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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Electric Screwdriver
From: Michael Edwards
2. Re: Chiffons' "Stop Look & Listen"
From: Shawn Baldwin
3. Chiffons
From: Michael Edwards
4. Lady Luck & the Lullabies
From: Tony Baylis
5. Re: Private Label Elvis duets album
From: Steve Harvey
6. Star Revue in LA
From: Michael Edwards
7. Re: Chiffons, "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On In My Mind But Me"
From: Will Stos
8. Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
From: Mike Rashkow
9. Re: Dantes
From: Dan Hughes
10. Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
From: Den Lindquist
11. Re: FF&Z
From: Lor
12. RE: Star Revue in LA
From: Martin Roberts
13. UK London label prefixes
From: Austin Powell
14. Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
From: Stephane Rebeschini
15. Chiffons' "Nobody Knows" . . . Who Sang Lead?
From: Stuffed Animal
16. Re: Chiffons
From: Phil Chapman
17. The Ronettes In Stereo
From: Paul Urbahns
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:53:00 -0400
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Electric Screwdriver
Paul Urbahns writes:
>Does anyone on this list have any albums credited to The
>Electric Screwdriver. I just missed on on ebay not long ago.
>They are sound-a-likes of current hits in the early 70s.
I used to work for Black & Decker in the late 70s; it was
the first of many US companies I was fired from. We were given
these albums on management training courses. I guess if I had
listened to them I would have been a more successful employee.
I don't have any left.
Mike
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:20:04 -0500
From: Shawn Baldwin
Subject: Re: Chiffons' "Stop Look & Listen"
Tony:
> Judy still does gigs with the group, but she
> also works at a medical office and lives up in the Bronx.
Was Judy the lady who sang with The Chiffons on the Hey La Hey
Girl Groups Are Back PBS Special?
Shawn
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:40:09 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Chiffons
>From my good buddy and Brown alumni, Country Paul:
>While I appreciate "One Fine Day", "He's So Fine", and the big
>hits, the Chiffons - whether from their own inspiration or that of
>inspired producers, management and/or writers - that enabled them to
>experiment "outside the box"' too. To wit, the beautiful "What Am I
>Gonna Do With You" and the remarkable "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On
>(In My Mind But Me)", two brilliant recordings, and in the case
>of "Nobody", a truly progressive pop record. (Acknowledging the oft-
>cited uneven quality of their ouevre, I still never realized their
>Laurie catalog was 50+ songs deep!)
Paul, you're not far wrong but the above two songs get a lot of
attention. How about the Chiffons "inside the box"? I've got two:
(1) "Easy To Love" – a great Goffin-King tune from 1964 that
bubbled under at # 105
(2) "Did You Ever Go Steady" – this one written by the Tokens and
originally a track on their 1963, "One Fine Day" LP, although most of
us heard it as the b-side of "Sweet Talkin' Guy" in 1966.
Classic Chiffons. And while we are on the subject, wasn't it an
absolute joy to hear "Sweet Talkin' Guy" on the radio in the summer
of '66?
Mike
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:51:35 -0000
From: Tony Baylis
Subject: Lady Luck & the Lullabies
Anybody familiar with, or have any info on, this group?
[Lady Luck & The Lullabies] Only one release that I am
aware of, and that was 1963. Released in the U.K. on the
Philips lable, BF 1245, A side 'Young Stranger', written by
C.Singleton/H.Ott. B side 'Dance', B.Everette/M.Singleton.
(Margie Singleton presumably). Definitely a female lead,
but the Lullabies are male, although their contribution is
mainly a bunch of Dooby Dooby etc.
And a second question ... re the wonderful London American
lable. Was there any rhyme or reason to the numbering systems
prefix letters? eg. HL 8750, HLG 9352, HL-U 8852. This is
something I have pondered for years .. sometimes only 2
letters, mostly three letters though, although some were
hyphenated and some weren't ....
Cheers
Tony Baylis
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:16:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Private Label Elvis duets album
There was a duet with Linda Ronstadt that may have even been
released as a single. Pretty awful from what I was told.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:14:40 -0400
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Star Revue in LA
Thanks for the heads-up, Martin. Looks like it's going to be
a great show. The details are at:
http://www.millenniumwomen.net/doo-wop.htm
>From the URL: "Among the invited guests of honor are:
THE MEADOWLARKS, THE BLOSSOMS MARY CLAYTON, THE DUALS,
DOROTHY BERRY, GRECIA NITZSCHE, THE PLATTERS, HB BARNUM,
CHER, GLEN CAMPBELL, JOHNNY GAMBOA, ARTHUR REAVES, ARTHUR
WRIGHT, GAYNELL HODGES, CARRIE WILLIAMS, THE CALVANES and many
more friends of STAR REVUE.."
But have you seen the performance times? 11:00 a.m. - 02 :00 p.m.
on Friday July 18, 2003. Only in California - land of the 3 hour
lunch breaks. I note from the URL the H.B. Barnum-Jack Nitzsche
connection that you have mentioned to me before, Martin.
