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Volume #0268 June 6, 1999
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The Teenager Records Made For The Hit Parade
Subject: flips and rarities
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: john rausch,xxx.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Jamie wrote about a new Ronettes cd he found: Sounds
interesting, what is on the front cover? Also of interest
is a new import cd called Phil Spector`s flips and
rarities. PS001,is the only thing I can find for the label,
I have a feeling it`s from the Marginal label tho as it
sounds like their quality output, from satisfactory to
downright bad. Sounds to all be dubbed from record. And lots
of typos. It is sort of a "best of" from the original
Japanese import 3 cd set called Phil Spector masterpieces
1,2 and 3. The cover is the famous cartoon parade from the
2 lp set. Some tracks are really not that rare in my
opinion, but are included. All these tracks are supposedly
either written by of produced by Phil.
tracks:
I idolize you-Ike & Tina
Black Pearl - Sonny Charles & Checkmates
Dream For Sale - Gene Pitney
Some Of Your Loving - Johnny Nash
World Of Tears - Johnny Nash
When You Dance - Billy Storm
Spanish Harlem - Santo & Johnny
Mr Robin - Spectors 3
Some Of Your Lovin - Emil O Conner
I Love You Betty - Terry Day
Thats Alright Baby - Gary Crosby
Yes I Love You - Paris Sisters
Thats What Girls Are For - Timothy Hay
Where Can You Be - Tony & Joe
Raincoat In The River - Sammy Turner
To Know Him Is To Love Him - Lesley Gore
Be My Girl Ray Peterson
Unchained Melody - Blackwells
Oh Why - Teddy Bears
Home Of The Brave - Bonnie & Treasures
Why Cant A Boy & Girl Just Stay In Love - April Stevens
Why Don`t They Let Us Fall In Love - Ronettes
The Screw - Crystals
Bumbershoot - Phil Harvey (Uncle Phil)
Woman In Love - Ronettes
He's A Quiet Guy - Darlene Love
Here It Comes & Here I Go - Jeri Bo Keno
Puddin n Tain - Alleycats
Dream For Sale - Joey Paige
I'm So Happy (tra la la) - Ducanes
John Rausch
Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxp://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/
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Subject: Perry Botkin...
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Someone asked about Perry Botkin, a very dear friend of
mine. We have lunch sometimes together. He lives in the
hills behind Studio City, a beautiful glass home there,
lovely man.
Perry is still very active with recording, but only with
his own home-studio, doing some avant-guard stuff. I'm not
especially a fan of avant-guard things but his are
marvelous creations. There is a link to Perry's site where
you can hear some soundbytes of his latest things....just
click on the links site. Think you'll love his music.
There are many other names from the 60s there too, their
sites and all. I've been in communication with Upton, the
lead singer of Spiral Staircase who lives in Alabama, and
Jewel Akens who lives here in LA, plus many others mostly
here or in Nashville.
Janis Ian just lately moved back to LA to do her album
here, she was going to hire me for it..we'll see. She had
a health problem there for awhile but is absolutely fine
now, going like the wind.
Let's see, who else...yes, just bumped into Maxine Weldon
who was here for her live show, something about "Blues
Women", and she sat in and sang at Earl Palmer's great
opening Jazz Night at RIX in Santa Monica (every Tuesday
night a "jazz night jam")....it was terrific.
Maxine and I both fell out at the mention of our names....
I've always tho't the greatest of her singing, I remember
her well and there we both were - it was so wonderful to
see her again. Turns out I played on her first album in
1969, produced by Bobby Shad (good guy, sharp as they come)
for Mainstream, with Earl on drums on that one.
She wowed the crowd (sung some great jazz) which included
Mike Stoller (of Leiber and Stoller) who has lived here in
LA for 10 yrs, loves it. Mike and I kibbitzed about the "ol'
days, Phil Spector etc.".
I spoke w/David Axelrod the other week, good ol' Dave, a
little "shy" yet ("this g----m music today is s---,
there's no g----m music out worth listening to...ours was
the best of times" etc.etc.etc.). We mused over his "Song
Of Innocence" lps we cut (again Earl on drums) back then,
and the Hampton Hawes "Northern Windows" 70s lp at Fantasy
he produced. He's fine, doing OK, but I sense that everyone
really misses the times when we were all active and very
busy together cutting tons of stuff.
