__________________________________________________________________ ______________ _____________ ______________ _____________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P _____________ ______________ _____________ __________________________________________________________________ Volume #0247 March 25, 1999 __________________________________________________________________ Covered in long lasting PVC to give you years of portable pleasureSubject: Info about unusual copy of Philles 115? Received: 03/25/99 12:14 pm From: J Moorehous, JMoorehXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com I just picked up a copy of Then He Kissed Me on the black and blue Philles label that is backed not with Brother Julius, but with All Grown Up. Interestingly, the type face on the words "All Grown Up" is a serif typeface that is different from that normally used. Apart from the title, all other information on the label--publisher, time, writer, etc.--is in the usual typeface and is for Brother Julius, not All Grown Up. Based on this, my theory is that a small batch of Then He Kissed Me was mistakenly pressed with All Grown Up on the flip. Rather than throw the records away or print up a new label for All Grown Up, they took the label master for Brother Julius, re- typset the title without bothering to match the typeface, and left the rest of the label alone--thus resulting in this curiosity. Can anyone confirm this? Or tell me how many of these there are? I'm guessing very few, as I can't find it mentioned in any of my sources, but my library is not vast nor is my knowledge encyclopedic. Thanks. Joe Moorehouse --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Nobody's Home To Go To Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Kieron Tyler, kierXXXXXXXX.org.uk To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com Jamie LePage said - >>I particularly like the Wine/Bayer song "Nobody's Home To >>Go Home To" by Billie Davis. Ian, you don't mention the >>original recording of this song. Surely it must be a US >>artist. Do tell! And Ian Chapman replied >I'd like to know too, Jamie!! Can anyone else shed >any light on this? This is little help, but when I interviewed Billie Davis for Record Collector magazine (it was in the Jan issue), I asked her where she first got the song from, and she couldn't remember, but thought it was picked by the producer - who I think was Michael Aldred, now deceased.... All the best, Kieron --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Joe Meek's Girls & Is This What I Get Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXXXXXXties.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com I wrote: >>First of all, perhaps my very favorite Joe Meek record >>ever, "My Friend Bobby" by Pamela Blue is on here...I have >>never seen it on CD before in spite of the fabulous Joe >>Meek reissues that have been issued in recent years. Ian Chapman replied: >I'd highly recommend the 29-track RPM CD "Let's Go - >Joe Meek's Girls!".....it has most of his girlie tracks >on, including TEN unissued. I stand corrected. Indeed, both Pamela Blue sides are on this CD. I had completely forgotten. I too think this comp is really great. Very cool Glenda Collins tracks on here as well. I also wrote: >>Marianne Faithfull's take on Ronnie's "Is This What I Get >>For Loving You" is pathetic. The agony, longing, anguish >>built into the lyric and so effectively communicated in the >>Ronettes version is completely absent here. Marianne sounds >>as cold as a Frigidaire on this....Didn't Oldham cover this >>again with Billy Nicholls? It was far better there. Ian commented: >I do think Marianne offers an interesting take on the >song, with her aloof, rather fragile reading of the >lyrics... Kieron Tyler added >Funnily enough - this is probably my fave Marianne 60s >single (after 'Hier Ou Demain'). I think its one of >Oldham's most stylish productions in his kitchen sink UK >Spector way, and I reckon it's better than Billy Nicholls >version. Granted, it's different to the original, but >that's probably what makes it stand out to me, its a >really English sound.... Fair enough. I did comment that "[the clunkers] too are worth hearing, especially when they are covers of US GG records." I am happy to have the track on the comp. Ian's use of "aloof" and "fragile" are appropriate, I think, although I do stand by my original comment that I don't feel any of the anguish of the lyric in her version. To correct my previous post, however, it was not Nicholls who covered this, but Twice As Much. After going back and comparing Marianne's version with Twice As Much, I think Oldham got it better on the latter version, which I guess was recorded after Marianne's recording. I doubt it's the "English" take on the work that puts me off though, as I adore all these UK GG comps that have come out in recent years. Sometimes I think UK covers are better than the US originals. I don't think it's particularly a national difference, nor a black/white difference either. When it comes to the difference between US and UK sound, the primary difference (imo only) is that US moved