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There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Van on Bang
From: David Parkinson
2. Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
From: Alan Gordon
3. Stolen Licks
From: Alan Gordon
4. Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
From: Mikey
5. Re: Nut Rocker
From: Andrew Jones
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:46:39 -0700
From: David Parkinson
Subject: Re: Van on Bang
Stewart:
> It's not all bile, though. Among other songs, "You Say France
> and I Whistle" (which continues, naturally, "Okay, now you
> whistle and I'll say France...") and "Ring Worm" are actually
> hilarious. It's certainly of interest to anyone who liked, say,
> "(Let's Dance) The Screw."
If anyone is interested in hearing three of these, you can find
them at http://www.otisfodder.com/365days/archive/064.html
(comprising "Ring Worm", "You Say France And I Whistle", and
"Want A Danish"). This site is a wonderful and occasionally
scary one-a-day dose of outsider weirdness. Definitely worth
perusing the archives or hitting it regularly to see what's new,
since it is updated every day.
David
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:20:43 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
Mikey:
>Yes, I do. My friend Steve Massie did the audio transfers.
> It's all the 1961-62 Challenge Records material. There are
> some remixed tracks from the multi-tracks. Steve says that the
> sound is AMAZING, that the tapes were in perfect shape and they
> got very clean digital transfers.....
>I'm going to try and get this tonight, actually.
Hey Mikey: I've never heard any of this stuff. Please let us
know if the material is good/fun.
albabe
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:16:00 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Stolen Licks
From: Steve Harvey
> I think there is a difference between "referencing" another
> tune and stealing the melody or lyrics to
> basically rewrite the same song with your own name as a writer.
> Harrison got sued for a good reason. "My
> Sweet Lord" reminded me of "He's So Fine right off the bat.
Steve sir:
But there's a huge distance between those two parameters.
Like when, instrumental "licks" are ripped off note for note,
but the melody might be nothing like the "original."
Mistra you're a better man than I... certainly in terms of
melody. While I absolutely agree that the songs are "chordaly"
and melodically inseparable - at the time I thought "My Sweet
Lord" was a rip off of "Oh Happy Day," which George admitted
in court was the song he was trying to steal. It's amazing he
didn't then get sued by the "Oh Happy Day" writers at that point.
I think "My Sweet Lord" and "He's So Fine" are so dissimilar in
terms of production that they really are separate songs. And I
believe Harrison when he says that he did it subconsciously...
just my loose opinion.
>...Unlike Lennon, who did the same thing in Come Together, he
> did not get sued.
Actually Lennon was "threatened" by Morris Levy (publisher of
Chuck Berry's stuff). That started the whole "Oldies" album
debacle, which was supposed to be remuneration to Levy for Lennon's
swiping Berry's lyrics. I never liked the official, or TV released
"bootlegged" Oldies album, but after hearing the remixes and
outtakes from those sessions on the 4 cd Lennon Box Set of rarities,
I absolutely LOVE the new versions. If you're a Lennon fan, this
box set is a must!
> The Drifters are just reminding their fans of "Up On the Roof" in
> Boardwalk. I always thought it was a clever marketing bit.
There is a great song by Smokey and the Miracles from '62: "I'll
Try Something New." Smokey sings: "I will take you away with me
as far as I can. To Venus or Mars." Then the background voices
sing the three note melody, "Hey Ve-nus," from "Venus" by Frankie
Avalon. Cute, and kinda sexy to me. Just listening to it now.
What a voice.
peace,
albabe
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:42:53 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
Alan Gordon:
> Hey Mikey: I've never heard any of this stuff. Please let us
> know if the material is good/fun.
Will do!! the release date has been pushed back to June 6th however.
Mikey
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: Re: Nut Rocker
Great article by Al Hazan about his work on "Nut Rocker".
However, in two places,I've seen one Fred Richards credited
as the pianist on that record. Pseudonym? Or did someone get
confused?
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