Perry misses it too, but stays busy with his music. He
runs, and in general takes good care of himself. He's not
too much into "the good ol' days" musings all that much
but we do discuss a lot of our people, where they are, how
they're doing, etc.
Bob Alcivar is having a website being done by the same
webman I have (see my Message Board:
http://www.carolkaye.com/cmb/htm
and he sent me his latest CD, the "Symphonic Sounds of the
Beach Boys" music, it's great, w/The Royal Philharmonic
Orchestra (what a great orchestra!), and his arranging on
that will make you cry, Brian's music sounds so terrific...
The wonderful Bob Alcivar (I worked for him on his first
film score, "Butterflies Are Free" and noted then what a
fantastic writer he was; he later wrote for Manhattan
Transfer too - many other projects, but lately, mostly 1-
man synthesizer TV scores etc.) He will be doing some
project soon and will let you know.
In the meantime, keep in touch with my Links site as his
site will go up, sounds and all, within a week or so.
Announcements are all on my Message Board too, what people
are doing, many current things like that.
Yes, I have to agree, the 60s music can't be beat. The
sounds are real (no phony paper bag drums, no ringing
undefined bass sounds there like now) and the music and
singing was sincere, very real.
Nowadays you have to hunt for anything with any feeling in
it....altho' the musicianship is sometimes better....more
refined, but still we played hard and with a lot of
feeling which doesn't seem to get on the recordings these
days. Yes, it was definitely a lot more fun back then. And
we miss it and each other too, but some of us still keep
active, and see quite a few of each other.
I'm playing jazz these days, currently going to be at the
Jazz Bakery this coming Tuesday and Wednesday, June 8th
and 9th, with the great jazz sax legend Ray Pizzi and fine
studio-jazz guitarist Mitch Holder. They're starting to
play our album on the jazz station KLON here and another
station in Seattle "Thumbs Up" which is selling very well.
If anyone in LA wants to come, the Jazz Bakery - 08 -11PM
both on Tuesday and Wed., phone is (310) 271-9039 (no
reservations necessary). It is at 3233 Helms Ave., Culver
City, just east of the San Diego Freeway between Robertson
and La Cienega, and 1/2 block so. of Venice Blvd. This is a
nice place, safe, free parking, $15.00 and there's food and
drinks available in the lobby (optional, not required at
all).
Regards,
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com (for links)
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Subject: Turtle Soup
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Stewart Mason, flaxxx.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Good to see the list is getting back into activity again!
I just recently purchased the original vinyl of the
Turtles' swan song, TURTLE SOUP, which I've been looking
for for ages. (I was able to get all the other vinyl
reissues Rhino did back in the early 80s, but I never
could find this one.) The album sounds even better than it
did when I played my sister's scratched-up copy when I was
a kid. But I've always wondered something that I've never
seen addressed: How did it happen that Ray Davies produced
this album? Davies was never very active as an outside
producer, as far as I know, and it's not like they were on
the same label or anything. Whose idea was it? Does anyone
know how the sessions went?
While I'll always think BATTLE OF THE BANDS is the Turtles'
musical and conceptual masterpiece ("Surfer Dan"! "I'm
Chief Kamanawanalea (We're the Royal Macadamia Nuts)"!
"Elenore"!), TURTLE SOUP is one of the great soft-pop
albums of the era, heads and shoulders above their
occasionally brilliant but very spotty earlier albums.
Actually, that reminds me of a related question -- two of
Rhino's 80s vinyl reissues (The Turtles' HAPPY TOGETHER
and the Monkees' MISSING LINKS) feature previously
unreleased versions of Goffin and King's wonderful "So
Goes Love." Did anyone else record this song and was any
version ever released at the time? It seems odd that such
a remarkable song would have two great renditions left in
the can -- the Turtles version is one of their all-time
best tracks -- but on the other hand, maybe the lyrics
were considered way too bitter for the time. It *is* an
awfully cynical lyric.
