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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Nino Tempo
From: S'pop Team
2. Re: Little Eva's alternate world
From: Mick Patrick
3. Re: lack of appreciation
From: David Mirich
4. Re: Brian Wilson - lack of appreciation
From: Andrew Hickey
5. Re: Little Eva's alternate world
From: James Botticelli
6. Re: Bert Berns and the Keetch Label
From: Mick Patrick
7. The Critters
From: James Botticelli
8. Brian Wilson and the east coast
From: Stuart Miller
9. Coca Cola Commercials CD
From: David Coyle
10. Re: Carol Connors
From: Mick Patrick
11. Mickie Most, RIP
From: Mark Wirtz
12. Re: Carol Connors
From: Martin Roberts
13. PMS pressings; Manfred vs. Springsteen; "Cool Shake" jingle; soundalikes
From: Country Paul
14. Re: The Chanter Sisters
From: No Kind Of Superstar
15. Re: Mickie Most, RIP
From: Mick Patrick
16. Geator with the Heator, the Big Boss with the Hot Sauce
From: Good Fella
17. Nino Tempo / Rinky Dink / Feeling No Pain
From: Phil Milstein
18. Re: The Vogues - Five O'Clock World
From: Billy G. Spradlin
19. Re: Mickie Most, RIP
From: James Botticelli
20. Re: The Critters
From: Richard Havers
21. Re: Mickie Most, RIP
From: Mick Patrick
22. Steve Kipner and Steve Groves
From: Norman
23. The Liquid Room 5/25/03
From: David Ponak
24. Re: Carol & Cheryl
From: Ken Silverwood
25. Mickie Most
From: Austin Powell
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:49:19 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: Nino Tempo
New At S'pop
Bagpipes, Boys Town And Other Deep Purple Productions
The Nino Tempo Interview
by Bill Reed
An exclusive interview with the one and only Nino Tempo is the
latest installation at S'pop. Originally a child actor, and a
jazz saxophonist at heart, Tempo and his sister April Stevens
scooped a Grammy in 1963 for their unique interpretation of
"Deep Purple". Having played on a slew of Phil Spector-produced
classics as a member of the legendary Wrecking Crew, he went on
to record some of the most talked about "Wall Of Sound" epics
ever committed to magnetic tape.
http://www.spectropop.com/NinoTempo/index.htm
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
Spectropop - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:46:19 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Little Eva's alternate world
Simon White:
> Can some kind soul tell us what alternate versions of Little
> Eva tracks were released and in what form? I think Mr Patrick
> put at least one on a CD comp.
David A. Young:
> ...the 1988 Murray Hill LP "The Best of Little Eva", included an
> alternate version of "Wake Up John" and the first-ever release
> of "Get Him". These were also included on the Collectables CD of
> the same title. The 1995 UK compilation CD "Here Come the Girls 7:
> The Trouble With Boys" features the same two songs but both appear
> here in different takes than on Murray Hill. Somewhere in the early
> '80s, there was a British 12" single that featured an extended mix
> of the original "The Loco-Motion", not an alternate take per se,
> but a re-editing that lengthened the track for the dance floor...
Simon:
> Thanks to Mr David A Young for all his info on Eva's alternate
> world. I have a feeling that there's more to come...
Mr White, I concur with Mr Young regarding the alternate versions of
Little Eva's "Wake Up John" and "Get Him", and that dodgy 12" single.
Additionally, I can report that the track "The Loco-Motion" exists in
two alternate versions - one with handclaps, the other without.
The original 1962 single features the "with handclaps" mix - they kick
in just before Eva sings "You gotta swing your hips now". This version
is contained on the CD "Girls Will Be Girls, Vol 2: Beyond The Valley
Of The Dimension Dolls" (Westside WESM 608).
The CD "L L L L Little Eva! The Complete Dimension Recordings"
(Westside WESM 512) features the "without handclaps" version. I'm not
sure if this earlier mix of the song was ever available on vinyl.
As you know, Eva died a few months ago. There's an obituary available
at S'pop Remembers: http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/LEobit.htm
And I've just posted a nice big (and I'm talking BIG!) picture of the
little miss to S'pop's members page. Go to the photos section:
http://www.spectropop.com/go2/members.html
The next volume of "Where The Girls Are" will contain Little Eva's
"Sugar Plum", a previously unissued cut. The track is rattling my
rafters as I type.
