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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Leiber-Stoller Story
From: David Feldman
2. Re: Baker Knight etc
From: Mikey
3. Re: Brian Hyland
From: JJ
4. Re: Linzer - Randell
From: Martin Roberts
5. Re: Cameo-Parkway/ Terry Knight
From: James Botticelli
6. Re: I Could Have Loved You So Well + more Pete Antell
From: Martin Roberts
7. Re. Please Please Me, Big O version.
From: Martin Roberts
8. Re: Johnny & The Hurricanes
From: David Coyle
9. Re: Bob Lind / Cheryl's Going Home
From: David Coyle
10. LP by Chad - No, not that one!
From: Art Longmire
11. Re: Terry Knight & The Pack
From: David Coyle
12. Re: Flo & Eddie
From: David Goodwin
13. Re: Association reissues on Collectors Choice
From: David Goodwin
14. Re: The Breakaways
From: M. Anthony
15. Re: Linzer & Randell
From: Mick Patrick
16. Re: The Faculty
From: Bob Rashkow
17. Re: Association reissues on Collectors Choice
From: Mikey
18. Re: Terry Knight
From: Andres
19. Special Request to any DJ's in USA
From: Rosemarie
20. Re: Donovan "mystery track"...
From: Declan Meehan
21. Re: Artie Wayne Website
From: Mark Frumento
22. Re: Peter Antell song
From: Mick Patrick
23. Jamie LePage - A Thank You
From: Martin Roberts
24. Re: Steinways
From: Simon White
25. Re: Johnny & The Hurricanes
From: Mikey
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:31:30 -0400
From: David Feldman
Subject: Leiber-Stoller Story
I only read one blog on a daily basis. It's Mark Evanier's "News
from Me" at http://www.newsfromme.com Mark tends to write primarily
about television, comics, and politics, with forays into theater and
other forms of popular culture. I thought Spectropop readers would
be interested in an entry from today. This is reprinted with Mark's
permission:
Rock and Roll Is Here To Stay
Watching the hoary programs that Game Show Network broadcasts in the
wee small hours, I'm struck by all sorts of realizations. One is that
adults in the fifties and early sixties actually thought rock-and-roll
music was an annoying fad that would be gone before long. The
panelists on What's My Line? (GSN is currently airing shows from 1958)
are forever making little parental mutterings about how what "the kids
today" listen to isn't really music. The other night, Bennett Cerf
congratulated a priest who was moonlighting as a disc jockey for never
playing rock-and-roll.
Last week, the panel and host gave short shrift to Jerry Leiber and
Mike Stoller, who came on as contestants -- and not even celebrity
contestants or anonymous contestants. They signed in under their own
names even though by then, they'd had a number of hit records. (In
case anyone reading this is unaware, Leiber and Stoller were for years
the all-time champs when it came to writing Top Ten songs. The list
includes "Charlie Brown," "Searchin'," "Ruby Baby," "I Keep
Forgetting," "Love Potion No.9," "Neighborhood," "Poison Ivy," "Some
Cats Know," "Framed," "Fools Fall In Love," "Love Me," "Riot In Cell
Block No. 9," "I Who Have Nothing," "Spanish Harlem," "Stand By Me,"
"Kansas City," "Smokey Joe's Cafe," "That Is Rock n Roll," "Bossa Nova
Baby," "Saved," "Trouble," "Pearl's A Singer," "Young Blood," "Don't,"
"I'm A Woman," "You Ain't Saying It," "Loving You," "Is That All There
Is?," "Yakety Yak," "On Broadway," "Jailhouse Rock," "Little Egypt"
and "Hound Dog.")
Elvis had recorded that last one two years earlier but the What's My
Line? panel didn't recognize the songwriters' names and treated them
like kids working at a burger stand. John Daly even said -- thinking
he was being nice, I guess -- "Well, maybe someday you'll do
something serious." Ouch. Maybe Mr. Daly can be forgiven. No one then
could have imagined that Leiber and Stoller -- and others of their
profession -- were doing work that would endure if not forever then
certainly through several generations. Recently when I saw a local
production of Smokey Joe's Cafe -- a revue of Leiber-Stoller material
that ran on Broadway for five years -- an entire auditorium of adults
knew every word to many of the tunes. The fellow who runs the theater
came out to introduce the show. To demonstrate the impact of Leiber
and Stoller's work, he yelled out, "Yakety Yak" and the whole audience
instantly responded with, "Don't talk back!" Bet you couldn't do that
with anything John Daly ever thought of.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:12:11 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Baker Knight etc
Clark, will you PLEASE post "Would You Believe It" to Musica
as a favor to a HUGE Don Adams fan? Thanks, brother!
