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SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Linda Laurie
From: Mick Patrick
2. Re: Reparata & the Delrons / Cha Cha Charming
From: Mick Patrick
3. Re: Would You Believe / Beverly Warren
From: Mick Patrick
4. Re: Terry Knight & The Pack
From: Sebastian Fonzeus
5. After The Party
From: Sheila
6. Re: Flo & Eddie
From: Steve Harvey
7. Another Johnny Rivers track
From: Mike Edwards
8. Re: Johnny Rivers, Jimmy Webb track
From: Bill Craig
9. Re: Re: Terry Knight
From: Eddy
10. Vivian Stanshall
From: Harkit Records
11. Saturday Morning Playlist - Number 7248 in an occasional series.
From: Simon White
12. Beverly Warren
From: Martin Roberts
13. Re: Vivian Stanshall
From: Eddy
14. Rupert Holmes
From: Richard Havers
15. Re: Pete Antell & the Percells
From: Mick Patrick
16. Re: Iffy Dex
From: James Botticelli
17. Re: Cameo-Parkway/ Terry Knight
From: Frank Uhle
18. Re: Please Please Me (slowly...)
From: Andres
19. Re: Beverly Warren / Let Me Get Close To You
From: Don
20. Re: Johnny And The Hurricanes
From: David Coyle
21. Re: Brian Hyland
From: David Coyle
22. Re: Vivian Stanshall
From: Michael Stroggoff
23. Re: (Dance With The) Guitar Man / Darlene Love
From: Justin McDevitt
24. Re: Johnny Rivers, Jimmy Webb track
From: Art Longmire
25. Re: Japanese 1960s girl pop
From: Bill Reed
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:50:49 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Linda Laurie
Brian Ferrari wrote:
> I have uploaded a couple of pics of Linda Laurie - the first
> is from Australian Women's Weekly: Teenager's Weekly, August
> 1959: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/photos There
> are two articles - one is titled "Linda Laurie Loves Leotards!"
> It looks like a candidate for the RPM Dream Babes artwork. The
> second article has the 17 year old (who was in Australia with a
> package tour at the time) offering tips to catch boys. She
> should have been a Shangri-La.
Hey Brian,
The Linda Laurie fella, right? Good to meet you at the NY Shindig!
I was *totally* stressed out at the time. I blame *iffy* decks
and rather large measures at the bar. Hey ho. I just posted to the
S'pop photos section a scan of a nice 7" EP by the "Ambrose" gal,
released on the French Atlantic label. It cost me just £1 at a
London Record Fair, one of my few recent bargains. Click right here
and enjoy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/photos Is that
Linda on the cover, or a suitably themed "library" shot?
I'd love to read the two articles you mention. Any chance?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:23:16 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons / Cha Cha Charming
Ray wrote:
> ...What a great idea it would have been to take pictures during
> Reparata's sessions but, at that time, I never gave it a thought.
> ...I do remember that Harry Belafonte was recording in the room
> next door, and when he was finished, he came in to watch the
> Reparata session...I also remember that four songs were recorded
> during that session...Nobody's Baby...I Can Hear The Rain....
> Always Waiting...and...My Hero. The backup group included the
> Delrons (Lorraine and Nanette) and Melba Moore, and another
> singer whom I didn't know...
Hi Ray,
You're right, we love Reparata & the Delrons here on planet S'pop.
Have you yet checked out the new issue of Sheila's magazine Cha Cha
Charming? If not, I'd recommend you do so *tout suite* 'coz among
the new features is an article about the "Whenever A Teenager Cries"
gals written by the lovely Charlotte Greig and yours truly. Don't
*panic*, just click here: http://www.chachacharming.com
I've also placed a great picture of the trio in the S'pop photo file:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/photos Enjoy.
Is "My Hero" the same song as recorded so wonderfully by Renee St
Clair? Or is your memory not *that* good? :-)
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:23:18 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Would You Believe / Beverly Warren
Ian Chapman:
> Hmmm.....one of the stars of the Spectropop Shindig, the
> lovely Beverly Warren, also did something similar in '66,
> entitled "Would You Believe". This had a Maxwell Smart
> voice cutting in throughout the song. It's on the flip of
> Beverly's northern BT Puppy 45, "So Glad You're My Baby"....
> ...which I don't have, so I can't check the writing credits
> - is it the same as the Baker Knight song?