toward independent production earlier than UK did; often in-house productions and arrangements suffered (on both sides of the pond) from a lack of imagination. In the case of Marianne's Is This What I Get, my comment was specifically directed at her interpretation, not the Oldham production or arrangement. As Doc Rock said: Some people's "fours" are others' "ones"! That's what makes the world go 'round, and it's what I find so interesting about the discussions on Spectropop. Thanks for the comments, guys, and to all who haven't heard The Girls' Scene, check it out! All the best, Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Good Vibrations Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Big L, biXXXXXXXXtmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com >no way is "Good Vibrations" anywhere near the best pop or >rock single ever, although Mojo's recent poll says so) The only thing I can say about this is that I can't remember another record having the kind of impact that GV did in November 1966. It was the most fantastic thing I had ever heard. GV is one of the many songs that has been worn out by oldies stations and advertisers. The magic is gone. I also feel that it's momentum was killed by MonkeeMania. "I'm A Believer" went staright to #1, and radio stations everywhere hopped on the Monkee bandwagon. The best way for ME to listen to Good Vibrations is on a "time capsule" tape with the songs of it's day. Against that backdrop, some of the magic comes back. There has been some discussion about SMiLE here lately. My opinion is that GV sounds great and perfectly at home with the SMiLE cuts. == Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: biXXXXXXXXtmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Rockin's Sax Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Matthew Kaplan, TweeXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com In response to the comment >Why is ANYONE honoring Kenny G ? Is there another >one more deserving? Paul Urbahns wrote >I vote for Boots Randolph, the original Mr Sax Man of >Rock and Roll that has been overlooked by rock fans >because he lived and works in Nashville. While I don't disagree with placing Boots as a top notch player, I've always been blown away by the total tenor sax skronk of Mr. Red Prysock (1926-1993), crossed from early rock to R&B to Jump Blues. Red, who recorded sides for Mercury also spent years backing up his brother Arthur Prysock, who of course hot a number of hits on Old Town Records in the '50s and '60s. Red also did dates with Tiny Bradshaw, Tiny Grimes, Lonnie Johnson, the awesome Wynonie Harris, Sir Charles Thompson, Sil Austin and Joe Williams amongst others. If you are interested in this kind of thing you owe it to yourself to check out the best of Red Prysock on AVI. Matthew Kaplan --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Sax Props Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com >I vote for Boots Randolph, the original Mr Sax Man of >Rock and Roll I like Boots, especially on Elvis' "Reconsider Baby," but I think King Curtis wrote the book on rock 'n' roll sax. Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Sue Thompson Received: 03/24/99 1:01 am From: Shelby Riggs, fifties4eXXXXXXXX.com To: spectropop, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com My congratulations on a very well written article on one of the "Forgotten" singers of Rock & Roll. The article that Mike Kelly wrote for Discoveries Magazine on Sue Thompson was superb. Job well done Mike. Shelby Riggs --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Kinks Received: 03/25/99 12:14 pm From: Big L, biXXXXXXXXtmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com I said: > Listen to the Kinks songs "Down By The Riverside," and > "Phenomenal Cat." > There ought to be a word to describe songs like these, but > I haven't found it yet. Then Dave Mirich said: >>>What album are these songs from? Sorry, Dave. "Sitting By The Riverside" (I mislabeled the song) and "Phenomenal Cat" are both on "Village Green Preservation Society." Other songs on that album I'd recommend are: Do You Remember Walter Picture Book Big Sky Village Green Starstruck All these songs highlight that pixieish Ray Davies wit that often emerged in those days. For example, "Picture Book": written by a man who didn't believe in cameras. Also, the last song on the album is "People Take Pictures Of Each Other." Another album that features that wit (but not as much of it) is "Arthur." To wit: Victoria Drivin' Australia Shangri-La Young & Innocent Days "Australia" is a treasure. It sounds just like a travel agency jingle would have in those days, with a gorgeous Beach Boys - like falsetto bridge. I have a suggestion. Instead of recommending albums and groups, why not recommend individual songs, get up a list, and have a vote. The top 60 entrees could then be put on a Spectropop soundtrack tape. (No, I'm not suggesting another "Net Sounds.") == Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: biXXXXXXXXtmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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