Mikey
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:14:11 -0000
From: JJ
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
Clark Besch:
> JJ, there are a couple of CDs that have his lesser Philips 45s
> on them, but not sure what the names are. I have one of them
> (import). They are on Ebay all the time. Unfortunately, neither
> of the 2 songs I spoke of are on them. C'mon, Universal, let's
> get a comprehensive Hyland double CD at least!
**Any chance that I could get to hear the best mid-60´s BH trax? In
return I´ll let you hear some of my faves, non-BH trax! Please send
me a message, off-list, with your kind of Musical preferences.
JJ/Sweden
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:31:43 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Linzer - Randell
The utterly wonderful Simon White, keen to keep the Linzer-Randell thread
going, chucked some of their 'northern soul' records into the ring. And I
agree, 'northern', or whatever(!), they are great.
So many good records by this pair. One of my favourites: the Steinways'
"You've Been Leading Me On" (Oliver), first heard on one of the early
Kent reissue LPs, was (at the time) without doubt the greatest record ever
made!
I still love the record to bits but on checking the LP (still haven't got
the 45) I note that, despite Oliver being a Randell/Linzer label, only
Denny is credited as arranger & producer with Bob Rand as writer.
I know of only 5 releases on Oliver: 2 by the Steinways (I only know
one); the Pandoras' "SweetHeart, Sweetheart"/"Call Me" (both sides
terrific!); Sandy Williams' "California" (marvellous Beach Boys/Mamma &
Papas-style)/"When's My Baby Comin' Home" (good), and the last one I know
is best forgotten - Jimmy Harris "When We Were Friends"/"With You". (Sandy
Williams had an earlier(?) release on the 4 Corners label, again Linzer-
Randell and good).
Another earlier 45 every home should own, which I guess predates his
working with Sandy is a - so good they could well be on it - 04 Seasons
pastiche by Denny Randell, "Hey! Chickie Baby" on Cameo.
Martin
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:15:09 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway/ Terry Knight
Simon White wrote:
> Can anyone shed some light on Terry Knight? I have a spiffing
> version of the Mann/Weil song "Come Home Baby" on Cameo 495
> - also done, of course, by Wilson Pickett (and I need a decent
> 45 of this). The flip is called "Dirty Lady" and is rather
> Donovan-esque - and rather odd.
This is not based on documentable evidence, but recollection on my part,
admittedly dim on occasion. As I remember Terry Knight was a Detroit based
blue-eyed soulster prone to somewhat overblown interpretive nuance. For
example his best know record in these parts--a cover of Ben E. King's "I
(Who Have Nothing)" was almost Vanilla-Fudgian in its vocal gymnastics.
Production wise I recall Spectropoppish values however. If you can take an
aggressive vocal you may wanna look harder at him.
JB
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:04:49 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: I Could Have Loved You So Well + more Pete Antell
You'll have to be a bit quicker on uploading files, Don! Jack
Bedient's version of "I Could Have Loved You So Well" is in musica
and I'll leave it for a few days before swapping this for Jan
Burnnette.
Did anyone else notice at the tail end of the S'pop party a rather
super Spector/Righteous Brothers soundalike that Mick played? I hot
footed it to the decks where Mick proudly showed his new acquisition
courtesy of Pete Antell and released on Pete's own Bounty label. Mick
would have to remind me of the artist and song but while checking my
'Antells', besides "Warm Smoke" which should be known via "The
DynoVoice Story" CD I have one of the two solo records Pete recorded
for Bounty, a rockin' version of Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are A-
Changing". Quite fun.
Martin
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:57:56 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re. Please Please Me, Big O version.
Mikey proclaimed:
> The Roy Orbison-like version of "Please Please Me" no longer
> exists. For sure.
Oh, how I wish I could be this sure on anything!!
Sorry to miss you at the party, Mikey.
Martin
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Johnny & The Hurricanes
Yes, "It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World" and "Shadows" are
on the 2-CD Charly set I bought a while back. At 60
tracks of early '60s instrumentals, it can be a bit
much to digest at one time. I used to prefer the
sax-led numbers over the ones with the rinky-dink
organ, but as the years wore on and I got more
familiar with the group, I realized that the
organ-based tunes are what made the Hurricanes who
they were. Instrumental groups with a lead sax are a
dime a dozen. Rocked up folk numbers like "Red River
Rock" and "Beatnik Fly" are a lot of fun.
