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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Session claims
From: Phil Milstein
2. Battle of the Teenage Stars
From: David Feldman
3. Eddie Rambeau/Chuck Barris
From: Mike Edwards
4. Re: Jonna Gault and Her Symphonopop Scene
From: Martin Roberts
5. Re: The Three Degrees
From: Bob Rashkow
6. Re: Groop Scoop
From: Lindsay Martin
7. "Along Comes Mary" acetate on Ebay
From: Tom Taber
8. Re: The Jam "Somethings Gone" 1972
From: Billy G. Spradlin
9. Re: Mature teenagers
From: Artie Wayne
10. Re: More on The Jam
From: Mark Frumento
11. Andy Kim's Backup
From: John Clemente
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:46:47 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Session claims
Paul Urbahns wrote:
> This is probably because if you do 3 or 4 three hour sessions a
> day for weeks it all becomes a blur. Some of the songs are hits,
> some are not. Some of the titles are changed from the time they
> are recorded, until they are issued.
I'm always surprised when any session musician or singer DOES
remember some of the work they did years ago!
--Phil M.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:14:02 -0400
From: David Feldman
Subject: Battle of the Teenage Stars
Susan wrote:
> Janis Ian with "Society's Child" and all that came after?
I knew someone would bring up Janis Ian! Yes, Janis was younger
than Laura Nyro, but I don't think there's any comparison in the
quality of the music or the sophistication. But then Laura Nyro
is my favorite solo singer-songwriter ever. I can't think of any
other teenager in the "rock era" capable of producing masterpieces
like "Poverty Train" or "The Confession."
If any of you know Laura Nyro only from the hits that were covered
by other artists, I urge you to run out and buy a copy of "Eli &
the 13th Confession." Along with "Pet Sounds" and "What's Going On?"
it's in my album pantheon.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:22:00 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Eddie Rambeau/Chuck Barris
Latest entry in the 'Keepin' the Summer Alive' series is Eddie
Rambeau with "Summertime Guy" from 1962; it's now playing in
musica. On this one, Ed's "a real cold drizzle in January but
he sizzles in the month of July". Perfect!
This title is topical also as it was written by Chuck Barris,
who was the subject of the recent George Clooney flick,
"Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind". Actor Sam Rockwell turns in
a deliciously sleazy performance as Chuck Barris. Chuck also
wrote "Palisades Park", a #3 hit for Freddy Cannon in the summer
of '62. That song is featured twice in the film and actor David
Julian Hirsh portrays an appearance by Freddy Cannon on "American
Bandstand". "Summertime Guy" is also featured but as the theme
for one of Barris' game shows, "The Newly Wed Game". This show
ran for about eight years on daytime TV, hosted by Bob Eubanks.
It wasn't all good news. "Summertime Guy" was pulled from all
radio and TV stations once they learned that Chuck Barris (who
was currently an ABC VP) was the writer. It was considered a
conflict of interest; "Palisades Park" snuck through, however.
Having said this, member Frank Wright produced a regional chart
handed out by Norm's TV and Radio in Easthampton, MA, showing
"Summertime Guy" at #23 for the week of 08/18/62, so somebody
bought it. Enjoy the 45,
Mike
'Keepin' the Summer Alive'- the story so far:
Chubby Checker – Dancin' Party – Parkway – 1962
Connie Francis – We Have Something More (Than A Summer Love)
– MGM – 1964
Chiffons – When Summer's Through – Laurie – 1963
Eddie Rambeau – Summertime Guy – Swan - 1962
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:39:24 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Jonna Gault and Her Symphonopop Scene
Art wrote:
>Anybody on Spectropop ever heard this LP?
After her first(?) 45, Jonna Gault: Sincomperneer, from early
'66 on Reprise, "From My Window", (arr & cond Ernie Freeman),
I must confess to not actively seeking out her later work on
Map and RCA, but I may be persuaded of her virtues. Perhaps
if someone cares to play a later track to musica?
