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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: B. Mitchell Reid
From: Andrew Jones
2. Re: The Critters
From: Bill George
3. Re: Darlene Love - Stumble And Fall - Philles
From: Steve Harvey
4. Re: In the red corner is Brian and in the blue corner Frankie Valli
From: Andrew Hickey
5. Re: Button up
From: Steve Harvey
6. Discuss It or Talk About It?
From: Steve Harvey
7. Shindig & Priscilla Paris
From: Martin Roberts
8. The Beach Seasons vs. the Four Boys
From: Steve Harvey
9. Re: Arthur Lee
From: Stewart Mason
10. Re: New York Shindig update; more Al Casey
From: Mike Rashkow
11. Al Casey, the Coasters
From: Guy Lawrence
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 09:52:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: Re: B. Mitchell Reid
About B. Mitchell Reid: In the late Seventies he did some
programs called "The BMR Interviews" for a series called
"Hot News!" I have some of these, and if he was a fast talker
in his prime, he slowed down a bit for these interviews
(I understand he died in the early '80s).
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 11:17:00 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: The Critters
If anyone has questions about the Critters, please email me
offlist. I'll collect the questions and ask Jimmy Ryan, who
is a relative through marriage. No guarantee he'll answer me,
but he probably will
- Bill
PS. I'm planning on going to the Spectropop party. Any way of
knowing who all is going to be there, and how we can recognize
each other?
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Darlene Love - Stumble And Fall - Philles
Sebastian Fonzeus wrote:
> I recently managed to get ahold of a DJ copy of
> Darlene Love's "Stumble And Fall" b/w "He's A Quiet Guy"
Sebastian,
I found one of those singles for $8 back in the
late 70s. It first came out for public consumption on
those two import LPs of Spector rarities that came out
of England in the 70s. Stumble and Fall, He's a Quiet
Guy, and Strange Love made Darlene my favorite female
singer of the Spector clan. I don't think it ever made
it out as a stock copy.
As for why it never made it out to the public I suspect
it had to do with Spector pulling a power play. Darlene
stood up to him and that probably scared him. When I met
her on her book tour she was not overly fond of him, with
good reason. Nonetheless those three songs are gems that
are right up there with any of the "hits" everybody else
knows. The strange thing is that when they put out her
Greatest Hits LP one of the three was left off. Luckily
it's on the Spector boxset. Darlene doesn't have that
record, by the way.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:01:07 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: In the red corner is Brian and in the blue corner Frankie Valli
>>And Sean, nice try but I have to tell you that both groups only
>ever had nice things to say about each other. If Gaudio ever
>intended anything with "No Surfin'" back then, he certainly can't
>remember it now. And of course one should not forget that both
>groups came together in the 70s to record, oddly enough, "East
>Meets West" on FBI. An OK record but a wasted opportunity to
>utilise the vocal talents of both bands.
Not really true. I can't remember the quote exactly, but
there was an absolutely *SCATHING* quote from Bruce Johnston
from the early 90s when he said that the 4 Seasons knew nothing
about harmony and couldn't sing (a stance he seems strangely to
have stopped taking since the 'Beach Boys' got Frankie Valli
impersonator Adrian Baker into the band and started doing Sherry
live). And then there's the "Surfers Rule - 04 Seasons you'd better
believe it" in the track Surfers Rule...
>But I'm right with you if you can get a war going. Over here in
>the UK it's London versus the rest with everyone outside the capital
>thinking Londoners are just a big bunch of soft southern jessies
But that's because Londoners *ARE* just a big bunch of soft southern
jessies.
>whilst Londoners themselves don't seem to think life exists beyond
>the big car park in the sky they call the M25. As someone born in
>London who fled when he was 21 and has spent the last 29 years
>happily ensconced "up north", I cannot understand why anyone,
>claiming sound mental health, would want to live in that City. It's
>like banging your head constantly against a brick wall and the pain
>only stops when you leave the place. And the last time I went down?
>To see Brian at the Festival Hall.
Only times I've been to London in the last 6 years have been to see
Brian Wilson, Van Dyke Parks and the Stomp conventions...London has
an intense aura of evil about it that means only truly great music can
entice me down...