Stewart
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Subject: Del-Fi Records Story
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Paul MacArthur, rtxxx.edu
To: spectxxx.geocities.com
Here's my latest for you to check out: Del-Fi Records
story in the Houston Press. Quotes from Bruce Johnston,
Bob Keane and Elliot Easton. Anyone interested in the
story of a west coast independent label from the late 50s
and early 60s will like it (I hope).
http://www.houstonpress.com/archives/1998/052799/music1.html
Paul
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Subject: Ladybug Transistor
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Dave Mirich, Dmxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
I recently read a review of a new CD by a band called
Ladybug Transistor. The reviewer, Michael Roberts of
Westword magazine in Denver (a huge Brian Wilson fan)
compared the mood of the CD to that of Pet Sounds. Last
year, the best thing I heard was the CD "Free Mars" by
Lusk (and also the Ya Lo Tengo CD, as well as "Tone Soul
Evolution" by the Apples in Stereo). This year, I would
have to say that this new CD by Ladybug Transistor is my
favorite so far. The strings and horns are played
exquisitely by non-studio musicians. The vocals and
harmonies are warm, subdued, and gentle. The sound is
unique to might years, yet certain songs evoke
remembrances of Bacharach, Love, and even Pet Sounds. I'm
not overly fond of the first CD from Ladybug Transistor,
except for the cover of Dennis Wilson's "Thoughts of You"
which is an outstanding alternative rock re-working of
this lovely song. However, on their first CD, the band
gives the best of the High Llamas a run for its money. I
don't often recommend new music, so you should run out and
buy this CD and let us know what you think.
Dave Mirich
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Subject: Minute Masters
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Here's a new subject about 60s music. On another list
Mike Devitch wrote:
I read in the country music column this morning that the
Oak Ridge Boys have released a 60-second single for those
odd moments when stations don't have enough time to play a
three-minute single. Great idea for them to get back on the
radio again and create publicity at the same time.
My response was:
It's actually not a new idea. Capitol records issued at
least two albums in a series called Minute Masters. I have
the one by Nat King Cole and there was one done with Buck
Owens songs. I remember using these albums when I was in
radio, back in the days when you had news every hour and
had to segue into it. Many people would use an
instrumental and fade it out, but these albums were
professionally edited versions of the songs all playing
about a minute so if you didn't have time for a full
record you could pull one of these and play a cut. Minute
Masters-good idea, but I don't know if they issued any
more than the two I mentioned. They were issued in the 60s.
Paul Urbahns
pauluxxxcom
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Subject: Re: Come Softly
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, docxxx.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
> BTW--someone told me that the song was called
> simply "Come Softly" but that this title was considered
> just a bit too suggestive for the times...true?
The original title was "Come Softly." This was when the
group was a duo, Gretchen and Barbara. Gary was added when
he happened to sing "Come Go With Me," and Gretchen thought
the two songs went well together.
The trio taped a seven-minute version called "Come Softly."
When the professional version was recorded, the title
was changed for reasons of taste, and Soft Rock was born!
Doc
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Subject: singles questions
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Stewart Mason, flaxxx.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
In a further attempt to spur discussion, here's part of a
haul of singles I bought out of the 10-cent box at Krazy
Kat records here in Albuquerque. I'd really appreciate any
information I can get on them.
Hamilton Camp -- "Here's To You" / "Leavin' Anyhow"
Both songs written by Hamilton Camp and produced and
arranged by, of all people, Felix Pappalardi. I think now
that I was mistaken, but I was under the impression that
Hamilton Camp, before he went full-time into acting, was a
folkie. These are definitely pop songs, of a rather
Broadway-inspired bent. I could hear Petula Clark covering
them on one of her late 60s LPs if that gives you an idea.
Are these songs representative of Camp's music career, and
if so, which albums are recommended?
The McCoys -- "Ko-Ko" / "Don't Worry Mother, Your Son's
Heart Is Pure"
Okay, I was vaguely familiar with the Feldman/Goldstein/
Gottehrer a-side, but oh my god! This b-side is exactly
why I constantly prowl the cheap bins at record stores --
you occasionally find bizarre gems like this. Written by
head McCoy Rick Derringer (then still known as Rick
Zehringer), "Don't Worry Mother" is a psych-influenced
freakout, complete with sitar and lyrics as weird as the
title. When was this released? My knowledge of the McCoys
is pretty hazy, but I was under the impression that their
heyday was 65-66, and this song is awfully forward-looking
to be that early. Also, is this available on any CD
reissues and did the McCoys release any other lite-psych
goodies like this?
