just Van on acoustic guitar and vocals, the music virtually interchangeable from one "song" to the next, the lyrics alternating nonsense lines with pointed jabs, barbs and in-jokes. An unspecified "George" (Goldner? Madame?) comes in for especially tough treatment. It's long been well-established that Morrison did not enjoy his stay at Bang -- and this album would certainly prove it -- but I've never heard any particular reasons for his displeasure. The one clue I can divine from the album is a song in which he complains about not getting royalty statements. Any further information on the problems with Van's tenure there would be appreciated. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: The one and only Lesley Steve........How ya' doin'? I haven't heard Lesley Gore's version of "98.6". Could you play it to musica? regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:24:56 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Bert Berns' projects Brett Berns wrote: > We are currently developing a series of projects, including > a feature film biopic, book, stage play, and documentary > film. And we anticipate the release of several more record > compilations, including a Bang/Shout box, a UK Decca CD [Help > us out, Mick!], and a box set of "rare Berns," which I hope > will include such tracks as those recently posted to the > musica section of this excellent site. I had to lie down when I read this. I just became too excited. > It's great to hear that Ace will be putting out a Hoagy Lands > CD compilation, but I hope that they go beyond the Laurie output > and include the Judi, MGM and Atlantic sides. Now that would be > something! There's more! As member Simon White wrote: "How wonderful this all is!" Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:39:02 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Teddy Bears Country Paul wrote: > But a word of caution: on this and every other collection, > a shorter (by one verse) and abrasive version of "You Said > Goodbye" has replaced the far-superior moody take from the 45. And knock me down with a feather...he's right! Thanks CP, guess I should pay more attention! Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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