Mr Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 05:37:15 -0600
From: David Mirich
Subject: Re: lack of appreciation
> ...The Brian Wilson NJ gig just got cancelled due to lack of ticket sales
This is what I was worried about, as far as a possible Smile tour in the US.
In the UK Brian could sell out all the shows he'd care to play. But back
home, even with the whole orchestra, he couldn't sell out even half of the
very medium sized Magnus Arena at the University of Denver for the terrific
Pet Sounds tour. This is why the newly freed Arthur Lee and his new Love
has an extensive tour in Europe and only a few East and West coast dates in
the US....we just don't appreciate these people the way we should. Meanwhile,
Jimmy Buffett and Neil Diamond can pack in huge arenas as can the (gulp
Eagles. It just doesn't seem fair...
Dave Mirich
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:11:02 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson - lack of appreciation
> In the UK Brian could sell out all the shows he'd care to play.
Very true - he's selling huge numbers for the Smile tour, even almost a
year in advance...
> This is why the newly freed Arthur Lee and his new Love has an
> extensive tour in Europe and only a few East and West coast dates in
> the US....we just don't appreciate these people the way we should.
To be fair, while Lee's shows are all selling out over here, while he's
been playing a *few* large venues like the Royal Festival Hall a *LOT*
of the venues he's playing are small to medium size club venues -
Manchester Academy holds about 1000-1500 people and he's played
there twice, and Crewe Limelight can't hold more than a couple of
hundred at a push.
I think in the case of Lee he could easily sell out the kind of places
he's playing over here if he played them in the US, but I think he's very
disillusioned with the US - his new song My Anthem which he was playing
at the January gigs this year goes "Bye, America, bye bye bye/You
made me love you then you made me cry" and goes on about how much
better England and Scotland are.
While I think he *is* more appreciated over here to an extent (see the
early day motion in the House Of Commons last year where Parliament
voted that "This House believes that Forever Changes by Love is the
greatest rock album ever and advises people to go and see Arthur Lee
on his tour of the UK") I don't think that's why he's playing over here
more - I think he's just sick of the US.
But the Brian Wilson thing amazes me - I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
This is a man who should be selling out any venue he plays the day
tickets go on sale...
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:03:32 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Little Eva's alternate world
Mick Patrick wrote:
> The next volume of "Where The Girls Are" will contain Little Eva's
> "Sugar Plum", a previously unissued cut. The track is rattling my
> rafters as I type.
Mick et al...Are you aware of Little Eva's take on "Get Ready" blended
with "Uptight"? A nicety slab of southern soul and it popped up on a Brit
comp of Spring/Event Records if my recollective powers beyond 1972
function in any capacity.
JB
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:25:12 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Bert Berns and the Keetch Label
Original Message From Brett Berns:
> The four Keetch records that I'm aware of are:
> 6000 The Pussycats Mickey Mouse Club March
> 6001 Linda Laurie Jose He Say / Chico
> 6002 The Mustangs Baby Let Me Take You Home / Davie Was A Bad Boy
> 6003 The Pussycats You May Be Holding My Baby / Come On And Ska
Me:
> The other side of Keetch 6000 is "Anniversary Of Love"
Hi Brett,
In the interests of accuracy, I should report that a flurry of off-list
emails have thrown up some new information. I am reliably informed that
the group which recorded "Anniversary Of Love" and "Mickey Mouse March"
was, in fact, a male outfit, not a girl group. Furthermore, the record
was released on the Keyman (or/and Kelmar) label, not Keetch, and has
no Bert Berns connection whatsoever.
Brett:
> I do not even know who the singers were of this beautiful lost
> treasure ("You May Be Holding My Baby"), nor why it fell so deep into
> obscurity. But it remains one of my all-time favorite songs written
> and produced by Bert Berns.
The Lou Christie and Pussycats versions of "YMBHMB", considering their
close chronology, are remarkably different. One can't help but wonder
how the unissued Solomon Burke rendition compares. Has anyone heard it?
