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Volume #0296 July 25, 1999
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A million units in January
Subject: laff of the day
Received: 07/20/99 11:17 pm
From: Big L,xxxxx.snowcrest.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3072/camera2.html
Big L
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Subject: Phantom Songs/Gonna Get Married
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Richard Globman, rglxxxxxomm.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Dave "I used to know this stuff before I got senile" Feldman SED:
>In the early 1960s, Dick Clark played a song called "I
>Want To Get Married" and he identified the artist as Titus
>Turner. I've never been able to find the record. Titus
>Turner sounds very much like Lloyd Price...
>
> "I want to get married
> [you're too young]
> Your name I'll carry"
>
>Any ideas?
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Well, I never heard of Titus Turner either but the opening
lyrics sure sound like the Lloyd "Stagger Lee" Price song to
me.
Stone Cold DickyG
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Subject: RE: Phantom Songs
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Marc Miller, mxxxxx.com
To: 'spectxxxxxities.com', spectxxxxxities.com
Dave -
The song you mentioned IS the Lloyd Price song. I don't
know if Titus Turner recorded it too.
Marc
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Subject: BUYING ORIGINAL 60's GIRL GROUP VINYL
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: CHRIS KING, cxxxxxnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Greetings all. I run a monthly girl group club in London
called DA DOO RON RON and wondered whether any Spectropop
subscribers could help me with a query. I contantly need
to add to my vinyl collection and hoped that you could
advise me as to where I can buy original 60's girl group
records. Either on-line or via mail catalogues, shops et
al.
Many thanks in advance,
Chris King
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Subject: Question To Carol Kaye
Received: 07/25/99 3:29 pm
From: John Hesterman, Zacxxxxxoffice.worldnet.att.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Hi Carol :)
Today, on the Dave Clark Five Message Board, your name
came up as having played on some of the recordings by the
Dave Clark Five. I was surprised by this, because they
were a British band, although I know that studio players
were used by them just as they were by American artists of
the same period. Then it occurred to me, it might be
possible, since the DC5 spent a lot of time in the United
States between 1964 and 1970. So again I wondered....
If you have in fact recorded DC5 material, would you
specify which selections? Thank you in advance for your
response :)
Regards from a HUGE Kaye Fan,
John H.
A San Diego Grape :)
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Subject: Studio Musicians' Hours
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Michael mentioned something about the hours in a studio.
Our record dates were governed by our Musicians Union
(local 47 in Hollywood) and were 3-hours with OT in 1/2
hour increments. It was cheaper to call a break and do two
3-hour sessions than to do one 5 hour session. Our usual
hours were 10-1PM, 02 -5PM, commercial probably from 6PM to
7PM, and last date of the day 8-11PM, every day and night
some weeks.
You may want to check my FAQ page on my website for what
it was like to be a studio musician back in the 60s, a far
cry from what it's like today where musicianship is not as
crucial as it was then. Of the 60's pop/rock groups, only
Brian could write most of his own parts, the rest we had
to do instant arranging on, even for the later-written
charts....they still counted on our group of studio
musicians (known as the "clique" back then, 50-60 of us
out of the pool of successful 350 or so total studio
musicians) for musical ideas to make a record "happen".
That all started subsiding at the start of the 70s. No-one
today can do what we creatively did back then -- we were
all from the trenches of big bands, chordal experiences
(no note-scales back then), ear and experienced successful
musicians before any of us set foot in the studio work
dates.
The TV film and movie score calls usually started either
at 8AM or 9AM, (sometimes at 7:30AM) but still the 3-hour
date was in place there too. I've done over 10,000 studio
calls; it was a business with studio musicians paid about
3-4 times more than the hottest road musicians.
It was not an "art-form" as such, but it certainly was a
heavy art-form to create a hit recording. Sometimes the
hits had not that much to do with the singer, the song,
etc., the background always had to be there.
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: Re: The Sunshine Company
Received: 07/25/99 3:29 pm
From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org
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To Stewart Mason:
The Sunshine Company were a Southern California pop
quintet. Their sound is very similar to the Mamas and the
Papas and/or Spanky and Our Gang. The Sunshine Company
only had one top forty hit, "Back On The Street Again", a
great song that only peaked at #36. The song was top ten
in the Louisville Ky. area. They did have one other chart
single, "Happy". But there was a competing version by the
Blades of Grass. I think the compettion hurt that song's
potential. The Blades of Grass' version went to number 87.
The Sunshine Company's went to #50.
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Subject: Re: The Sunshine Company
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Chuck Limmer, CLxxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
On July 20, Stewart Mason wrote:
>
> ...I found two albums by some group called the Sunshine
> Company... I'd say album #1 is from 1967 and the follow-up,
> SUNSHINE AND SHADOWS, is from late '68... So who did
> I just buy two albums by?
Stewart:
The Sunshine Company recorded three albums on Imperial
from September 1967 through December 1968, all of them in
the same gentle folk-pop vein, with layered harmonies
featuring lead vocalists Mary Nance and Maury Manseau. It
sounds like you got their '67 debut, _Happy Is the
Sunshine Company_ , which includes the group's only Top 40
single, "Back on the Street Again," as well as their
version of "Up, Up and Away," nicely-done covers of the
Beatles' "I Need You" and "Rain," and the SC's first chart
record, " Happy." Very pretty stuff.
