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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Elusive Butterfly
From: Doug
2. Re: Elusive Butterfly
From: James Botticelli
3. Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
From: Mike Babbino
4. Marty Paich/Art Pepper LP "I Get A Boot Out Of You" on Warners
From: Michael
5. Re: The In-Crowd and The Eligibles
From: James Botticelli
6. Re: For Your Love/Flo and Eddie
From: Stewart Mason
7. Re: GREAT Spectropop Shindig!!!
From: James Botticelli
8. Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
From: Jean-Emmanuel Dubois
9. Gouldman
From: Stuart Miller
10. Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
From: Mike Babbino
11. Graham Cracker
From: Steve Harvey
12. Re: Jackie DeShannon
From: Clarke Davis
13. Soul 24-7.com - Metropolitan Soul Playlist, 22nd June
From: Simon White
14. Party Time!...Dean Martin
From: Martin Roberts
15. A Group Called The Faculty
From: Art Long Jr
16. Re: Brian Hyland--late 60s stuff
From: JJ
17. Re: Elusive Butterfly
From: Ken Silverwood
18. Orbisounds/I Could Have Loved You So Well
From: Ian Chapman
19. Re: The Neutrons -- Cut-Out
From: David Coyle
20. Re: Shindig Party in NY City
From: Mike Edwards
21. Re: Party
From: Ian Chapman
22. Metropolitan Soul Show, Sun 22nd June
From: Mike Edwards
23. Re: Party
From: Mark Frumento
24. The Songs of Baker Knight
From: Ian Chapman
25. Re: Attack on Attack/It's My Party - The CD
From: Mark Frumento
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Message: 1
GrabDateDate: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:13:25 -0000
From: Doug
Subject: Re: Elusive Butterfly
Mike Edwards wrote: Bob Lind is also on amazon.com with "The Best of Bob
Lind: You Might Have Heard My Footsteps" for around $11.
This one's got "Elusive Butterfly", "Truly Julie's Blues (I'll Be There)"
and "Cheryl's Goin' Home". Back in the
60s, Bob Lind struck me as a guy with a lot of talent and a
style that was right in there; I was surprised he faded so quickly.
So true! Both of Bob's World Pacifc albums are really good; the
first one is especially fine. The "Best Of" CD is a
great
package. And produced by Spectropopper Jack Nitzsche. His later
Capitol album is also very good, in a more country-rock style.
Doug
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:48:38 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Elusive Butterfly
Mike Edwards wrote: Back in the 60s, Bob Lind struck me as a guy with a
lot of talent and a style that was right in there; I was surprised he faded
so quickly.
Every time I think about Bob Lind--admittedly not
terribly
frequently--I think of Peter Sarstedt and "Where Do You
Go To
(My Lovely)". Anyone have the Sarstedt Skinny? Never
heard from
him after that one.
JB
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:19:19 -0400
From: Mike Babbino
Subject: Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
Veli-Pekka wrote: ....there are songs I can't find anywhere, and that's
why I'm turning to you. Does somebody know where I could find these tracks:
- A Woman's Story and Baby I Love You by Cher - A Love Like Yours by Cher
& Nilsson - I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life by Darlene Love - Try
Some Buy Some by Ronnie - Here It Comes (And Here I Go) by Jerri Bo Keno
Hi,
You can get any of these easily on e bay.... just go
under Phil Spector, Darlene love, or Ronnie Spector...
Have fun,
mike
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:42:36 -0000
From: Michael
Subject: Marty Paich/Art Pepper LP "I Get A Boot Out Of You" on Warners
Hello again!
As a fan of Warner Bros early "wide separation"
recordings
from the late 1950s and early 60s, I'm trying to locate
a
copy of an LP by Marty Paich/Art Pepper called "I Get A Boot
Out Of You" on WS 1349 from 1959. If you have a decent copy
for sale, please let me know details, off-list.
Thanks.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:42:43 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The In-Crowd and The Eligibles
Elliot Kendall wrote: Time for a West Coast Spectropop summit...??
Is this the one and same former Del-Fi reissue compiler?...
