________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________ Volume #0323 September 18, 1999 ________________________________________________________________ Devoting time and research to the development of sound recordingSubject: Re: The A&M Dream Team Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Andrew Sandoval, Axxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In a message dated 9/16/99 spectxxxxxities.com writes: > David Bash, Baxxxxxcom wrote: > > >...[Rumors and Wait & See] would be > >perfect for an A&M Records compilation of '60s material, > >something which would be essential for soft pop collectors. > >Who knows, maybe one of those will materialize one day :-) > > The big question in 1999 with respect to such an A&M set > is, under whose department would such a project fall? > Seagram pretty much absorbed A&M into the Uni/Poly group, > didn't they? Is there anyone in their organization that > has a clue? > > Come to think of it, the people most qualified to actually > do such a comp are right here on this list! There are also such wonderful one off singles as The Garden Club "Little Girl Lost & Found" (written by Tadyn Almer), very Boettcher like; The Golden Bough - a brilliant Association type group, and; the London Phogg - kind of a psych girl group sound with strings. Not to mention the countless Merry Go Round and Boyce and Hart outtakes (each has at least 10 unheard unissued cuts). Nevertheless, all of those tapes have been cleared off the A&M lot and put in deep storage by Universal. Unless a company is willing to offer them at least a 10,000 unit advance (in the US), we are unlikely to see any action from these tunes. An A&M compilation could maybe sell about 5,000 units on a good day (with international sales to boot). This idea will be a long time coming from Universal in my opinion. Andrew Sandoval P.S. "Blow You A Kiss In The Wind" is owned by Boyce & Hart. It is not an A&M single. It was issued after they left the label. For the record, they appeared on I Dream of Jeannie (singing Girl I'm Out To Get You and Out And About from Test Patterns), The Flying Nun (performing two unissued cover tunes) and Bewitched ("Blow You A Kiss"). --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: A&M, T-Bones, Addams Family Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com John Rausch, to answer your questions about T-Bones and Addams Family -- yes the same group (almost) of studio musicians, yes I played on the them both, bass. The T-Bones were really ONLY studio musicians and then they had to get a "group" together to "go on the road" to "be that group" (studio musicians never traveled (well, a couple did I guess) as it 1. doesn't pay well, 02 . you lose your "place" in the studio work line-up if you do, 03 . no-one wanted to be away from their families at 1/4 (or less) the pay of studio work. Funny thing, about the T-Bones and other groups, a few fans in Japan told me in emails recently "we knew in the 60s that what we saw on-stage was NOT that group we heard on the records". Very few American kids discerned that about any of the groups they "saw"....they totally believed that who they saw were indeed the musicians on the records....it was our group of hit-making studio musicians who did all the 60s rock-pop-funk groups' recordings, and sometimes it's hard for people in the USA to know that, as they heard with their "eyes" I think - TV-raised young people. So, like many of the so-called groups, the T-Bones, Markettes, Hondells and other surf-rock groups were formed *after* the recordings started to make it on the charts etc. I recorded for Herb Alpert who formed A&M after he left Bumps Blackwell and all at Keen Records (where I first met Herb late 50s and even played a bar mitzvah with him in a "jazz" band about 1958.....more on that later). He was a very nice aware person, sort of upper middle-class I think. He played some nice trumpet, nothing too special. That's mostly Ollie Mitchell who did the Herb Alpert solos on recordings. The "vibe", Jamie, was always very NICE...Herb Alpert was just terrific in producing, had great ideas, and treated the musicians with great respect, was great to work for. His forte was in producing, and creating music styles I tho't. A&M later bought the former Chaplin studios, had engineer Larry Levine update and design the two big studios and rooms, and that became "A&M Records" but Herb exclusively recorded at Gold Star Records for his first batch of big hit in the 60s. Then we all recorded at A&M fine studios and the dates were always very pleasant. Have a nice weekend everyone, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ http://www.experience.org --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: the A&M Team Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Michael Godin, mxxxxxo.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi everyone on the list, I joined the A&M Team in 1975 and became Vice-President of A&R for A&M Canada. I discovered and signed Bryan Adams to the label. I'm a lifelong music collector and host of an oldies show on both the Internet and short-wave radio, Treasure Island Oldies Show, well into its 3rd year. I think that it would take a former A&R staffer to get in contact with someone who is in charge of master tape library to compile a suggested CD release of rare A&M sides like The Parade, Shango, Abaco Dream, Boyce & Hart, etc. They would probably be more knowledgeable about the relevancy of the back catalogue for potential re-release than a twenty-something staffer at Universal who would not be familiar with that material. Also need to bear in mind that some of the A&M catalogue was licensed from Island Records in the UK before they had their own presence as a label in the US and Canada. However now that all of that is owned by Universal, it would not be too difficult to have a cross-label series of re-issues. Anyway, just a thought. Hope you can find the time to have a listen to Treasure Island Oldies Show, either archived and available 24/7 or live Sundays from 6 to 10 p.m. Pacific time at http://www.treasureislandoldies.com Thanks, and glad to be part of this list! Michael Godin mxxxxxo.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: EASY PHIL Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Warren Cosford, xxxxx.net To: Spectropop, Spectxxxxxities.com >Phil also made a cameo appearance in a major motion >picture that many people associate with the 60's, Easy >Rider. He was good friends at the time with actor Dennis >Hopper, who has a featured role in the film. I'm sure I read somewhere that Hopper said he put Phil in the film to "literally" "shut him up for once".. Phil's role was "non speaking" Phil appears at the very beginning of the movie, playing the role of a drug dealer. He is seated in the back seat of a car, and the chauffeur is played by Phil's chauffeur in real life. