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There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop.
Topics in this Digest Number 85:
1. Nitzsche "Lonely Surfer" CD release
From: "Spector Collector"
2. The speed of the Internet! Jack, Jackie & PJ too
From: "Martin Roberts"
3. Re: Spector Soundalikes
From: "Mike"
4. Faux Spector
From: David Ponak
5. Wanted: Brill Building Box Set
From: Eddie
6. Re: Jack Nitzsche
From: "Leighanne Nitzsche"
7. Re: lawsuits - rights - credits
From: Andrew Hickey
8. Boss Town
From: Gary Mollica
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 01:34:30 -0000
From: "Spector Collector"
Subject: Nitzsche "Lonely Surfer" CD release
The good news: at long last, Jack Nitzsche's classic
"The Lonely Surfer" album is being reissued on a
legitimate CD by Collector's Choice Music. Here's a link
to the ordering information:
http://www.ccmusic.com/ccm_detail.cgi?item_code=CCM0195
The bad news: unlike on the recent bootleg, there's not a
bonus track in sight on this disc. It's hard for me to
imagine how the CCM folks blew it to this extent given
the care they usually pour into their proprietary
releases, since there are so many worthy contemporary
singles that would have fit perfectly with the album cuts.
And when the heck is someone going to release his
soundtrack music from "Village of the Giants," which also
would have been a great stylistic match, bonus-track-wise?
In any case, the CD's due out in two weeks, as is the
Honeys compilation CCM has been postponing since its
originally announced October release date.
David A. Young
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:03:35 -0000
From: "Martin Roberts"
Subject: The speed of the Internet! Jack, Jackie & PJ too
Question posted 18/12/99 by Jake Tassell any more
Nitzsche/Proby tracks beside PJ's Enigma LP's two
offerings 'I Can't Make It Alone' & 'You Make Me Feel
Like Someone' answered in part 10/09/00 by Steve
Todoroff who replied with Proby's 'So Do I' (Johnny Cash
style but not bad)/I Can't Take It Like You Can' US
Liberty 45. Now my turn over a year later! (I've been
busy for the last few months building a Wall Of Sound
for my record collection- sure makes it easier finding
them. Caught up with Spectropop listings just after
Christmas)Now possibly with more questions than answers
part 3.
Jack Nitzsche is in my opinion up there with the premier
league top pop hitters Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, Gary
Usher, Greenwich/Barry, Goffin/King, Irving Martin, Bob
Crewe and a fair few others-but you know what I mean-all
names that if you see on a dusty 45 and don't know the
track (certainly early 60's to mid 60's), you buy them
and 9 times out of 10 you've got a winner. Certainly the
original question deserves an answer.
'I Can't.....(my favourite of many by PJ)/'If I Ruled
The World' 45 released in the US LIB#55915 (nice pic
sleeve) credits Nitzsche with producing both sides. He
didn't it was pr. Ron Richards arr. Johnnie Spence. Great
voice 'English' production. The UK release LIB#10250
plain sleeve but excellent B-side credits Jack with
producing and it is also co-written with George Dempsey.
Not as good as 'I Can't ......' but not many records are!
Two other Proby tracks I think Jack may have been
involved in are Jackie De Shannon comps. The earlist
PJ's 2nd 45 US LIB#55505 'The Other Side Of Town' co-wr
with Sharon Sheeley is credited on the label as a Dick
Glasser production (who Jack & Jackie both worked with)
an excellent track which has turned up on the latest UK
RPM release of Sharon Sheeley's claimed early 60's
productions. Mainly demos co written with Jackie De S.
that DeShannon is also credited with producing. Wonder
if her mate Jack was also in the studio. The two
versions LIB 45 & RPM's cd are the same. I guess Dick
was just picking up the royality cheque! The 2nd is also
a nice song which backed 'Somewhere' a huge UK hit. No
production credits on this, would we belive them anyway?
Sorry I can't remember his name but a Spectropoppy was
asking about records to buy by Jackie de Shannon, lots! .
You can't start any better than by buying 1994's 'What
the world needs now is...Jackie De Shannon, The
Definitive Collection cd. My copy is UK EMI but I'm sure
there was also a USA release. Superb! The cd remix by Ron
Furmanek & Kevin Reeves is interesting, maybe too 'clean'
and lacking the power of the original 45's, especially
true on my favourite by her the Charles Blackwell
produced 'Don't Turn Your Back On Me' However if you get
the cd you'll want to get the original to have Nitzsche's
co-wr 'Be Good Baby'. 28 tracks inc. unreleased, 06 of
them Jack Nitzsche arr.'s./(possible prods.). The first
track is of historical intrest but the next eleven are
essential for any Spector/Girl Group devotee. Lots of
other good ones but as with a lot of her recordings I
find some a bit lightweight. However there isn't one of
her 60's albums that hasn't got at least 3 good tracks
(well maybe Jackie's first folky album!)
Martin
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:20:27 -0800
From: "Mike"
Subject: Re: Spector Soundalikes
>In response to Hans' "What does a 'Spector soundalike'
>sound like??