Hey Eliot! Jimmy Bee here formerly of WMBR, Cambridge!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:37:06 -0400
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: For Your Love/Flo and Eddie
Dave Mirich asks: I saw Herman's Hermits last night.... Peter said
on stage that their first album had a song "For Your Love"
(later rocketed the Yardbirds to sucess), but HHs did not release
it as a single because they didn't think it would
chart. It appears a long-time collaborator of the Hermits was
a fellow by the name of Gouldman who wrote the song, so
it might be true. Anybody know about this?
Graham Gouldman did indeed write many hits for the Hermits,
the Hollies ("Bus Stop" was one of his) and others,
along
with "For Your Love." (In the '70s, he was one-fourth
of
10cc and wrote many of their best songs.) HH recorded
"For
Your Love" on their first album and their version has
been
reissued many times. Also, I really enjoyed the Grass Roots and the
Turtles playing many of their hits. I loved the Turtles boxed set.
I've heard about the Flo and Eddie box. It it worthwhile?
No, if you want something that sounds like the Turtles. Yes
if you want a relentlessly sarcastic take on the pretentions
of '70s rock. While Flo and Eddie were always capable
of
greatness (their single "Another Pop Star's Life" is one of
the great glam-rock songs), the albums are quite uneven and
often too beholden to their "concept" to be thoroughly
interesting on their own terms.
S
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:51:57 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: GREAT Spectropop Shindig!!!
Tony Leong wrote: Our jaws dropped when the group "It's My Party" sang
"He's The Greatest" by the Delrons (I would've passed out had they sang
"Weather Forecast"!!!!!).
I almost had a caniption when they sang "Attack". The
lead was
dead on. And those harmonies....better than rekkids
even!
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:44:58 +0200
From: Jean-Emmanuel Dubois
Subject: Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
Veli-Pekka wrote: Does somebody know where I could find these tracks: -
A Woman's Story and Baby I Love You by Cher - A Love Like Yours by Cher
& Nilsson - I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life by Darlene Love - Try
Some Buy Some by Ronnie - Here It Comes (And Here I Go) by Jerri Bo Keno
Mike Babbino: You can get any of these easily on e bay.... just go under
Phil Spector, Darlene love, or Ronnie Spector...
And on CD?? Nothing to my knowledge??
JED- Have fun, mike http://www.spectropop.com/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:58:15 +0100
From: Stuart Miller
Subject: Gouldman
Dave Mirich wrote: It appears a long-time collaborator of the Hermits was
a fellow by the name of Gouldman who wrote the song, so
it might be true. Anybody know about this?
Dave,
This would be Graham Gouldman who went on to become one
of
10CC. He wrote a lot of hits for other artists
including
the Hollies.
Stuart
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:58:57 -0400
From: Mike Babbino
Subject: Re: Searching for Spector of the 70s
Mike Babbino wrote re. 70s Spector tracks: You can get any of these easily on e bay.... just go under Phil Spector, Darlene love, or Ronnie Spector...
Jean Emmanuel Dubois: And on CD?? Nothing to my knowledge??
Yes, I purchased a compilation set on ebay..under Phil Spector
Motherlode.....you just have to watch! It had every one of
those songs.....and the quality was quite good.
Happy hunting,
Mike B.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Graham Cracker
Graham Gouldman not only wrote for the Hermits,
Yardbirds
and Hollies, but did a great tune that Cher covered,
"Behind the Door". He did some sides as part of the
Mockingbirds before he did that solo LP (RCA?).
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:43:02 -0000
From: Clarke Davis
Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon
Peter Lerner wrote: This woman has been performing and writing rock, pop, blues, gospel, country, hillbilly and goodness knows what
since 1956, she's still doing it now and just gets to look
and sound better with every year. When you then consider that she's worked and collaborated with Bob Dylan, the Beatles, Van Morrison, Jimmy Page, Brian Wilson, the
Byrds...... you know she is one special person.
Hi Peter,
Yes, Jackie is one of a kind, and we are all richer for
having been exposed to her unique point of view. Her literate
lyrics and subtle sensuality may not hit everyone, but those
who are attuned to what she does in her music, are
instant fans.
What red blooded male would not love this lady of
mystery, charm,
and elegance? I was hooked from the time I heard her outsing
Patsy Cline on "Faded Love," and when she sang "The Prince," I
just melted. I think she's that legendary girl every
man falls
for, but somehow lets slip away much to their utter lifelong
regret. That really is the essence of her magic.
