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Volume #0116 July 12, 1998
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joining the legions of fans
Subject: Caravelles
Sent: 07/10/98 5:38 pm
Received: 07/11/98 7:06 pm
From: Keiko Kondo, kondoXXXX@XXXjnet.or.jp
>>I've got The Caravelles "You don't have to be a baby to cry"
>
>How many songs does it have? Is most of the material any good?
>
>Will
Hi Will
The cd has 25 songs including covers of P&P's Tonight You Belong
to Me & Gonna Get Along Without You Now. Also Bacharach & David's
True Love Never Runs Smooth. And I mention before You are Here
(same as Winter's Here - Robin Ward).
To answer about is most of the material any good, in Japan we say
"ten persons ten colors." That meaning everyone has different sense.
So this is from the liner note:
As you listen, we hope you too will enjoy an easy
relaxed mood as the Caravelles glide from song to
song, exhibiting further, some favorite songs sung
in their own captivating style. The versatility of
these two new performers will somewhat astound you
and we're sure after listening to this album you'll
be joining the legions of fans the Caravelles have
already acquired.
In IMHO the music is much better than liner note. If you like
Fleetwoods & P&P, you like The Caravelles.
KK
PS Sorry no oldies radio comment, we don't have oldies radio in
Japan.
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Subject: Those Oldies but Goodies
Sent: 07/10/98 4:09 am
Received: 07/11/98 7:06 pm
From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
I wrote:
>>Ironically, the...dumbing down of Golden era popular music
>>give(s) credibility to our...esoteric interest in same.
Mark Landwehr replied:
>Oh, great. So we can puff our chests out and strut around thinking
>that we know more about this stuff than the average human being...
>Fine, but with all due respect, that still won't change oldies
>radio.
I didn't mean to come off like I wanted to puff chest. Sorry if
that's how it read. I too lament limited playlists and DJs. I was
only thinking out loud that dumb oldies radio is better than none,
and if corporate radio improves numbers with dumb playlists, the
oldies market grows and the collectors market is better served with
releases such as Stax, Spector, Pet Sounds, Who and Motown boxes.
You know, whenever I fly into a major US airport, the first thing
I do after getting the rental car keys is search for the oldies
station. Believe me, if you lived in an area where there was no
oldies radio at all, you'd be ecstatic to land at LAX, tune in to
KRTH, crank the volume, let the top down, loosen your tie and cruise
PCH with Baby Love, Satisfaction and I Get Around. It is one of the
greatest feelings ever, especially when a little Kitty Kat is riding
shotgun.
>If your idea of fun is trying to explain to a "pimple voice" who
>Norma Tanega is, then you might as well talk to a pile of bricks...
Walkin' My Cat Named Dog is a fine record indeed. I am no expert, I
would be delighted to read more here about Norma.
--
le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
RodeoDrive/5030
PS If any Spectropoppers reside in Nashville, please let me
know by private email.
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Subject: Re: Knickerbockers
Sent: 07/10/98 6:16 am
Received: 07/10/98 10:28 am
From: David Feldman, feldXXXX@XXXderables.com
> Does anyone remember Johnny Charles' old East Coast band, the
> Knickerbockers?
>
Who could forget them? As far as I know, they broke up in the late
60's. It's interesting that I forgot the name Johnny Charles. I
always associate them w/Buddy Randell.
Also, although I know they are from New Jersey, I think of them
as a West Coast band. I grew up in L.A. and they were playing
clubs constantly. I know they also were associated with Lloyd
Thaxton, a local (and briefly national) DJ/TV music host, who was
based in L.A. They were a terrific live band.
I don't know the Myddle Class at all, though.
Dave Feldman
CD of the Month: It's a tie!
Belle & Sebastian: "If You're Feeling Sinister"
Billy Bragg & Wilco: "Mermaid Ave."
Word of the Week: "blasphemous"
Lyric of the Week: Woody Guthrie:
"I said little girl, it's plain to see,
there ain't nobody who can sing like me.
She said it's hard for me to see,
how one little boy got so ugly."
