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Volume #0191 December 6, 1998
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Equal Employment Opportunities Campaign-Conducted for Plans For Progress
Subject: Re: Things Are Changing
Sent: 12/03/98 9:05 am
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: Brad Elliott, sur online.net
Mark Landwehr wrote:
> Phil wrote the
>track & produced it...From what I've heard, as the backing track
>for an unreleased Spector production (which one?), Phil gave it to
>EEOC to use on their public service announcements - Brian then
>picked it up as a backing track (which he slightly altered) for
>"Don't Hurt My Little Sister." Brian USED it, he didn't write it.
>Chronologically, it was Phil's, then EEOC's, then Brian's...
Whoa! Phil may have produced it, but he certainly didn't write it!
The unreleased Spector production was a Darlene Love version of
"Don't Hurt My Little Sister," written by Brian and given to
Spector. Both Brian and Jack Nitzsche, who arranged the session,
have corroborated that fact. In fact, according to Nitzsche, Brian
played piano on the session because Leon Russell was too drunk.
Spector reportedly never released the song because he didn't have
a hand in writing it and Brian wouldn't give him any of the credit
(as other songwriters did). After Spector decided not to release
the song, Brian recut it with the Beach Boys (it's *not* the same
backing track) and released it on the BEACH BOYS TODAY album in
early 1965.
Later that year, Jerry Riopelle reworked Spector's track into
"Things Are Changing" for the EEOC's use. The correct production
credit should be to Spector (for the instrumental track), Riopelle
(for the vocal arrangement), plus whoever supervised the actual
lead vocal session -- I'm sure that differed from version to
version. Riopelle apparently cut the Blossoms' vocals, but I'm
sure somebody at Motown did the Supremes' vocals and somebody on
the East Coast worked with Jay & the Americans. I doubt Riopelle
flew all over the country to supervise the vocal sessions.
As for the writing credit on "Things Are Changing," it can be
argued that if you create a new melody over the rhythm track for
another song, it's a new song and you don't have to credit the
original song's authors. However, in these litigious times, most
music copyright attorneys are recommending that their clients err
on the side of over-compensation in regard to songwriting credits.
(Which is why Holly, Allison and Petty are credited as co-authors
on the Beach Boys' recently-released "Christmas Time Is Here Again."
Unless somebody told them, I doubt most people would guess that
the song was written to the rhythm track of "Peggy Sue.") So, in
all fairness, I think the writing credit for "Things Are Changing"
should be Wilson-Spector.
Surf's up!
Brad Elliott
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Subject: Things Are Changing
Sent: 12/03/98 5:09 pm
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: Scott Bauman, ScottBa l.msn.com
john rausch wrote:
"what 2 disc anthology of Supremes do you have? I have a 2 disc set
called Anthology and Things Are Changing is not on mine..."
Apparently, the Supremes 2 CD Anthology was first released several
years ago (1986?), and then re-released a few years ago (1995?) with
a different track listing.
-- Scott
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Subject: Things Are Changing
Sent: 12/06/98 9:09 am
Received: 12/06/98 9:59 am
From: Jamie LePage, le_page ities.com
Mark Landwehr wrote:
>Brian's lawyers can't do anything here, Scott - Phil wrote the
>track & produced it...
I believe this is partially incorrect, Mark. Although I too am
adamant that Phil produced this track (I also believe other
alleged Rioppell productions Close Your Eyes & Home of the Brave
are Spector as well), I am quite certain that Brian wrote "Don't
Hurt..." for Ronnie (many claim it was written for Darlene), and
Brian gave this song to Spector [insert "Mike Love actually wrote
it but never got credit" joke here].
>From what I've heard, as the backing track for an
>unreleased Spector production (which one?)...
>From Collecting Phil Spector, (Fitzpatrick & Fogerty):
"The backing track, originally intended for a proposed Ronettes
version of the Beach Boys' 'Don't Hurt My Little Sister,' was
produced by Spector with Brian Wilson on piano. When that
project was not completed, Spector kept the tapes and later
used them as a contribution to the EEOC campaign to increase
employment of minority youth. The song 'Things Are Changing'
was recorded over Spector's track by the Blossoms, Supremes and
Jay and the Americans. (A rumored fourth version, supposedly
sung in Spanish by Julio Angel and Lucecita, remains unverified.)
Jerry Riopelle recorded the Blossoms' over Spector's track
in the only release of the song by Spector's organization."
>A small-hole 7" platter was produced for the Supremes version, as
>well as the Blossoms & Jay and The Americans, and, reportedly, a
>pic sleeve came with them.
I've heard 4000 copies of the original 45 edition of "Things Are
Changing" by the Blossoms were distributed to U.S. radio stations
in May 1966. The recording was issued on a 33 1/3 rpm small-hole 7"
disc, with Things Are Changing appearing on both sides (T4LM-
8172-1). It came with a picture sleeve, a photoless graphic only
sleeve that simply said THE BLOSSOMS SING: THINGS ARE CHANGING.
