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Volume #0179 November 6, 1998
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KFWB - Color radio - Channel 98
Subject: Black women don't call their men "Rebels"
Sent: 11/05/98 2:47 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: Barbara Alston, BARBXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Hi Doc Rock,
Frankly, Doc, I don't think you would want to hear the comments I
had about that record at the time of it's release, so I'll just
tell you how I feel about it today -- THE SAME! :-)
I never liked the record, never thought it was our style, thought
Darlene did a wonderful job on it, however, but it was not a
Crystal record per se (I felt). But, since it was pushed on us and
we had to do it, we developed a taste for it like you develop a
taste for beer. It don't taste good, but you can drink it when
it's ice cold.
To be quite honest with you, in those days, being a rebel was kind
of upsetting to most Black people. It brought memories of discord
from southern rebel Whites. Now, can you imagine being Black in
the 60's singing about being a "Rebel?" I don't think so! Black
women certainly don't call their men "Rebels." God only knows what
we might really call them, but Rebel surely ain't one of 'em. Know
what I mean? :-)
So, the song never really touched us and was never really a part
of our psyche. Hope this answers your question. It's the absolute
truth that's for sure!
Babs
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Subject: Ho Ho Ho!
Sent: 11/05/98 12:43 pm
Received: 11/06/98 1:25 am
From: Alan Warner, wiXXXXXXXXetcom.com
To: Spectropop List, SpectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Some random thoughts and comments...
First of all, Westside Records in London have just
released a fascinating yuletide compilation titled
"Christmas Past" with various artists drawn from
the various labels which EMI in Europe and Rhino
here in the US purchased from Morris Levy. So
there are tracks from Roulette, End, Rama, Gee,
Gone, Jubilee, Colpix, etc. and the artists range
from legendary R&B vocal groups (The Orioles,
The Cadillacs, The Marcels & The Heartbeats) to
a wide range of solo artists including Jim Backus
(one of three 45's he had on Jubilee in '58/'59),
Pearl Bailey (from her Roulette days), Frankie
Lymon and Jimmie Rodgers. Jo Ann Campbell
is there with Neil Sedaka & Howard Greenfield's
HAPPY NEW YEAR BABY and Toni Wine sings
her own composition: MY BOYFRIEND'S COMING
HOME FOR CHRISTMAS! Oh yeah and there's
also Gerry Goffin & Carole King's arrangement of
I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS as duetted
by Little Eva and Big Dee Irwin. Whatta party!
Flashback to a few weeks ago when somebody asked
if CHICO'S GIRL (Mann/Weil) by The Girls was on any
current collection, it was on K-Tel's 4-CD box set
called "The Brill Building Sound" (Era 5025-2).
AW
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Subject: bad stereo mixes
Sent: 11/05/98 6:16 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: Big L, bXXXXXXXXetmail.com
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Just heard for the first time, the stereo mix (remix) of
Lesley Gore's "California Nights." Ugggghh! Turns out that
gorgeous falsetto hook I always loved is someone screeching
"eee-yoooo-eee-yooooom." And Leslie really doesn't sing this song
well at all. You didn't notice that on the 45.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: songs that were mixed
to be on a 45 RPM single rarely benefit from being mixed or
remixed in stereo. And sometimes youy hear things that weren't
meant to be heard, things that were mixed down in the track to add
depth and body.
A classic example is "Satisfaction." On the stereo mix, the vibes
dominate the left channel. Vibes? On Satisfaction? They were never
ment to be heard, and hearing them ruins forever the concept I had
of this song as a power chord rock anthem.
I'll never be able to listen to either song again, and enjoy them
the way I once did.
==
Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
bXXXXXXXXetmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816
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Subject: Re: Harpers Bizarre
Sent: 11/05/98 5:20 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
In a message dated 11/4/98 9:05:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
spectrXXXXXXXXities.com writes:
<< Since I haven't found any HP websites, could you (or someone)
perhaps write down a quick discography? Atleast the names of their
four reissued LPs....and does any recordstores on the Net sell them
all? I can only find the Feeling Groovy comp and Secret Life.
And are they all as good as the first one? I think Secret Life has
a bunch of great tracks but many of the songs certainly doesn't
stand up to the quality of Happy Land or Pocketful Of Miracles....
too many standard late sixties acoustic guitar rawk songs.....and
not enough of those amazing depression-era sounding songs!
Tobias>>
Hi Tobias,
I can't write a full discography, but Harpers Bizarre's 4 albums
are, in order of release:
Feelin' Groovy
Anything Goes
The Secret Life Of Harpers Bizarre
4
My favorite of the albums is "4", but there doesn't seem to be a
general consensus. I think they're all very good, but "4" departs
a bit from the old standards and offers something a little more up
to the times.