Mick Patrick
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:05:54 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: The Critters
For the experts among us...Any and all info on The Critters would be most
helpful....Below is an exchange I had with a friend. We both need
clarification please.
>> Don't know much about Critters other than they also had a minor hit
>> with "Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me" which I have, and thought of
>> them as Kapp, not Project 3 guys.
> on Kama Sutra originally....wasn't that a Buddha subsidiary. 'Dont Let
> the Rain' was their last 'hit' in '67; allmusicguide says leader Don
> Ciccione was drafted, band without him continued with 2 albums on Project
> 3. This would be same time as Free Design records. Maybe someone on your
> sunshine pop list knows about these.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:25:09 +0100
From: Stuart Miller
Subject: Brian Wilson and the east coast
Gentlemen.
I think we're forgetting our history. The Beach Boys were never that strong in
the New Jersey area in the first place. And for that matter The Beatles
weren't either as compared to other states. This was the very heartland of 4
Seasons blue collar support and as far as most Jerseyites were concerned, those
blue eyed wonders from the west coast could shove their surfboards in the one
place where the blessed sun didn't shine.
By the time that generation grew up into middle age the BB's were largely
finished as a chart act and there was no new audience to follow on.
Nevertheless I share your sentiments. It's a great, great pity and the
residents of the garden state should hold their heads in shame.
Stuart
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Coca Cola Commercials CD
I'm glad to hear there are some missing tracks on that
CD, and that it's not just a flub on my disc.
Regarding the Pepsi ad, it's actually listed on the CD
as sort of a bonus track...otherwise, all the spots on
the CD are for Coke, mostly variations on the "Things
go better with Coca-Cola, things go better with
Coke..." jingle performed in each group's signature
style, e.g. Freddie and the Dreamers based on "I'm
Telling You Now."
Tom Jones's Coke spots are almost as good as his
actual songs.
David
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 19:08:01 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Carol Connors
Carol Connors at http://www.spectropop.com/CarolConnors/index.htm:
> ...I remember a day in New York. We were in an elevator - Phil
> (Spector), Marshall (Leib) and I - and who walked in but Fidel
> Castro; his brother, Raul; and Che Guevara; and their bodyguards
> - they had just come out of the United Nations on their way to
> leaving the country. And we're in the elevator making funny faces
> in back of him!...
Strictly in the interests of complete sarcasm and historical
inaccuracy, I'd like to challenge the provenance of Miss Connors'
statement regarding her chance encounter with the great Cuban leader.
Weren't Fidel Castro and Che Guevara in Hamburg having dinner with
the Beatles that day?
Seriously, I remember reading somewhere that Carol and her sister,
in addition to recording for Colpix as Carol & Cheryl, released a
single as the Carmel Sisters, "Joey's Comin' Home" bw "The Rumour"
(Jubilee 5464, 1963). Could someone confirm, or otherwise? Perhaps
one among us owns this disc?
Go to the S'pop members photos section for a cool image of the
delicious CC: http://www.spectropop.com/go2/members.html
Mick Patrick
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 19:59:21 -0000
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Mickie Most, RIP
It is with great shock and sadness that I read the announcement of Mickie
Most's passing. Mickie was arguably the most professionally astute and
market savvy record producer in UK pop music history, his nigh clairvoyant
skill of spotting potential Star talent and hit material only equaled by
US counter part Clive Davis.
Mickie Most made his most profound impression on me when, utterly
contradicting his mercenary image, he picked up a 45, held it up and said,
with the most sincere and passionate expression on his face, " Records...
You know what they are? Canned emotions. That's what they are. Canned
emotions." That simple truth has remained indelibly etched in my mind and
heart ever since.
With infinite respect for a maverick, whose legacy will resonate for
decades to come,
Mark Wirtz
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 22:19:09 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Carol Connors
Mick Patrick wrote;
> Seriously, I remember reading somewhere that Carol and her sister,
> in addition to recording for Colpix as Carol & Cheryl, released a
> single as the Carmel Sisters, "Joey's Comin' Home" bw "The Rumour"
> (Jubilee 5464, 1963). Could someone confirm, or otherwise? Perhaps
> one among us owns this disc?