Beverly Warren's "Would You Believe" was written by Arnold
Christie and Joseph Hornsby. If I'd have remembered what a
nice track "So Glad You're My Baby" is, I'd have taken the 45
with me to NY to spin. As it happens, Miss Warren's "Let Me
Get Close To You" got played instead. Did Carole King and
Gerry Goffin ever write a more delicious song, I ask myself?
Beverly has a chapter to herself in John Clemente's book Girl
Groups. You all knew that already, right? If not, find out
more here: http://www.spectropop.com/gg/girl.html
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
(Obviously experiencing *displacement* this evening)
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 00:39:13 +0200
From: Sebastian Fonzeus
Subject: Re: Terry Knight & The Pack
Hi!
David Coyle wrote:
> I'll take "Bad Time" or "Inside Looking Out" over "What's On
> Your Mind" and "A Change On The Way" any day.
"Bad Time"!!! What a tune! Absolutely magnificent pop! :)
And the Jayhawks version ain't bad either.
Take care!
/Sebastian
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:41:28 -0400
From: Sheila
Subject: After The Party
Hi everyone:
A week has passed, and I too am still reveling in the afterglow of
last weekend's events! I would like to thank all those who made
Shindig! the perfect celebration of sixties pop music. As I was
telling Country Paul, I feel the success and magic of this weekend
was due to our collaborative efforts. We pooled together our love of
'60s pop, Spectropop, and our individual talents to make a weekend
that was truly unforgettable.
I'm glad to see that It's My Party have been the talk of Spectropop
in recent days. Perhaps the best part of Shindig! for me was watching
everyone watch It's My Party. When I first saw them live two years
ago (with a completely different line-up), I felt that this was the
closest I was going to get to experiencing an authentic sixties girl
group. I really wanted other '60s pop fans/ Spectropoppers to share
this incredible experience, which is why I was so keen to have them
at the Spectropop party.
I have just completed a "Shindig! After The Party" page for Cha Cha
Charming. For lots of photos and a review of the party, please visit:
http://www.chachacharming.com/events.php
I'm moving to Tokyo in 2 weeks, so I shall be in touch from there.
Sheila
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Flo & Eddie
The Rhino boxset of vinyl was everything from their career, not
just Flo and Eddie. Don't forget the Checkpoint Charlie 12 inch
ep on Rhino which was all Flo and Eddie.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:54:41 -0400
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Another Johnny Rivers track
One Johnny Rivers track I have not been able to find is his last 45,
"Heartbreak Love", which came out on MCA in 1984. Can anyone help?
Thanks, Mike Edwards
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:19:05 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Re: Johnny Rivers, Jimmy Webb track
Art Longmire wrote:
> I like this whole (Rewind) LP but the "Eleventh Song" is the
> one that has really attracted me over the years.
Hey Art,
I am also a big fan of this LP. A friend of mine became friendly
with Jimmy Webb in the mid-90s and I gave him my original vinyl copy
of Rewind to have J.W. hopefully autograph it. Unfortunately they lost
touch with each other and I never got my autograph OR my record back!
I think my fave cut is "Rosecrans Boulevard".
Anyway, Jimmy - if you ever read these posts and you remember a guy
named Andy Luria who might have given you a Johnny Rivers album to
sign....
Bill Craig
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:49:28 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Re: Terry Knight
And another Beatles connection...there was talk of Apple releasing a TK&P
album. I seem to remember it was supposed to be an archive release (an
old live tape maybe). Anybody have any details on this?
Eddy
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:44:18 -0000
From: Harkit Records
Subject: Vivian Stanshall
I have been trying to locate a copy (was it ever released?) of
Vivian Stanshall's "Men Opening Umbrellas Ahead" on UK Warners
LP. If anybody can help, please let me know. Thanks!
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:56:18 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Saturday Morning Playlist - Number 7248 in an occasional series.
By request - 01 . Devils Drive - Big Boris - RCA
2. I Could have Danced All Night - Peggy Lee - Capitol
3. Without Her - Preston Guild - Guild
4. What's The Password - The Elites -ERA
5. Sally Go Round the Roses - Luke Hoffman And His Group - Pop Parade
6. My Baby Just Cares For Me - Vic Damone
7. Avenues And Alleyways - Tony Christie - MCA
8. You Never Know - Johnny Nash - MGM
9. Never On Sunday - 'Groove' Holmes - Prestige
10. Recueredos de la Alhambra - Jose Louis Hidalgo y Su Trompeta - Sintonia
11. Ciao Baby - Mel Torme - Columbia
12. Don't Come Crying To Me - Eden Kane - Philips
13. The Sun's Message - The Butlers - Liberty Bell
14. I Love The Way He Calls Me Baby - The Shalimars - Verve
15. Roses And Rainbows - Danny Hutton - Pye International
16. The Locomotion - Cyril Stapleton and His Showband - Decca
17. Do Me A Favour - Howard Carpenter - Electrola
18. My French Love - Al Erik - Johnson
19. Don't Tell Anyone - Marsha Brody - 20th Century
20. Big Town - Carmen McCrae - Kapp
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:12:29 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Beverly Warren
Hi Ian,
The writers of "Would You Believe" are Christie-Hornsby. Shame
you missed Beverly and the party!
