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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 10/21/99

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       Volume #0335                        October 21, 1999   
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                   super fi sound - in stereo
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Re: Rev-Ola Reissues
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Baxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    > Kingsley wrote...
    > Why don't fellow Spectropoppers put up suggestions for
    > other possible Revola projects that we could get our teeth
    > into. Please bear in mind that single albums are difficult.
    > Two plus possibly maketh an album...
    
    Hi Everyone,
    
    Wow, there are so many great soft pop albums to choose
    >from, but a few pairings that come to mind would be:
    
    1. Colours-Colours (Dot, 1968) and Without Earth-The Moon
    (Imperial, 1968): Two excellent albums that feature the
    songwriting talents of Dalton-Montgomery.  I've never
    heard an album quite like Colours debut.  It's got strong
    Beatlesque leanings without ever ripping them off,
    coupled with some very quirky American psychedelic
    infusions.  Plus, their song "Bad Day At Black Rock, Baby"
    has some of the funniest lyrics I've ever heard!  The
    Moon is the band that at one time had among its
    membership David Marks, although I don't believe he was
    on Without Earth.
    
    2. October Country-October Country (Epic, 1967) and The
    
    Smoke-The Smoke (Sidewalk, 1968): Both of these bands
    were the brainchild of Michael Lloyd, fresh from his
    stint with The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. 
    October Country is soft pop with a bit of a twist, while
    The Smoke is similar but has a much stronger psychedelic
    element.  Sundazed had talked with Michael Lloyd about
    releasing The Smoke album on CD, but apparently this
    isn't going to happen.
    
    3. How about a nice pairing of the two Cyrkle albums, Red
    Rubber Ball and Neon?  I'm really surprised Sundazed or
    Collectables hasn't jumped on this.  You've got a two top
    20 hits and several other chart single between the two
    albums, not to mention scads of non album a's and b's,
    and of course the Brian Epstein association.
    
    4. The same kind of pairing for the two New Colony Six
    albums on Mercury, Revelations and Attacking The Straw
    Man.  Yes, these already do exist on CD, but only as a
    Japanese release (out of print, I'm sure) that is
    identified as a "Best Of New Colony Six", meaning that it
    was probably overlooked by people who figured they
    already had all of those tracks on Rhino's "Colonized"
    collections.  The Revelations album is particularly
    excellent, and contains the New Colony Six biggest hits,
    "Things I'd Like To Say," and "I Will Always Think About
    You".  Should be an excellent  seller!
    
    5. So Good-Don and The Goodtimes (Epic, 1967) and
    Elephant Candy-The Fun and Games (UNI, 1969): I know
    someone mentioned the Fun and Games album already, but it
    would be a great pairing with this wonderful album by a
    group who made a 180 degree turn from their Northwest
    garage sound when they added Buzz Overman and Geoff
    Hawkes, and went completely soft pop!  Songs like "Music
    Box," "And It's So Good,"I Could Never Be," "My Color
    Song," and "I Could Be So Good To You" are bright, bouncy,
    and beautiful!  The Fun and Games is a bit harder edged
    (everything being relative, of course) but the albums
    both have a bubbly, positive vibe that I think would work
    well together.
    
    Man, there are so many other possible pairings, but I
    don't want to tax either Revola or Spectropop with too
    much more long windedness.
    
    On a related note, isn't it amazing how forcefully the
    abrupt social changes of the late 60s were reflected in
    pop music?  There were so many "soft pop" bands who
    released wonderful albums in 1968, but if their next
    album came out in 1969, you can bet it was heavy psych,
    and favored riffs and extended solos over melody.  As an
    example, the second albums by Colours and Grapefruit are
    pretty wretched.  As Dennis Wilson said "It must have
    been the drugs".
    
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David Bash
    
    
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    Subject:     River Deep
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Carol Kaye 
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    > Tina Turner thought that "River Deep, Mountain High" was
    > such a strange song, she wouldn't even sing it to Ike
    > when he asked her how it sounded.  In another reference,
    > it claimed Phil played the song on his guitar and sang to
    > Tina in her home, and she immediately loved it.  Anybody
    > have some more reliable info on this topic?
    