For lovers of steam trains, the shrill whistle, combined with the
loudest train noises this side of Kansas City, make this record a simply
must have! I'd forgotten how good it is and that it's a supposed
Carol Connors record. If it is, all the Ramarca/Dimension team of Carol,
Cheryl and Steve Barri are (allowing for the male voice) most probably
involved. Both sides are written & produced by Clasky-Rosenberg (The
Safaris' - "Image Of A Girl"). As the title suggests, it's a "gone away
to serve in the army" song which would be suitable for the faux Shans
comp. For those of you who don't wish to know the ending; Is he coming
home? Turn away now......he ain't.
Martin
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:01:29 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: PMS pressings; Manfred vs. Springsteen; "Cool Shake" jingle; soundalikes
Billy G. Spradlin:
> One thing I noticed about Philips/Mercury/Smash records from the 60's is
> the majority of their 45's and LP's had machine-stamped matrix numbers in
> the dead wax - my guess these records were mastered by the record company.
> (Same with most Columbia/Epic product)
Also worth noting about Philips/Mercury/Smash albums c. '65-'68 is that they
often used the exact same pressing - the stereo pressing - and sold them in
different mono & stereo sleeves! (At least this was true for the DJ copies
we got.)
Steve Harvey:
> I always thought that the Manfreds did a wonderful version of "Blinded by
> the Light", never thought it was all that slick, but clever. Having the tune
> buildand build only to have it climax....I feel Manfreds did a great job
> instead of just redoing a soundalike version.
Agreed completely - I've always believed in bringing something new to a song
if you're going to redo it. This definitely worked.
Clark Besch:
> ...all those great 60's commercial jingles and if any are available....
> Some artists did jingles for radio station call letters. 4 Seasons did
> Joey Reynold's WXYZ jingle as well as one for Cousin Brucie at WABC.
...and also Joey Reynolds on WBKW, arguably the most famous version with
their 20+ state coverage during his evening show.
One jingle I'm still looking for: a canned milk shake ("malted" to some,
"cabinet" if you live in Rhode Island) called Cool Shake (same name as, but
not same song as, the Del Vikings' Mercury record; the product is unrelated
to Great Shakes). I don't think a "known" artist did the jingle, but I
remember it being as catchy as the flu. Its lyrics:
"Foams up like soda fountain shakes do
When you pour yourself a Cool Shake
Thick and rich and foamy too
Wow, that's a Cool Shake!"
...followed by a cookin' little track for the voice-over. So, anyone got a
copy - please? (And why do I remember this so well when I haven't heard it
in over 40 years?!?!?)
Albabe on soundalike songs:
> at least a gazillion others [I-VI-IV-V chord doo-wop songs] with that
> feel and identical changes.
Indeed. We can go to a "reducto ad absurdum" level, like saying all blues
songs are the same because they use the same three-chord 12-bar pattern. But
the conscious melodic or "hook" theft is fascinating. Another one just came
to mind: Jack Scott's 1958 smash "My True Love" and Duane Eddy's (1960?)
instrumental hit "The Lonely One." Scott's was a very slow 6/8 and Eddy's
was a cha-cha, but the melody of the verse is identical.
Steve Harvey:
> Wasn't it Don and Dewey who did "What's Your Name?" "Sleepwalk" was Santo
> and Johnny's hit.
Actually, it was Don & Juan, on Bigtop. (And her name was
"Shoo-be-doo-bop-ba-dah"!) "Sleepwalk" was, I think, the first rock-oriented
record to have a steel guitar lead.
Country Paul
(eagerly awaiting the NYC party - y'all come, y'hear?)
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 22:02:19 -0000
From: No Kind Of Superstar
Subject: Re: The Chanter Sisters
Ian Chapman:
> Nice to see the UK's Chanter Sisters mentioned here. I first
> switched on to them via their Ellen Foley-meets-Spector version of
> "Halfway To Paradise" in '76, (produced by Roger Cook and now playing
> at musica).
Back in 2001 I interviewed the legendary session guitarist Big Jim
Sullivan. One of the records I brought along to show him was a See
For Miles comp called "Decade Of Instrumentals: 1959-1967". One of
the tracks that really grabbed me on that album was the Bo
Diddleyesque "Grumbling Guitar" by the Other Two. Big Jim was adamant
that it was the Chanter Sisters' studio debut, even though the liner
notes mention Carol Attwood and Jemima Smith. Is his memory playing
tricks with him?