Martin
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:29:58 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: The Three Degrees
Great group. Have never heard their Swan efforts from the mid
60s. Rashkovsky, when were you doing sound for them? I have a
45 of "I Do Take You" (Roulette, 1970) which is a beautiful soul
ballad that left a brief mark on the charts. Whitburn says they
also covered Little Sister's "You're The One" (not as successfully
as Sly's sister's group). How do they sound on Swan - my guess
would be more in keeping with that time, a la the Shangs, Ikettes,
or the Barry-Greenwich contingent?
Bobster
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:51:13 -0000
From: Lindsay Martin
Subject: Re: Groop Scoop
...no connection whatsoever with Australian band The Groop that
had some local hits in the late 60s: "Woman You're Breaking Me",
"Such a Lovely Way".
Come to think of it, it's probably an obvious name for a group:
no doubt there have been other "Groops" elsewhere on the planet.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:26:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: "Along Comes Mary" acetate on Ebay
I am in hopes that a Spectropopper was the lucky
winner of the "Along Comes Mary" acetate that just
sold on Ebay; or somebody knows somebody who can get
it to musica. It said "Curt and Tandyn" and "Along
Comes Mary" on the taped-on label, and is believed to
be the demo given to the group that got them to record
the song. A few other acetates from the same source
contained alternate early takes of other Association
songs.
Tom Taber
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:48:17 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: The Jam "Somethings Gone" 1972
Michel wrote:
> I think that your impression is quite right. In Jerry Osborne's
> book "Rockin' Records", he puts Jam's single on Sire in 1968.
> When I first saw that you had uploaded some music by Jam from
> 1972, I thought this was the same Jam who released "Pigeon" in
> 1971.
Was "Pigeon" also released on Sire Records? I think we have
another confusing instance of 2-3 or more groups with the
same name...
One thing I found interesting is the number of the the record
"Sire 5001". My Mixtures' "Pushbike Song" is SI 350 from 1970-1.
It makes me wonder if this was the Seymour Stein-run Sire records
or a different company from 1968. Until someone comes up with a
copy we will never know. I'd love to find out if there was a
stereo mix made, or an LP.
>From what I dug up Sire Records was established in 1966 and went
through several distributors (Paramount Gulf+Western (I think),
Phonogram, ABC and over 2 decades with Warner Brothers before
switching to Universal in the 90s) so they could have changed
record and matrix numbers many times.
Billy
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Mature teenagers
Dave Feldman:
> Has any teenager ever written and performed at the level
> of "First Songs" and "Eli & the Thirteenth Confession?"
> I can't think of any.
Susan:
> Janis Ian with "Society's Child" and all that came after?
Susan.........How ya' doin'? I'm ashamed of myself, I should
have jumped in and answered Dave's question as quickly as you
did!! My partner Kelli Ross and I represented Janis Ian's
publishing company from her first hit for the next three years.
She was only 14 years old at the time, but I never related to
her as a kid. She turned me on to music and artists I might not
have heard and opened my mind to an emerging generation.
Regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 19:51:54 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: More on The Jam
Michel Gignac wrote:
> I think that your impression is quite right. In Jerry Osborne's
> book "Rockin' Records", he puts Jam's single on Sire in 1968.
I'm pretty sure the record exists and is from 1972. Note the
similarity to "My Girl."
Here's the listing from Fuzz Acid and Flowers:
The Jam
45:
Loving Kind Of Way/Something's Gone (Sire 5001) 1972
This seems to have been a one-off venture produced by Seymour Stein,
who later discovered The Ramones. The flip, a fine example of baroque-
pop with strong vocals, harmonies and some good upfront Hammond
organ, has resurfaced on Pebbles, Vol. 12 (LP).
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:03:15 -0400
From: John Clemente
Subject: Andy Kim's Backup
Hello All,
In answer to Laura Pinto's question about Andy Kim's version
of "Baby I Love You", singer Jean Thomas said that it was she
who backed Andy on that.
Regards,
John Clemente
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