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Joey Stec, welcome to the soft world redux Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com In a message dated 9/16/99 2:24:11 PM, you wrote: >By way of introduction, I was in the Millennium, >Sagittarius, Blues Magoos, etc. Hey Joey! Welcome to the soft world redux. Did you record "Five O'clock In The Morning" with Millennium? I love that song. And when you say etc. at the end of the bands you were in, what or for whom does etc. stand?... Cheers backatcha, Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM ,. Cambridge at MIT, 88.1 on Tuesdays from 6-8am. Download Real Audio and hear us in Real Time at wmbr.mit.edu --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Joey, Welcome!!! Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Big L,xxxxx.snowcrest.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com >By way of introduction, I was in the Millennium, >Sagittarius, Blues Magoos, etc. Welcome!!! To this day, "We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet" is one of my favorite songs. That thing just rocks, and typifies January 1967 for me in a way that no other song does. Len --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: records out of Cincy Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com I just read David's review and I'm also interested in this CD. Is there any Girl Group material on this CD? I just picked up "Where the Girls Are... Volume 2" on Ace. There are two good tracks by a Cincinnati Girl Group called The Teardrops ("You Wont Be There" and "A Change Of Heart" which sounds like a early take of "You Wont.."). The notes state that the records were originally released on Saxony records out of Cincy and later released by Musicor. The production on both tracks is "Kitchen Sink on a Budget" and I'm wondering if this Clem Comstock produced this group. BTW: This CD is mostly R&B material...not Pop, even though there are some catchy songs here and there, some of the songs deserved not to be hits or should have stayed "in the can"... I guess when it comes to 60's female R&B I like mine with a Motown (Marvellettes/Vandellas/Supremes) flavor. I've gotten the idea that Ace and Sequel are having trouble selling girl group comps in the UK and are adding more hardcore R&B tracks on these CD's to appeal to the "Northern Soul" crowd! Billy G. Spradlin 29 Rim Road Kilgore, Texas 75662 Email: bgsprxxxxxhlink.net Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: The Phil Spector Of Cincinnati Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: David Bash, Baxxxxxcom To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com > At www.purepop.com, I read about the most IN-teresting > reissue I've heard of in a long time: "Where Has the Music > Gone? The Lost Recordings of Clem Comstock" These appear to > be lost gems from the mid sixties, recorded in the > Cincinnati area and produced by the euphoniously-named > Clem Comstock. But what REALLY got my interest was that Mr. > Comstock was supposedly known as "The Phil Spector of > Cincinnati." Honest? Really? Just what is meant by such a > moniker? That he was an egomaniacal s.o.b. who ripped off > his artists, or that he created immense sonic panoramas > with lots of sleigh bells and castanets? I believe it was > our own David Bash who wrote the [favorable] review, and I > wonder if he might be coaxed into adding a few words about > what these recordings sound like. Maybe some name-checks > ("song x sounds a lot like Peanut's Home of the Brave," > etc.) to help a dolt like me understand what I'd be getting > into? I'd appreciate it a lawt. > > jack "the phil spector of ton def" madani Hi Ton Def, Thank you very much for reading my review! I have to tell you though, so that you and other Spector fans don't get too excited, that the Clem Comstock CD is a total hoax perpetrated by contemporary artist Roger Klug, who, along with his wife, decided it would be a lot of fun to see if he could write songs authentic enough to fool people into thinking they were from the '60s. Benevolent soul that he is, he never intended to take the joke very far, and would have been ready to admit to anyone that he was just having fun. At any rate, the songs are very good and are very well executed '60s parodies. There are subtle hints throughout the disc that the songs, in fact, were written today. For example, one of the songs is entitled "Sport Utility Vehicle". As my good friend and Spectropop member Jeff Glenn points out, the phrase "sport utility vehicle" wasn't in use in the '60s. Plus, some of the artists names are a bit too campy to have been real (e.g. Gary Cilantro, Jerry Cacicatore, The United Federation of Brotherhood and Sisterhood). The recordings, when you listen to them closely, don't really sound like they're from the '60s, as they're a bit too clean and advanced. Nevertheless, he does get it pretty close. In writing my review, I decided to play along with the gag and act ignorant (some might say I'm not acting), although I did drop a few "in joke" lines that might have given the truth away, for example: 1. "you'll be struck by Comstock's prescience, as it will seem like he was somehow able to get a glimpse into the future and glean some of its techniques". 2. "Comstock's acumen in arrangement and his facility with the knobs propel the performances to anachronistic proportions" and 3. "The whereabouts of Clem Comstock are unknown at the present time, but if there is such a phenomenon as the transmigration of souls, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the soul of Comstock exists in some free thinking, melody craving producer of today" I guess even these are a bit too subtle for someone who wasn't in on the joke. The bottom line is, while there may have never been a Clem Comstock, and therefore no "Phil Spector Of Cincinnati", the "Where Has All The Music Gone?: The Lost Recordings Of Clem Comstock" is a wonderful parody and a disc that 60s fans will love. -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: question for Joe Foster Received: 09/18/99 3:43 am From: Randolf Kajagoogoo, wuxxxxxet.se To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Joe Foster, this question is completely off-topic, so you should maybe reply in private to me, but...is it Rev-Ola or Creation which will release the forthcoming My Bloody Valentine 'best of' CD with previously unreleased "Loveless" tracks? It was quite the buzz on the MBV-list a while back. I hope you don't take eight years to release this compilation, though :-) Tobias --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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