____________________________________________________________ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ S P E C T R O P O P _______ _______ _______ ____________________________________________________________ Volume #0153 September 25, 1998 ____________________________________________________________ Perfectly safe for playing normal 45 rpm microgroove recordsSubject: Chico & RDMH Sent: 09/24/98 2:52 am Received: 09/24/98 9:14 am From: Mark Landwehr, mslXXXX@XXXbs.com To: Spectropop List, SpectroXXXX@XXXties.com > So is Chico's Girl going to show up on any compilation soon? Chico's Girl is on a 1985 compilation called "Dream Babies" on EMI-America. This great LP includes Merry Clayton ("Usher Boy"), Alder Ray (a re-mix of "Cause I Love Him"), the unreleased "All Grown Up" version by the Exciters, the Honeys, 02 unreleased Crystals songs (post-Phil), and other juicy tunes. Haven't seen this LP on CD...The Chico's Girl single is on Capitol 5675. > Finally, other RDMH versions that immediately come to mind: > Nilsson (good), Easybeats (decent), Eric Burdon and the Animals > (obnoxious), Celine Dion (pathetic). Any others? Marc? Supremes & Four Tops (pretty good), Deep Purple (fairly good), and a VERY strange version recorded in 1971 by Ike Turner on UA 50865... He never once sings a single WORD of the song - Merely says "Nah, nah, na-na, nahhh, na-na..." etc., throughout the whole song!!!! What a hoot!! Celine doing RDMH??? What's next, Barbara Streisand doing "Then He Kissed Me"? It's obvious that much of Spector's income over the years has been provided from his writing credits...For example, just think of the number of artists who have recorded "To Know Him Is To Love Him", not to mention the mob that's done "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin" ...That song HAS to be 2nd only to "Yesterday" as the most-recorded song in history!! Phil's in his mansion right now saying "cha- ching!!". Mark Landwehr (Philles Phanatic) http://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: I can mash potato/I can do the twist Sent: 09/24/98 2:26 am Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: Alan Warner, wizXXXX@XXXtcom.com To: Spectropop List, SpectroXXXX@XXXties.com Hello Jack Madani: I used CHICO'S GIRL by The Girls on an EMI-Capitol compilation called "Dream Babies" back in '85... in fact, it was so long ago that it only came out on vinyl! And yes, Bernadette Peters DID cover that song. And here's one from my "hey, we all make mistakes, but why do folks researching books do such poor research?" file...There's a recently-published tome called "Music Hound Lounge: The Essential Album Guide To Martini Music & Easy Listening". In its section on Ms. Peters, contributor Ken Burke states: "As a solo recording artist, Peters belatedly made her debut in 1980." Not so, for 18 years-old Bernadette cut a single for United Artists in 1962: the songs were ACADEMY AWARD c/w CHARM BRACELET! And finally for Jamie: Others who released versions of RIVER DEEP MOUNTAIN HIGH include Deep Purple, Neil Diamond, Annie Lennox, Eric Burdon & The Animals, The Flamin' Groovies plus the combination of The Supremes & The Four Tops. AW --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Do I love you, my oh my... Sent: 09/24/98 6:51 am Received: 09/24/98 9:14 am From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrXXXX@XXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com In a message dated 9/23/98 11:11:49 AM Central Daylight Time, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com writes: >other RDMH versions that immediately come to mind: >Nilsson (good), Easybeats (decent), Eric Burdon and the Animals >(obnoxious), Celine Dion (pathetic). Any others? The British synth-pop duo Erasure cut a version as a cassette/CD bonus track for their 1988 album, *The Innocents*. I think it also might have been a B- side; I know for certain it got plenty of top 40/club play at the time. I'm not a big fan of Erasure apart from their first few singles, so I wasn't really impressed. Then again... ...{gulp}... ...I never was too big on the song to begin with. I read an overview of Phil's work several years ago (can't remember the source or the author), and "RDMH" was referred to as "the most overrated 45 RPM record ever made". I sez to myself, "Wow! It isn't just me, then." I'm not saying its awful (Tina's performance its definitely its best attribute), but it's not one of my most favorite Spector cuts. Fair enough? Cheers, Jeff NP: Robert Wyatt, *Rock Bottom* --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: River Deep, Mountain High Sent: 09/25/98 12:44 am Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: Kieron Tyler, kierXXXX@XXX.org.uk To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Another cover of RDMH=Flamin' Groovies, recorded at Gold Star. It's ok, too much echo on it to submerge the sound of the band. It's from sessions they did (1979/80 I think) with Mr Phil that weren't released at the time. Their 1978 'Now' LP produced by Dave Edmunds has a much better wall of sound type feel.... All the best, Kieron Tyler --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re Ike & Tina's R&B hits as Philles B sides Sent: 09/24/98 11:43 am Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: R Teyes, RTeXXXX@XXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Remarkably, I&T earlier sides were hits in their own right: A Fool In Love, It's Gonna Work Out Fine, I Idolize You, etc. NOT Philles productions, of course, but nicely produced R&B songs. I liked I&T even before Phil signed them (her)...You need to listen to their Sue label songs to appreciate Tina's voice and Ike's guitar playing...he was indeed excellent despite what happened in his private life. It bothers me that fans immediately hate Ike because of Tina's story. Whether true or not, the man is talented... Robert the Ronette Hound --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: River Deep Sent: 09/24/98 10:14 am Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXX@XXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com <<So was River Deep Mountain High any sort of hit for Mlle. Dion? And is there any connection between her recording it and those aborted Spector sessions?