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Volume #0331 October 13, 1999
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Positively the Most
Subject: "Calif. Girls"
Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm
From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
>Speaking of many takes, Carol Kaye, did you play on
>"California Girls"? I have a *take 44* (yes, 44!) on tape.
>Do you know if that was the final one or if Brian
>continued with even more takes?
I don't remember it being that many takes but maybe it was,
Brian did work us long on 1 tune for 3 hours. I do
remember the 30-some takes with Phil Spector tho'.
I know Brian was very happy with the way I played bass on
"California Girls" (I played this lick on the VH-1
documentary that Alan Boyd produced about the Beach Boys -
along with the "Good Vibrations" lick, explaining how they
were really a jazz feel).
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: (Re) Paris Sisters
Received: 10/11/99 1:13 am
From: J. H. Ket, hxxxxxunet.nl
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Jamie LePage wrote:
>>Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing
>>THE Glass House" on Unifilms?
>
>Never heard this particular Paris Sisters record, which is
>actually called 'The Paris Sisters sing from "The Glass
>House"'. Anyone heard this?
Here's some information about the Paris Sisters sing from the "Glass
House". (unifilms records #505)
Arranger: M. Curb
Engineers: Doc Seigal & Richie Podler
Produced bij: G.P. IV
Released (probably begin) 66
side 1
1. Can't help falling in love (Weiss/Creatore/Peretti)
2. Together (P. Paris)
3. The best part of it is (P. Paris)
4. You went your way (P. Paris)
5. Your own Glass House (P. Paris)
side 2
6. Yesterday (Lennon/McCartney)
7. How can you know my love (P. Paris)
8. Help me (M. Curb)
9. Our own way (P. Paris)
10 There's so much about my baby that I love (Kolber/Keller)
Though the album "ansich" is nothing special, it is very
much the Paris Sisters and stand good between "Everything
under the sun" and "Priscilla sings Billy". The production
is more sober, but the singing is as siruppy and whispering
as ever. Three of the songs (3, 05 & 9) Priscilla wrote for
the televion serie "The Glass House". Confirming the cover
text The Glass House was convieved and created as a kind of
testament to that great majority of American youth who are
courageously living up to the highest standards of
learning, responsibility and concern in the their daily
lives. I wonder wether they did actually sing in this
series. ( to my knowledge the serie was never broadcast on
dutch tv.). The cover is designed in, and the sisters are
dressed in pink and green (bubblegum) colours and are
sitting on a camera lorry in a tv/movie studio. Song 10 is
a kind of remake of "I love how you love me". I like the
album.
Friendly greetings
Hans Ket
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Subject: Carol & Gold Star
Received: 10/12/99 8:37 am
From: john rausch,xxxxx.net
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Hi Carol,
Thanks for the great stories and insight on the Spector
Gold Star days.
I could read that stuff all night. What a wonderful moment
in history it must have been (although no one probably
thought so at the time - "just another session").
But you said everyone knew that the Righteous Bros. song
was going to be a hit. Were there any other recording
dates when you knew what you were playing on was going to
be a smash hit?...or how about one that you DID think was
going to be big and ended up being a dud?
John Rausch
Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sxxxxxp://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/
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Subject: Diane Renay
Received: 10/12/99 8:37 am
From: john rausch,xxxxx.net
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for some stories behind the pics I put up from People
mag.
Just wondering tho...When with the Supremes, was Diane
Ross as hard to get along with as history makes her out to
be? No need to dish any dirt, just thought I`d ask someone
from a first hand experience.
Also,where can one find a copy of the Navy Blue (dance
version) you did in `87?
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Subject: Joey Stec & Lee Mallory..
Received: 10/13/99 2:48 am
From: Joe Foster, joe.fxxxxxtion.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Hi to everyone...Joey Stec & Lee Mallory, late of the
Millennium & Sagittarius, will be playing an acoustic show
at the Lost & Found, Grand St. North Beach San Francisco on
october 28th....they are performing some killer versions of
Millennium classics in their set....well worth going to see
I would say! Best regards to you all....Joe Foster
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Subject: Rare Phil
Received: 10/13/99 2:48 am
From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxxalnet.co.uk
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Francesc Sole wrote:
>CHICO'S GIRL
>take 1
>take 2- vocal take stereo
>take 2- vocal take mono
Hi Francesc,
What a mouth-watering track list! But the revelation for
me was that there exists a Spector-produced verson of "
Chico's Girl"! Can you tell us if it's by the Ronettes,
Crystals or Darlene??
Ian
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Subject: Re: Rare Phil
Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm
From: Francesc Sole, xxxxx.es
To: Spectropop, spectxxxxxities.com
Friends,
Thanks to everybody for the interest about my "Rare Phil"
post. About River Deep Mountain High, I'm sorry, this was
a mismatch. The takes on the tape are 1 to 18. And Phil is
instructing Earl, not Carol about the rhythm.
>Is this the same song that "The Girls" released on Capitol
>in 65-66, produced by Steve Douglas?
Oops, I don't have that one, but I tried to discern the
lyrics. Something like this:
Chico has a jacket,
that's his tiger on the back.
His neighborhood's a jungle
so he travels with the pack.
When folks say he's bad
like they always do
I get so mad 'cause I know it really ain't true.
Hope this helps.
Francesc
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Subject: Re: Rare Phil / "Snowbug" (new High Llamas album)
Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm
From: Larry Koch, xxxxxrlog.com
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Tobias:
>On another, but sort of related note, I bought a Walker
>Brothers compilation today titled "After The Lights Go Out".