I also have 2 separate CDs of Johnny & The Hurricanes
live at the Star-Club Hamburg -- one in '62 when they
were being supported by the Beatles on their last
German club tour, and again in '64 when they had fully
succumbed to Beatlemania and started doing vocal
numbers and getting Beatle cuts. Pretty good stuff.
David
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:42:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Bob Lind / Cheryl's Going Home
"Cheryl's Going Home" was also covered by the
Hondells, the hotrodder group that originally did
"Little Cobra". I know it was on a single, but I don't
remember whether it was the a or b-side.
David
P.S. Bob Lind sounds so much like Glen Campbell on
"Elusive Butterfly", and I'd bet one major reason Lind
didn't get further than he did is that Glen came along
and did Glen Campbell much better than he could. Can
you imagine the "Bob Lind Goodtime Hour"?
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:48:19 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: LP by Chad - No, not that one!
Well, I did a little research on the "Chad" LP on Bell I mentioned
earlier-not only is there a bit more on it now on the internet than
when I last checked, but it is actually Chad Mitchell, not Chad
Stuart of Chad & Jeremy who recorded it. Just shows to go you, those
one-name monikers can really be confusing. What threw me off is Chad
Stuart always went by simply "Chad" in his pop music billing and so I
assumed it was him.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:05:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Terry Knight & The Pack
Before Terry Knight formed the Pack in 1965(?) he was
a deejay in Detroit. Terry Knight and the Pack did two
LPs for Cameo, then Knight split from the group,
became their producer and the Pack (at least
three-fifths of them) became Grand Funk Railroad.
Somewhere in the transition period, Knight and the
Pack released 45s independently of each other, Knight
doing the aforementioned version of "Come Home Baby"
and the band releasing "Wide Trackin'" as the Fabulous
Pack (no doubt tying in the single with Pontiac).
That Fabulous Pack single was definitely a sonic
precursor to Grand Funk, but there's little similarity
between the original Pack with Knight and the future
Funksters. Sure there were one or two good rockers,
especially on their eponymous debut LP, but having
been a deejay, Knight's vocals were too smooth for
garage rock, the Pack were too rockin' for Knight's
crooner sensibilities. Highlights of the TK&P era are
tracks such as their version of "Mister You're A
Better Man Than I," "Love Love Love Love Love" (later
covered by the Music Explosion), and "Numbers."
But the true sound of the Pack with Terry Knight is
evident in what was their bigger hit, a string-laden
version of Ben E. King's "I Who Have Nothing,"
complete with a dramatic spoken intro much like the
Tom Jones version from a couple years hence. Somewhere
in between you get the folk-rock of the blatantly
Dylanesque "Dimestore Debutante" and the
Grassroots-like "This Precious Time." Not to mention
an attempt at R&B with "One Monkey Don't Stop No
Show," the psych cash-in of "Love Goddess Of The
Sunset Strip," and the loner anthem "The Shut-In."
Somewhere in this schizophrenic mix, the Pack managed
to make the charts, particularly local radio charts in
Ohio and Michigan. Along the way, they got to my neck
of the woods, playing the Sugar Shack here in
Chillicothe with the Wildlife, a Columbia act from
Mansfield. But Knight finally realized he wasn't
exactly a rock and roll singer and once again went
behind the scenes, and thus begat Grand Funk Railroad.
A few years later, he parted ways with them, and
became another footnote in rock history. People will
want a deluxe CD reissue of Terry Knight and the
Pack's two albums just like they want anything
reissued from the Cameo-Parkway ouevre. But musically
speaking, there are only a handful of reasons to push
for it.
I'll take "Bad Time" or "Inside Looking Out" over
"What's On Your Mind" and "A Change On The Way" any
day.
David
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:34:55 -0500
From: David Goodwin
Subject: Re: Flo & Eddie
Previously on S'pop:
> Thanks Kurt. The original post referred to a Flo & Eddie boxed
> set. That got my curiosity up, though I suspect it was a mistake?
There *was* a three-disc boxed set of their solo material (I *think*
it was just solo material...I could be mistaken, as I haven't checked
it in some time) released on, IIRC, Rhino in the 80s. Vinyl only, though.
On CD, as far as I can tell only Moving Targets, Illegal Immoral and
Fattening, and Rock Steady with Flo and Eddie have been released, with
the "Best Of" on Rhino being the only representation of the other albums.
I'm surprised the Japanese never got around to it..
-D
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:44:41 -0500
From: David Goodwin
Subject: Re: Association reissues on Collectors Choice
> Collectors' Choice just sent me an email saying they're
> reissuing 6 Association albums on CD. Renaissance, Insight Out,
> Live, Birthday, Association, Stop Your Motor.