There are no writer/arranger/producer credits on the disc or
sleeve. However, if you look at the credits on the Jay and the
Americans version (as included in their Legendary Masters CD "Come
a Little Bit Closer" - [CDP-7-93448-2]), the song is credited as
written by Brian Wilson/Phil Spector, and as produced by Phil
Spector and Jerry Riopell. I believe these are the right credits,
for surely this was Brian's song and Phil's rhythm track.
--
le_page ities.com
RodeoDrive/5030
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Subject: The Best of Little Peggy March
Sent: 12/04/98 12:31 am
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: Doc Rock, docr .com
Peggy March
The Best of Little Peggy March
Taragon-1027
by Doc Rock for Discoveries Magazine
When I interviewed Peggy March for Discoveries in 1996, she was
lamenting the fact that there had never been an authorized CD
compilation of her material. When I pitched the idea of a Peggy
March CD to a couple of reissue labels, I was informed that such a
project was rendered impractical by the exorbitant fee RCA wanted
for the master tapes.
Well, it looks like someone at Taragon records was finally able to
strike a deal with Nipper.
The subtitle of this new, authorized CD is: "the essential singles
collection 1962-1968." In other words, Taragon favored Peggy's
American 45 sides over her wealth of other material, such as:
teen-rocker LP cuts from her 1963 I WILL FOLLOW HIM album;
country-pop LP cuts from her NO FOOLIN' album; unreleased material;
or her plethora of foreign-language recordings.
And there are a lot of foreign-language recordings Taragon could
have used. Because her tender years made touring in the US
problematical in 1963, Peggy left the US and lived in Europe for
many years. There she had numerous German, Japanese, French,
Italian, and Spanish hits. This success gave her a great career
overall, but left her largely regarded in the US as a "One Hit
Wonder," which she definitely is not.
The "essential singles" are presented chronologically, starting
with her first record, "Little Me," which neither she nor the
record-buying public liked. Next is the classic "I Will Follow
Him," the song that made her the youngest female to ever make #1 on
Billboard, a distinction which stands to this day. This cut is the
only one on the CD to feature studio talk -- we learn that the 45
of "Follow Him" used take 9.
The subsequent cuts include both her hits and her more notable
non-hit 45s. The last three or four cuts will be new to most
listeners. "This Heart Wasn't Made to Kick Around" has a great
hook played on violins, and "If You Loved Me (Soul Coaxing-Ame
Caline)," recorded just five years after "Follow," reveal Ms.
March as a much more mature and sophisticated, yet still very
exciting female vocalist.
As a 45 collector from way back, I've never been much of a
cheerleader for stereo over mono or for CDs over vinyl. But RCA
must have some great master tapes, as the sound on this CD is
truly awesome. Comparing the cuts on this CD to the original 45s
is like comparing blooming roses to rose buds. Both are nice, but
in each case, the former outshines the latter. "Watch What You Do
With My Baby" and "The Impossible Happened" sound especially
impressive.
Speaking of comparing the original 45s to the CD cuts, track 11,
"Can't Stop Thinkin' About Him," is a very different edit of the
same recording used for the 45, and runs 23 seconds longer. Cut 15,
"He Couldn't Care Lees," is also somewhat different from the 45
edit. Many of the cuts SEEM like remixes, merely because the
stereo CD sound reveals so much more than the mono 45s did. And
the final cut is the sole sample of her non-US career, the
Japanese version of "I Will Follow Him."
The liners include interview material, session information for all
21 tracks, eight photos, and chart data. Most cuts have extended
fadeouts. All in all, a very satisfying if overdue package for a
vastly underrated singer.
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Subject: Collectables/Cinderllas/Supremes
Sent: 12/03/98 9:26 am
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, w et.com
> From: JM, jhor eyan.edu
>I am about to order music for a radio station where I work, from
>the Collectables label.
>I'm wondering if there are particular titles to avoid, or
>especially good ones, or if I should be wary of the entire
>Collectables catalog.
> The Exciters - Tell Him (CD)
okay sound quality. I don't like the tracks on this one as much as
the stuff they recorded for Roulette/Bang. The complete first album
plus two unedited versions of "Tell Him," and "He's Got The Power."
It's pretty good all in all, but is this is a commercial radio
station, they might not find a lot of the stuff playable. Very
little orchestration on these tracks. Brenda, was actually
violently ill while she was recording the album, so her voice
isn't always the quality of "Tell Him."
> Patti La Belle and the BlueBells - Golden Classics (CD)
I have the Canadian version of this one put out by Isba Records.