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Button up
James Botticelli wrote:
> I'm venturing that $12 will get you a glass of Merlot/Chardonnay
A few glasses of Chardonnay and you can blank out automatically!
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Discuss It or Talk About It?
Simon White:
> I also have a version by The Instigations on T-Bird records
> and to my horror have just discovered that Rod Stewart
> recorded it too.
Wasn't the Rod Stewart record, "I Don't Want To Talk
About It", not "Discuss It". I think his tune was the
one written by the late Danny Whitten of Crazy Hose,
Neil Young's backing band.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:58:25 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Shindig & Priscilla Paris
Country Paul wrote about Priscilla Paris' Rak single:
>Was this a hit among our "UK cousins"?
I'm afraid regarding Pricilla's my tongue was firmly in my cheek.
Pretty hard record to find and nary a sniff of the charts.
Country Paul also suggested name badges for the party, I'm with
you on this Paul. It would be a shame to miss talking to someone
due to ignorance of who they were. I well remember attending Mick's
launch party for Philately in 197?, held in a pub in Leicester some
distance from my London home. In my eagerness not to miss anything
I arrived slightly before my hosts. For the following two hours I
was rather ignored as it was assumed I was with the bar staff and
just free loading on the sandwiches! Happy days, I seem to recall
I had all my own teeth and hair back then.
I guess name badges would be hard to prepare due to not knowing
who's coming! Might it be an idea, with the party less than two
weeks away to start a list of who 'intends' to come? Naturally
things can happen to prevent attendance but I'd have thought a
guide could be useful. Personally I'm fairly easy to spot, tall
(5'-2"), with thick, long ginger hair and full 'Santa' beard.
Also being a Brit abroad I'm bound to be wearing a Union Jack
T-Shirt and if it's hot I dare say a four-cornered, knotted hanky
on my head...see you there!
Martin
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 11:18:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: The Beach Seasons vs. the Four Boys
Of all the Beach Boy collaborations done in the 80s I
thought "East Meets West" was a pretty hooky tune. It
really isn't the Four Seasons, but Frankie Valli.
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:34:46 -0400
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Arthur Lee
Country Paul asks:
>First, does anyone know when and if Arthur Lee and Love are coming
>to the New York area? Who is in the band these days - any originals?
Arthur is more than original enough on his own! The lineup is
the same as on the last tour: Arthur plus the LA power pop band
Baby Lemonade, with a string and horn section.
I saw them on the last tour and this lineup is remarkable. Since,
unlike the original lineup of Love, this one isn't comprised of
almost entirely of smack addicts and juicers, they actually sound
*better* than any of the '60s groups!
But he's been and gone already - they played Town Hall Thursday night.
S
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:22:56 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: New York Shindig update; more Al Casey
Country Paul writes:
> Sanford Clark
Now there's a memory for me. One of the first country things
that ever caught my attention, Sanford Clark's THE FOOL.
Same time period as A Rose & A Baby Ruth, George Hamilton IV,
I think.
Rashkovsky
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:52:41 +0100
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Al Casey, the Coasters
Andrew Jones wrote:
> Years ago, while going through a cousin's collection of old
> singles, I found one by Al and the KC-Ettes (on the Stacy
> label)...the B-side was a Lee Hazlewood composition called
> "What Are We Gonna Do In '64?" Mostly, the song looked back
> on recent dance crazes and musical styles and asked, wonder
> what's coming next? Oh, if they only knew!
Dang it! Spectropop keeps doing this to me! I really can't rest
now 'till I hear this record. Does anyone know if it's been
reissued anywhere? Or does anyone have a copy they'd be willing
to share with us all?
Talking of the Coasters, I see that Rhino are releasing a 2CD
'Best Of' soon. It's about time! Their catalogue has been
disgracefully neglected since Sequel's excellent (now deleted)
reissues back in '97. All I've seen since are some derisory hits
collections. It's really not right that such a vital body of work
can fall into such a state. For me it's the same as walking into a
book shop to find that Shakespeare is "currently not available".
Just plain wrong!
Calming down now,
Guy.
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