Rejoice! -- "Golden Gate Park" (mono/stereo promo)
On Dunhill, no date (sounds like 1968 to me), written by
Tom and Nancy Brown (doesn't ring a bell), produced by the
great Steve Barri, arranged by the equally great Jimmie
Haskell. Soft pop triangulated somewhere between "San
Francisco," "The Rain, the Park and Other Things" and "
MacArthur Park." Does anyone know anything more?
The Turtles -- "Let Me Be" / "Your Maw Said You Cried"
Total geek question: I notice that the b-side's matrix
number is W 116 RE-1, which suggests that there's another
version of this song that got at least as far as mastering.
Anyone have any details on this? (What can I say, I'm
one of those people who finds stuff like that endlessly
fascinating.)
The Vogues -- "You're the One" / "Some Words"
The Vogues -- "The Land of Milk and Honey" / "True Lovers"
"You're the One" is the Tony Hatch/Petula Clark hit, one
of those rare Petula covers that's actually pretty good.
(How many terrible covers of "Downtown" have you heard?)
Both of these singles are on Pittsburgh's Co & Ce label,
so am I correct in assuming they pre-date "Five O'Clock
World"? The Vogues are one of those bands I quite like but
know next to nothing about.
Stewart
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RECORDS******************************
Stewart Allensworth Mason "Snake handling, but that's more on Dad's
Box 40172 side. And it has nothing to do with
Albuquerque NM 87196 religion, it's just which idiot will
www.rt66.com/~flamingo pick up the poisonous snakes."
************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE
PEOPLE*************************
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Subject: More Fleetwoods
Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am
>From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Doc Rock wrote:
>I forwarded the Fleetwoods comments to Gretchen and invited
>her to join SpectroPop.
Wow! That would be amazing. I "Truly Do" hope she signs on
for at least a little while.
The Fleetwoods records move me in a very special way. I can
listen to and analyze Spector, Brian Wilson, etc., but to me,
the Fleetwoods music transends all that intellectual
appreciation. For some reason, late at night, I tend to play
the Fleetwoods more often than any other artist. I never get
tired of their music. The productions are not dazzling, and
many of their tracks are covers, yet for some reason I do
not fully understand, their music holds great appeal to me.
Just listen to their interpretation of Skylark, for example.
Thanks, Michael, for inviting her to the list.
All the best,
Jamie
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Subject: Nuggets box
Sent: 06/05/19 1:23 am
Received: 06/05/99 12:15 am
>From: Glenn Sadin, gxxxinemedia.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com
Many of the bands only released a few singles because many
of them recorded for tiny independent labels who either
folded quickly, or were self-financed releases. Nearly
every track on the box is excellent, but my faves are the
Dovers, a mysterious band from Santa Barbara, CA. Domenic
Priore has been trying to gather information on the band,
and has been in contact with their drummer, but no one so
far has been able to locate a photo of them. I have a
cassette of all of their super-rare singles (on Miramar
and Reprise), and they are definitely overdue for reissue.
A great, overlooked band.
By the way, I had the interesting experience of playing
guitar, bass and drums on a recording session with Sky
Saxon of the Seeds last weekend. He's one odd character,
fer shur!
>From: Runar Sorgaard, wuxxxet.se
>
>I'll soon be getting the Nuggets Box Set on tape, the
>tracklisting looks *very* interesting! I'd like to hear
>some opinions about the artists....what are the highlights
>on the discs....the whole idea of the box is interesting to
>me...are there actual reasons why most of these bands only
>released a couple of singles and then completely
>disappeared? It seems like not many managed to release
>more than one album!
gxxxinemedia.com
glenn_mxxxhlink.net
Guitarist/Vocalist/Songwriter for THE BERKELEY SQUIRES:
http://www.termites.com/BerkeleySquires.html
Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the '50s to the '90s!:
http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm
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