__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0268 June 6, 1999 __________________________________________________________ The Teenager Records Made For The Hit ParadeSubject: flips and rarities Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: john rausch,xxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Jamie wrote about a new Ronettes cd he found: Sounds interesting, what is on the front cover? Also of interest is a new import cd called Phil Spector`s flips and rarities. PS001,is the only thing I can find for the label, I have a feeling it`s from the Marginal label tho as it sounds like their quality output, from satisfactory to downright bad. Sounds to all be dubbed from record. And lots of typos. It is sort of a "best of" from the original Japanese import 3 cd set called Phil Spector masterpieces 1,2 and 3. The cover is the famous cartoon parade from the 2 lp set. Some tracks are really not that rare in my opinion, but are included. All these tracks are supposedly either written by of produced by Phil. tracks: I idolize you-Ike & Tina Black Pearl - Sonny Charles & Checkmates Dream For Sale - Gene Pitney Some Of Your Loving - Johnny Nash World Of Tears - Johnny Nash When You Dance - Billy Storm Spanish Harlem - Santo & Johnny Mr Robin - Spectors 3 Some Of Your Lovin - Emil O Conner I Love You Betty - Terry Day Thats Alright Baby - Gary Crosby Yes I Love You - Paris Sisters Thats What Girls Are For - Timothy Hay Where Can You Be - Tony & Joe Raincoat In The River - Sammy Turner To Know Him Is To Love Him - Lesley Gore Be My Girl Ray Peterson Unchained Melody - Blackwells Oh Why - Teddy Bears Home Of The Brave - Bonnie & Treasures Why Cant A Boy & Girl Just Stay In Love - April Stevens Why Don`t They Let Us Fall In Love - Ronettes The Screw - Crystals Bumbershoot - Phil Harvey (Uncle Phil) Woman In Love - Ronettes He's A Quiet Guy - Darlene Love Here It Comes & Here I Go - Jeri Bo Keno Puddin n Tain - Alleycats Dream For Sale - Joey Paige I'm So Happy (tra la la) - Ducanes John Rausch Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxp://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Perry Botkin... Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Someone asked about Perry Botkin, a very dear friend of mine. We have lunch sometimes together. He lives in the hills behind Studio City, a beautiful glass home there, lovely man. Perry is still very active with recording, but only with his own home-studio, doing some avant-guard stuff. I'm not especially a fan of avant-guard things but his are marvelous creations. There is a link to Perry's site where you can hear some soundbytes of his latest things....just click on the links site. Think you'll love his music. There are many other names from the 60s there too, their sites and all. I've been in communication with Upton, the lead singer of Spiral Staircase who lives in Alabama, and Jewel Akens who lives here in LA, plus many others mostly here or in Nashville. Janis Ian just lately moved back to LA to do her album here, she was going to hire me for it..we'll see. She had a health problem there for awhile but is absolutely fine now, going like the wind. Let's see, who else...yes, just bumped into Maxine Weldon who was here for her live show, something about "Blues Women", and she sat in and sang at Earl Palmer's great opening Jazz Night at RIX in Santa Monica (every Tuesday night a "jazz night jam")....it was terrific. Maxine and I both fell out at the mention of our names.... I've always tho't the greatest of her singing, I remember her well and there we both were - it was so wonderful to see her again. Turns out I played on her first album in 1969, produced by Bobby Shad (good guy, sharp as they come) for Mainstream, with Earl on drums on that one. She wowed the crowd (sung some great jazz) which included Mike Stoller (of Leiber and Stoller) who has lived here in LA for 10 yrs, loves it. Mike and I kibbitzed about the "ol' days, Phil Spector etc.". I spoke w/David Axelrod the other week, good ol' Dave, a little "shy" yet ("this g----m music today is s---, there's no g----m music out worth listening to...ours was the best of times" etc.etc.etc.). We mused over his "Song Of Innocence" lps we cut (again Earl on drums) back then, and the Hampton Hawes "Northern Windows" 70s lp at Fantasy he produced. He's fine, doing OK, but I sense that everyone really misses the times when we were all active and very busy together cutting tons of stuff. Perry misses it too, but stays busy with his music. He runs, and in general takes good care of himself. He's not too much into "the good ol' days" musings all that much but we do discuss a lot of our people, where they are, how they're doing, etc. Bob Alcivar is having a website