________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Expressing the feelings of the young mind of today ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 7 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 71: 1. FIRST WAVE CD to be released next week From: "Brad Elliott" 2. Re: Pete Anders - Vinnie Poncia From: Andrew Hickey 3. Vinnie Poncia & Pete Andreoli (Anders) From: Geri & John Clemente 4. Pete Meets Vinnie From: "Jamie LePage" 5. Upcoming Usher related CDs From: "Ron Weekes" 6. a newbie says hello From: "Jennifer Sullivan" 7. The Tradewinds From: Dean Scapolo ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:22:04 -0600 From: "Brad Elliott" Subject: FIRST WAVE CD to be released next week At long last, my 2-CD compilation of the entirety of The Beach Boys' 1961-62 Hite Morgan-produced recording sessions is being released. FIRST WAVE: THE COMPLETE HITE MORGAN SESSIONS is set for release next Wednesday, Dec. 20, on my Surf's Up Records label, and I'm now taking orders on my website: www.surfsuprecords.com. Full information on the 2-CD set is posted on the site, including an image of the cover and a detailed track lineup. The album is available only by mail order; it will not be for sale in stores. At my website, you can order copies via an online Secure Server or, if you have an unreasonable fear of ordering merchandise over the Internet :-), instructions are provided for other means of ordering it. I hope everybody finds this release to be an interesting and worthwhile look into the genesis of The Beach Boys as a recording group. Surf's up! Brad Elliott Surf's Up Records --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Pete Anders - Vinnie Poncia > Does anyone have any information on these 2 guys who > worked and wrote songs for Phil Spector. I know they > were the Tradewinds, maybe the Innocence, and some > others. Is there a list of their "group"? Dunno about Anders, but a Vinnie Poncia (presumably the same one) co-wrote and played on half a dozen songs on Ringo Starr's 'Ringo' album. Possibly other Starr solo albums as well - that's the only one I have. ===== Buy the new Stealth Munchkin album - www.geocities.com/stealth_munchkin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:28:36 -0500 From: Geri & John Clemente Subject: Vinnie Poncia & Pete Andreoli (Anders) Hi, In answer to Michael Gessner's quest for info, Vinnie Poncia and Pete Andreoli were singers/songwriters from Providence, Rhode Island who came to New York to make their fortune. They were in a group called The Videls, who had a mild hit with "Mr. Lonely" on JDS Records in 1960. After the group folded, they got more into songwriting and were introduced to Spector through a mutual business associate, staying long enough to write "(Best Part Of) Breakin' Up" and "Do I Love You" for The Ronettes, "Stumble and Fall" for Darlene Love, the seriously obscure "Please Be My Boyfriend" and the unreleased "Mary Ann" for The Crystals, among others. Vinnie Poncia moved into producing for Leo Sayer and Melissa Manchester. I don't know what became of Pete Andreoli (Anders). Part of this info came from "He's A Rebel" by Mark Ribowsky. Regards, John Clemente --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:30:25 -0000 From: "Jamie LePage" Subject: Pete Meets Vinnie Michael Gessner wrote: > Does anyone have any information on these 2 guys who > worked and wrote songs for Phil Spector. I know they > were the Tradewinds, maybe the Innocence, and some > others. I spot checked the archives because I had the impression Anders and Poncia were often discussed here. They are one of the missing links between Brill-era girl group pop and soft pop of the later 60s, having been staff writers for Hill & Range for Spector etc. before recording three singles for Red Bird (including the classic "New York's a Lonely Town") and later recording for Artie Ripp's Kama Sutra operation (where they released discs under the names Tradewinds and Innocence). It was Ripp who introduced them to Don Ciccone, the lead singer for the Critters. Later there was a great single on Buddah by Pete Anders ("Sunrise Highway"). Much of this material has been reissued on CD: both the Tradewinds and Innocence albums, plus a full CDs worth of "Anders and Poncia Rarities". I recommend both. Surprisingly, though, not too much came up in the group archives, mostly discussion on Mary Ann produced by Jerry Ross and of course Ringo I Love You. They made one single for Spector under the name "The Treasures" (a cover of Len/Mac's Hold Me TIght), and I believe if memory serves they were on one or both of the Annette label 45s.. I wrote a bit more about them previously and you can find that here: Spectropop V#0264 Regards, Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:34:16 -0700 From: "Ron Weekes" Subject: Upcoming Usher related CDs Thanks to Jamie for the heads up on the three Gary Usher/Curt Boettcher/Brian Wilson related CDs that are coming out next year on the Dreamsville label in Japan. Stephen McParland has provided some additional information. He has done the liners for the CALIFORNIA CD. He also says : the material is coming from the Usher Family Archive. CALIFORNIA is from MASTER TAPES and some acetates; BLUE MARBLE Is from a mint album (no masters could be found) and SYMPHONIC is from the master. So the question is, will any labels release this material in the States? If not, who is a reasonable priced retailer that I could mail order this material from? Ron Weekes www.garyusher.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:41:18 -0500 From: "Jennifer Sullivan" Subject: a newbie says hello I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Jennifer and I'm a 23 yr old 60s dj in Boston. My main reason for joining this list is that I'm obsessed with girlpop (both old and new) I love any of the stuff the sequel label puts out (here come the girls etc), the feminine complex, margo guryan (who i'm pen pals with!), and lesley gore ... and newer stuff like velocette, comet gain... my favorite band of ALL time is the zombies. this summer I flew to england to see rod and colin perform and met them!! highlight of my life thus far!! well before I start to ramble I'll close. Look forward to learning loads more about good music!! --Jennifer --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:17:13 +1300 From: Dean Scapolo Subject: The Tradewinds Hi all, Vinnie Poncia and Pete Andreoli were indeed both the Trade Winds and the Innocence. They first recorded with the Videls,and later did backing vocalsfor the 1910 Fruitgum Company. Poncia later produced albums for Ringo Starr and Melissa Manchester. This is according to my US top 100 chart book. I have all four chart singles of the Trade Winds and the Innocence, and they are very rare. Dean. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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