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SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Graduation Day
From: Doc Rock
2. Re: Jackie De Shannon
From: Clarke Davis
3. Re: Maxine Brown
From: Ken Silverwood
4. Re: Midnight Joey
From: Artie Wayne
5. Re: The Big O
From: Ron
6. Brian Wilson in NY
From: Mike Edwards
7. Re: Jackie De Shannon
From: Artie Wayne
8. Orbisonian tunes
From: James Cassidy
9. The "real" Roy Orbison song
From: Clark Besch
10. Feelin' No Pain
From: Phil Milstein
11. Re: Lisa Hartman
From: Bill George
12. Beyond the Trees/Sanusky's Monk/Ron Britain/Brelyn/Crescendos
From: Clark Besch
13. Re: Girl Group Question
From: Jeffrey Glenn
14. Roy Orbison/Lovin' Man
From: David Bell
15. Re: Brian Wilson's NYC concert
From: Andrew Hickey
16. Graduation Day
From: Phil Milstein
17. Re: Brian Wilson in NY
From: Andrew Hickey
18. Re: Maxine Brown
From: David Bell
19. Roy soundalikes
From: Rob
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:04:09 -0400
From: Doc Rock
Subject: Graduation Day
Premier version: Rover Boys, 1956
Cover Version: Four Freshmen
Then 1963 - Bobby Picket.
1967 - Arbors.
And many non-hit versions.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:04:29 -0000
From: Clarke Davis
Subject: Re: Jackie De Shannon
There is an incredible song by Jackie DeShannon that I
cannot find on any CD. Anyone else looking for "Your Baby
Is A Lady"? I think this is one of her finest, and wish it
were available on CD!
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:16:57 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Maxine Brown
Wendy Flynn asked:
> did anyone see Maxine Brown perform at Cleethorpes on
> Saturday night? I was too busy in one of the chalets moaning
> after dancing for too long. I still stink of Deep Heat!
> Anyway - was she deadly?
Is that "Deep Heat" used as a perfume, an alcoholic substitute
or the old fashioned way? Sounds a great night anywhichway!
Did she do "Torture"? Did she do "One In A Million"?
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Midnight Joey
Michael Gessner asked:
> "1963.. answer song to 'Midnight Mary'. Is the Lorna Dune
> title '(Meet you at) Midnight Joey' or just 'Midnight Joey'?"
> I emailed Artie Wayne (who wrote the thing). He's aware of
> it but never heard it.
Michael........How ya' doin'?
The title of the answer to "[Meet me at] Midnight Mary" was
"[I'll meet you at] Midnight Joey."
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:58:12 -0000
From: Ron
Subject: Re: The Big O
Three Roy type songs that pop into my mind:
"I'll Never Dance Again" - Bobby Rydell
"He'll Only Hurt You" - Dion (another Columbia "b" side)
"It Hurts Me" - Bobby Sherman (thanks to Gary Usher)
Ron
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:24:45 -0400
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Brian Wilson in NY
Thanks, Paul, for the very detailed write-up on Brian
Wilson’s recent performance at NYC’s Beacon Theatre.
Clearly you put a lot of work into this. Looking at the
song titles, I was surprised to see so many of the Beach
Boys’ pop tunes included. Somehow reading about Brian in
Spectropop led me to think that he had moved onto other
things and regarded the Beach Boys early output as
inconsequential, leaving them to be performed live by the
two other Beach Boys’ road units.
Thanks again, Paul
Mike Edwards
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Jackie De Shannon
Bill.........How ya' doin'? First I want to tell you that I
think your Jackie DeShannon website is very "Cool"! I first
met Jackie back in 1964 when she was on tour with the Beatles
in New York. We had talked on the phone a few times after I cut
a couple of her songs with Joey Powers ["Midnight Mary"] and
we arranged to get together when she got to town.
We hit it off immediately with our mutual love of music,
dancing and art museums. I was going to show her "My New York",
but she wound up showing me "Her world". That included after
hour jam sessions in Greenwich village with Dave Von Ronk,
John Hammond Jr. and Tom Paxton ............as well as showing
me how to play songs she just learned from Bob Dylan and John
Lennon.
My first [and only] single for Liberty records, "Where Does A
Rock and Roll Singer Go [When His Record's Off the Charts?"]
just bombed out and I was discouraged with the music business
in the States. Jackie suggested that I go to the U K, where
I just had a top ten hit with "Queen for Tonight" by Helen
Shapiro.