No first album? Bizarre.
The Japanese reissues were OK, but were of course *far* too
expensive...but these have no bonus tracks, and look far from
"definitive". Wasn't Warners UK putting out bonus-track laden
versions of these, along with the Beau Brummels albums?
-D
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:08:11 +0100 (BST)
From: M. Anthony
Subject: Re: The Breakaways
Previously on Spectropop:
> Does anyone out there know if there's a CD of The Breakaways?
> They're one of my favorite girl groups. I occasionally see a
> compilation CD with ONE song on, but nothing more. Boy, was I
> suprised to eventually learn they were from England! "That How
> It Goes" sounds like The Wall of Sound!
At present there is no Breakaways CD but there soon will be. The
item you desire will be released by UK Sanctuary on August 11th.
Catalogue number will be CMRCD 778. Tracklist follows:
THE BREAKAWAYS & Friends
THAT'S HOW IT GOES: The Pye Anthology
1. The Breakaways - That’s How It Goes
2. The Breakaways - He Doesn’t Love Me
3. The Breakaways - Here She Comes
4. The Breakaways - That Boy Of Mine
5. The Breakaways - Your Kind Of Love
6. The Tony Hatch Sound - Live For Life
7. The Breakaways - He Doesn’t Love Me (Previously unissued stereo version)
8. The Breakaways - That’s How It Goes (Previously unissued Stereo version)
9. Sandra Barry - We Were Lovers (When The Party Began)
10. Sandra Barry - Question
11. Petula Clark - I Know A Place
12. Petula Clark - Il Y A Tellement De Filles
13. Sharon Tandy - Now That You’ve Gone
14. Joe Brown - A Satisfied Mind
15. Mark Wynter - Running To You
16. Yvonne Prenosilova - When My Baby Cries
17. Julie Grant - Watch What You Do With My Baby
18. Julie Grant - Every Day I Have To Cry
19. John L. Watson & the Hummelflugs - Lookin’ For Love
20. Jimmy James & the Vagabonds - Red Red Wine
21. Tawney Reed - You Can't Take It Away
22. Jackie Trent - Love Is Me, Love Is You
23. Jackie Trent - Send Her Away
24. Tammy St. John - He’s The One For Me
25. Simone Jackson - Ain’t Gonna Kiss Ya
26. Mally Page - The Life And Soul Of The Party
27. Tony Jackson & the Vibrations - Bye Bye Baby
28. Jan Panter - Put Yourself In My Place
29. Jimmy Justice - Tell Her
30. Ken Cope - Hands Off, Stop Muckin' About
Still bedazzled.
M. Anthony
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:01:17 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Linzer & Randell
The recent exchanges concerning Linzer & Randell prompted me to
take the dooooooooooooomed "DynoVoice Story" 2CD set into work with
me today. (I know, I know, I'm totally spoiled, being able to play
music all day long.) For those whose eyesight isn't up to the job,
here's a paragraph about the duo, snipped from the CD booklet:
> Sandy Linzer and Denny Randell got together in 1964 and wasted
> little time establishing themselves as Bob Crewe's top
> songwriting team. Randell had a few out-of-Philly 45s of his
> own on his CV already, amongst them "I'm Back Baby", an answer-
> disc to the Angels' "My Boyfriend's Back". The recordings Linzer
> & Randell brainstormed for the Toys were true works of art while
> their more soulful creations for the Invitations were not far
> behind. Success at DynoVoice earned the two 24-year-olds a
> production deal with ABC Paramount who also awarded them their
> own Oliver label - the Steinways, anybody?. The duo also released
> a few singles of their own while their other compositions
> included Jay & the Techniques' 1967 hit "Keep The Ball Rolling"
> and Odyssey's "Native New Yorker" from a decade later. More
> recently Sandy Linzer has penned massive sellers for the likes of
> Kool & the Gang and Whitney Houston.
Denny Randell's above-mentioned "I'm Back Baby" is one of the many
cool records I picked up while in New York last week.
Mick Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:38:34 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: The Faculty
Art Longmire, you're right on target re The Faculty ("Elevators,
Escalators"). During much of the song they list different material
things, and seem to be asking that typical late-60's question "Why
and wherefore??" BTW have you checked out the B-side? It's
Nilsson's "Don't Leave Me" (he originally recorded it on the Aerial
Ballet LP) Not bad, not bad...... Bobster.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:46:24 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Association reissues on Collectors Choice
I want to know why they aren't releasing "And Then Along Comes - The
Association". It's a GREAT Lp.