Clarke
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:56:55 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Soul 24-7.com - Metropolitan Soul Playlist, 22nd June
The Satintones - It's A Rough World - Street Corner
Archie Bell & the Drells - You're Such A Beautiful Child
- Atlantic
Marvin Gaye - My Love For You - CD Spectrum 067016 2 "Motown
Connoisseurs Vol 2"
Adam Wade - Half The World - Remember
Spyder Turner - I Can't Make It Anymore - Goldmine CD 47
"Big City Soul Vol 3"
Lennie Welch - My Fool Of A Heart - Kapp
Willie Hutch - Love Runs Out - MCA CD 19398 "Soul Satisfaction"
The Toys - Can't Get Enough Of You Baby - Stateside
The Toys - May My Heart Be Cast Into Stone - Dynovoice
Barbara Jean English - Sitting In The Corner - Aurora
Barbara Jean English - I'm Living A Lie - Sanctuary CD
CMRC291 "On The Real Side"
The Exciters - Blowing Up My Mind -RCA
The Exciters - Movin' Too Slow- Kent CD156 "Rare Collectable
and Soulful"
The Exciters - You Better Come Home - Bang
Maxine Brown - Let Me Give You My Lovin' - Wand
Lee Andrews - I've Had It - Crimson
Joy Fleming - A Bridge Of Love - Arctic
Gerri Grainger - I Go To Pieces - Bell
Betty Everett - You're Falling In Love - MCA CD 19398
"Soul Satisfaction"
Annabelle Fox - Getting Thru' To Me - Kent CD
Four Vandals - Wrong Side Of Town - Goldmine 45
Lada Edmund Jnr - The Larue - MCA CD 19398 "Soul Satisfaction"
The Charades - Key To My Happiness - CD Goldmine 47 "Big City
Soul Vol 3"
The Lovetones - Fire Alarm - Motorcity CD 72 "Turn This Heart
Around"
Sandi Sheldon - You're Gonna Make Me Love You - Epic
Alexander Patten - A Little Lovin' Sometimes - Capitol
Joey Delorenzo - Wake Up To The Sunshine Girl - Goldmine
GSCD 159 "Allnighter Vol 4"
Chuck Jackson - All Over The World - Motorcity
JJ Barnes - That's Just Never Enough - Motorcity CD
The Trammps - Hold Back The Night - Buddah
Dean Parrish - Determination -
Jackie Lee - The Duck Pt 1 - Contempo
Sandy Nelson - The Duck
Jackie Lee - The Duck Pt 2 - Contempo
Clyde McPhatter - Give Me One More Chance - MCA CD 19398
"Soul Satisfaction"
Bobby Sheen - I Want You For My Sweetheart - Dimension
Gene Pitney - Every Little Breath I Take
Bobby Sheen - If I Ever Dreamed I Hurt You - Warner Bros
Dee Clarke - Bring Back My Heart - Charly
Mickey Stevenson - Here I Am - Ember UK
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:08:16 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Party Time!...Dean Martin
A few folk have asked how the Dean Martin Festival went
and I must say it too was excellent. Sadly, no scantily
dressed Go Go dancers but not by a long way was it attended
only by maternal grandmothers with blue rinses.
Sue and Sam were there at the start on Friday. The
events
were mainly held in the local school hall with auctions
(proceeds going to charity), Dean and Frank
lookie-likies
singing and Deana Martin and her husband (Sue and Sam described
them both as charming) representing the family with
photo,
autograph and question and answer sessions. There were tours
to places of interest and Dean's Roller was parked
outside for
photos, etc, etc. Like our own party, a very friendly
atmosphere. I daresay Sue's enjoyment was heightened due to
my absence, but the celebrations were still going on
with lots of fun to be had, even when I arrived Saturday
afternoon via Pittsburgh. (I must comment on the rail system;
surely the safest in the world - I never saw the guard walking
in front of the train with a big red flag, but judging
by the
speed the train travelled at, I know he was there!)
Another 'problem' with the language: Our son (born 25th
of
August 1977) was asked for ID when buying a drink. "How
do I
do this hon, there is no twenty-fifth month?"!!