Martin
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:09:50 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Vivian Stanshall
Someone asked:
> I have been trying to locate a copy (was it ever released?) of
> Vivian Stanshall's "Men Opening Umbrellas Ahead" on UK Warners
> LP. If anybody can help, please let me know. Thanks!
It was indeed released, but in a UK limited edition only.
Read more here: http://www.petitiononline.com/MOUA/
Eddy
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:53:00 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Rupert Holmes
I recently bought a Rupert Holmes CD on Amazon. It was cheap and I was
curious as to what it was, as there was no track listing.
When it arrived it was clearly a pre Widescreen collection of tracks.
Some of which do not even sound like Rupert Holmes on vocals. He had a
hand in writing most of them, including some with Vance and Pockriss.
There are also some V&P only tracks.
The list is as follows
Savannah
How do you like them apples
Wanting you
I wonder what happened to sally
Stagecoach
Robins World
Thank you pretty baby
Foundation of Love (the Cds title)
There's so little time
The Indian
Sandy
Thank you girl
All the young women
Ginger snap
The world doesn't matter anymore
The question is are they RH releases, other peoples in some cases, or
just demos....a mixture of all that?
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
Richard
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:24:44 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Pete Antell & the Percells
Mike Edwards wrote:
> Pete Antell was one of the guests at the Shindig Party in
> Manhattan on June 20th. Pete chatted with us and offered
> some background info on his hit record, "Night Time" (Cameo
> 234 from late '62)..."Night Time" is now playing in musica:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
> ...Pete went on to record for Bob Crewe's New Voice label,
> releasing the very tasty "Warm Smoke" in 1967...
Hey la,
Great to meet you at the Shindig, Mike. A little bird informs
me that Pete Antell has collaborated with John Clemente in
writing The Percells Story for publication on S'pop. We'd all
better keep checking the New At Spectropop section but The Team
will no doubt keep us informed.
In the meantime, I've placed a cool 1963 shot of the Percells
in the photo file. That's Pete Antell on the right and his
regular songwriting partner John Linde on the left. Pete doesn't
appear to have changed much in 40 years. Click right here and
enjoy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/photos
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:56:32 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Iffy Dex
*Stressed* Mick said:
> I blame *iffy* decks
I think that plague has hit Metropolis at large...
JB/never met a deck in Gotham he's liked!
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:45:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Uhle
Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway/ Terry Knight
Though I would agree that Terry Knight and the Pack, from my home state of
Michigan, didn't record much memorable material, their first couple of 45s
on Lucky 11 are GREAT. The first, "How Much More," is a bona fide garage
rock classic, and easily their best recording for my money. It features
some tasty bursts of fuzz guitar and lyrics about being hassled because of
the singer's long hair (I assume this is Knight, who belts it out in a
fabulously punky yet put-upon sounding voice). This cut, the flipside of
"I've Been Told," was not on any of their albums, though it has appeared
on several garage rock compilations (Chosen Few Vol. 2, and others). The
second Lucky 11 45 contains a really cool version of "Got Love" (aka "Got
Love If You Want It") with moody organ and echoey production. That, and
its flipside "You're A Better Man Than I" is on the first Pack lp (as is
"I've Been Told"). Apparently A&M put out a single _before_ these, "You
Lie"/"Kids Will Be The Same," which I've never even seen. Anybody heard
it? It's listed on the http://www.borderlinebooks.com garage/psychedelic
rock database of U.S. 60s bands.
Frank Uhle
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:04:32 -0000
From: Andres
Subject: Re: Please Please Me (slowly...)
Mikey proclaimed:
> The Roy Orbison-like version of "Please Please Me" no longer
> exists. For sure.
Martin Roberts reacted:
> Oh, how I wish I could be this sure on anything!!