>> Celine Dion sang the Spector classic on the David Letterman show, possibly on the suggestion of Dave's bandleader, Paul Shaffer. Phil either caught this or caught wind of this, took it is a compliment, and proceeded to offer to produce her. I recall reading (in Mojo?) that when an interviewer asked Phil about none of his tracks appearing on Dion's new album, he spat out some rude comments about the producers who did make the final cut. One of these was Jim Steinman, who said (probably sincerely) it was an honor to be insulted by Phil Spector. Aside: about 6 years ago, the record store I worked at was celebrating its 60th anniversary at the Park West in Chicago. Sony's label-donated talent was Celine Dion. Nobody at the party seemed to be paying any attention to her performance. I was mostly curious whether or not she was lip-synching. After I determined that indeed she was, I stopped paying attention too. Frank Youngwerth --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: River Deep Montain High Pt.2 Sent: 09/24/98 11:47 am Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: Alicia Martuge, ZablXXXX@XXX.net To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Thank you for your comments whoever you are! Delighted to be in such enlighted company. Actually when it was released as a single in 1985 from the Broadway show "Leader Of The Pack," I believe Darlene Love sang on it before she made all those "Lethal Weapon" flicks. My brother made the supreme sacrifice by plucking it from his collection to give it to me for my birthday. Have not played that version or Tina's too often. I'm just too enamored with the Supremes/Four Tops version, although I hate Jean Terrell and I LOVE Levi Stubbs. Alicia four tops girl --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: River Deep Purple Sent: 09/24/98 8:50 pm Received: 09/25/98 12:23 am From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com > Finally, other RDMH versions that immediately come to mind: > Nilsson (good), Easybeats (decent), Eric Burdon and the Animals > (obnoxious), Celine Dion (pathetic). Any others? Deep Purple followed up their cover versions of "Hush" and " Kentucky Woman" with a version of RDMH which made the charts in early 1969. I Have not heard that version in years but from what I recall their arrangement followed the formula of the two earlier covers. Pop songs given the proto-metal treatment. I think the Deep Purple covers were more fun to listen to ( and less bombastic ) than the Vanilla Fudge remake of "You Keep Me Hanging On". As mentioned in a recent digest The Supremes & Four Tops also released a version of RDMH in 1970. Javed --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ferry/ Venus Sent: 09/24/98 2:41 am Received: 09/24/98 9:14 am From: james fisher, JHFAXXXX@XXX.net To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com Amazing, Jack! I've never thought of it but now that you point it out.....I hope your discovery doesn't lead Gerry down the path of his old pal George Harrison and that "My Sweet Lord/ He's So Fine" debacle! On a Beatles related thing...for everyone who remembers their Eng.Lit 101...most of the words from Abbey Road's "Golden Slumbers" are lifted out of Thomas Dekker's poem of the same name but since Thomas died in the early 1600's he is probably not going to file suit. Is it a common practice/courtesy or a legal requirement to put "Trad. Arr" or similar next to public domain works when you clip freely from them then copyright the results for yourself? I'm sure it goes on all the time (with good results) so please don't read this as an attack on the Beatles--it's not. (I only wish they would have swiped some of my high school doggerel...) Unrelated.....any opinions on favorite version of "Walk away Renee" --Four Tops vs. Left Banke. Great song. One more thing...I caught the end of the movie "Quiz Show" recently and over the credits was Bobby Darin doing a way slow ballad take of "Mack the Knife", I thought it was a knockout--is it on any of his CDs? I know I could buy the soundtrack but I'd rather get an all Bobby album if possible. Regards to all, Jim. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: like clockwork Sent: 09/23/98 6:44 pm Received: 09/24/98 12:20 am From: Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXXX@XXX12.nj.us To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com There's nothing profound about this post, but I wanted to mention a type of song that absolutely rivets me. These records are so perfectly arranged and played, there's not a stray note or lick that's out of place. To my ears, they're like JS Bach pocket concertos for the kiddies, and they always get my shoulders to shuckin'. I'm talking about records like: Sweet Talkin' Guy (Chiffons) Livin' Right Next Door To An Angel (Neil Sedaka) It's In His Kiss/The Shoop Shoop Song (Betty Everett) Navy Blue (Diane Renay) It Hurts To Be In Love (Gene Pitney) The counterpoints that arise from the arrangements of these records just raise the short hairs on the back of my neck. Like I said, nothing profound about this post. By the way, with four Diane Renay songs on the "Growin' Up Too Fast" anthology, is it still worth it to acquire Renay's album? jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road, Princeton, NJ 08540 Jack_MadXXXX@XXX12.nj.us "It is when the gods hate a man with uncommon abhorrence that they drive him into the profession of a schoolmaster." --Seneca, 64 A.D. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Bacharach Rhino Box Sent: 09/24/98 3:34 am Received: 09/24/98 9:14 am From: Matthew Kaplan, TweeXXXX@XXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com On the topic of the Bacharach Rhino Box, does anybody know how different this will be from the four CD set that Bacharach Songs/ Windswept Pacific put out a few years back? Matthew T. 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