__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0171 October 22, 1998 __________________________________________________________ Incomparable stars of stage, screen, radio and recordsSubject: Danny Hutton Sent: 10/20/98 2:49 am Received: 10/20/98 3:10 am From: Marty Rudnick, mrudXXXXXXXXuro.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com > M. LePage said: > >> Three Dog Night...The first I knew of any of these guys was the >> Danny Hutton 45 Roses and Rainbows; a fairly large hit in the Los >> Angeles area. David Feldman said: > As a native Angeleno, "Roses and Rainbows" and "Funny How Love Can > Be" were big deals to me, and I bought both singles quickly. The > two songs could hardly be more different. Marty sez I think "Roses And Rainbows" was one of the greatest obscure songs of all time. His music was eventually budget reissued by MGM as "Pre Dog Night". /Marty --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: echo Sent: 10/20/98 2:45 am Received: 10/20/98 3:10 am From: dave prokopy, proXXXXXXXXst.net To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Jack Madani, Jack_MaXXXXXXXXk12.nj.us writes: > And is it true that Simon & Garfunkel used an elevator shaft as an > echo chamber for Bridge Over Troubled Water? the story i'd read (as related by hal blaine) was that they recorded the snare for "the boxer" in the rather echo-y hallway. perhaps this is what you're thinking of? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Three Dog Night and Simon & Garfunkel Sent: 10/20/98 9:05 am Received: 10/21/98 1:02 am From: David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com << From: Jack Madani, Jack_MaXXXXXXXXk12.nj.us Is it true that 3 Dog Night recorded the vocals for Liar in a bathroom? And is it true that Simon & Garfunkel used an elevator shaft as an echo chamber for Bridge Over Troubled Water? >> Hi Jack, I've heard both of these things, in the 70s on American Top 40 when Casey Kasem was host. Apparantly, S&G banged a chair against the elevator opening to get that thunderous sound on "The Boxer". -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The record that none of us liked Sent: 10/20/98 10:36 am Received: 10/21/98 1:02 am From: Barbara Alston, BARBXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi Robert, Would love to know how the case with Phil and the Ronettes is going. I am eager to know because I would like my time in court also :-) Please advise. Thank you. Hi Jamie, You are eerily correct, "He Hit Me" is absolutely, positively the record that none of us liked. We knew in our hearts that it was going to be a controversial piece and argued on several occasions with Phil about releasing it. All I really wanted to know was "why"? Why would five (possibly four at the time) young girls sing something extraordinary like "he hit me and it felt like a kiss" -- yuk, was what I truly felt. Yes, the song was recorded in New York, in whatever studio Phil was using during that time. Dee Dee would surely remember. Things like that don't seem to ring a bell with me at present. Phil was a master at getting you in the mood for whatever song(s) he was attempting at the time. Since I never wanted to sing lead in the first place, he really had to do a job on me for that one. He would get everyone out of the control room, clear the studio and have no one but he and the group there. He would cut out the lights in the studio making it cozy and subdued. He always kept the light on in the control room, though, and you would see him sitting up there doing the whole routine by himself. He was quite an intelligent musician. I remember on Uptown, Phil must have played every string instrument there was, the piano, and I believe the drums. He overdubbed everything and anything! He was a one-man band. Now, I liked "No One Ever Tells You," but I still didn't want to sing it. I always gave Phil such a hard time because I never came into the group wanting to sing lead. When my uncle asked me to join the group, he said he needed background singers. That's why I agreed. I could do harmony by ear and always loved making up dance routines. That was my forte. However, everyone else at the time was too shy to even give the lead a shot. Dee Dee was the only one with enough nerve to do anything, but her voice was too high and soft. She was a perfect 1st tenor. Patsy couldn't hold a note long enough to say "sing" -- that's why Phil put her on the flip side of "There's No Other." He got tired of going into several different keys in one shot! Mary absolutely didn't want to sing a thing. Myrna wasn't even a working member of the group -- she left before we did our first show. So, when we got La La, we got what we wanted -- a lead singer. I was ecstatic to say the least. But, again, Phil was not pleased. He didn't like her voice for some reason and he kept coming back to me. I refused and indicated that La La is our lead and should do the songs. Phil left New York during that time and in California, he used whoever he wanted to sing whatever he wanted. That's how Darlene Love got involved. There's plenty more to this story, but I guess you have an overall sense of how I felt about singing any of those songs. Finally, we found out years later that Phil made us do "He Hit Me" to make a flop record. He wanted to get rid of his partner (Lester Sill) and if we had a flop, he would be in a better position to buy Lester's share out. Isn't that amazing? He actually used us for his personal gain in more ways than one. Hope this information gives you an idea of what was going on at that time. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. Love, Babs --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Help me Baldy Sent: 10/20/98 2:35 pm Received: 10/21/98 1:02 am From: Ron Bierma, ELROXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com In a message dated 10/16/98 2:41:29 PM, you wrote: << some kind of analogue harmoniser designed in the 60s (which is effectively what the system you describe is; a piece of equipment which changes the pitch of music, but not its duration - or vice versa).>> was this the trick(?) used in the Beach Boys "She's Going Bald" in the Sha-na na na part where the voices get higher, but the beat stays the same? I always assumed the boys timed it in such a way to speed up the tape, but slow down their tempo as they sang. anyone know? RB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Touch The Wall Of Sound Sent: 10/21/98 8:32 am Received: 10/22/98 12:30 am From: David Marsteller, daveXXXXXXXXeflin.org To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi All! In case anyone is interested (I was!), the new issue of Discoveries has an ad from DisCollector, with the Touch Te Wall Of Sound album as one of the clearance items for $24.99. This morning they had a number of copies. Sounds like a good deal to me. Below is the contact info. Dave Phone: (303) 841-3000 or (303)841-1118 Fax: (303)840-9373 e-maiXXXXXXXXol.com http://www.discol.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Early Crystals Sent: 10/21/98 9:04 am Received: 10/22/98 12:30 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Bravo Jamie! I too love those smoky-Barbara-voiced early Crystals numbers, a welcome contrast to the often too-heavy "wall of sound" post-Philles 118... I've always loved "No One Ever Tells You" too, with that heartbeat fadeout... and Barbara's voice is superb, very emotional and real. You go, Ms. Alston! Glad to have you aboard! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Pixies3/Babs Alston Sent: 10/21/98 10:27 am Received: 10/22/98 12:30 am From: wXXXXXXXX.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi babs! I'm glad you found you're way to the list. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to write you back with info on how to get here, but it looks like you found your own way pretty well. Speaking of the Pixies 3, Doc Rock is great friends with all of them, and maybe we can rally him to ask if they'd like to join the list. I've talked with Debbie and Kay (both extremely nice ladies. They still tour, they have their own fan club including newsletter, and they released an album of old and new songs a few years back. It's called Then and Now, and you can order it through their web page. Very good singing. On their "Be My Baby" cut Debbie sounds so much like Ronnie its uncanny! That deep vibrato. The high pitched girls you remember from the sixties can still make it up that high if they try, but they sound great in lower octaves too. So now that we have Babs on the list, let's get some of our other contacts aboard. Doc might be able to get the Pixies 3, I'll talk to Katherine Anderson-Schaffner of the Marvelettes, and one of the Ad-libs who I know. Who else has contacts around. I think these stars would really love to hear what we have to say about their music. BTW, favourite Crystals song? Early Spector - "No One Ever Tells You." Late Spector - "Girls Can Tell." Post Spector - "I Got A Man." Babs you rock! Everybody you travel over to her web site and help the Crystals in their attempt at a nomination for the oldies hall of fame. They really deserve it! >The URL for Barbara Alston's website is: The Buyer's Club ><http://www.popenterprises.com/"> >Go to the MUSIC link... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Crystals Artwork Sent: 10/22/98 1:55 am Received: 10/22/98 1:58 am From: Jamie LePage, le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Listening to Crystals a lot recently [wonder why;-)] and I was thinking: How about that pink ABKCO sleeve design there? What's THAT about?!? ...and to think, they could have used the photo from the Twist Uptown LP. Now that really would have been cool. It's probably the greatest GG album jacket ever. What a waste. Phil Spector and the Rolling Stones. AARGH! "Dear Mr. Klein:..." -- le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com RodeoDrive/5030 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: April Young Sent: 10/21/98 9:07 am Received: 10/22/98 12:30 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXITIES.COM For all you newbies: for a great taste of the Girl-Group genre, have a listen to April Young's "To Be Loved By You." It will make you SMILE, especially when she growls "I'm a lucky girl" and squeals "ooooooh" just before a refrain... ooo-wee indeed! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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