Here is what's written in the 'Mario Giannella Beatles Songs' book:
09/11/62 London, EMI Studio 2
takes unknown, original slow version (:)- tape destroyed
Andres (if only we can trust Mario)
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:33:58 -0000
From: Don
Subject: Re: Beverly Warren / Let Me Get Close To You
Mick Patrick wrote:
> As it happens, Miss Warren's "Let Me Get Close To You" got played
> instead. Did Carole King and Gerry Goffin ever write a more
> delicious song, I ask myself?
"Let Me Get Close To You" is a great song and was also recorded by
Skeeter Davis, Jody Miller, and Alex Chilton. It seems Carole and
Gerry may have written an answer song to this one. There is a song
called "Try And Get Close To Me" and I think it was recorded by
Skeeter Davis, though I have never heard it. Has anyone else?
Don
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Johnny And The Hurricanes
Mikey:
> David....What is the the title and # of the CD that
> has Johnny and the Hurricanes doing vocals and Beatle
> type stuff?
The titles of the CDs are "Johnny And The Hurricanes
Live At The Star-Club Hamburg, Vol. 1 and 2." I will
look up the number for you, but I do know they were
reissued on the Atila label, apparently by Johnny
Paris himself a few years ago. Possibly limited run
jobs, I bought them at a record show.
The interesting thing is that Vol. 1 was apparently
recorded New Year's Day 1963, when the famed Beatles
tapes were made between Christmas Day and New Years
Eve of 1962. There is a lot less audience noise on the
tape, which means if the date is right, a lot of
people didn't stay past the Beatles set. The second
volume has Johnny mentioning that Jerry Lee Lewis
would be playing there soon, dating that one close to
the recording of Lewis's set there in '64.
I'll look up the numbers, and the address that I think
was given for Atila Records, but these are pretty old
and may no longer be in print in any form.
David
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
I wouldn't mind seeing a mid-period compilation of
Brian Hyland's work. I would take "The Joker Went
Wild" and his version of the Impressions' "Gypsy
Woman" over "SWAK" and "Itsy Bitsy Teenie-Weenie etc."
any day. I remember finding the Philips 45 of "Joker"
in a snatch of singles I bought, never having heard
the song before -- very good song, with interesting
production.
David
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:43:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Stroggoff
Subject: Re: Vivian Stanshall
Eddy:
> (The Viv Stanshall LP) was indeed released, but in a UK limited
> edition only. Read more here: http://www.petitiononline.com/MOUA/
Thank you for this interesting link....
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:05:18 -0700
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Re: (Dance With The) Guitar Man / Darlene Love
Hi Mick and Spectropop friends,
As a person who has lived with bouts of insomnia these last 20 or so
years, I have tried over the years to put the pre-dawn "awake hours"
to good use, rather than lying in my bed reviewing the laundry list
of things in my life which could be better, should be better, need
to get resolved etc. At this point the little guy with the T-shirt
featuring the big anxiety logo takes center stage.
I am heartened to know that you put this particular insomnia episode
to good use.
I recognize that 1963 was a banner year for Darlene Love, yet didn't
realize to what extent her hand, or rather voice was in the other
songs which you reference. I am familiar with these tracks and as I
mentally put a quarter in the jukebox to hear them, or better yet,
play them on my stallwart late 70s turntable, I can definitely hear
her voice; and they say that blind people have superior hearing;
(one of many myths about us, we just utilize this sense in its
fullest capacity, at least some of us try too).
What I need to do is have Mr Whitburn's book transcribed into
braille, though I'm sure this voluminous tome runs to some 800-900
plus pages. Now how many braille volumes would that be?
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 20:12:06 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: Re: Johnny Rivers, Jimmy Webb track
Bill Craig:
> I am also a big fan of this LP. A friend of mine became friendly
> with Jimmy Webb in the mid-90s and I gave him my original vinyl
> copy of Rewind to have J.W. hopefully autograph it. Unfortunately
> they lost touch with each other and I never got my autograph OR my
> record back! I think my fave cut is "Rosecrans Boulevard".
Hello, Bill!
You are right about this album, it's really a classic...everything
comes together on it-Rivers and Webb in their prime, the playing and
arrangements are wonderful. I like "Rosecrans Boulevard" a lot too,
although my favorite version is the one by the Fifth Dimension, who
also recorded "Eleventh Song" on one of their albums. I'd probably
have to hear directly from Johnny or Jim to find out info on the
recording sessions.
regards
Art Longmire
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 20:15:46 -0000
From: Bill Reed
Subject: Re: Japanese 1960s girl pop
Chris:
> I know a bit about the 60s garage groups from Japan, but virtually
> nothing about the pop. Any pointers are most welcome?