I don't know much about _Sunshine and Shadows_, except
that I believe it was their last album release. Worth
looking for, however, is the Sunshine Company's
self-titled second album for Imperial (LP-12368, released
2/68), which contains what was probably their best
recording, the John & Terry Boylan composition "Look, Here
Comes the Sun." TRIVIA NOTE : After the Company ended its
run, bassist Larry Sims and drummer Merle Bregante went on
to record with Loggins & Messina in the early-mid '70s.
Chuck Limmer
n.p. _The Sunshine Company_
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Subject: Symphonic SMiLE
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Big L,xxxxx.snowcrest.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
I'm afraid this is not a joke, friends, as earlier reported:
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/BBBoard/symphsmile.html
Big L
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Subject: The Ribbons
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxxalnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
JimmyB wrote:-
> Anyone know anything about this group called The Ribbons?
> They recorded "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" which I first heard
> covered by the Searchers on their "Needles & Pins" album.
> I have it on a re-release-styled single on ERA, flip-sided
> with Toni Fisher's "The Big Hurt " which I DO know about.
> Anyone?...
Jimmy....
I can't give you a line-up for the Ribbons, but their
recording of "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" (a PJ Proby song) is
the original, and was produced by ex-Teddy Bear Marshall
Leib. Backed with "My Baby Said", it was released on his
own Marsh label, and made #81 in '62. The record was later
reissued on Charger, but for some reason, the group name
was changed to the Sandpapers. The Searchers cover was one
of several......others by Suzie Clark, Jean Martin (UK) and
Simone Jackson (also UK) The Ribbons did another 45 on
Parkway in '64, "Melodie D'Amour"/"They Played A Sad Song",
but there was no Leib involvement on that one.
Ian
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Subject: Ribbons and Bonnets
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: WILLIAM STOS, xxxxxet.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
> Anyone know anything about this group called The Ribbons?
> They recorded "Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya" which I first heard
> covered by the Searchers on their "Needles & Pins" album.
Was this song a hit? I think it's pretty good, but I
didn't know it would be rereleased. Another question. Who
are the Bonnets? Their song Ya Gotta Take A Chance is
dynamite! It's way too short for my liking, but it
certainly packs a punch for the time it plays. This is
faux-Spector at it's best. Very Crystals like. Almost Da
Doo Ron Ronish quality!
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Subject: Western Fair/Pixies
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Tom Waters, shangxxxxx.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Will,
Unfortunately, I'm not in charge of the Western Fair, I
just e-mailed the Pixies to see if they could possible
perform there. The Pixies sent a promotional package to
the fair, so it's up to them, although I think the guest
roster is full for this year. I wish I was in charge of it,
because I would book acts like the Pixies Three right
away. Sadly, most of the acts performing this year are not
at all interesting. Acts like 98 Degrees, Tea Party,
Charley Pride (guess he's good if you are into country)
etc. In past years however, there have been some more
interesting acts like Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits,
Tony Bennett, Bobby Vee (it really bothered me that I
missed that one!) and Lou Christie. Who knows? Maybe the
Western Fair Association will book the Pixies next year.
The fair is held in mid-September but don't waste your
time coming all that way this year, it doesn't sound like
it would be worth it.
Tom
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Subject: Jeffrey Foskett
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: chuck, chxxxxxo.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
> I spent a few wonderful days last week, because I saw
> Brian Wilson tour in Japan.
> All the chorus work was so gorgeous, especially Jeffrey
> Foskett!! "Better than Beach Boys" some people said.
Jeffrey Foskett has 5 albums available in the US and
others in Japan. For those who might not know his name, he
toured with the Beach Boys from 1980-90 and his voice is so
similar to Brian's that he was given lead vocals at some
concerts. Some of the songs on his albums capture the 1965
Beach Boy sound perfectly. You'd think they had uncovered
some new tapes. I did not realize he was touring with
Brian but I think he is a great choice.
Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
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Subject: Re: (Tokyo) Life with Brian
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
>When we saw Brian live we didn't miss Joe at all; my
>friend said "Maybe Brian doesn't need Joe Thomas anymore."
Some might even go as far as to suggest Brian didn't need
Joe Thomas in the first place! ;-)
>All the chorus work was so gorgeous, especially
>Jeffrey Foskett!!
Jeffrey's own records, especially his first album "Thru My
Window", are absolutely great. I am surprised no one
mentioned this during Dave Mirich's recent thread on
current music infuenced heavily by '60's music. In any
event, when I heard Brian had ditched the Paley tapes in
favor of Imagination, I had in mind the "dream team" to work
with Brian, namely Sean O'Hagan, Wondermints and Jeffrey
Foskett. Guess I got two out of three wishes granted...not
bad!
>...I never saw Mike Love. Am I missing something?
Now you are trolling!!!!!!!!! Don't get me started! :-)
[delete long diatribe about dog ears, Transcendental
Meditation, cash registers, car song medleys, woo woo
machines, Monster Mashes, Stars & Stripes, cab rides in
Salt Lake City, Man in the Boat, "When I wrote Good
Vibrations with Brian", etc., etc., etc.]
Brian Wilson rules!!!!!
All the best,
Jamie LePage
<http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/5030>
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Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JOKE.....
Received: 07/25/99 3:28 pm
From: Big L,xxxxx.snowcrest.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Folks, I knew full well this was a hoax, had known it
for weeks. I wanted to expose this in a way that would
embarrass the perpetrators. There are going to be many
people who don't see that JOKE disclaimer down at the
bottom hidden in the links.
One of the perpetrators is spreading this link around
Beach Boys chat rooms as I type this.
I don't find it funny.
Big L
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