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Volume #0198 December 22, 1998
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Subject: Holloways
Sent: 12/21/98 9:34 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: David Feldman, felXXXXXXXXderables.com
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
Thanks for the wonderful Spector stories, Carol. When I saw Darlene
Love perform as part of her book tour, she mentioned that she was
a little jealous that Tina got to sing "River Deep" -- she always
assumed it was "her" song.
> Blossoms and maybe some others too like Clydie King, one of the
> Holloways, Brenda and Pat.
I've always loved Brenda Holloway's stuff, particularly her hits,
"Every Little Bit Hurts," "When I'm Gone," and "Just Look What
You've Done." Her albums are solid, too, although full of remakes.
I never quite understood how her recording career progressed. She
was released on Tamla, yet she seemed to record in L.A., without
direct access to Motown's writers and musicians. There were
rumors, at the time, that Diana Ross didn't want B.H. anywhere
near Detroit, although I have no idea if this is true.
Can you tell us anything more about Ms. Holloway, and particularly
what she is doing now and anything about her sister, Pat, who I
didn't realize was also a singer.
Thanks,
Dave
Dave Feldman
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Subject: I Wonder
Sent: 12/21/98 1:16 pm
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: john rausch, XXXXXXXXnet
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
Jimmie wrote:
I was referring to the mix that has that extra "ba-RRUMP RRUMP
RRUMP, ba-RRUMP RRUMP RRUMP" at the beginning of "I Wonder" by the
Ronettes...
That is the stereo version.
And to Carol Kaye:
Have you ever recorded anything on your own?
John Rausch
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Subject: Re: Shirelles "Lower the Flame"
Sent: 12/21/98 9:27 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: Doc Rock, docrXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
>Yes, it was the Shirelles who did "Lower the Flame" - an early track
>of theirs - writers are Snyder/Kahan/Williams.
>Ian Chapman
My sister taught my brother and me to sing background on that song
on a long car trip waaay back when, and I'v e been looking for it
for years. I look on every Shirells comp, but never see it!
But thanks, Ian!
Doc
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Subject: "Johnny Angel"
Sent: 12/21/98 9:27 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: Doc Rock, docrXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
Carol,
I wonder, were you on the "Johnny Angel" date? Is so can you clear
something up?
Dick Clark and other authors and liner-note writers say that
Darlene and the Blossoms sing background on "JA." Even Shelley
Fabares says it was Darlene. And Darlene says the Blossoms were on
it. I don't hear it, though.
Meanwhile, when I interviewed Lou Adler for my book on the
complete history of Liberty Records, I took the opportunity to ask
Lou Adler about it. He said it was not Darlene, but Sally Stevens
and her group who sang background on "JA."
Further, when I interviewed Fanita James, she assured me that the
Blossoms were NOT on that date.
So what do I believe, my ears and Lou and Fanita, or Darlene and
Shelley?
Doc
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Subject: Re: The Blue Things
Sent: 12/21/98 10:27 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: David Bash, BasXXXXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
> Speaking of obscure psyche/pop. Is anyone familiar with a
> Midwestern group called The Blue Things. They did a great
> Beatlesque song called "Pretty Things". Most of their early
> material is very British Invasion influenced but like the big guys
> they progressed to release some very psychedelic sounding material
> like "The Coney Island Of Your Mind" and "You Can Live In Our Tree".
> Perhaps some of this material is a bit contrived but it's
> interesting to see how even the so-called garage bands evolved and
> went through the various stages from Mersey to folk-rock to
> psychedelic to burnout. A comp of theirs called "The Blue Things
> Story" was released on Collectables a few years back.
>
> Javed
Hi Javed,
I like The Blue Things quite a bit. I agree with your assessment
that their early stuff was very influenced by The British Invasion,
but for me their midwestern vocal and musical accents make it
more reminiscent of The Beau Brummels.
Other than the comps you mention, The Blue Things had an ultra
rare, self- titled LP on RCA Records that has a lot of their best
mid-period stuff like "High Life," "Doll House," and "The Man On
The Street". If you do search for this LP, make sure to find the
stereo version because the Collectables CDs are in mono.
The leader of The Blue Things, Val Stoecklein, released a solo LP
in the late 60s and, I believe, recently passed away.
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Sue Thompson & Coca Cola
(was: Collectibles and Sue Thompson)
Sent: 12/22/98 12:51 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: Matthew Kaplan, TweXXXXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
Funny that somebody should bring up the topic of Sue Thompson,
well not that funny actually but it does give me the chance to
bring up the topic of a strange Sue Thompson rarity that I snagged
a while back. What they were was an original collection of Coca
Cola 12" promo releases each of which came in a beautiful picture
sleeve with a brief discussion on the back about the artist and a
large photo on the front. The music itself, each artist takes
their latest hits and mixes it with the Coka Cola jingle. Sounds
cool doesn't it. The ones that I found were:
SUE THOMPSON: SWINGS THE JINGLE...DRINK COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. TX101 12"PS 1965
PETULA CLARK: PETULA CLARK SWINGS THE JINGLE...DRINK COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. 12"PS 1965
FOUR SEASONS: THE FOUR SEASONS SWING THE JINGLE...DRINK COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. TX94 12"PS 1964
FREDDY & THE DREAMERS: SWING THE JINGLE-THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. TX104 12"PS 1965
JAY & THE AMERICANS: SWING THE JINGLE-THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. TX112 12"PS 1965
LITTLE MILTON: LITTLE MILTON SWINGS THE JINGLE...DRINK COKE
McCANN-ERICKSON INC.-COCA COLA CO. TX111 12"PS 1965
And if that wasn't enough I also found the following both discs
are 10" double sided acetates with two tracks on each side pressed
at Gotham Pressing in New York and dated 12/20/65. The artist's on
the acetates are:
Acetate 1:
(A) Coasters / Jay & The Americans
(B) Petula Clark / Petula Clark (two versions)
Acetate 2:
(A) Little Milton (version 1) / Tom Jones
(B) Supremes (Baby Love) / Little Milton (version 2)
Does anybody know how many of these suckers were made and what the
value of them might be? Is there a real market for such items.
Matthew Kaplan
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Subject: To Carol
Sent: 12/22/98 3:09 am
Received: 12/22/98 7:16 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, wXXXXXXXXt.com
To: Spectropop List, spectrXXXXXXXXties.com
> So I am pretty sure it's Darlene and
> Blossoms and maybe some others too like Clydie King, one of the
> Holloways, Brenda and Pat. You saw them around in those years too,
> constantly as well as some fine other singers, Jackie Ward, and
> Gracia Nitzsche (Jack's wife at that time).
Brenda was moonlighting for Phil while she was signed to Motown? Wow!
Clydie King is another interesting character. Was she actually a
member of any set of the Crystals? I've asked Barbara, but she
might just think of the legitimate Crystals, and not the scores of
other vocalists that used the name at Philles. And did Phil have
anything to do with Clydie's songs "The Thrill Is Gone," and "
Missing My Baby"? They sound very Spectoresque.
> Even Cher as I understand it, could have sung some background, but
> she was NOT a regular background studio singer at all, that's a
> highly professional fine career -- you have to be one of the
> greatest singers of all time to be a successful studio singer, be
> able to sight-read music, etc. and have a ton of live singing
> experience to do that line of work. While I love Cher as a person,
> played on their things, and she's a fine actress, well.....you get
> it I'm sure.
What do we think of Cher's new single gang? I love it, and Cher
isn't necessarily my favourite singer. Very danceable!
Will
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