By the way, That Will Never Happen Again has been a big influence on
my zine. It's great to see you and Mick Patrick as regular posters
here.
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:16:42 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Mickie Most, RIP
Mark Wirtz:
> It is with great shock and sadness that I read the announcement of
> Mickie Most's passing. Mickie was arguably the most professionally
> astute and market savvy record producer in UK pop music history...
> With infinite respect for a maverick, whose legacy will resonate for
> decades to come.
C4 news just ran an item on the passing of Mickie Most. Running under
the report, complete with sound, was RSG footage of Lulu performing
"Shout", a recording with which Mickie Most had no involvement
whatsoever. How typical of the shoddy work we are constantly fed by
the media. Hopefully, the UK broadsheets will give the great man the
respect he deserves.
Mick Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 22:29:50 -0000
From: Good Fella
Subject: Geator with the Heator, the Big Boss with the Hot Sauce
I spent last night at Memories Nite Club in Ventnor NJ, just a
10 minute ride from Atlantic City NJ. Owner and DJed by Jerry
Blavat, better know as the "Geator with the Heator, the Big Boss
with the Hot Sauce", really keeps you dancing with music from the
50's, 60's with lots of Motown, and later on with Disco. The
place Rocks. For a $5 cover you can Rock the nite away, and keep
on rocking cause you only rock once, as the Geator says.
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:56:51 -0700
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Nino Tempo / Rinky Dink / Feeling No Pain
A few miscellaneous items:
* Congratulations and thank you to Bill Reed for his excellent Nino
Tempo article. My only reservation is that he didn't get Nino to comment
about his sister at all.
* Does anybody know anything about the origins of the tune "Rinky Dink,"
the source of Dave Baby Cortez's 1960 hit? I recently returned from the
cultural oasis of Branson, Missouri, where I saw a brilliant lounge
organist named Jimmy Nicholas, who claimed that he wrote that song, as
well as another Cortez hit "The Happy Organ," when he was 14 years old.
Besides being a great keyboardist Nicholas was also an engaging
humorist, and it was hard to tell when he was being serious and when he
was pulling the audience's leg, but when he told that story he seemed
like he was being sincere. But I'm wondering if there's any
corroborating evidence. The only copies of either recording that I own
are on cheesy anthologies, which lack songwriting credits.
* Can anybody set me up with a copy of The Del Satins' Dion-composed (and
produced?) record "Feeling No Pain"? If so, please contact me off-list.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 00:24:44 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: The Vogues - Five O'Clock World
Richard Havers:
> I have two versions of 'Five O'Clock World' by the Vogues on CD. One
> with strings (on a compilation) and one without (on their Greatest
> Hits). They are clearly two different versions, not overdubbed strings.
> The 'with strings' sounds later. Am I correct in assuming it was a 70s
> German re-record or similar?
I think the overdubbed strings and horns were done in the late 60's
for a greatest hits LP. I have the overdubbed version of "Five O
Clock World" on a Warners Special Products CD called "More Party
Classics".
I guess someone at Reprise (or maybe the group) thought the original
Co&Ce recordings were underproducted, or didnt want to use fake
stereo for that album.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 21:14:56 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Mickie Most, RIP
Mark Wirtz wrote:
> It is with great shock and sadness that I read the announcement of Mickie
> Most's passing.
His production of "Is It True" by Brenda Lee was the song that got me into
her singing....What else did he do??
JB/Yank in need of nolejj
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:03:48 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: The Critters
James Botticelli wrote:
> For the experts among us...Any and all info on The Critters would be
> most helpful....Below is an exchange I had with a friend. We both need
> clarification please.>
These are my notes on the Critters.....Any changes and updates welcome.
The Jugband influenced Critters hailed from New Jersey and got together
during ’64. Founded by guitarists Jim Ryan and Don Ciccone who attended
high school together in Plainfield, included their school friend Kenny
Gorka on bass along with Jack Decker on drums and Brooklyn Boy Chris
Darway on organ. They began by playing neighbourhood clubs before they
signed for Kapp in 1965 through a production deal with Karma Sutra.
