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Volume #0132 August 22, 1998
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LONG PLAYING UNBREAKABLE
Subject: DL+AF= CLASSIC
Sent: 08/21/98 6:36 am
Received: 08/22/98 3:13 am
From: Mark Landwehr, mslXXXX@XXXbs.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
>I think that Darlene / Aretha clip you refer to is when Aretha's
>doing "It's In His Kiss--" a jazzy, up-tempo version. The Blossoms
>are backing her up (Fanita almost falling off her platform AGAIN),
>and darlene is waving her arm at Aretha, laughing, egging her on
>like you say...
>great video!
>
That's the one, Jim!!! Everybody was so much into it in that
video...If you all (no, I'm not from the south, but I lived in
Atlanta 6 years) have never seen it, you're missing a true classic
featuring two of the great female singers of our time together on
one stage, in one camera shot...
Moving ahead a few years, does anyone know where I could find a
copy of "My Guy's Mad At Me" by Tracy Ullman (the old Madness
tune)??? Don't think it was ever issued in the U.S.
Hey, Robert...What's going on in the Spector trial??
Mark
(Philles Phanatic - http://www,toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector/
)
Subject: Fading away
Sent: 08/21/98 7:47 am
Received: 08/22/98 3:13 am
From: Charles G. Hill, cXXXX@XXX.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
>While fades are not necessarily better than cold endings, I do not
>appreciate the widespread opinion that a fade is a cop out when an
>arranger can't think of an ending.
How many really good cold endings are there? "She Loves You",
certainly; "The Cheater", maybe; "Oh, Pretty Woman", if I hadn't
heard it so many times before. You want someone who can't come up
with an ending, don't look for an arranger - look for a comic.
>[T]here's an art to doing a good fade. Spector was a master at it.
>Bob Gaudio knew how potent a good fade could be. Brian too used
>the repeat and fade technique to great effect. Listen to the very
>end of "She Knows Me..." The coke bottle percussion re-enters at
>the very, very end. Cool! Motown, Stax... thank rock and roll for
>all those great fades. And if you want the best evidence to
>support the virtue of the fade, Exhibit A - Hal Blaine drum fills!
Yea, verily, and with material as dissimilarly-arranged as "Be My
Baby" and "Poor Side of Town".
Besides, a properly-done fade got you out of the half-hour and all
perked up for Action Central News, not an inconsiderable virtue in
itself, if you ask me....cgh
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"Now is the Windows of our discontent." - Richard 3.0
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0131
Sent: 08/21/98 4:02 am
Received: 08/22/98 3:12 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXXX@XXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
>I tend to believe that the fade is an art form which came from the
>rise of the 45 rpm record, and, regrettably, it seems to have lost
>its popularity in direct relation to the demise of the 45.
>
While I can't think of any titles right now, I often listen to 30s-
'40s Big Band music, and fade outs on those 78s were not unheard
of.
Most early rock and roll was, I tend to think, originally done
live, then put on a record. So early rock and roll tended to have
hard endings on records, like the live performance did.
Later, when rock and roll songs were written for recording
sessions and not done live prior to the session, I feel fade outs
developed. Just a theory. Any thoughts?
Finally, I have often tried to determine the FIRST rock and roll
record that faded, especially the first big hit/trend setter. Any
nominees?
Doc
Subject: Spector's Ike and Tina sides
Sent: 08/22/98 2:53 am
Received: 08/22/98 3:13 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, wsXXXX@XXXt.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
I've had the Spector Back To Mono Box set for a few years already,
but I hadn't taken a good listen to the songs Phil produced as
credited to Ike and Tina, although really just Tina is present, in
a while. I've never been a big fan of "River Deep Mountain High,"
like other people in this group, so I thought the other songs by
Tina would be more of the same, but I was pleasently surprised.
"I'll never Need More Than This," "A Love Like Yours," and "Save
The Last Dance For Me," are superb Spector productions. Does
anyone know what other later Spector productions are out there?
Not the A&M or Apple stuff, but from his own label or other during
the mid-sixties.
Will
Subject: Darlene Love in WSJ
Sent: 08/21/98 11:59 pm
Received: 08/22/98 9:58 am
From: David Marsteller, davebXXXX@XXXflin.org
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
Hi all!
Just wanted to spread the word that there is an article/interview
with Darlene Love in today's (8/21/98) Wall Street Journal. It is
on the front page of the Weekend Journal Section and is called
"She's A Rebel, but She Still Isn't a Big Star: Darlene Love's
Quest".
Dave
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Subject: Re: BOUNCE spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
Sent: 08/22/98 1:09 am
Received: 08/22/98 3:16 am
From: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
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Subject: Article on Darlene Love
The Wall Street Journal (US edition), Aug 21, '98 in the Weekend
Journal section (page 1) has an excellent article on Darlene Love.
It's not so complimentary of Phil, but it does end on a positive
note...Darlene is once again playing Danny Glover's wife in Leathal
Weapon IV.
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