being done by the same webman I have (see my Message Board: http://www.carolkaye.com/cmb/htm and he sent me his latest CD, the "Symphonic Sounds of the Beach Boys" music, it's great, w/The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (what a great orchestra!), and his arranging on that will make you cry, Brian's music sounds so terrific... The wonderful Bob Alcivar (I worked for him on his first film score, "Butterflies Are Free" and noted then what a fantastic writer he was; he later wrote for Manhattan Transfer too - many other projects, but lately, mostly 1- man synthesizer TV scores etc.) He will be doing some project soon and will let you know. In the meantime, keep in touch with my Links site as his site will go up, sounds and all, within a week or so. Announcements are all on my Message Board too, what people are doing, many current things like that. Yes, I have to agree, the 60s music can't be beat. The sounds are real (no phony paper bag drums, no ringing undefined bass sounds there like now) and the music and singing was sincere, very real. Nowadays you have to hunt for anything with any feeling in it....altho' the musicianship is sometimes better....more refined, but still we played hard and with a lot of feeling which doesn't seem to get on the recordings these days. Yes, it was definitely a lot more fun back then. And we miss it and each other too, but some of us still keep active, and see quite a few of each other. I'm playing jazz these days, currently going to be at the Jazz Bakery this coming Tuesday and Wednesday, June 8th and 9th, with the great jazz sax legend Ray Pizzi and fine studio-jazz guitarist Mitch Holder. They're starting to play our album on the jazz station KLON here and another station in Seattle "Thumbs Up" which is selling very well. If anyone in LA wants to come, the Jazz Bakery - 08 -11PM both on Tuesday and Wed., phone is (310) 271-9039 (no reservations necessary). It is at 3233 Helms Ave., Culver City, just east of the San Diego Freeway between Robertson and La Cienega, and 1/2 block so. of Venice Blvd. This is a nice place, safe, free parking, $15.00 and there's food and drinks available in the lobby (optional, not required at all). Regards, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com (for links) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Turtle Soup Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Stewart Mason, flaxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Good to see the list is getting back into activity again! I just recently purchased the original vinyl of the Turtles' swan song, TURTLE SOUP, which I've been looking for for ages. (I was able to get all the other vinyl reissues Rhino did back in the early 80s, but I never could find this one.) The album sounds even better than it did when I played my sister's scratched-up copy when I was a kid. But I've always wondered something that I've never seen addressed: How did it happen that Ray Davies produced this album? Davies was never very active as an outside producer, as far as I know, and it's not like they were on the same label or anything. Whose idea was it? Does anyone know how the sessions went? While I'll always think BATTLE OF THE BANDS is the Turtles' musical and conceptual masterpiece ("Surfer Dan"! "I'm Chief Kamanawanalea (We're the Royal Macadamia Nuts)"! "Elenore"!), TURTLE SOUP is one of the great soft-pop albums of the era, heads and shoulders above their occasionally brilliant but very spotty earlier albums. Actually, that reminds me of a related question -- two of Rhino's 80s vinyl reissues (The Turtles' HAPPY TOGETHER and the Monkees' MISSING LINKS) feature previously unreleased versions of Goffin and King's wonderful "So Goes Love." Did anyone else record this song and was any version ever released at the time? It seems odd that such a remarkable song would have two great renditions left in the can -- the Turtles version is one of their all-time best tracks -- but on the other hand, maybe the lyrics were considered way too bitter for the time. It *is* an awfully cynical lyric. Stewart NP: Here Comes Everybody -- The Wake ******************************FLAMINGO RECORDS****************************** Stewart Allensworth Mason "Snake handling, but that's more on Dad's Box 40172 side. And it has nothing to do with Albuquerque NM 87196 religion, it's just which idiot will www.rt66.com/~flamingo pick up the poisonous snakes." ************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE************************* --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Del-Fi Records Story Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Paul MacArthur, rtxxx.edu To: spectxxx.geocities.com Here's my latest for you to check out: Del-Fi Records story in the Houston Press. Quotes from Bruce Johnston, Bob Keane and Elliot Easton. Anyone interested in the story of a west coast independent label from the late 50s and early 60s will like it (I hope). http://www.houstonpress.com/archives/1998/052799/music1.html Paul --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Ladybug Transistor Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Dave Mirich, Dmxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com I recently read a review of a new CD by a band called Ladybug Transistor. The reviewer, Michael Roberts of Westword magazine in Denver (a huge Brian Wilson fan) compared the mood of the CD to that of Pet Sounds. Last year, the best thing I heard was the CD "Free Mars" by Lusk (and also the Ya Lo Tengo CD, as well as "Tone Soul Evolution" by the Apples in Stereo). This year, I would have to say that this new CD by Ladybug Transistor is my favorite so far. The strings and horns are played exquisitely by non-studio musicians. The vocals and harmonies are warm, subdued, and gentle. The sound is unique to might years, yet certain songs evoke remembrances of Bacharach, Love, and even Pet Sounds. I'm not overly fond of the first CD from Ladybug Transistor, except for the cover of Dennis Wilson's "Thoughts of You" which is an outstanding alternative rock re-working of this lovely song. However, on their first CD, the band gives the best of the High Llamas a run for its money. I don't often recommend new music, so you should run out and buy this CD and let us know what you think. Dave Mirich --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Minute Masters Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Here's a new subject about 60s music. On another list Mike Devitch wrote: I read in the country music column this morning that the Oak Ridge Boys have released a 60-second single for those odd moments when stations don't have enough time to play a three-minute single. Great idea for them to get back on the radio again and create publicity at the same time. My response was: It's actually not a new idea. Capitol records issued at least two albums in a series called Minute Masters. I have the one by Nat King Cole and there was one done with Buck Owens songs. I remember using these albums when I was in radio, back in the days when you had news every hour and had to segue into it. Many people would use an instrumental and fade it out, but these albums were professionally edited versions of the songs all playing about a minute so if you didn't have time for a full record you could pull one of these and play a cut. Minute Masters-good idea, but I don't know if they issued any more than the two I mentioned. They were issued in the 60s. Paul Urbahns pauluxxxcom --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Come Softly Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, docxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com > BTW--someone told me that the song was called > simply "Come Softly" but that this title was considered > just a bit too suggestive for the times...true? The original title was "Come Softly." This was when the group was a duo, Gretchen and Barbara. Gary was added when he happened to sing "Come Go With Me," and Gretchen thought the two songs went well together. The trio taped a seven-minute version called "Come Softly." When the professional version was recorded, the title was changed for reasons of taste, and Soft Rock was born! Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: singles questions Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Stewart Mason, flaxxx.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com In a further attempt to spur discussion, here's part of a haul of singles I bought out of the 10-cent box at Krazy Kat records here in Albuquerque. I'd really appreciate any information I can get on them. Hamilton Camp -- "Here's To You" / "Leavin' Anyhow" Both songs written by Hamilton Camp and produced and arranged by, of all people, Felix Pappalardi. I think now that I was mistaken, but I was under the impression that Hamilton Camp, before he went full-time into acting, was a folkie. These are definitely pop songs, of a rather Broadway-inspired bent. I could hear Petula Clark covering them on one of her late 60s LPs if that gives you an idea. Are these songs representative of Camp's music career, and if so, which albums are recommended? The McCoys -- "Ko-Ko" / "Don't Worry Mother, Your Son's Heart Is Pure" Okay, I was vaguely familiar with the Feldman/Goldstein/ Gottehrer a-side, but oh my god! This b-side is exactly why I constantly prowl the cheap bins at record stores -- you occasionally find bizarre gems like this. Written by head McCoy Rick Derringer (then still known as Rick Zehringer), "Don't Worry Mother" is a psych-influenced freakout, complete with sitar and lyrics as weird as the title. When was this released? My knowledge of the McCoys is pretty hazy, but I was under the impression that their heyday was 65-66, and this song is awfully forward-looking to be that early. Also, is this available on any CD reissues and did the McCoys release any other lite-psych goodies like this? Rejoice! -- "Golden Gate Park" (mono/stereo promo) On Dunhill, no date (sounds like 1968 to me), written by Tom and Nancy Brown (doesn't ring a bell), produced by the great Steve Barri, arranged by the equally great Jimmie Haskell. Soft pop triangulated somewhere between "San Francisco," "The Rain, the Park and Other Things" and " MacArthur Park." Does anyone know anything more? The Turtles -- "Let Me Be" / "Your Maw Said You Cried" Total geek question: I notice that the b-side's matrix number is W 116 RE-1, which suggests that there's another version of this song that got at least as far as mastering. Anyone have any details on this? (What can I say, I'm one of those people who finds stuff like that endlessly fascinating.) The Vogues -- "You're the One" / "Some Words" The Vogues -- "The Land of Milk and Honey" / "True Lovers" "You're the One" is the Tony Hatch/Petula Clark hit, one of those rare Petula covers that's actually pretty good. (How many terrible covers of "Downtown" have you heard?) Both of these singles are on Pittsburgh's Co & Ce label, so am I correct in assuming they pre-date "Five O'Clock World"? The Vogues are one of those bands I quite like but know next to nothing about. Stewart ******************************FLAMINGO RECORDS****************************** Stewart Allensworth Mason "Snake handling, but that's more on Dad's Box 40172 side. And it has nothing to do with Albuquerque NM 87196 religion, it's just which idiot will www.rt66.com/~flamingo pick up the poisonous snakes." ************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE************************* --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: More Fleetwoods Received: 06/07/99 12:08 am >From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxities.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Doc Rock wrote: >I forwarded the Fleetwoods comments to Gretchen and invited >her to join SpectroPop. Wow! That would be amazing. I "Truly Do" hope she signs on for at least a little while. The Fleetwoods records move me in a very special way. I can listen to and analyze Spector, Brian Wilson, etc., but to me, the Fleetwoods music transends all that intellectual appreciation. For some reason, late at night, I tend to play the Fleetwoods more often than any other artist. I never get tired of their music. The productions are not dazzling, and many of their tracks are covers, yet for some reason I do not fully understand, their music holds great appeal to me. Just listen to their interpretation of Skylark, for example. Thanks, Michael, for inviting her to the list. All the best, Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Nuggets box Sent: 06/05/19 1:23 am Received: 06/05/99 12:15 am >From: Glenn Sadin, gxxxinemedia.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxities.com Many of the bands only released a few singles because many of them recorded for tiny independent labels who either folded quickly, or were self-financed releases. Nearly every track on the box is excellent, but my faves are the Dovers, a mysterious band from Santa Barbara, CA. Domenic Priore has been trying to gather information on the band, and has been in contact with their drummer, but no one so far has been able to locate a photo of them. I have a cassette of all of their super-rare singles (on Miramar and Reprise), and they are definitely overdue for reissue. A great, overlooked band. By the way, I had the interesting experience of playing guitar, bass and drums on a recording session with Sky Saxon of the Seeds last weekend. He's one odd character, fer shur! >From: Runar Sorgaard, wuxxxet.se > >I'll soon be getting the Nuggets Box Set on tape, the >tracklisting looks *very* interesting! I'd like to hear >some opinions about the artists....what are the highlights >on the discs....the whole idea of the box is interesting to >me...are there actual reasons why most of these bands only >released a couple of singles and then completely >disappeared? It seems like not many managed to release >more than one album! gxxxinemedia.com glenn_mxxxhlink.net Guitarist/Vocalist/Songwriter for THE BERKELEY SQUIRES: http://www.termites.com/BerkeleySquires.html Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the '50s to the '90s!: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End