The Critters debut single was, Jackie de Shannon's 'Children &
Flowers', which paved the way for their hit, a cover of The Lovin'
Spoonful's 'Younger Girl' written by John Sebastian, it went to No.42
in the States and No.38 in Britain. 'Younger Girl' proved to be their
only UK hit, but in America Ciccone's beautiful 'Mr. Dieingly Sad' got
to No.17 in the autumn of ’66. Their final release of ‘66 was 'Bad
Misunderstanding', written by Pete Anders and Vinnie Poncia who had
written and recorded as The Videls and The Tradewinds. In ’67, and
calling themselves Innocence, Anders and Poncia took a Ciccone song
'There's Got To Be A Word' to No.34 in the US; while The Critters sole
hit that year was 'Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me' (a Ryan song),
which got to No.39 in the USA. This Anders & Poncia song (with Doc
Pomus) proved to be their final hit, another, 'Marryin’ Kind of Love'
(already recorded by The Young Rascals and The Goodtimes) failed to
score. The group's final single for Kapp 'Dancing In The Street' also
missed out on chart honours.
In October ‘67 Project 3 signed The Critters whose lineup now included
Bob Spinella, replacing Darway on organ, although the latter may well
have continued to play autoharp either on a full or parttime basis, and
Jeff Pelosi replacing Decker on drums. The new lineup suffered most
when they lost Ciccone, he had been drafted into the military. After
three albums the group fell into disarray.
Ryan went on to play sessions for artists such as Carly Simon, Kild
Dee, Jim Croce, John Entwistle, Dana Gillespie, Chris Jagger, Cat
Stevens, Jim Webb and Cole Younger. Ciccone reemerged in ‘74 when he
replaced Clay Jordan in The Four Seasons.
UK releases and chart positions
London HLR 10047 Younger Girl/Gone for Awhile 1966 (No.38)
London HLR 10071 Mr. Dieingly Sad/it Just Won't Be That Way 1966
London HLR 10101 Bad Misunderstanding/Forever or No More 1966
London HLR 10119 Marryin' Kind of Love/New York Bound 1967
London HLR 10149 Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me/Walk Like A Man
Again 1967
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:13:51 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Mickie Most, RIP
For a BBC tribute to Mickie Most:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2953380.stm
Mick Patrick
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 18:32:23 +0930
From: Norman
Subject: Steve Kipner and Steve Groves
Hello Spectroppers,
Re: Steve and Steve
Some early history.
Lynne Randell had seen The Kinetics in 1966 playing at a dance in Frankston
Victoria and got her manager Carol West to take a look. This led to a
recording contract with CBS. The band which included Steve Groves and John
Vallins apparently scored top twenty with Excuses but I only remember them for
Tomorrow Today from 1967.
Nat Kipner, producer and one time head of Spin Records, had a hand in producing
some of the Bee Gees earlier records. His son Steve had a group who scored a
hit with Giggle Eyed Goo in 1966, on Spin Records. Steve and The Board also
featured Colin Petersen and Geoff Bridgeford on drums (different times of
course).
A latter formation of Tin Tin included Groves, Kipner and Vallins.
Re: the involvement in the "is it or isn't it the Beatles" tune Have You Heard
the Word (with Maurice Gibb). I refer you to Graham Calkin's Beatles Pages on
http://www.jpgr.co.uk/fut.html
Regards,
Norman
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:26:17 -0400
From: David Ponak
Subject: The Liquid Room 5/25/03
The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs
every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org.
The Liquid Room 5/25/03
1.The Association/Come On In
Birthday (WB)
2.Yoko Nagisa/Ai No....
(single) (Initial Note-Japan)
3.April March/There Is Always Madness
Triggers (Tricatel-France)
4.Sonia Rosa/Mas Nao Da
A Bossa Rosa De Sonia (WB-Brazil)
5.Broadcast/Pendulum
Pendulum (Warp)
6.Marcello Giombini/Seli
Perry Rhodan-Original Soundtrack (Diggler-Germany)
7.Parliament/Handcuffs
Mothership Connection (Mercury)
8.The Ray Makers/Undending Capacity
Par Avion: Global Indie Clubpop (Eenie Meenie)
9.Benjamin Biolay/Chaise A Tokyo
Negatif (Virgin-France)
10.Kirinji/Blind Touch...