Mikey
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:32:18 -0000
From: Andres
Subject: Re: Terry Knight
Simon White wrote:
> Can anyone shed some light on Terry Knight?
He also had one Beatle novelty recording back in 1969, called SAINT
PAUL, where he speculated on the 'Paul is dead' topic and even sang
the words 'Saint Paul' in the same way as the famous Hey Jude refrain.
Andres
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:51:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rosemarie
Subject: Special Request to any DJ's in USA
Could you please play 'Concreat & Clay' on Monday 30th June as it
will be Eddie Rambeau's 60th Birthday! And please could anyone else
that remembers Eddie leave a message in our guestbook for him on Monday...
Thanks a bunch!!!!
Rosemarie
http://www.edrambeau.com
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:35:12 -0000
From: Declan Meehan
Subject: Re: Donovan "mystery track"...
JJ:
> Anyone heard the Karen Verros version (of "You Just Gotta Know My
> Mind")?
Karen Verros's version of 'you just gotta know my mind' can be found
on one of the 'Girls in the Garage' bootlegs, on both vinyl and CD.
It's a great version of a great track though very similair to Dana
Gillespie's, but minus harpsicord and more 'garagey'. Thinking about
unreleased Donovan tracks: anyone know if 'Be not too hard' from the
film 'Poor Cow' was ever released and what about tracks recorded by
the McKinleys and others?
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:42:12 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne Website
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I want to to invite you back to my new website..........which
> is finally finished.
Artie - this site is wonderful. There is a lot to explore!
Someone on another message board brought you up in connection with
your song "One by One" as performed by the Mockingbirds. I saw that
you mentioned this last year on Spectropop. Have you ever talked to
Graham about how they got to know the song? Is it likely they heard
the album or a demo? As you said before their version is great and
it's a great song.
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:40:58 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Peter Antell song
Martin Roberts:
> Did anyone else notice at the tail end of the S'pop party
> a rather super Spector/Righteous Brothers soundalike that
> Mick played? I hot footed it to the decks where Mick proudly
> showed his new acquisition courtesy of Pete Antell and
> released on Pete's own Bounty label. Mick would have to
> remind me of the artist and song...
The great record you remember was "(Baby) You Don't Have To
Tell Me" by Bobby Coleman, as covered by the Walker Brothers.
It has actually been discussed on S'pop before. Click here,
then scroll down to message #7 to read more:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/d459.htm
I made a point of playing records by all of the VIPs at our
NY Shindig! Not that I knew in advance who was likely to turn
up, or anything :-)
One of the special moments for me was as I was playing the
Cookies' "I Never Dreamed", the one and only Margaret Ross
stormed the decks and yelled at me that she was the lead
singer on the track. "I know," I said. "That's why I'm playing
it!" We laughed! The whole New York experience has left me with
a glow (or is it sunburn?) that I hope lasts a long time.
The S'pop Discussion Forum Archives are a great source of info.
Click here and search away:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/ It's easy.
Mick Patrick
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:01:24 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jamie LePage - A Thank You
It's hard to believe it is two and half years since I defied
conventional wisdom and invited all Spectropoppers to a party
at my house. Although small by the present standards, the party
was a great success. Long-standing friendships were strengthened
and new friends made.
Jamie LePage was one of the most enthusiastic supporters of the
party. He couldn't be there but he rightly considered it an
extension of the online community he had created and took great
delight in its success. Imagine how proud he would be now to see
that, not only has the group continued to grow and prosper under
the stewardship of the present Admin Team, but that the uniting
and friendships of its members has physically crossed several
continents.
A wonderful tribute to Jamie, the current Admin Team and all of us.
Martin
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:50:07 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Steinways
Martin Roberts wrote:
> So many good records by this pair. One of my favourites:
> the Steinways' "You've Been Leading Me On" (Oliver), first
> heard on one of the early Kent reissue LPs, was (at the time)
> without doubt the greatest record ever made!
Martin, does your good taste know no bounds? It is a truly
marvellous record and was reissued here as a single on Kent
Records. I think it was a solo Denny Randell production. Lead
singer was Frankie Gearing of the Laddins/Glories/Quiet Elegance
fame. And unless my memory has gone haywire (again) I have a
feeling The Steinways is the group that visited the UK as
"The Platters" in the 60s.
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:58:14 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Johnny & The Hurricanes
David....What is the the title and # of the CD that has
Johnny and the Hurricanes doing vocals and Beatle type stuff?
Thanks,
Mikey
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