Spectropop V#0054

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 Vol #0054    03/20/98
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  Visual Sound Stereo




Subject:     Re: Inherent Quality of Music
Sent:        3/16/98 3:45 PM
Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
From:        BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com

From:        Brent Kubasta, bkubaXXX@XXXXXXccc.edu
 
 > Bash wrote:

>>if indeed there is inherent quality in music, ...it 
>>has existed in the same measure in every decade.

> Couldn't agree more.

<< couldn't *disagree* more. 

no problem with the acknowledgment of "inherent quality in 
music" in every decade. but to assert that "it has existed 
in the same measure in every decade" seems a bit over the 
top.

such a perspective logically implies that when comparing 
decades there will therefore be no peaks, valleys, golden 
eras, or renaissance periods. after all, the level of 
quality exists "in the same measure" in each decade, right?

i don't bring this up because i favor one decade over 
another. indeed, anyone is free to prefer what they prefer. 
i mention it because i don't think such a, shall we say, 
qualitative equilibrium is possible in any artform. how 
could it be?>>

Hi Brent,

You bring up a valid point, and perhaps I should have amended 
the phrase "same measure" to read "similar measure". With 
that in mind, I stand behind my assertion that the quality 
level between decades is not significantly different, and that 
most people who cite a particular decade for being heads or 
tales above the rest are doing it with a bias that is very 
difficult for them to escape from.

<>

This may indeed be true, but couldn't someone say that about 
the 70s as well, or even the 80s or 90s? Okay, perhaps the 
term "rock 'n roll" would have to be qualified a bit in those 
decades, but who says "rock 'n roll" has more inherent quality 
than another form of pop music?

<>

Good point about the 45 being the only game in town, and 
thereby causing albums to be more limited in quantity than 
they may be now. Still, many people could make just as long 
as list, if not a longer one, from other decades. Those 
people may not be on the Spectropop list, but that doesn't 
make their opinions any less valid.

<>

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the world, at least a 
few million, who wouldn't feel that "magical feeling" at all. 
Certainly I'm not here to say that I don't feel it, because I 
do, but I'll admit to being biased by my own life's 
circumstances. What about people who are under 20 years of 
age, like we were in the 60s. What, their opinions don't 
count?

<>

I will agree with you that the 60s was probably rock 'n roll's 
most brilliant and creative decade but if you look at my 
original post, I used the term "music", and not rock 'n roll. 
Even if I had used the term "rock 'n roll", I'd pretty much 
stand by my original contention. If today's albums don't hold 
up with the albums of the 60s, a major reason for that might 
be inherent in the fact that rock 'n roll was, as an album 
medium, in its embryonic period then. There was so much that 
was new to discover, and there will always be a built in 
fondness and rememberance of that kind of time. 

As for Brian Wilson's quote, as much as Brian Wilson is far 
and away my favorite music writer, isn't it obvious that he is 
a victim to the exact bias I have been referring to?

<>

Me neither!

<>

Well, I'm a fan of stereo over mono, but I do submit that 60s 
albums, if they existed on vinyl in both formats, should be 
reissued on PVC that way. Most 60s albums are under 39 
minutes long, so they could comfortably fit in both formats on 
a 78 minute CD. Several of them, as you know, have been 
reissued that way already, and I love it!
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David

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Subject:     Bobby Vee
Sent:        3/16/98 7:07 AM
Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com

Bobby Vee DID record "It Might As Well Rain Until September." 
It ended up on his "Night Has A Thousand Eyes" LP, along with 
another original record, "Go Away Little Girl." Bobby had too 
many songs that were too good to put them all out on 45s, so 
people like Carole and Steve Lawrence had the hits.

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Subject:     Liberty Records
Sent:        3/16/98 7:07 AM
Received:    3/17/98 1:10 AM
From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
To:          Spectropop  List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com

More than one person has inquired about my book, so here's the 
lowdown.
					                    Liberty Records
                               By
                 Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, Ph.D.
                         Published 1983

docroXXX@XXXXXXom

Available from:
A. McFarland Publishing, 01 -800-253-2187  $75 plus $3 p&h.
B. Local bookstores, $75 (may have to special order)
or C. The author (me), $50 plus $5 postage, autographed (by me),
Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly
3724 Woodmont Road
Toledo, Ohio  43613-4831

                            Contents

                            Part One
                    Anatomy of a Record Label

65 original interviews, 250 illustrations, 782 pages, complete
discographies, hardback.
Names in ALL CAPS indicate selected interviews.