>All great Spector-ish stuff of course, although Scott
>Walker's theatrical voice gets on my nerves after too many
>songs in a row. It's too goth :)
^^^^^
Except that in those days it was called existential angst :)
Who produced that stuff - was it Wally Stott?
[Snowbug]
>It is definitely
>a High Llamas record - a cross between "Hawaii" and "Santa
>Barbara" maybe, but sounding quite a lot like Milton
>Nascimento's "Courage" (thank you, Larry :)).
Thanks. Speaking of Bituca (Milton's nickname to his
friends, meaning something like "Stumpy" (he's rather
short)), has there ever been any discussion of Creed
Taylor on this list?
Larry
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Subject: Jan Berry in the studio
Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm
From: Michael B Kelly, docxxxxx.com
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Carol,
Can you talk about Jan Berry in the studio? And Dean?
For example, Bones Howe told me that Jan tried
overdubbingn Hal on drums, but couldn't get the effect he
wanted. So he had Hal and Earl both on sessions. Then Hal
told me that he and Earl would work out the drum part,
then write it out and play simultaneously. "Drag City" is
a prime example I was given.
Was Jan like Brian, or more like Phil?
Thanks.
Doc
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Subject: shut down Phil
Received: 10/11/99 11:11 pm
From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org
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To Carol Kaye:
Concerning Phil Spector: I read somewheres that in 1965 the Los
Angeles musicians union shut down Phil's operation for violating
union rules. With Phil's penchant for controversy, I wouldn't be
surprised.
By the way fantastic post on Phil's echo overkill.
Michael G. Marvin
WASE radio
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Subject: Went to a record fair...
Received: 10/11/99 1:13 am
From: Pacific Ocean Bluto, wuxxxxxet.se
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
...and bought some LPs you might or might not find interesting.
*Carpenters - Now & Then (1973)
I don't know what to think of this record. Some of the
more typical Carpenters songs are fantastic, but Side 2...
it's put together as a *really* embarrassing phone-in
radio show, and the arrangements of a few songs (guitar
solos on a Carpenters record?!?!?!?!) sound just horrible.
I really love the "Close To You" LP, but they seem to have
lost it majorly after its release..."Don't Cry For Me
Argentina" off 1977's "Passage" comes to mind, *shuddering
with horror*...
*William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra -
Aaron Copland's "Billy The Kid" and "Appalachian Spring"
Not really this listy, but I guess Copland influenced
people like Van Dyke Parks quite a lot...it's got the two
pieces on one side each of the LP. Both are very very good.
I wouldn't really call it "classical", it's more like
American, *very* American, symphonic music in the light
idiom. (if that makes sense: "light music" is a term that
is used in classical and art music to describe pieces that
have more in common with 'popular music' than art, while
still retaining the 'classical' or 'symphonic' feel or
structure) Randy Newman's first album sounds quite a lot
like Copland, btw. The orchestral stuff, that is.
*Beach Boys - Surfin' Safari (1962)
*Beach Boys - Surfin' USA (1963)
Both are in mint condition, surprisingly. I had never
heard them before, so I was really excited at first. I
don't know...all the actual Beach Boys surf songs, with
vocals and music by Brian, are great, but the countless
and endless instrumental "surf jams" sound hopefully dated
, not mention silly, weak, and embarrassing! But "The
Lonely Sea" is still one of Brian's best songs ever, and
that's a single reason for buying "Surfin' USA".
*Burt Bacharach - In Concert (1974)
Has anyone seen Bacharach live? This LP sounds pretty much
the same as his own studio LPs, but with crowd noise:
pretty radical reworkings of all the hits. The performance
is of course faultless, but it would probably sound better
if you were there and watched Burt at the grand piano,
conducting the large orchestra. Incidentally, I have a
bootleg from a show he did in Gainsville, Florida last
year, and it is much more interesting. Burt totally
deconstructed the songs and put them together in a very
strange way, that isn't so far away from the Beach Boys' "
Smile". Bizarre medleys with abrupt stop-start moments...
plus a gorgeous version of "That's What Friends Are For".
*Fifth Dimension - Earthbound (1975)
*Fifth Dimension - Individually & Collectively (1972)
I hadn't heard of "Earthbound" before, which is
surprisingly produced by Jimmy Webb. In 1975! Webb's own
songs are great, but most of the album isn't very good at
all. Bland mid-seventies funk, yuck. It's like they tried
really hard sounding 'black' (as they were accused of
sounding "too white"), but there's not much soul in the
voices and music. The vocals lack the arrangements of Bob
Alcivar or Webb himself. *Great* synthesizer sounds though,
from moogs and ARPs I guess.
"Individually..." is better, but not much. The compilers
of the 2-CD 5D set did a good job with selecting the few
good songs of the album, namely "Last Night I Didn't Get
To Sleep At All" and "If I Could Reach You". It's the
material which isn't as good as on the previous records,
but the performance sounds quite uninspired too.
*Sunshine Company - Happy Is
This one looked really interesting but sounds, uh, not
really interesting :). It's got covers of the Beatles'
"Rain", Curt Boetcher's "I Just Want To Be Your Friend",
Webb's "Up Up And Away", Roger Nichols' "Just Beyond Your
Smile" and more. Joey Stec, was this band friends with you
and Boettcher? Do you know why they decided to cover a
Millennium song?
My fingers ache.
T.
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