Sweet Sour EP (Toshiba EMI-Japan)
11.Blossom Dearie/Charade
May I Come In? (Capitol)
12.Polysics/Black Out Fall Out
Japan For Sale Volume 3 (Sony Music Imports)
13.Junior Senior/Boy Meets Girl
D-D-Don't Stop The Beat (Atlantic)
14.M.D. Sica/La Chiameremo Andrea
Le Scat (Volcano-Japan)
15.Capsule/Candy Cutie
Cutie Cinema Replay (Contemode-Japan)
16.Andrew/He Can Fly
Happy To Be Here (Bus Stop)
17.Black Box Recorder/These Are The Things
Passionoia (One Little Indian-UK)
18.Anamaria & Mauricio/Le Le Le
No No No...Estamos Na Nossa (WB-Brazil)
19.Tony Lasley/If You Don't Know
Beat Nova (Tony performs live in the studio on June 15!)
20.Seksu Roba/LA Freeway
Pleasure Vibrations (Eenie Meenie)
21.Jackie & Roy/Winds Of Heaven
Grass (Capitol)
22.Sukilove/Talking In The Dark
Sukilove (Hidden Agenda)
23.Bee Gees/First Of May
Odessa (Polydor)
24.Rural/Magic Of The Music
Tokai Soto Nakai (Sakura-Japan)
25.The Moon/Pleausure
Without Earth (Revola-UK)
26.Ralph Myerz & The Jack Herrin Band/You Never Come Closer
A Special Album (Emperor Norton)
27.Scott Walker/Come Saturday Morning
The Moviegoer (Phillips)
28.Kim Fox/When Love Was The Only Thing
Return To Planet Earth (Franklin Castle)
29.Linda Yamaki/Mini Mini Date
Sixties Ladyland (Tokuma-Japan)
30.The 88/How Good It Can Be
Kind Of Light (EMK)
31.Hideki Kaji/Fantastic Game
(single) (Felicity-Japan)
32.Seri Ishikawa/???
Seri Sings Pico (Solid-Japan)
33.TV Eyes/She Gets Around
12" (Emperor Norton)
34.Dimitri From Paris w/Pink Martini/Syracuse
Cruising Attitude (JVC Victor-Japan)
35.Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man/Sand River
Out Of Season (Go Beat-UK)
36.Peter Lacey/Love
Anderida (Pink Hedgehog-UK)
37.Cody ChesnuTT/Michelle
The Headphone Masterpiece (Ready Set Go)
38.Elvis Costello & The Attractions/Almost Blue
Imperial Bedroom (Rhino)
39.The Cardigans/You're The Storm
Long Gone Before Daylight (Stockholm-UK)
40.Manitoba/Bijoux
Up In Flames (Domino)
41.Montefiori Cocktail/Je T'Adore (Daniele Luppi Remix)
Re-Shaken (Water Music)
42.Sunaga T. Experience/Ya Chi Mu...
Double Standard (Readymade International)
43.Riolistic/Felicidade
Brazil Remixed (Groovy Gravy)
44.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On
Someday Man (Reprise)
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:04:08 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Carol & Cheryl
This Carol & Cheryl, I have a tape with a song "Go Go GTO" on it. Was this a
release on Colpix?
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:32:39 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Mickie Most
I didn't see the news about Mickie Most until today's "Mail On Sunday"
newspaper....Like many, it saddened me no end.....In the eighties I
was lucky enough to spend a day with Mickie as I guided him around a
few radio stations to help publicise the re-launch of Rak Records.....
Although he spenta lot of time on the phone to his broker, playing the
money markets (and winning !), I was enthralled with his observations
about records that came on the various stations and his memories of great
hits, both his own, and those by others...he was, at the same time,
obviously a huge fan and very business-like in his approach to music....
Like an idiot I never thought to sit and record anything with him, but
it still remains one of my most intersting days in the record business....
My condolences to his family.....the industry has lost one of its "greats".
Austin Powell
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