Getting back to our own Spectropop party - with our far flung
membership and the difficulty of travelling for many of us,
may I suggest as the next best thing to being there, satellite
link-ups around the world?!
Martin
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:15:46 -0000
From: Art Long Jr
Subject: A Group Called The Faculty
Hello all,
I have a record by a group that I have been trying to
research for a number of years. The group is called the
Faculty, doing a song called "Elevators, Escalators" and
the song was issued on the Mercury label circa 1968.
This
song was arranged by Al Gorgoni, and the b-side is
"Don't
Leave Me" written by Harry Nilsson. Anybody have any
info
on this tune, I haven't turned anything up on it
anywhere.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:18:11 -0000
From: JJ
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland--late 60s stuff
Clark Besch wrote: JJ, I agree that Brian's late 60s/70s stuff is buried
by his earlier works in most cases. Surprisingly enough, growing up in
Kansas gave me access to lots of cool songs on the Wichita radio stations
that not only played some really more obscure songs, but charted them very
high! "Tragedy" went to #1 and "Stay & Love Me All Summer" was big too.
I believe other Hyland songs also did well, but don't remember the titles
off hand.......He had several Uni 45s. I've actually been more interested
in his '65/'67 era lately......
**Thanx Clark, muchos valid info.....I better try to get
those '65/'67 era trax; any chance that the best stuff
is
included on a CD??
Enlighten me!
JJ/Sweden
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:20:14 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Elusive Butterfly
Big things were expected of Bob Lind. I remember many artists
of the time, 1966, talking him up as the next Dylan & deifying
him - but poof, he was gone as soon as he'd arrived. I
was
always a fan of "Cheryl's Going Home " & note it was covered
as a single by Adam Faith, The Blues Project & The Cascades.
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:28:55 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Orbisounds/I Could Have Loved You So Well
Following on from the Roy Orbison soundalike thread, now
playing at musica is Chance Eden's '66 re-working of "I Could
Have Loved You So Well." After a low-key, almost murmuring
beginning, Chance really goes for the Orbison vocal
style as
the song builds. Combine this with the vaguely
Spectorish
production -- not to mention an artist name that sounds like
a throwback to Larry Parnes' 50s Brit-boy stable -- and for
me, this version is lifted just beyond others I know by Patty
Lemann, Jan Burnnette and even Ray Peterson.
I've always regarded this song as a real classic and
often
wonder how Spector would've approached it, had he done a later
version. I can easily imagine a tumultuous Checkmates Ltd.
reading, swathed in masses of echo. Or even a killer
Tina
Turner version, after the style of "Everyday I Have To Cry."
BTW, I've just discovered there were two other versions
of the
song by Jack Bedient on Columbia in '67 and a later one
by Jimmy
Beaumont & the Skyliners, dating from '74 on Capitol.
Any info or opinions on these, anyone?
Ian
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: The Neutrons -- Cut-Out
Andrew asked for info on: NEUTRONS - "Julia" b/w "Cut-Out" (Golden Triangle
1002)
Out of curiosity, is the b-side of this the same song
as recorded by Johnny & The Hurricanes? If so, which
came first?
A Hurricanes fan,
David
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:51:14 -0400
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Shindig Party in NY City
Mike (1) wrote: And let's not forget, we're all gonna be doing this again....
real soon, right?
Mike (2): Boy I sure hope so!! That was a FUN night. Maybe next time my band
will play, also.
Back to Mike (1):
Now, let's not get too carried away!
Best,
Mike
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:15:36 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Re: Party
Mark Frumento wrote: Most amazing for me is that thanks to Mick and Phil C.
I now know what Northern Soul is. And seeing both of them do their take on
Northern Soul dancing was worth the trip to
NYC alone.
Now this, I HAVE to see!!! Anybody take any photos?!! Video?!!!
Ian
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:11:56 -0400
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Metropolitan Soul Show, Sun 22nd June
Re: Soul 24-7.com - Metropolitan Soul Playlist, 22nd June
(dj: Simon White)
Good guy, Simon White. I e-mailed him with a mini report of
Friday's Shindig Party and he played a few relevant
tunes on
this show which broadcasts at 9:00am in New York.