    That's a question I can't answer but can shed a little
    light as to why Tina may have said that about that song. 
    The intervals are based on an unusual chordal progression,
    sorry I can't remember it exactly but think it's a
    dominant scale run.  It is kind of strange the way the
    tune goes, different.  
    
    Carol Kaye 
    http://www.carolkaye.com
    http://www.experience.org
    
    PS.  BTW, am resuming work on my book about studio work
    (mainly, but covers the early days as a live combo and
    big-band player too), thanks for your comments everyone,
    and will keep you posted.
    
    
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    Subject:     comic strip
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Summer Petersen 
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    There's a funny cartoon in the most recent issue of
    Scoot! Quarterly.  It's done Scooby-Doo style and
    features Brian Wilson, Phil Spector, and Wilson's
    freaky dad.  Email me if you want and I'll try to find
    a scanner and send it to you.
    
    
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    Subject:     This Could be The Night
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Pauluxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    > Also, anyone heard of the Modern Folk Quartet ever getting
    > back together for anything, even one-time shows? Their one
    > song Phil did is one of my all time favs. Thanks.  -Summer
    
    Summer,
    
    Don't know anything about the MFQ getting back together,
    but I always wished the Beach Boys would record "This
    Could Be The Night."  I feel it could be a hit today if
    done in the Phil Spector style of the original. I know
    Brian Wilson did a solo version but it pales in
    comparison with MFQ.
    
    Paul Urbahns
    pauluxxxxxcom
    
    
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    Subject:     Disk-O-Tec Holiday
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Tom Waters 
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    I am interested in info. pertaining to the 1966 movie
    Disk-O-Tec Holiday (aka Discotheque Holiday).  I know that
    the film features singers such as Peter and Gordon, Freddy
    Cannon and Millie Small, but I need to have some more
    details.  Specifically, has anyone seen this movie, what
    songs are featured and what other performers are featured
    besides the ones I have mentioned?  Thanks in advance.
         Tom
    
    
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    Subject:     guitar solos
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am99
    >From:        xxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    > I like the discipline of sixties records by people like
    > Phil Spector, the idea that *the song* is the most
    > important thing which leaves - or should not leave - no
    > room for 'showing off your licks'. I am from the
    > post-post-post punk generation which just can't stand
    > guitar solos. It's pure self-indulgence in 9 out of 10
    > cases, and it's just such a cliche to have a guitar solo,
    > *always* after the second chorus, btw... :)
    
    So you don't dig Billy Strange's solo after the second
    chorus of Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans' "Zip-a-Dee
    Doo-Dah," eh? Maybe Phil didn't *always* put a guitar solo
    in at that spot on the record, but he may well have
    pioneered doing it (1962), i.e. the very cliche you say
    your generation hates.
    
    Frank (I like the Beatles & Klaatu) Youngwerth     
    
    
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    Subject:     Non-Motown Carol Kaye recordings in her "Motown" style
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Joseph Scott 
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    Hello everybody, I'm new to Spectropop and it's a pleasure
    to be among like-minded folks. Regarding all those Motown
    credits that Carol Kaye accurately claims, I'd like to
    recommend a few non-Motown recordings on which she played
    bass in that same funky style with improvisation that we
    all know so well from the Motown hits (which of course was
    a contrast to her usual approach to, e.g., the Beach
    Boys--she was flexible). Most of these albums have been
    issued on CD somewhere in the world; www.gemm.com is good
    for checking availability.
    
    Honeysuckle Breeze by Tom Scott and the California
    Dreamers--check out "Baby, I Love You," for example
    
    Wind, Sky, and Diamonds by Gabor Szabo and the California
    Dreamers--check out "Twelve-Thirty"
    
    Songs Of Innocence by David Axelrod (several great tracks
    >from this soul LP are on the new Axelrod compilation CD
    1968 To 1970 An Anthology)
    
    Let It Be by Bud Shank and the Bob Alcivar Singers
    
    Better Days by Joe Pass
    
    There are some writers out there who like to attribute to
    James Jamerson not only Jamerson's massive body of great
    Motown work, but a number of Carol Kaye's finest Motown
    performances as well. Part of the problem is that most
    fans don't realize how many Motown instrumental backing
    tracks (and, sometimes, vocal overdubs) were recorded in
    Los Angeles. The section on Motown in Mark Cunningham's
    superb book Good Vibrations: A History Of Record
    Production, which is now in its second edition, does an
    excellent job of getting at the truth.
    