Great cuts. Some perfect sound quality, other awful! Things like
"Decatur Street," and "Academy Award," sound like their from
scrathcy vinyl! Pretty good otherwise!
> The Jelly Beans and Friends (CD)
Very good stuff on this one! Doc Rock is probably gonna write a
page about this one. All the Jelly Beans track from their
unissued album are here. Very good stuff from them! The other
songs on the album, songs by the Butterflies, the Adlibs, Bessie
Banks (the best blues tune ever "Go Now,") and my personal
favourite the Charmettes "Stop The Wedding." This song is
incredible! Very Spectorish! I notice the sound quality on this
one is fairly decent, although if you turn up the volume you can
hear a bit of a buzz. Wow! If anything, buy this one! Well worth
it!
>From: IAC, ian alnet.co.uk
>Yes, I agree with the comments about the Cinderellas
>"Please Don't Wake Me" - it's a killer. I've always regarded it as
>a "sister" record to "I Never Dreamed"
I like "Please Don't Wake Me too, but I really think "Baby Baby,"
is my fav. The pounding beat of a Crystals song with the girls
just crying. Sheila B and I agree on this one, it almost brings
tears to our eyes. I find more in common between "I Never Dreamed,"
and "Baby Baby," than with "Please Don't Wake Me."
>I learned about the session tape through a friend who's
>compiling the CD on which it will appear. He was given access to
>tapes from the EMI-owned vaults, which currently includes
>Dimension, Colpix, Roulette, Dynovoice, Jamie/Guyden and a whole
>lot of others. The CD is due out early in the new year -
>I'll post any relevant info as I get it.
Great! Thanks so much. I can't wait for this one. Who's the friend?
By the way, does anyone here know Malcomn Baumgart and Mick
Patrick? They write almost all the liners for girl group cds these
days. I'm dying to talk with them. And thanks for clarifying who
those Cinderellas in the pic were!
Re:supremes
>what 2 disc anthology of Supremes do you have? I have a 2 disc set
>called Anthology and Things Are Changing is not on mine...
The brand new edition of the anthology has 26 cuts on each side.
It's not the pink and blue cover one, it has a pic of the girls
performing live on the front and back. Put out in 1994? Sometime
pretty recent, maybe even 1997.
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Subject: Long Live The Kingston Trio LIVE
Sent: 12/03/98 9:09 am
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: Marty Rudnick, mrud uro.com
From: Don Richardson, dric s.com
>I had the opportunity a few weeks ago to hear and visit briefly
>with the Kingston Trio. Yes...they are still performing after 40+
>years with two of the three original members---Bob Shane and Nick
>Reynolds. I wouldn't have traded the experience of hearing them
>live, but it is time they let some younger musicians carry on the
>name.
Marty sez:
Hang down your head and cry! I couldn't disagree more. I've seen
them twice in the last three years. Sure, their gettin' on in
years, but they still sing great and sing with gusto! Why, oh why
replace them with ringers? I don't see the logic.
They are an American historical and musical treasure. I highly
recommend you see them while they're still able to perform.
On a related note, I would *love* someday to form or join a folk
trio to play in local pubs.
/Marty
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Subject: Christmas Goodies
Sent: 12/03/98 10:55 am
Received: 12/04/98 7:49 am
From: Rich Briere, rfbr tra.net
So, every year the Holidays roll around and we tend to dig out
many of the old standards, give them another listen, and put them
on the shelf again. Yawn.......;-O
Hark......it's the the herald angels!!
We'll, perhaps they're not exactly the angels, but nonetheless....
.you may want to run to your favorite music retailer and snag a
copy of the NEW "Chicago 25 Christmas Album". Great Stuff, great
arrangements........and fun to play loud!
Bass-ically Yours,
Rich Briere
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Subject: Little Eva and Simon & Garfunkel
Sent: 12/06/98 5:55 am
Received: 12/06/98 8:48 am
From: Paul Urbahns, Paulur com
<< Re: Paul Urbahns' comment on Little Eva, I'm very surprised
because I was told that she sang both LET'S TURKEY TROT and
KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY BABY as well as THE LOCO-
MOTION during her set on a concert in Eastborne, England, just
the other Saturday, 11/21. >>
Good to hear it, the show I saw was at the Kentucky State Fair the
middle of August and she did The Locomotion and some covers.
For Simon & Gafunkel fans, there is a new CD of Christmas music
being marketed by WalGreens Drug Stores with the rare S&G song
"The Star Carol". As I remember it, it was the b-side to Silent
Night/7 o'clock News when it was out as a single. I also have it
on a Columbia Special Products division various artist Christmas
album. I recent bought the new S&G boxed set primarily for that
song and it's on there. However, for some reason the Box set
claims it's previously unreleased. Is there anything different
between the box set version and the previous two releases?
Paul Urbahns
paulur com
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