http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ The most trusted name in sound ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 11 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 78: 1. Re: Mortimer From: Alec Palao 2. Chad and Jeremy From: Glenn Sadin 3. Kirsty MacColl From: "Ian Chapman" 4. Lawsuit by BBs From: Carol Kaye 5. Beach Boys in Feud Over Early Tunes From: Spectropop Admin 6. Re: Talmy/Boston From: Stewart Mason 7. Re: Reply to Jason Penick From: Carol Kaye 8. Bosstown From: Glenn Sadin 9. You Don't Need Ribbons When You Have A Bow - from Gary P. Spector From: Gary Spector 10. Merry Xmas! From: "Stratton Bearhart" 11. FOR YOU ****JUST FOR YOU From: Joey Stec ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:44:53 -0800 From: Alec Palao Subject: Re: Mortimer Nice to see the great Mortimer LP mentioned here, its one of those little obscure little treasures, like Jamme, the Holy Mackerel, Stephen Monahan and the Moon's "Without Earth", that one pulls out to cheer oneself up every so often. Can't add anything definite to the Apple connection, only that it was indeed supposed to be Macca's "Two Of Us" that Mortimer were to record. It may be that group were due to sign to Apple's publishing wing though. One of the best tunes on the Mortimer LP "Singing In The Sunshine" was covered faithfully a few years ago by the band Cardinal [Eric Matthews/Richard Davies]. Merry Xmas Alec --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:30:01 -0800 From: Glenn Sadin Subject: Chad and Jeremy Since we're talking about Chad and Jeremy, are any of you familiar with a peculiar LP that came out in the early '60s on a label called Fidu? (Their logo is a poodle!) The title is "The Best of C & J" (or something like that - my record collection is not nearby), and its almost certainly an early bootleg. The funniest thing about it is on the back cover are a number of small photos of the boys, except one of the photos is of Peter and Gordon! Glenn Sadin Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the 1990s: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:12:27 -0000 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Kirsty MacColl I was both shocked and saddened this week to hear of the sudden death of Kirsty MacColl in a freak speedboat collision while diving in Mexico. Kirsty was one of the UK's finest-ever singer-songwriting talents, and although her career began at the end of the 70s, her wide-ranging repertoire of clever and witty songs included several 60s derivatives, such as the girl-group-influenced "They Don't Know" and "Terry", both covered by Tracey Ullman. Kirsty originally recorded both those songs herself, and her version of "Terry" (and the video that went with it) is fantastic. "He's On The Beach" was in a similar vein, later covered by the Lemonheads. Other Kirsty singles included covers of Little Eva's "Keep Your Hands Off My Baby" and a beautifully ethereal reading of Brian Wilson's "You Still Believe In Me". She could also be heard singing background on the Smiths' 80s cover of the 60s Twinkle hit "Golden Lights". A sad loss indeed. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:03:25 -0800 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Lawsuit by BBs Just to let you know, David Leaf just verified this for me too....the Beach Boys (including Brian Wilson) have filed an injunction and lawsuit against the "record companies" Deck Records and Surf's Up Records for illegally using their material for their own financial gain. It's very strange when the ethics of people get so bad that they think it's alright to use creative materials belonging to others - there's a name for that: theft....such is the kind of country we're starting to become.....my thoughts and wishes (as are others of my studio musician group I'm sure) are for the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson in this lawsuit against greedy people trying to make a living off of their BB creations. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ I called it right to start with even tho' some (who bought purloined materials in the past) didn't like it. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:53:15 +0900 From: Spectropop Admin Subject: Beach Boys in Feud Over Early Tunes ADMIN NOTE: In an effort to prevent any misunderstanding among Group Members about the dispute over ownership of the so-called Hite Morgan tapes and related allegation that Deck Records has failed to account and pay the respective artist royalties, the following news stories, culled from Yahoo! News service, are forwarded to the Group herewith. The Surf's Up! web site was updated on December 22, 2000, and at present appears to have ceased all ecommerce activity. This despite the recent announcement to the Spectropop Group that the complete Hite Morgan sessions, which Associated Press reports as having been licensed by Deck