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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. NY Reuters report - Rod McKuen Ends Exile, Gains New Purpose
From: Neb Rodgers
2. Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
From: Alan Gordon
3. Donna Marie Interview In No Kind Of Superstar #4
From: No Kind of Superstar
4. Re: Stolen Licks
From: Artie Wayne
5. Release days of CDs
From: Delila Lacevic
6. Re: Gary Zekley
From: Artie Wayne
7. Re: Dirty Water - The Boston Rock & Roll Museum
From: Steve Harvey
8. Music law
From: Alan Gordon
9. June Carter/Beach Boys/Letter to Dad/Stolen "Kicks"
From: Bob Rashkow
10. Re: Teri Nelson Group
From: Louis
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neb Rodgers
Subject: NY Reuters report - Rod McKuen Ends Exile, Gains New Purpose
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=2759545
Wow... I haven't seen Rod McKuen's name mentioned in years...
glad to see he's still around.
-Neb
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:15:38 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
Mikey wrote:
> ...the release date has been pushed back to June 6th however.
Now that's a neat trick. I saw it last weekend at Amoeba Music
in Oakland Ca.
best dishes,
albabe
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:39:55 -0000
From: No Kind of Superstar
Subject: Donna Marie Interview In No Kind Of Superstar #4
Donna Marie was signed to Columbia in the 1960s and also
appeared on a couple of the Archies' singles. The latest
issue of my punk, garage, psych and power pop zine No Kind
Of Superstar includes a rare interview with her (the only
other one I'm aware of was conducted by Don Charles several
years ago). There's also stuff on the Third Rail and the
Banana Splits, plus loads of off-topic articles I won't
mention here. You get 56 A4 pages/glossy cover. If you'd
like a copy, please send £1.00 (UK), 04 IRCs (Europe) or 5
IRCs (rest of the world) to No Kind Of Superstar, PO Box 274,
Wakefield WF1 2UG, England.
I'm also looking for contributors, so please get in touch
if you're curious.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Stolen Licks
Steve..... Alan...... I'm afraid John Lennon did get sued
for "Come Together". Not only did Morris Levys' publishing
company...... Tommy James and his co-writer get half of the
copyright [I don't know the title of their original song].
As part of the settlement John Lennon agreed to record several
songs in Morris' catalog......hence the "Rock and Roll" album.
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 05:08:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Delila Lacevic
Subject: Release days of CDs
Dave Feldman:
> And are there uniform days for releases in other
> parts of the world? Any thoughts or referrals
> would be mucho appreciated.
I remember this coming into line sometime in the
70s, but I can't say exactly when - seems like it
happened over time, distributor by distributor.
As to why Tuesday, that's because it's the easiest
day in which to guarantee delivery by . . . most
shipments come UPS or a non-Postal Service method,
and these companies don't deliver normally on the
weekends. So a Thursday or Friday shipment will
get there usually by Monday, or Tuesday at the
latest. To be honest, the labels would probably
prefer Monday - it would give them one extra day
of selling time in the week to push the numbers
for big releases higher. But it's tough to
guarantee that all the stores would get the
releases prior early enough on Monday. The big
idea is that no one sells a new release before
it's officially Tuesday. It also makes it
easier to track down stores who are violating
this no-sales-before-Tuesday rule to have it
always be the same day. They can't say they
"forgot". (Punishment is rarely dealt out, but
I do know stores that lost a few days of sales
on big releases as a result. So most stores
don't think it's worth it.)
Why the UK and much of Europe has Monday is
beyond me. Perhaps the smaller geographic
area makes Monday deliveries more of a sure thing.
I seem to recall Japan having Thursday or Friday
as the big day, but can't recall for sure.
Dee
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 08:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Gary Zekley
Jeff......How ya' doin'?
On my first trip to Hollywood Gary Zekley, Mitch Bottler
and I co-wrote two songs on the Clique album, "Ain't No Such
Thing As Love" and "Hallelujah" [which later became a top 30
hit by Sweathog]. Then we got together with Richard Baskin
and wrote the novelty song "Knock, Knock" in one session. We
all were all that positive we had a hit song..........I raced
back to New York and booked a session as fast as I could!!!
We called the group Boys and Girls Together ......used some of
Joey Levine's session musicians and included the voices of
Howard Boggess, Sissy Spacek, Edie Baskin, my partner Kelli
Ross and myself.
While we were in the studio mixing, Gary Zekley called from
L.A. and I played it for him on the phone. He loved it and
admitted he was about to cut it himself but after hearing ours
he changed his mind. Charlie Fach, who had just started Intrepid
records after a spectacular career at Smash records [Roger Miller
...Bruce Channel] picked the master up for costs and rush
released it.
That's all I remember........
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 10:15:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Dirty Water - The Boston Rock & Roll Museum
Something to do even if you "have to be in by 12
o'clock".
http://www.dirtywater.com/
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 11:52:34 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Music law
Phil Chapman on stolen licks.....
Great friggin dissertation, Phil. Lotsa thoughtful information!
> Isn't this the crux of the whole plagiarism issue?
Absolutely. And as I said, my thoughts were a "loose opinion."
Who am I to make these decisions? That's left to law lobbyists
and profiteering politicians.