All four of the albums were released on CD on Warners Japan are
are, to my knowledge, still in print. I'm sure Jamie could shed
better light on this.
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Bazaar Times
Sent: 11/05/98 7:10 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TXXXXXXXXv.net
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
In speaking about HARPERS BIZARRE, the falsetto Santa Cruz
group of the late 60's, I have a record in my collection that I
bought when first released which was the follow up to the "59th
Street Bridge Song" (a/k/a "Feelin' Groovy"). It is a send-up of
the old standard, "Chatanooga Choo Choo". A delight for the ears!
It's hard to sit still when you listen to it...an up-tempo,
happy-go-lucky rendition. Highly recommended - if you can find it.
And, for Ms. Alston: Just who was Bob B. Soxx and the Bluejeans?
Do I detect Darlene Love on lead vocals? Claudia
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Subject: Dee Dee Sharp 45
Sent: 11/05/98 12:16 pm
Received: 11/06/98 1:25 am
From: james fisher, JHFXXXXXXXXv.net
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Someone recently gave me a Dee Dee Sharp 45--"He's no ordinary
guy"/"never pick a pretty boy", it's on Cameo C329 A (&B) and is
still in the original picture slip cover--it's got Dee Dee
striking a demure pose and looking way cute in a white lace
outfit. I'm not sure if this one is rare or not but if's there's
any Dee Dee fanatics on spectropop then get in touch and I'll swap
this for something of equal value (no money involved) The record
itself looks to be in pretty good shape though I don't have a
working T/T to play it and check. If anyone needs this to help
their collection then give me a holler.
BTW..The L.A. Times had a nice piece on Darlene Love this week---
think it was Monday in their "Life" section. You can get it on
their web site but if not then let me know and I'll fax you a copy.
Jim
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Subject: Kieron and Lesley and Francoise
Sent: 11/05/98 3:59 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Hi! Hmmm... didn't think anyone had ever heard of Sheila besides
me and a friend in New York. Good to know! But yeah, I've heard
her described as "the French Lesley Gore," though, like you, I
don't totally agree. There's a great number she does called
"Impossible N'est Pas Francais" [sp?] that's really good, and a few
others. Her later releases were more mature, and not so girly. Re
Francoise Hardy: I read that she used to basically stand on stage
and play her guitar, wearing a black raincoat, and not smiling.
Interesting!
Thanks,
Jimmy
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Subject: Re: Oh Why - Teddy Bears
Sent: 11/05/98 2:27 am
Received: 11/05/98 7:52 am
From: R Teyes, RTXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Hi Mark,
You are probably absolutely correct!
Since I am as crazy as you Spectorwise, I took the 45 to a buddy
of mine who engineers at the old Hit Factory studio in Manhattan..
he listened to it, recorded it again in superfast (30ips) and we
both listened to it..points he (Jerry) made me aware of:
-song recorded with minmal hiss but too much "saturation of echo"
in other words, too much of echo in some parts..
-complete drum set not used in this recording; snare used,
brushing of crash audible-high hat overused..bass drum not heard
-bass sounds too elementary..played with minimal imagination and
as if reading from a score..
-guitar and piano are heard clearly and sound excellent
-Jerry also let me hear Phil out of tune in some sections (this
was CLEAR)
-female voice too close to microphone thereby creating
distortion at times
-Finally, Jerry says drum is not tuned..at end
of song, after the ritardado, the downbeat clearly shows that..
all in all, we must not forget phil was starting to produce...it
really takes another professional to pick these points out..I love
that because I am a musician myself and learn something new every
day..
Thanks, Mark, nonetheless..let's evaluate more songs!!!
Robert the Ronette Hound
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Subject: Michael Brown & Left Banke
Sent: 11/6/98 12:31 pm
Received: 11/6/98 12:38 am
From: Jamie LePage, le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com
Scott Bauman, ScottBaXXXXXXXXl.msn.com wrote:
>Well, before PolyGram disappears off the face of the earth, I'm
>trying to figure out what to buy with my PolyGram employee
>discount.
I hardly think it is worth mentioning because you undoubtedly
already have this CD in your collection, but just in case you (or
anyone on this list) doesn't have this absolutely essential
release, by all means get There's Gonna Be A Storm by the Left
Banke. Besides containing both Left Banke albums, the CD has
virtually every recording the band made for Smash. Remastering
by Bill Inglot, and the liner notes by Andrew Sandoval are concise
and informative. An absolute must-have. Mercury 848 095-2
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le_pageXXXXXXXXities.com
RodeoDrive/5030
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