Well, the nice thing for us Gg collectors is that there
are literally thousands of Phil spector Soundalikes.....
....if you can find them. Thats the hard part, because
most never made the charts and were pressed in very
small quantities. The ones that seem to surface more are
the ones that were produced for major labels......every
so often, some guy in the reissue department at one of
the majors gets his bosses to allow a GG comp of songs
that they own, so it doesnt cost much to issue. "Dream
Babies" was like that.
The Cd series "The Wall of Sound" and "The Girl Group
Sound" are probably the best source for the average
collector. Past, that, its studying mailing lists in
Goldmine for that never listed Molly Bee 45!!
Mikey
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 09:44:18 -0800
From: David Ponak
Subject: Faux Spector
Those looking to explore "Spector Sound Alikes" might
want to check out a compilation series of such
recordings called "Touch The Wall Of Sound." The discs
were issued by the late, semi-boot Japanese label M&M,
who also issued the "Still I Dream Of It" compilation of
Brian Wilson productions. (Before Japan extended their
copyright protection laws a few years back, these sorts
of unlicensed compilations were legal in Japan.)
Message: 5
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 05:06:01 -0000
From: Eddie
Subject: Wanted: Brill Building Box Set
Seeking Brill Building box set new or in mint
condition. Must be complete.
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 05:11:41 -0000
From: "Leighanne Nitzsche"
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche
Hello! Mu name is Leighanne Nitzsche. Jack was my uncle
and although I never knew him and I don't know you
either I will try to help you out if you help me out.
Steve Nitzsche is jacks younger brother and he is my
father. I have never met him before and I dont know how
to find him. My point is, I will do the best I can to
help you if you help me find my father.
Leighanne Nitzsche
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:10:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: lawsuits - rights - credits
> Why should we care? Because the outcome affects those of
> us interested in seeing continued expansion and
> commercial distribution of vintage recordings. For Pet
> Sounds, Mike Love etc. contractually had artist "
> approval rights" and used them to delay the Pet Sounds
> box for 18 months so new liner notes could be written.
> In this latest BB lawsuit. in the unlikely event the
> court negates the original artist agreement with Hite/
> Deck, my guess is we will never see a session box of the
> Hite Sessions, except perhaps as a bootleg, and certainly
> not as well researched and documented as the set Deck
> licensed to Surf's Up - and that, friends, is the rub.
> Because if the court negates the original contract that
> has been in effect for nearly 40 years, takes away
> ownership from Deck and gives it to the Beach Boys, we
> could see a slew of similar suits by other artists
> against their early labels, and the result could cause
> many recordings to become indefinitely unavailable.
While that is true, there are a couple of points to be
made here - the first being that whether it is
convenient for us or not, the artists should have the
right over their own material. The trend at the moment
is very much against this - see the recent change in
US law to make recordings now count as 'works for
hire', thus making the record company rather than the
artist the legal author of the recording, and *any*
move towards the rights of the artists as opposed to
the record companies is, IMHO, to be welcomed.
The second is that these recordings will *not* be
'indefinitely unavailable' - international copyright
law as it currently stands means that the copyright to
a recording only lasts 50 years - Elvis' recordings
will start going out of copyright in 2004, the Beach
Boys' in 2011, the Beatles' in 2012, and so on, unless
the law is changed. It may well be, but that's a
separate issue. In fact, this would make it very much
in Mike Love's interests, if the BBs regain control of
this music, to allow a well-annotated, well packaged
issue of these recordings in the best possible
quality, for the simple reason that in 10 years' time
anyone can put them out, and people will then buy the
best version. This is presumably also the thinking
behind the recent RCA rejigging of the Elvis back
catalogue...The only way anyone could block the
release of the recordings after 2011 is if any feature
songs that have never been legally commercially
released in any form by anyone, and even there, only
the songwriter or publisher could do so.
Having said all this, I must reiterate that I suspect
Brad is an entirely innocent party caught in the
crossfire here, and I hope he does not suffer from
this lawsuit...
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 14:56:14 -0800
From: Gary Mollica
Subject: Boss Town
> Jimmy Botticelli writes:
> >Its nice to see the Bosstown Sound of the Sexties
> >brought up here. I was there and remember the hype
> >very well. And make no mistake, it WAS hype. It
> >started with local DJ Dick Summer who, perhaps
> >schilling for M-G-M Records following his successful 2
> >hour AM Sunday night "Subway" show on WBZ, began
> >urging us all to "wear an 's' and spread the sound".
> >The 's' was supposed to be a paperclip we bent to form
> >said 's'.
My God, I'd forgoten about the paper clips!!! I was a
huge Subway fan & have been looking for over 30 years
for any airchecks - no-one's got 'em. There's a bunch of
Dick doing his syrupy poetry on WNBC a bit later. I was
such a huge fan that when I got to do a prime-time
punk-rock radio show in college in '77, (everyone else
in the country was doing it on the overnight shifts) I
purposely had it on Sunday nights in honor of Dick.
Wrote him & told him so, & he sent me an autographed
picture.
Just might have to go pick up the Complete Orpheus CD
set today!
best,
Gary Mollica
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