The only thing you didn't exactly hit on was the basis of said
"law." I've read a bit on some of this. The trouble is that a
lot of "writers" who have done articles about music law in music
publications like "Crawdaddy" and others, have put their own
slant on things, as per usual. It's like the news reporting
science... it's mostly a convoluted joke that's been pabulum
-ized for the uninformed/uneducated masses.
Sometimes a little PBS can be a bad thing.
> I also think the law is interpreted differently depending in
> which country the case is brought.
Some friends and I started a comics company a decade or so ago
and I had the interesting opportunity to delve fairly deeply
into copyright law. We got so screwed by foreign countries'
publication "law." We found out that there is no way you can
hold anyone from a foreign country to the rules of a copyright
contract they signed, unless you have lotsa money or are a friend
of the Shrub Plutocracy.
The law, in most places on the planet is based on the of "tablets
of hammurabi."
http://www.womeninworldhistory.com/lesson2.html
These are more "precepts" than hard rules. The laws, in general,
aren't stiff - they are more malleable than most people think,
and are a reflection of the society's attitudes, opinions and
such at a particular time. Precedence, the whim of the supposed
lofty knowledgeable judge, or the wind that blows through the
minds of a jury of supposed peers, are the usual cornerstones
of what is eventually decided. Mostly, it's based on opinion.
My lawyer has a "great" attitude about the law... he thinks of
it as having very little to do with morals or ethics. It's
usually commerce.
> Wasn't there an interesting case where Huey Lewis claimed
> Ray Parker's "Ghostbusters" was a rip-off of "I Want A New
> Drug..?"
I had heard that the judge had decided in favor of Huey because
Huey had been approached before Ray Parker by the Ghostbusters
people to write and perform them a new song "...just like 'I Want
A New Drug.'" They apparently said the same thing to Ray.
Of course this could be apocryphal.
Thanx for your post.
peace,
albabe
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:52:41 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: June Carter/Beach Boys/Letter to Dad/Stolen "Kicks"
NPR had Terry Gross' interview with the late June Carter
from 1987 I think it was, and she had recorded a solo LP of
Carter Family and June-Johnny stuff. She played her own
version of "Ring of Fire". June was in her late 60s at the
time, and she sang her own song with quite a lot of feeling
and that little touch of country that she and Cash were known
for collectively.
The Beach Boys should definitely have a place in FA&F. Almost
everything they took on between 1966 and 1970 or so was an
astounding departure from their earlier music. Brian, Carl,
Dennis and Mike all, each in their own way, in spite of all
the problems, happily embraced the sunshine pop era,
incorporating some terrific flower-power effects using numerous
instruments, especially that blessed organ and sitars. (They
also became more playful and free-spirited--I've always admired
how far they were seemingly willing to go on tunes like "Little
Pad" and "She's Goin' Bald," to mock their previous efforts
good-naturedly!)
Has anybody heard or do they remember "A Letter To Dad" by Every
Father's Teenage Son (Buddah, '67)? I haven't--but I would kill
for that record, being an intense collector of answer records.
More stolen licks: Boyce & Hart on "I Wonder What She's......2"
"yah-la-la-la-la-la" already used by the Raiders in "Hungry."
Did The Beatles borrow "Nah, nah nah nah," etc. in "A Day in
the Life" from the original version of "Hush" (Jackie Edwards
if I'm not mistaken, popular only in England) or did Deep Purple
take it away from the Beatles on THEIR version??!! At any rate,
it could be another example.
....Bobster
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:59:44 -0000
From: Louis
Subject: Re: Teri Nelson Group
Guy Lawrence wrote:
> Teri Nelson, Mary Thomas, Barbara Alston, Betty Cooper,
> Ona Lee ... At least one of those names rings a bell.
Hi Guy,
I am very much into this type of girl group sound, disco,
Euro Disco, Motown, Holland Dozier Holland, Cameo/Parkway,
Phil Spector, soul, rhythm & blues, northern soul, and
bubblegum music especially (no negative connotations implied.)
Now that I know that it is similar to "Simon Says," I will
try to listen to the music of 1910 Fruitgum Company and any
others I can find.
Do you know Chee Chee and Peppy on Buddah records? They are
fantastic also. Any other recommendations for me?
I also love Silver Convention (Dance Bunny Honey, Acuestate
Con Migo, Telegram), the Marvelettes (Seeing is Believing and
Rainy Mourning), Martha Reeves and the Vandellas (Bless You,
Love Bug Leave My Heart Alone, I Can't Dance to That Music
You're Playing, Tear It On Down,) Patty Duke, Donna Loren,
Sandie Shaw, Laura Lee, the Honey Cone, Tina Charles, Polly
Brown, Abba, Diana Ross & the Supremes, the 70s Supremes,
Gloria Jones, the Orlons, Dee Dee Sharp, the Three Degrees,
Kim Weston, Brenda Holloway, Sisters Love, Archies, Partridge
Family, Limmie and the Family Cooking, Roberta Kelly, the
Chocolates, Xuxa, Timbiriche, Flans and Boney M among
others.
By the way Mary Thomas and Barbara Alston were in the Crystals.
My website, The Girl Groups Fan Club, is at
http://surf.to/girlgroups and I plan on redoing it soon.
I am looking for any and all suggestions on content and format
and redoing it.
Thanks,
Louis
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