Best Time Killer of the 90's: Filling out the UPDATED gender survey at
"http://www.imponderables.com"
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Subject: Can't Forget the Velvelettes
Sent: 07/10/98 10:13 am
Received: 07/10/98 10:28 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, wsXXXX@XXXt.com
>I had totally forgotten how wonderful "Forever" and "When You're
>Young & in Love" (just two examples) were.
The first ever Marvelettes cd set I bought was their great
"Deliver the Singles" retrospect. I was amazed at the quality of
the non-hits. With a couple of exceptions, like "Paper Boy,"
almost every song was a great part of the Motown Sound.
>This set makes a good case for the Marvelettes being Motown's
>best girl group. Martha & the Vandellas are usually the favorites
>of Motown fanatics, but I'd put them well below the Marvelettes
>and Supremes.
We can't forget about the Velvelettes either. I rank the Motown
girl groups that I know of from best to worse as the Marvelettes,
the Velvelettes, Martha and the Vandellas, and then the Supremes.
Not that the Supremes were bad or anything, but if you go track by
track with the 3 big Motown girl groups on any one of their
compilations, the Marvelettes will always come out on tops with
quality, not necessarily commercialism.
>The Marvelettes, with two great lead singers, were the
>most versatile of the three groups, and shined whether singing R&B
>(Please Mr. Postman) or gimmicky pop (I'm a sucker for "My Baby
>Must be a Magician" and "Destination Anywhere"). I don't find
>myself listening to the M&V set 10% as often as the Marvelettes.
As a girl group nut I find myself listening to several groups who
have a long-lasting playability, meaning I can play them more than
a couple of times a week without getting bored. The Marvelettes,
Chiffons, Ronettes, Shangri-las, Sweet Inspirations, and Crystals
are some of the groups with bigger repertoires who I never get
tired of. If all of you out there don't have that Marvelettes'
collections we're talking about, it's a must buy! Listen to songs
like "Danger, Heartbreak Dead Ahead," "As Long As I Know He's Mine,"
"The Hunter Gets Captured By The Game," and "Marionette" and
tell me who the real "Supremes" of Motown were. The Marvelettes
are criminally underrated!
Will
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Subject: the songs of...brian hyland??
Sent: 07/10/98 3:22 am
Received: 07/10/98 4:12 am
From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrXXXX@XXXom
In a message dated 98-07-08 14:15:22 EDT, javed wrote:
>The Canadian content regulations do make for some interesting
>listening. [An] example of this is the song "So Long Marianne" by
>Brian Hyland which I do not believe made the American charts at
>all but it still gets played here because it was written by Leonard
>Cohen.
oh, i have *got* to hear this! is there a comprehensive hyland
collection out there that would have it, in addition to all the
familiar hits?
jeff [who hasn't heard "the joker went wild" on the radio since
the 80's, much to his chagrin]
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Subject: WGRR
Sent: 07/10/98 3:23 am
Received: 07/10/98 4:12 am
From: Paul Urbahns, PaulurbXXXX@XXXom
In a message dated 98-07-08 14:15:22 EDT, you write:
>I have been listening to some of the oldies stations on the net
>and there are still a few independent minded station in major
>markets. Two of the best are WGRR in Cincinnati and WMJI in
>Cleveland. These stations play the usual staples but also throw in
>the odd regional hit and songs that made the lower rungs of the
>national charts. For example, I have heard "Open Up Your Door" by
>Richard & The Young Lions on WGRR. This song only made it to the
>90's on Billboard in 1966. The only problem with this station is
>that their RealAudio netcast is very unreliable.
WGRR definitely does oldies better than most, I used to catch Dusty
Rhodes show on Sunday evening on Real Audio until WGRR discontinued
the live feeds (probably because of the unreliability you mention)
Suggest we all log on and ask them to continue the feeds, the only
way they will invest the money in the Internet is if they see
response. So if you like oldies visit the WGRR site. Dusty Rhodes
used to be on WSAI in the 60's.
Paul Urbahns
paulurbXXXX@XXXom
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