    Best to everyone,
    
    Joseph Scott
    
    
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    Subject:     "Twangin' Up A Storm"
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am99
    >From:        "WASE RADIO" xxxxxt.org>
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    To Carol Kaye:
    
            Recently when I was going through some old
    albums,.I found an old Duane Eddy album entitled "Twangin'
    Up A Storm" on RCA (LSP 2700-released approximately April
    1963). I wondered if you played bass on those sessions
    held at RCA studios in Hollywood.  This is a great rock
    and roll party album!  Any memories on this? Thanks.
    
                                         Michael G. Marvin
                                          WASE radio
    
    
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    Subject:     robotic synthesized
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am99
    >From:        "WASE RADIO" xxxxxt.org>
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    I have to agree with Glen Sadin and anyone else who thinks
    along this line. This robotic synthesized is about as
    musically interesting as watching grass grow. I have been
    in radio for about 25 years, and kept up on all the music
    trends from the late 70s and 80s. Some of the music from
    those time periods were ok at best, and at worst just
    plain boring. But when the 90s brought on the "sturm and
    drang" of alternative and/or rap, i got more turned off. 
    All I listen to is now is mainly oldies, since I work at
    such a station plus I collect all this great music on
    compact disc. I occasionally listen to music, and the only
    contemporary artist I buy with any regularity is Enya. I
    would thank anyone who has the foresight to see to it that
    the music from the 50s through the 70s would  stay
    available. If there are any Spectropoppers who likes the
    music from the 80s and/or 90s,I say more power to you.  I
    thank the hundreds of artists and the thousands of session
    musicians (that includes you, Carol Kaye) who have made
    all these classic hits possible, and that they are here to
    stay.
    
                                      Michael G. Marvin
                                       WASE radio
    
    
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    Subject:     MFQ & the Rose Garden
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am Oct 1999
    >From:        Glenn Sadin & Mariko Kusumoto 
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    Stewart asks...
    
    >Whatever happened to the Modern Folk Quartet, anyway,
    >other than Chip Douglas briefly joining the Turtles and
    >then producing my two favorite Monkees albums?
    
    Henry "Tad" Diltz is a well-respected rock photographer,
    and was the Monkees' main shutter bug in the '60s.
    
    &&&&&&&&&&&&
    
    Lately I've been digging on a Los Angeles band called the
    Rose Garden, who had a hit with "Last Plane to London" in
    1968. Fans of flowery folk-pop would probably really enjoy
    their stuff. Their self-titled LP (on Atco) is significant
    for its inclusion of two superb Gene Clark compositions
    that were never released elsewhere. A number of the songs
    on the LP were co-written by Pat Vegas, who was heavily
    involved in the go-go club scene on the Sunset Strip
    during the '60s. In addition to the LP, I also have a
    non-LP 45 by the Rose Garden, "If My World Falls Through"
    b/w "Here's Today" which is excellent.
    
    Does anyone know anything about this band?
    
    Glenn
    
    
    Glenn Sadin
    
    Read about Japanese pop from the '50s & '60s!
    NIHON NO POPS: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm
    
    
    
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    Subject:     Brothers
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am
    >From:        Barry Taylor, exxxxxrport.net
    
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    Hi,
    I recently came across a single by a group called Brothers
    (White Whale 255). It had a Warren Zevon song on one side 
    ("The Girl's Alright") and a Randy Newman song produced by 
    Ted Glasser ("Love Story") on the other. It appeared to be
    middle 1960s. Does anyone know who these Brothers are? 
    
