__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0184 November 13, 1998 __________________________________________________________ Enjoy the complete musical definition of instrumentsSubject: too many channels? Sent: 11/12/98 9:37 am Received: 11/13/98 2:38 am From: Michael Carpenter, StagefrXXXXXXXXcom.au To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi folks.. MFW wrote.. >When listeners have access to stereo recordings, or multi-channel >recordings (like Dolby Surround or DTS), you invariably run into >situations where the listener might wind up hearing a very >different mix, with radically different balances. With luck, it >might sound close to what the engineers and producer(s) intended >for you to hear, but there's much less of a risk of problems with >mono. This is part of a very serious on going debate among the music industry types right now. With Surround sound, 05 .1 mixes etc... people are very concerned about how to make sure that people are going to be hearing mixes correctly. The more variables the consumer has, the more chance that the 'artists vision', whether it be the producer, mixing engineer, or film guy, will be diluted or mis-represented. Definitely in record making, the more ' channels' you give the consumer, the more chance there is of them missing something. I heard a song i produced on a friends radio the other day, and the guitars were not like i planned. I went and looked at his stereo and realised his balance was all the way to the left. His comment was that he must have knocked it when he moved, because he never fiddles with the knobs. He moved about 8 months ago.. so for all that time he's been hearing half a mix of his radio and CDs. Maybe Brian and Phil and George Martin and 60s engineers were onto something. Catch A Wave MC --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Little Eva Sent: 11/12/98 9:22 pm Received: 11/13/98 2:38 am From: Tyler Kieron, kieXXXXXXXXs.org.uk To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com There has been some talk of Little Eva recently. I'm off to see her play on Sunday night - have Sp'popers seen her recently, and if so how was she? She's part of something called 'The Solid Gold Rock'n' Roll Show' at the Palladium theatre in London, and is on with folks like Brian Hyland, Bobby Vee, Chris Montez and Johnny Preston! All the best, Kieron --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Little Eva's Magilla Sent: 11/12/98 8:59 am Received: 11/13/98 2:38 am From: wXXXXXXXX.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com >Will mentioned Little Eva's complete Dimension anthology, which features "Makin' [It] With The Magilla". I gotta know: is this the same song (or the same recording, for that matter) used in the Magilla Gorilla cartoon of the same name? I remember taping that song from the TV when I was a kid (using my old hand-held...this was a little before the age of the VCR) and listening to it for weeks afterwards. And to think it was actually released! So is this a new comp, and if not, is it still readily available Hey Jeff! According to the liner notes the song was recorded as a novelty spin-off of the show. It was written by Goffin/King and her last ever release on Dimension written by those two. I'm not sure if it was ever played on the show. Too young to know! But is is availbale on the comp by Westside Records in London. Cat number 512. 29 tracks in all! A fantastic set any way you look at it. Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Makin With The Magilla Sent: 11/12/98 9:51 am Received: 11/13/98 2:38 am From: David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com << Will mentioned Little Eva's complete Dimension anthology, which features "Makin' [It] With The Magilla". I gotta know: is this the same song (or the same recording, for that matter) used in the Magilla Gorilla cartoon of the same name? I remember taping that song from the TV when I was a kid (using my old hand-held...this was a little before the age of the VCR) and listening to it for weeks afterwards. And to think it was actually released! So is this a new comp, and if not, is it still readily available? Thanx! Jeff >> Hi Jeff, It is definitely the same song as that which was featured on the Magilla Gorilla cartoon, and if memory serves it's the same recording as well. I believe The Cartoon Network has actually made a video of the cartoon segment in which the kids are doing the dance. It's really cool, but they don't show it much anymore. I really loved the song when I heard it on the cartoon as a kid, and I'd always wanted to know who did it but of course had no way of knowing. I have a funny story as to how I found out: back in 1983 my friend Bruce was making tapes of songs that had hit the charts in 1964, and he pulled out the record "Opportunity" by The Jewels. He hadn't heard the song, and wanted to sample it for inclusion on the tapes. Well, I was there when he played it and it turned out to be a mis-labeled copy-the song that was actually on the side was "Makin With The Magilla"! I about freaked out, and after I did a little digging in Osborne's price guide I found out that the song was indeed by Little Eva. Thanks to Dimension Records for mis-labeling that one; otherwise it would have been years before I'd known. -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The Crystals, Brooklyn, and Da Doo Ron Ron... Sent: 11/12/98 1:30 pm Received: 11/13/98 2:39 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmXXXXXXXXcom To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi Barbara, Thanks for your kind comments re my Rebels notes! I tell you, it's a great pleasure to hear the perspectives of an actual girl-group member-- I hope all the Spectropoppers appreciate your presence! Correction though-- I'm not so young! I mean, I mentioned that I was 14 in 1970 when I first became conscious of the girl-group songs... so that means I was 7 in 1963... and that means I'll be 43 this December 1st! : ) Did I ever mention to you that I saw the Crystals at a Ralph Nader oldies show back in New York in 1972? I was so thrilled... it was you, Mary, La La, and Dee Dee. I've got pictures I found in a magazine of you all standing together, with a telephone on the wall next to your head. Anyway, I was still a confused collector in those days-- I thought Dee Dee was Darlene Love! You sang There's No Other, Uptown, He's A Rebel, Da Doo Ron Ron, and Then He Kissed Me, and you four wore long dresses with Empire waists. Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry were on the same bill, but I didn't care! I just wanted to see the Crystals! I was living in Brooklyn at that time-- Bay Ridge, right on the border of Bensonhurst! It's true what you said about Bensonhurst... even just a few years ago, in the 80s, a young black man was assaulted for being in that neighborhood, simply because he was there to see about buying a used car. Girl-group pop isn't just about flip hairdos and angelsongs and Shindig; it's also about identity and struggle and finding a "voice" and a way to communicate, whether one is a group member or a fan. It's like what they say about "da doo ron ron..." it means whatever you need to say at the time! Thanks again, Barbara, for your contributions. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Black White Relations Sent: 11/12/98 9:04 am Received: 11/13/98 2:39 am From: wXXXXXXXX.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com It's funny Babs mentioned how well black and white performers got along with each other. Come to think of it, I've never read an auto-bio by a singer in those days who found it to be a problem. At lot of them, Mary Wilson, Marha Reeves, commented on how the audience would be segregated or strictly one race or the other, but no complaints from the performers about their counterparts. It's good to hear that even if the public was still harbouring racist sentiments, the performers were able to look beyond colour and get to know each other well. Good job Barbara! Any other stories from the road? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Touch The Wall Of Sound (2 CD version) Sent: 11/12/98 10:05 am Received: 11/13/98 2:39 am From: David Marsteller, daveXXXXXXXXeflin.org To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com Hi All! I got my copy of Touch The Wall Of Sound (the 2CD version) over the weekend. It has 60 songs. Er, how many did the 3CD version have? Dave /************************************************************************/ /** David Marsteller daveXXXXXXXXeflin.org **/ /************************************************************************/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: court rejects Sent: 11/12/98 2:32 am Received: 11/13/98 2:39 am From: Paul MacArthur, RtfXXXXXXXX.edu To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXities.com >Attorneys for the record companies >appealed to the Supreme Court, but the court sided with the band, >rejecting the appeal without comment or dissent. See >http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2557021286-652 If the court rejects the case without comment, that means they decided not to hear it. It doesn't mean they side with either party. It means the don't think the case merits being heard by the court, regardless of the current outcome. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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