I posted the following to a "Favorite Tracks" web sitea while back. I
would like to re-post it here. It seems germane to Chris' query. To
whit:
I am a follower of Japanese pop music, not just young further-out
acts/groups like Cornelius (a master of tape loops), Shinichi Osawa
(ANOTHER master of loops) and Love Psychedelico (think Beatles Meets
Velvet Underground). But also that strain of Japanese pop which draws
heavily on the stylistic traditions of the usual Brill Building
suspects. i.e. solo Nihogo artists like Epo, Mayo Okamoto, and
Mariko Takahashi, et al, especially the latter's tracks with
arrangements by the great Tomaji Sogawa. Also Chage and Aska, Eichi
Ohtaki, (sometimes called Japan's Phil Spector), Kazuhiko Katoh (his
Sadistic Mika Band had a couple of LP's released in the west), the
young acapella groups Gospellers and Rag Fair and, of course,
Pizzicato Five.
But I am especially drawn to the efforts of the great Japanese rock
star Tatsuro Yamashita as a solo artist, and of his tracks as
arranger-musician with his wife, Mariya Takeuchi, released under her
name. She has been recording since the mid-1980s, and Tats (as he is
affectionately known by his fans) since the late seventies. They are
the Lunts of J-Pop.
His first album was co-produced and arranged in the U.S. by the Four
Seasons' Charles Callelo. Tats often sings in English, sometimes
with original lyrics (not translations) by the U.S. songwriter-
performer Alan O'Day. His three-volume set of overdubbed, acapella,
doo-wop, "On the Street Corner" is w/o question. . .. Oh, don't get
me started.
There are a number of other artists such as these in Japan with
uncommonly lengthy---by U.S. standards---careers. And believe it or
not, a hit record in Japan sells in numbers that are generally far
larger than the U.S. despite a population that is roughly half as
large. Even new recordings by surviving traditional 50s Enka (a form
of sentimental Japanese balladry) artists often hit the top ten.
One of my favorite Takeuchi - Yamashita collaborations (she writes
and sings, he arranges) is "Let's Get Married," which would most
likely not be perceived as being retro or sixties or somesuch by the
more flexible and openminded Japanese music audience. . .even though,
admittedly it does draw upon such musical conceits. Instead, "Let's
Get Married" would merely be regarded as a great record, case closed.
This 1984 Takeuchi track is timelessly, and extra-territorily
infectuous. But with the exception of Kyu Sakamoto in 1963 with his
fluke number one single, "Sukiyaki," to the best of my knowledge no
Japanese artist of any musical inclination has been able to crack the
U.S. charts in any significant way. (Tho' the "idol" group Pink Lady
did make it all the way to no. 35 or so one time.) General garden
variety xenophobia coupled with a hard time wrapping the tongue
around those hard-to-pronounce names with too many vowels and
syllables. It is doubtful that LGM, even though it is sung by
Takeuchi in perfectly accented English, was ever released in the U.S.
Starting with a full blown fanfare of the Wedding March played on
organ by Academy Award-winning musician Ryuichi Sakamoto, after a
handful of neo-classical bars, "Let's Get Married" abruptly switches
gears and mood and becomes an ever-ascending excercise in neo-
Spectorian pop, replete with castinets, chimes, a swirling ooh-wah
background chorale (courtesy of an overdubbed Yamashita), multiple
drumkits, a full complement of string players and plenty of good old
fashioned Gold Star Studio-style echo. A paen to the joys of
marriage, my favorite moment happens at 1:42 way down in the mix
right after Takeuchi sings the line "You and me with a small house
and a dog," where, if you listen carefully you can hear the sound of
a dog yapping for joy. Homage to the "Pet" at the end of Brian
Wilson's "Caroline, No" perhaps? Tats' credits for the track
read: "drums, electric guitar, acoustic guitar, keyboards, electric
sitar, marima, vibes, glocken, percussion, background vocals and BOW
WOW" (emphasis mine). And on tenor sax, Ernie Watts (always a good
sign).
Both Yamashita and Takeuchi had number one albums in Japan last year.
Unlike most of their 70s and 80s U.S. rock/pop counterparts, they
have not been cast aside by the bulk of Japanese record buyers, but
continue to peak at the top of the charts with every new issue. A
listen to this perfectly crafted, classic, three minute (well. . .
3:45 actually) track should help illustrate why this is so.
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