    Thanks.
    Barry
    
    
    
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    Subject:     Marvin and Lesley
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am
    >From:        Greg Matecko, moxxxxxrama.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    Oops, I made a boo-boo! Marvin is the principal conductor 
    of the Pittsburgh Pops, not the Symphony! Come to think of
    it, there's a show coming up called "There's Something 
    About Marvin" which showcases his "greatest hits." Somehow, 
    I don't think they're talking about either "Rainbows" or
    "California Nights". I should go see the show anyway, and 
    yell out the songs...
    
    I'm not sure if the Four King Cousins' song is the same 
    "California Nights," but imagine this: Lesley Gore 
    world-premiered the song on the "Batman" television show, 
    where she guested as one of Catwoman's kittens! Holy smash
    hit, Batman!
    
    Greg Matecko
    
    
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    Subject:     Pat Lundy/The Shondells
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am
    >From:        Matthew Kaplan, Twxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    I was wondering if anyone could offer insights into two 
    singles that I recently picked up. 
    
    The first is Pat Lundy's 'IT'S RANIN' OUTSIDE' b/w HAL'S 
    BELLES' (Leopard Records 5009) Both sides of the single 
    were written by Al Kooper, with the a-side being one of 
    the top five soul tracks in my collection, the b-side is 
    an instrumental. I think that Pat Lundy also recorded 
    under the name Pat Lundi and did Broadway musicals but I'm
    not sure. Does anyone know anything about the artist or the
    year this came out. 
    
    The second single is 'I GOTTA TELL IT' b/w 'WONDERFUL ONE' 
    by The Shondells (King Records 5656) This is obviously not
    the Tommy James group (or else I wouldn't be asking about 
    it) but rather a girl group featuring two singers by the 
    names of Novella Simmons and Shirley Brooks. Who can tell 
    me something about the group. Come on people, don't let me
    down.
    
    Matthew Kaplan
    
    
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    Subject:     Reissue Idea: The Love Generation
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am
    >From:        Ponak, David, david.xxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    Here's an idea for the folks at Rev-ola. How about a CD 
    with both of the Love Generation albums? They're both on 
    Imperial, so they're controlled by EMI (Same as Eternity's
    Children). I'd love to hear those amazing Bahler Brothers 
    vocal harmonies remastered.
    
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    Subject:     Rev-Ola vs Bootlegs
    Received:    10/20/99 9:53 am
    >From:        Todd Mc, Toxxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    
    >  re: Eternity's Children... Todd, I'm not suprised the Rev-ola 
    >  release is five bucks more, the other one is a BOOTLEG!...
    >  The Rev-Ola one is 25 tracks from the original tapes which
    >  I had the mighty Bill Inglot search under floorboards for, 
    >  God bless him, with extensive notes and rare photos...what
    >  with paying EMI and several publishers, it's amazing there 
    >  is only $5 difference...I do have enough respect for soft 
    >  pop artists to pay them royalties! Sorry, not getting at 
    >  you, I've had to deal before with a similar question over 
    >  prices, ironically I was in the midst of arranging legal 
    >  action on behalf of Curt Boettcher's estate against the 
    >  issuer of the 'cheaper' edition....ie the bootleg....rest 
    >  assured the Sunshine Co. disc is well worth buying, I 
    >  don't know about a rumoured 4th album, neither Bill nor I 
    >  could find more than 2 songs not issued on tape....perhaps
    >  someone knows something?? beyond rumours?.....best to you 
    >  all...Joe Foster
    
    
    Joe:
    Thanks for setting me straight about the bootlegs. I saw 
    them listed on one of the big music sites and so assumed 
    them to be legitimate. Of course I agree that the artists 
    involved deserve royalties for their work...your efforts 
    on behalf of Boettcher's estate are admirable indeed. It's
    really too bad he isn't here today to see the renewed 
    interest in his recordings, which only seems to be growing.
    
    Sorry if it sounded like I was griping about the price, 
    but with two small kids and only my less-than-gargantuan 
    wages keeping beans and rice on the table, $30 discs are 
    not a luxury I can indulge in with much regularity. 
    However, this is not your problem, but mine. 
    
    Re:the Sunshine Company disc...You and Kingsley have put 
    my mind at ease...I eagerly await its arrival...I'll try 
    to post a review. 
    