Records to Surf's Up!, were to be available for sale at the Surf's Up! site. http://www.surfsuprecords.com http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=%22Deck+Records%22 Friday December 22 07:00 PM EST Beach Boys, First Label Share Bad Vibrations (12/22/00, 06 p.m. ET) - The Beach Boys aren't having any "fun, fun, fun" these days, especially when it comes to their first record company. The group is involved in a set of lawsuits with Deck Records, the home-based label for which the Beach Boys recorded nine songs in 1962, including "Surfin' Safari" and "Surfer Girl." Brian Wilson, Mike Love, and Al Jardine have filed an $80 million suit against Deck and Surf's Up! Records, which has been selling the recordings over the Internet. Deck owner Bruce Morgan -- the son of label founders Hite and Dorinda Morgan -- has counter-sued for $5 million, claiming the Beach Boys breached a 1962 agreement involving the songs. The case is expected to be heard in Los Angeles federal court early in the new year. Thursday December 21 3:40 PM ET Beach Boys in Feud Over Early Tunes LOS ANGELES (AP) - The Beach Boys and their former record company are suing each other, both claiming they own "Surfin' Safari" and some of the band's other early recordings. The bad vibrations involve six records made in 1962 at the home of the late Dorinda and Hite Morgan, founders of Deck Records. Their son, Bruce Morgan, filed a $5 million suit in federal court Wednesday claiming the Beach Boys broke a 1962 agreement involving the records, which include "Surfin' Safari." Lawyers for surviving band members Brian Wilson, Mike Love and Al Jardine have filed suit against Deck Records and Surf's Up! Records. The band claims they own the material and Morgan had no right to license Surf's Up! to sell their songs over the Internet. The Beach Boys want royalties on past record sales, estimated at $80 million. *************************************************** ** SPECTROPOP! ** ** Spectacular + Retro + Pop ** ** The legendary 60's pop music discussion group ** ** <http://www.spectropop.com> ** ** Spectropop Admin ** *************************************************** --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:40:54 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Talmy/Boston Jamie LePage writes: >According to AMG, "Talmy cut his teeth in the >record business as an engineer in L.A. in the early >1960s. In 1962 he turned a European vacation into a job >in Britain when he played acetates of Beach Boys and Lou >Rawls songs to Dick Rowe of Decca Records, claiming them >as his own productions (although they weren't)." > >That's a pretty amazing story! Anyone know where Talmy >worked in LA? Maybe at the tower? (Both artists >namechecked were on Capitol.) According to the chapter on Talmy in Richie Unterberger's excellent new book URBAN SPACEMEN AND WAYFARING STRANGERS, Talmy got those acetates from his buddy Nik Venet, who had produced both sessions and was willing to let Talmy take credit for them to blag his way into a job in England. According to the book, Talmy had never produced a session in his life at this point, though he'd had some training as an engineer, and that by the time Decca found out he'd been lying, he'd already had a hit record. >**Very Best of Chad & Jeremy on Varese >(concentrates on the World Artists sides from 1964-1965, >including all of the hit singles plus four songs from >1965-1966 Columbia singles) Definitely the best of the handful of compilations out there--best sound, most thorough selection. Jimmy Botticelli writes: >Its nice to see the Bosstown Sound of the Sexties >brought up here. I was there and remember the hype >very well. And make no mistake, it WAS hype. It >started with local DJ Dick Summer who, perhaps >schilling for M-G-M Records following his successful 2 >hour AM Sunday night "Subway" show on WBZ, began >urging us all to "wear an 's' and spread the sound". >The 's' was supposed to be a paperclip we bent to form >said 's'. Many were called but few were chosen to make >the sound work. It even got a Time magazine story. >After all was said and done, rest assured that far >more was said than done, and there remained but a >handful of bands with record contracts, mostly on >M-G-M. I think that for this list the sound of Orpheus >best exemplifies the soft pop sound. Many of the bands >were San Francisco sound knockoffs, or had listened to >Jimi Hendrix' "Foxy Lady" a few too many times....Oh >well, thanks for the indulgence > >James Botticelli I've heard that when Mike Curb took over MGM Records and made his famous pledge to drop all drug-related bands off the label, it was actually both an attempt to score points with the Republicans who installed him as Lt. Governor of California later *and* a way to dump the Bosstown bands after all their albums flopped! If anyone wants to hear some prime Boston/New England psych-pop other