She said that I should go to London when she would be there.....
in November 1964 when she would be promoting her latest single.
Once again, I was swept away to her galaxy.......becoming friends
with one of her co-writers, Jimmy Page, watching her perform on
"Ready, Steady, Go!", and going on several stops of the Beatles'
promo tour for "Beatles For Sale".
Jackie and I never dated...........but we hung out a lot. I was
devastated when a misunderstanding [too minute to remember]
threatened our relationship. We hadn't spoken in a month........
then the day after I had open heart surgery, back in N.Y., she
called me from a recording studio to see how I was. She had
the engineer play the backing track she was working on ..... and
sang "What The World Needs Now Is Love" to me over the phone. I
can't tell you how much that meant to me......but I actually made
medical history by walking around 36 hours after my operation!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:34:49 -0400
From: James Cassidy
Subject: Orbisonian tunes
I heartily concur with the thumbs-up given to Gene Pitney's
"It's Over"/"It's Over"; the two songs work amazingly well
together and Gene sounds great on it. Gene has several other
songs that fit the Orbisonian mold (subdued, sparse, baritone
intro building to operatic, sturm-und-drang high tenor climax),
my favorite of which is Mann-Weil's "I'm Gonna Be Strong."
It also mines the same vein of self-pity. What's brilliant
about "I'm Gonna Be Strong" is that the singer wallows in
self-pity while boldly declaring that he's going to "take it
like a man."
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:59 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: The "real" Roy Orbison song
Hi, I realize we are talking about Roy soundalikes, but this
talk brings up a thought of a song I only found about 15
years after he recorded it. I bought his MGM Celebrity Series
45s box set at a thrift store or somewhere cheap in the 80s.
One 45 side I had never heard and I thought it was one of the
best war (?) songs I'd ever heard. "There Won't Be Many Coming
Home" seemed to be a timeless song that I played on my radio
show when it was warranted and I still think it is a perfect
description of war. Not to mention Roy's always perfect sad
rendition.
Later I found it was on the "Fastest Guitar Alive" movie
soundtrack in which Roy tried to go the movie star route.
When I taped the movie a few years ago, I did not hear this
song in it--maybe it was in the background of one of the scenes?
It should have been more prevalent in the movie, that's fer
sure! Maybe it was too sad? Anyway, I really think this is a
great overlooked song by Roy.
Take care,
Clark
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:15:38 -0500
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Feelin' No Pain
A couple of weeks ago I submitted a request here for a dub
of The Del Satins' "Feelin' No Pain," a Dion-written (and,
I believe, produced) track the title and provenance of which
had intrigued me for some time, but a copy of which had equally
eluded me. Since then David Young, aka "spectorcollector," has
come through big time, not only providing a dub of what turns
out to be at least as great a cut as I'd hoped, but also
allowing me to play it to musica for all to hear. Seek and ye
shall find.
Enjoy,
--Phil M.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:23:24 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Lisa Hartman
Brad Burg writes:
> Bill. I was always puzzled that even after becoming a TV
> star, Lisa didn't go on to do much music; she has quite a
> voice. And then, after marrying Clint Black, she still
> didn't record, until they had that duet hit.
Brad, after seeing Lisa interviewed on TV, it seems she really
lost faith and confidence in her music (or at least in her
place in the music industry.) Even with her fame as an actress,
her musical career never took off. She even resisted recording
with Clint because she thought it would jinx his career! This
is too bad, as she really has a great voice. If you speak to her,
please tell her she has fans out here who would love to hear her
record again. With her recent success on the country charts, she
could do something in the vein of Faith Hill and might be very
successful, with both pop and country fans.
- Bill
PS. Thanks for the compliments on the JDSAS website!
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:20:28 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Beyond the Trees/Sanusky's Monk/Ron Britain/Brelyn/Crescendos
Hi, I was wondering about a few songs and thought someone out
there might have some answers to my queries. In 1968 (7?),
I taped off WKYC in Cleveland, a song that I think was called
"Beyond the Trees" and the DJ sounded like he said it was by
Sandusky's Monk. Not sure about either the title or artist,
but considering Sandusky is a city in Ohio, maybe there was
such a group?? Any ideas out there?
Another song I am wondering about is Cleveland/Chicago DJ Ron
Britain's "Are You Going To Wail, Tulus?". Anyone ever heard
this?
Another is Bobby Brelyn. His 45 "Hanna" on Jorel is fairly
easy to find, but I am trying to locate another 45 he had,
"Yes You Do" on Jorel 5133. Anyone have it or know anything
about Bobby Brelyn?