Thanks Simon for:
The Toys - Can't Get Enough Of You Baby - Stateside
The Toys - May My Heart Be Cast Into Stone - Dynovoice
Barbara Jean English - Sitting In The Corner - Aurora
Barbara Jean English - I'm Living A Lie - Sanctuary CD
CMRC291 "On The Real Side"
He kept the party going !!
Mike Edwards
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:14:26 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Party
Me: Most amazing for me is that thanks to Mick and Phil C.
I now know what Northern Soul is. And seeing both of them do their take
on Northern Soul dancing was worth the trip to NYC alone.
Ian Chapman wrote: Now this, I HAVE to see!!! Anybody take any photos?!!
Video?!!!
Fortunately for them, it was a private demonstration.
Mick would
not complete a back flip which really disappointed me. I mean the
man comes all the way to the US and he can't complete a full
Northern Soul dance demonstration!?
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:15:26 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: The Songs of Baker Knight
Baker Knight is a songwriter whose greatest successes include
the million-selling hits for Rick Nelson, "Lonesome
Town" and
"There'll Never Be Anyone Else But You" and Elvis' "The Wonder
Of You". But for the girl-group/Spectorsound
aficionados
amongst us, he is more readily known as the man responsible
for such minor classics such as the Delicates' "Comin' Down
With Love", the Blossoms' "Deep Into My Heart" and my
personal favourite, Timi Yuro's utterly wonderful "Teardrops
Till Dawn".
A few weeks ago I discovered Baker's website which gave
a
long list of his compositions, but the above songs were
missing. This prompted me to exchange a few e-mails
with the
man himself, in which I reminded him about those particular
titles. This was Baker's reply:
"I didn't think anyone remembered any of those songs.
'Teardrops Till Dawn' was one of my favorite records. I was
at the session and it was electrifying. I'm glad to find that
someone else liked it. I don't think the record was mastered
very well as I remember, and that hurt it as far as getting
airplay."
"Timi was a feisty character, but not overly so. She had
a
lot of enthusiasm. Sorry to hear about her health problems.
She had a powerful voice to say the least."
"As far as the 'Teardrops 'Till Dawn' session, I believe Nick
Venet was the producer. I recall Timi arguing with him over
something about the arrangement. As I said, the session was
electrifying and everyone felt it. Nitzsche was the arranger
and it was one of those "wall of sound" things that
night.
That's about all I remember, except they all thought it was
going to be a hit. There was something about the final
mix
and the mastering that made it sound sort of scratchy as
I
remember. It could have been done much better. And it SHOULD
have been."
"Please feel free to tell anyone about the site. An old
friend of mine who designs web sites did it for me and maybe
I'd better get him to add those song titles to the
list."
True to his word, Baker has since done exactly that.
Take
a look at his website at http://www.bakerknight.com
which
gives the lowdown on Baker's career, going back to his first
rock & roll band, Baker Knight & the Knightmares and includes
a great vintage pic. There's also a jukebox, where you can
download clips of selected songs.
And get this, Martin! - there's a separate page
dedicated to
the songs Baker wrote for Dean Martin in the late 60s, where
he's interviewed by John Chintala of the Dean Martin Fan
Center!!
Notwithstanding Baker's comments about the final mix,
Timi
Yuro's "Teardrops Till Dawn" remains a much sought-after
girl-group item. A rare combination of the Spector
sound and
the great "lost voice of soul", it's currently playing
at
musica.
Ian
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:25:55 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Attack on Attack/It's My Party - The CD
James Botticelli wrote: I almost had a caniption when they sang
"Attack". The lead was dead on. And those harmonies....better than
rekkids even!
The next night, some people (who shall remain nameless
but
one of them is a highly competent DJ) had a discussion about
how unsingable that song is and how poorly IMP did as well.
I was sorely disappointed as it's one of my favorite
songs of
all time and I thought IMP did a great job. I remain faithful
to one of the best songs ever!
I hope you and others picked up the IMP CD because it is
FABULOUS. Not pastiche either. Seven really good originals
and 5 wonderful covers. "Attack" is not on it but
what's there
is solid gold. Recorded, played and sung in a completely
authentic manner, apparently using old equipment. Not to be
missed! Go to their web site and order it if you want to get
a flavor for this wonderful group and a sense for the
TOP
quality of the S'Pop party!!!!
http://www.itsmypartyonline.com
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