Introduction                                             2 pages
Preface by SI WARONKER, founder of Liberty Records       4 pages
Chapter 1  Rock and Roll Record Labels                   9 pages
Chapter 2  Liberty in the Beginning                     13 pages
Chapter 3  1955  The Liberty Girl, JULIE LONDON         11 pages
Chapter 4  1956  The Little Liberty Girls, 05 pages 
           Patience and Prudence
Chapter 5  1957  Eddie Cochran (interview with sister and  
           nephew), SNUFF GARRETT                       38 pages
           SHARON SHEELEY, Margie Rayburn
Chapter 6  1958  "Witch Doctor" and the Chipmunks       16 pages
Chapter 7  1959  BOBBY VEE, Martin Denny,               47 pages
           Dolton Records, the FLEETWOODS, Frantics, 
           Little Bill and the Blue Notes
Chapter 8  1960  Johnny Burnette, BUDDY KNOX            41 pages
           Ernie Freeman, THE VENTURES
Chapter 9  1961  Avnet, Gene McDaniels, Timi Yuro,      49 pages
           Vic Dana, Troy Shondel, DICK AND DEEDEE
Chapter 10 1962  CRICKETS, JAN & DEAN, Marketts,        58 pages
           RIVINGTONS, DANNY AND GWEN, Walter Brennan,
           JACKIE DESHANNON, Willie Nelson, Vikki Carr,
           LENNY WARONKER (prez of WB Records)
Chapter 11 1963  Ricky Nelson, Fats Domino, and         61 pages
           More from Bobby Vee, Jan & Dean, Jackie 
           DeShannon, the Fleetwoods and the Crickets
Chapter 12 1964  Matt Monroe, BILLY J KRAMER            34 pages
           with the Dakatos, the Searchers, the Beatles,
           Irma Thomas, Johnny Rivers, the Swinging Blue 
           Jeans, the Hollies
Chapter 13 1965  GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS,           57 pages
           P. J. Proby, T-Bones, HAL BLAINE, O'Jays,
           Jimmy McCracklin, Cher
Chapter 14 Liberty Stereo Little LPs, EPs, 78's, and     7 pages
           Picture Sleeves                                          
Chapter 15 1966  Bob Lind, Del Shannon                  21 pages
Chapter 16 Liberty Acquisitions, Special Series,        45 pages
           and Subsidiaries
Chapter 17 1967  Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Vikki Carr,    15 pages
           Hardtimes, Love Generation, Sunshine Company
           Classics IV     and the 5th Dimension
Chapter 18 1968  Canned Heat, 06 pages
           Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich
Chapter 19 1969  The 5th Dimension and Also Rans         4 pages
Chapter 20 1970  Ike and Tina Turner, Sugarloaf          3 pages
Chapter 21 1971  Liberty in the End                      4 pages

                            Part Two
                 Making Liberty Hit Record Hits          4 pages
Chapter 22 Music Publishing -- Metric Music             14 pages
           (LOU ADLER)
Chapter 23 Record Producing                             12 pages
           (SNUFF GARRETT)
Chapter 24 Recording Music                              14 pages
           (STAN ROSS, Owner Goldstar Studio)
           (FANITA OF THE BLOSSOMS, TOMMY ALSUP>   
Chapter 25 Engineering a Hit                            26 pages
          (BONES HOWE)
Chapter 26 Picturing Music                               6 pages
Chapter 27 Promting Records                             36 pages
Chapter 28 Publicity                                     6 pages
Chapter 29 Selling Records                               6 pages
Chapter 30 Distributing Records                          6 pages
Chapter 31 Merchandising Records                         4 pages
Chapter 32 Radio Air Play                               11 pages
           (JIMMY O'NEAL of Shindig)

                           Part Three
                     Four Liberty Superstars
Chapter 33 BOBBY VEE                                    39 pages
Chapter 34 THE VENTURES                                 22 pages
Chapter 35 JACKIE DESHANNON                             20 pages
Chapter 36 JAN & DEAN                                   61 pages

                            Part Four
                       The End of Liberty
Chapter 37 Selling Liberty . . . and Selling It         13 pages
           and Selling It
Chapter 38 Life After Liberty                            7 pages
Chapter 39 Overview                                      5 pages
Epilogue 40 Where Did They Go? (What artists did 
        after their hit stopped)                        30 pages


                           Appendices
Appendix 1  The #1 Hits
Appendix 2  Artists in the Top 200
Appendix 3  Liberty, Dolton, Imperial and Soul City
            Top Rankings
Appendix 4  The Top Liberty, Dolton, and
            Imperial Hit Makers
Appendix 5  The Top 30 Liberty Family Artists
Appendix 6  Percent Success
Appendix 7  Chronological Hit Lists
Appendix 8  Graphs of Hits per Year
Appendix 9  Top 100 Liberty, Dolton,
            and Imperial Artists                                     
     
Appendix 10 Top 100 Hits Listed Chronologically
Appendix 11 Singles Discography
Appendix 12 Liberty LP Discography
Appendix 13 Liberty Family 45 Sleeves and Labels
+ 5 groups of illustrations

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