Another Chicago 45 I am wondering about is "Countdown to Ecstasy"
by the Crescendos (no, not THOSE Crescendos). Any one have/
heard of this 45?
Thanks for any info on these artists!!
Clark
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:39:26 -0700
From: Jeffrey Glenn
Subject: Re: Girl Group Question
Ed:
> I thank anyone who can help with this. I've been looking for
> this song for many years.
I've just played the 2 of Clubs version of "Walk Tall" to musica.
Ed didn't say where he's from, but this is the only version of
the song that charted in the U.S. Great track, and written by
Vance/Pockriss!
Jeff
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:45:15 EDT
From: David Bell
Subject: Roy Orbison/Lovin' Man
And I have a recording of "Lovin' Man" by Miss Connie Francis,
which she recorded for her UA album in 1978, after her Greatest
Hits package hit #1 in Britain's album charts in 1977. It's not
that great if I'm honest. Happy days!
Best wishes,
David.
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:50:21 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson's NYC concert
Country Paul wrote:
> Haven't caught up with the last 3 days of dispatches, but
> I'm compelled to report - glowingly - on tonight's
> apparently sold-out Brian Wilson concert at the Beacon
> Theatre. In a phrase, it was a treat!
That's odd - the general consensus has been that the band
were underrehearsed, and that Darian Sahanaja was sorely
missed.
> The Wondermints (with a substitute keyboardist, who was
> top-shelf)
The keyboardist was Gary Griffin, formerly of the Bel-Air
Bandits, who has worked with Foskett, the Beach Boys and Jan
& Dean. He comes from the surf music scene and presumably
knows the earlier stuff better, hence the hits emphasis for
these shows...
> he sat behind a Yamaha keyboard with two monitors with the
> lyrics, never touching the keyboard except to lean on it.
Even on Surfer Girl?
> Melt Away (do I have this title right?)
Yes, from his eponymous 1988 album, and also the "I Just
Wasn't Made For These Times" soundtrack
> [Jeff Foskett introduced the band - wish I could remember
> names]
Gary Griffin - substitute keyboard
Probyn Gregory - guitar, tannerin, trumpet etc
Paul Mertens - woodwinds
Mike D'Amico - percussion
Taylor Mills - backing vocals
Nick 'Nicky Wonder' Walusko - guitar
Scott Bennet - keyboards & percussion
Bob Lizik - bass
Jim Hines - drums
> Friends (with a brief intro I couldn't identify)
That will be "Meant For You" - the opening track from the
"Friends" album
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:12:28 -0500
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Graduation Day
Doc Rock wrote:
> Premier version: Rover Boys, 1956
> Cover Version: Four Freshmen
> Then 1963 - Bobby Picket.
> 1967 - Arbors.
> And many non-hit versions.
This song always seemed to have been tailor-made to be a
perennial -- a new "Happy Birthday," as it were. Yet I've
never heard it sung at any graduation (nor graduation party)
that I've ever attended, and I wonder if it's ever caught on
to any degree in that realm. Maybe it's just too hard for
ordinary singers to tackle.
--Phil M.
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:28:17 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson in NY
Mike Edwards:
> Looking at the song titles, I was surprised to see so many
> of the Beach Boys pop tunes included. Somehow reading about
> Brian in Spectropop led me to think that he had moved onto
> other things and regarded the Beach Boys early output as
> inconsequential, leaving them to be performed live by the
> two other Beach Boys road units.
That is the case to an extent - for a setlist from last year
(a gig I attended) see
http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/6-12-02.html
But for this mini-tour Darian Sahanaja, the band's musical
director, had other commitments, and the band had little or
no rehearsal with his stand-in Gary Griffin. Griffin comes
from the surf-pop side of things, so he knows that material
better, plus it's easier to play.
Also Brian's US sets tend to lean a lot more towards the hits,
while in the UK the sets tend to be longer and contain more
rarities. But the fact that his next big planned tour is the
Smile tour, with a planned 35 minute suite of Smile material,
should show you what direction the shows are going in.
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:08:21 EDT
From: David Bell
Subject: Re: Maxine Brown
Ken Silverwood asked:
> Did she do "Torture"? Did she do "One In A Million"?
Yes, she did both of those songs at Cleethorpes.
Ooh, the memories already!
David.
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:31:56 -0000
From: Rob
Subject: Roy soundalikes
Hi everybody,
How about Johnny Crawford's "Proud." A good song with a
definite Big O sound.
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