    Thanks
    Todd McMullen
    
    n.p. Sunshine Days Vol. 2
    
    
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    Subject:     Liquid Room Playlist
    Sent:        10/18/19 4:23 am
    Received:    10/21/99 2:41 am
    >From:        Ponak, David, david.xxxxxcom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
    
    Ok folks, here it is! The first ever email playlist for my
    weekly show on KPFK, "The Liquid Room." If you want to be 
    removed from the list, just let me know. Feel free to 
    forward to anyone else who might care. (My thanks to Chris
    Carter for inspiring me to do this)
    
    The Liquid Room airs every Saturday morning (Friday night)
    >from 3-6AM on 90.7FM KPFK.
    
    Saturday October 16:
    
    
    1.The Comittee - California My Way - Happy Together-
     - The Best Of White Whale Records - Varese Sarabande
    
    2.The Raymakers - Love-Lee - (Demo-great LA electronic pop
    group!)
    
    3.Count Basie - Walk Don't Run - This Time By Basie 
    Reprise 
    
    4.Pet Shop Boys - You Only Tell Me You Love Me.. - 
    Nightlife Sire 
    
    5.Aluminum Group - Rrose Selvay's Valise - Pedals Minty 
    Fresh 
    
    6.Underworld - Jumbo - Beaucoup Fish V2
    
    7.Peppermint Trolley - Trust - s/t ACTA 
    
    8.Super Furry Animals - Something's Come.. - Guerilla 
    Flydaddy 
    
    9.First Moog Quartet - Hey Hey - Best Of Moog Loud
    
    10.Lalo Schifrin - Scorpio's Theme - The Dirty Harry 
    Anthology - Aleph
    
    11.DJ Me DJ You - Take Your Medication - Simple Machine 
    Rock Emperor Norton
    
    12.FPM - You Must Learn (Swamp Remix) - Int'l Standard 
    Remixes (US) - Emperor Norton
    
    13.Soul Ecstacy - Soul Submarine - Soul Ecstacy (
    Soundtrack) Emperor Norton
    
    14.Basement Jaxx - Rendez Vouz - Remedy Astralwerks
    
    15.The Who - Armenia City In The Sky - The Who Sell Out MCA
    
    16.The Beta Band - It's Not Too Beautiful - s/t Astralwerks
    
    17.Lee Hazlewood - Bye Babe - 40 LHI
    
    18.Magnetic Fields - Promises Of Eternity - 69 Love Songs 
    Vol. 2 Merge
    
    19.Bertand Bugalat - Sacha Pop - Quadrille Soundtrack 
    Tricatel
    
    20.Stereolab - Blue Milk - Cobra And Phases Group.... - 
    Elektra
    
    21.Corduroy - The Addison Tapes - Click Pony Canyon
    
    22.Lalo Schifrin - Rush Hour (Main Title) - Rush Hour 
    Soundtrack - Aleph
    
    23.High Llamas - Bach Ze - Snowbug V2
    
    24.Harpers Bizarre - Funny How Love Can Be - The Secret 
    Life Of Harpers Bizarre - WB
    
    25.Jungle Bros. - Get Down - 12" single V2
    
    26.Milton Nascimento - Beat It (Michael Jackson cover!) - 
    Crooner WB
    
    27.Saint Etienne - Find Me A Boy - The Misadventures Of 
    Saint Etienne - L'Appareil-Photo
    
    28.Johnny Rivers - Roscrans Blvd - Rewind Liberty
    
    29.Eternity's Children - Lifetime Day - s/t Rev-ola
    
    30.Michel Polnareff - Miss Blue Jeans - Les Premiere Anees
    (3 disc box set) - Universal
    
    31.My Other Self - Revolution 10 - demo
    
    32.Craig Armstrong - Let's Go Out Tonight - Space Between 
    Us Melakolic
    
    33.Paul Williams - Morning I'll Be Moving On - Someday Man
    WB
    
    PS: You can also hear me on the net at www.spikeradio.com 
    Monday and Wednesday evenings from 8-10, PDT.
    
    David 
    
    
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