Mike
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 02:31:11 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: Chiffons, "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On In My Mind But Me"
What I find interesting is that this record came out just after
the lawsuit they filed against the Tokens and Bright Tunes. Does
anyone know what happened with the suit? The Tokens seemed to
still be involved with later recordings and they released the
1970 album. You'd think after a group brought you to court and
then was forced to come back to their old label that they wouldn't
waste top material on them. Or would they? I really wonder if they
thought the record would work at the time, or if they figured they'd
try releasing it under a well-known group's name to see if it would
click. The follow-up "Tonight I'm Gonna Dream b/w The Heavenly Place"
wasn't too similar, and it didn't chart. I'm also wondering if they
used Sylvia instead of Judy on lead vocals because Judy was pregnant
at the time and wasn't touring? I know she wasn't with the group when
they apeared on Shindig or in their movie cameo. Anyone know what was
happening during this time?
Will : )
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:41:22 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
Which came first?
Monday Kind Of Friday - Dawn's Early Light
or
Friday Kind Of Monday - Ellie Greenwich
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 07:50:53 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Dantes
David remembers:
> It was a great week for garage/pop type records, particularly
> local ones as the chart also featured the Dantes...
David, I bought a 45 by the Dantes for a dime in fall 1966 from a
record store's close-out table in Lafayette, Indiana when I was a
student at Purdue. I used to play it on my radio show; I believe it
was Under My Thumb, with maybe a Donovan song on the flip side?
Long time ago! Cameo-Parkway perhaps? Very fuzzy memory....
---Dan, http://members.soltec.net/~dan/danhsigs.htm
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:51:01 -0400
From: Den Lindquist
Subject: Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
> I just discovered and joined your group - mostly because of
> a song, "Monday Kind of Friday" by Dawn's Early Light.
> Thirty-some years ago, my best friend, Eddie, was a member
> of this group. This was my Bronx buddy's first (and final)
> involvement in a hit record; just as the record was released
> he was drafted, did a hitch in the Navy and that was the end
> of his career in pop music.
I played the song "Monday Kind of Friday" back in April, '02...
and it's back there again:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Any background on this song would be most welcome. It was
played on WOR-FM in New York in July, 1967.
Here is the info from the label, from my 45 library:
Dawn's Early Light - Monday Kind Of Friday (Diamond 224)
(writer: Danny Jordan). A Wild Prod. by Singleton for
Shelby Singleton Productions, Inc.
..and, speaking of Shelby Singleton Productions - a lot of good
music from that stable.
Den.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:18:11 -0000
From: Lor
Subject: Re: FF&Z
Thanks for the response. Does anyone know if any material by this
band is available, all my searches fail to come up with anything.
Perhaps there is a track hidden on a compilation somewhere ?
Many thanks, Lor
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:22:21 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: RE: Star Revue in LA
Hello Mike,
When I said party I didn't mean paper hats and loud music -
it's not a Spectropop gathering for goodness sake! - I assume
it's more a get-together which also seems 'biz' related.
I've also been told that the area of LA it's in is NOT the
kinda place a 'visitor' would want to go to at night! One other
thing, the guests have been 'invited' - I invited The Queen Mum
to my last party but she never showed, shame! - nevertheless the
invite list sure looks interesting.
Martin
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:56:22 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: UK London label prefixes
Tony Baylis wrote:
> And a second question ... re the wonderful London American
> label. Was there any rhyme or reason to the numbering systems
> prefix letters? eg. HL 8750, HLG 9352, HL-U 8852.
Tony: How l-o-n-g have you got ?????
Basically the third letter denoted the US origin of the recording.
"G" was product from the Liberty label, "K" and "E" was Atlantic/Atco
and if memory serves "A" denoted masters from Cadence, "D" was Dot,
"T" was United Artists and "P" was Imperial etc., etc., "U" seemed
to be used for a sort of catch-all from very small US indies.
I believe the code also had something to do with the rights that
London held which sometimes was not only for the UK but for other
Commonwealth territories and parts of Europe. I supose it was a
way of keeping track of all their licenses. London seemd to be
the only label that employed this system as Top Rank and Pye
International which equally had a host of US product did not.
Austin Powell
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:12:45 +0200
From: Stephane Rebeschini
Subject: Re: "Monday Kind of Friday"
Mike Rashkow a écrit :
> Which came first?
> Monday Kind Of Friday - Dawn's Early Light
> or
> Friday Kind Of Monday - Ellie Greenwich
Let's not forget "It's A Monday Kind Of Tuesday"
by the Hello People (Philips, 1968)
Stephane
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:18:15 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: Chiffons' "Nobody Knows" . . . Who Sang Lead?
Can anybody say definitively who sang lead on "Nobody Knows
What's Goin' On In My Mind?" It is definitely not Judy Craig,
but I'm not sure it's Sylvia Peterson, either.
Stuffed Animal
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:03:26 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Chiffons
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Btw, I dunno who it is singing "Stop, Look And Listen" on
> said Ace CD, but it sure AIN'T the Chiffons. Anyone?
Doug Morris, a co-writer of the song, is also an S'pop member.
Perhaps he may be able to shed some light?
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:12:23 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: The Ronettes In Stereo
As most Spectropoppers know, Phil Spector remixes everything
every time he reissues things. He gets paid extra for studio
time etc., when he does. I used to have on an old reel to reel
tape a copy of the Ronettes album on the original Philles label
in stereo. The mix as I remember it was more bold or loud than
the early 70s reissue on Phil Spector International and the later
Japanese boot CD which used the same early 70s mixes where the
backing tracks were considerably lower in volume (as I recall)
than the originals.
Since Phil is only officially issuing material in mono, could any
Spectropopper fix it for me to hear the old Philles stereo LP? You
can email me privately if you wish. I don't know how many listers
would be interested in discussions of varying mixes.
Paul Urbahns
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