than the Bosstown hype, Erik Lindgren's Arf Arf Records has released some often-fascinating obscurities. A HEAVY DOSE OF LITE PSYCH is a good starting point, and I also particularly like a CD he put out combining a surprisingly good album by a group called the Flat Earth Society which was given away as a premium by Waleeco candy bars and an unreleased audio storybook with songs called SPACE KIDS, with music written and performed by The Lost, a semi-legendary Boston '60s band featuring a young Willie Alexander on organ and vocals. Stewart, who although he lives in Albuquerque has a pair of WMBR stickers on his car --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:38:46 -0800 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Reply to Jason Penick > From: Jason Penick > Subject: Question for Ms. Kaye > > Just wanted to wish all the Spectropoppers a happy > holiday season! Ms Kaye, I spoke with Merrell > Fankhauser recently, and he informed me that you were > one of the musicians who played on the track for his > late-1968 version of "Everybody's Talkin'", recorded at > Gold Star. I was wondering if you have any remembrances > of working on this session, or with Merrell in general. > He's a brilliant west-coast musician who's been putting > out great records from 1962 to today, yet gets very > little credit for his role in the scenes he's helped > develop (surf, folk-rock, psychedelia and many more). > Also, I was curious about the time you spent with the > Association working on Insight Out! and Birthday with > Bones Howe... were these the only sessions you cut with > them? How did you relate to the guys personally? > Thanks! > Jason Penick Jason, I've got that question out to Russ Wapensky, keeper of the data on his computer of our Union contracts. The name of "Everybody's Talkin'" is very familiar - I never listen to any of those old recordings, sorry.....I only listen to the music I play (jazz) and some classical music, so am not up on those oldies. Sorry, names do escape me - you literally meet and work with 100s of people all the time, especially back then when there was so much recording going on (in those years - it was 12-16 hours a day). I'd probably know Merrill if I saw him and talked with him a little bit....that probably did happen but unless it's someone really familiar I worked a lot for all the time, Quincy Jones etc., then I could remember more. That's too bad he didn't get his recognition....that sometimes happens in this business, more often than not. Studio musicians still don't get their recognition for all the fine work they did...the public still believes the 60s groups "played on their own things" so studio musicians all know the frustration someone of Merrill's calibre goes through, altho' personally I've been known for decades out there because of all the tutoring books I've written (my column also in Guitar Player Magazine in the 70s etc.) - was a lot of work moving all those books - operating a publishing company is different than song publishing...tons of work and not a lot of profit either even tho' I sold probably 1/2 million books etc. -- song-publishing is just the opposite, no work and a lot of money. I remember doing some Association things, I'd have to listen to them to decipher which....I know there were some hits I played on for them - they're in my log quite a few times in a stretch there. And yes, I did work for Bones Howe a few times (even a couple of dates with Johnny Rivers, others)....but usually it was pretty unmemorable, sorry I have to tell it like it was.....I go with feelings and playing with feelings and just never got memorable feelings on the dates with Bones. I like and admire Bones, always have....and we got along just fine but his dates just weren't the same as with other people I worked for so I don't remember that much but yes, did do those and others with the Association, I'm sure.....they were all tracking dates >from what I recall which means you usually don't come into contact much with the singers....sorry, don't have any memories of them much personally....sort of a blank to me remembering the details of the dates altho' the music was pretty good. Sorry I can't help you more but will write what Russ says as soon as he answers my email. Best, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:34:20 -0800 From: Glenn Sadin Subject: Bosstown >Its nice to see the Bosstown Sound of the Sexties >brought up here. I was there and remember the hype >very well. Hey James - Did you ever see THE REMAINS live?????? Glenn Sadin Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the 1990s: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:43:01 PST From: Gary Spector Subject: You Don't Need Ribbons When You Have A Bow - from Gary P. Spector Hello! Gary P. Spector has just sent you a greeting card >from Bluemountain.com. 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