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There are 9 messages in this issue of Spectropop.
Topics in this Digest Number 144:
1. Evie's Amazing
From: Steve Stanley
2. Re: Evie Sands
From: "Peter Lerner"
3. Evie Sands
From: Glynis Ward
4. Spectrophonic
From: James Botticelli
5. Re: Crystals In Stereo
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
6. RE: Stereo Crystals
From: "Phil Chapman"
7. Re: Crystals In Stereo
From: P Underwood
8. For Carol Kaye
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
9. stereo crystals
From: john rausch
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:15:36 -0800
From: Steve Stanley
Subject: Evie's Amazing
Will George wrote:
> I just recently began discovering Evie Sands' music
> (after starting with her recent blues release). She had
> some really wonderful singles in the 60s, which as far as
> I know have never made it to CD. Does anyone know of any
> CD releases of her music?
Hi Will,
Sadly, Evie's AMAZING 1968 A&M LP "Any Way That You Want
Me" has never been reissued. I think that many
Spectropoppers will agree that the A&M catalog is perhaps
the most neglected of all in the sad Polygram/Universal/
MCA mess.
Both sides of her Blue Cat 45 "Take Me For a Little
While" is on the 4CD UK various artist compilation,
"The Red Bird Story."
Evie is still actively making GREAT music and my band
The Now People are going to share a bill with her
sometime soon. Some friends and I had the privilege of
playing with Evie at a Christmas show here in LA. What
a voice.
Steve Stanley
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:10:30 +0100
From: "Peter Lerner"
Subject: Re: Evie Sands
"Will George" wrote:
> I just recently began discovering Evie Sands' music
> (after starting with her recent blues release). She had
> some really wonderful singles in the 60s, which as far as
> I know have never made it to CD. Does anyone know of any
> CD releases of her music?
Yes, Evie's great - and still around. Catch her 1998 CD
"Women in prison" on TrainWreck 009. You can find "The
roll", a rare 60s b-side, on "Rockin' Boppin' Girls
(Titanic 5000) and a few tracks - Take me for a little
while / Run home to your Mama / I can't let go on "The
Red Bird Story" - Charly CD LAB 105. It would be nice do
see someone release her brilliant A&M recordings on CD.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:13:39 -0400
From: Glynis Ward
Subject: Evie Sands
Will:
I have not seen any reissues of Evie Sands music at all.
I love her and have been collecting her records. I am
dying to know her life story too (I am a biography hound).
Does anyone know anything about her, or if anything has
been printed about her.
I also think there were more record releases in the 60's
than have been documented in some record discographies.
Anyone have a list of her songs or records that they
think is fairly complete?
Thanks,
Glynis
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:30:41 EDT
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Spectrophonic
Billy mentioned the stereo Crystals recordings...I
mentioned a whole bunch of Spector stereo recordings I
just got my hands on. Is this something overlooked by
the "Back To Mono" crowd? Or is just too insignificant
to warrant data from the knowledge pool...What gives?
Was the mono man really stereo as well??
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:51:27 -0400
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
Subject: Re: Crystals In Stereo
"Billy G. Spradlin" wrote:
> a "rare stereo" mix of "Da Do
> Ron Ron". I thought it was a 80's remake version, but
> after I downloaded it - yikes, it was the real thing!
> The mix is almost binaural (Use headphones - .
> Can anyone tell me what CD/LP this mix is from?
It isnt!! This is Not a True Stereo mix, altho it does
sound passably like one. It is a "Digitally Extracted
Stereo" mix, meaning that someone loaded the mono track
into Pro Tools, duped the mono into two identical tracks,
then sampled the backing music from the INTRO, where no
vocals are, then used the reduction pallet to remove the
backing leaving the vocal on the right side. However, as
is the problem with the computer aided stereo, the
vocals that remained are SERIOUSLY degraded with the
dreaded computer voice syndrome, that leaves the
"metallic", "robotic" tone to the vocals.
That's how this one was done.
Mikey
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:08:08 +0100
From: "Phil Chapman"
Subject: RE: Stereo Crystals
Bily asks:
>re: stereo "Da Doo Ron Ron"
>Can anyone tell me what CD/LP this mix is from?
I'm curious about this as well - it sounds like the final
(two track) master before Phil overdubbed the tom hits on
the hook lines. I have posted "Then He Kissed Me" and
"Heartbreaker" in a similar format, but I've no idea
where they came from.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:09:01 +0200
From: P Underwood
Subject: Re: Crystals In Stereo
Billy G. Spradlin wrote:
>
> Last night I was doing some searching on Napster (via
> Napagator) and discovered a "rare stereo" mix of "Da Do
> Ron Ron". I thought it was a 80's remake version, but
> after I downloaded it - yikes, it was the real thing!
>
> The only other Crystals in stereo I have heard was "He's
> Sure The Boy I Love" which was on the Warner-Spector
> "Phil Spector's Greatest Hits" Album. That stereo mix has
> Darlene's vocal single-tracked. Are there any more
> Crystals tracks in true stereo? Just curious.
>
Hi This is a good question: what other stereo mixes are
there by the Crystals?
Also here's a quote from Larry Levine in Rob Finnis's
Spector biography:
"I think probably the only time another instrument was
added to the rhythm track was on Da Doo Ron Ron. The
session was pretty straightforward but afterwards Phil
decided that the beat between choruses needed to be
emphasised and Nino Tempo went back in with an ordinary
bass drum and a pair of mallets and dubbed in the 'Da
dum' bass drum thuds between lines. He could never
stomach adding another instrument because he felt it
would never feel like it was part of the flow of the
thing"
And those drum thuds are not on the stereo mix.
Good listening
Paul
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:31:32 -0400
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
Subject: For Carol Kaye
Hello Carol. How nice to see you here, we are all
enjoying your posts and remembrances.
Please settle a bet for me. Did you ever play any of
the Bass tracks on ANY of the Ventures records, and if
so, do you remember which ones? Hal Blaine seems to have
played drums on The Ventures version of "Wipe Out" and
"More"...perhaps you were on that session as well?
thank you So much...a big hello from New York City,
Mikey
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:26:18 -0500
From: john rausch
Subject: stereo crystals
Billy Spradlin wrote:
> Last night I was doing some searching on Napster (via
> Napagator) and discovered a "rare stereo" mix of "Da Do
> Ron Ron". I thought it was a 80's remake version, but
> after I downloaded it - yikes, it was the real thing!
...I recently heard that from Napster also.
Someone told me that it is from an import cd called The
Ultimate Crystals. I have this cd but all the tracks on
my cd are mono. It has been assumed the cd was re
released with the stereo track. Also it is supposed to
have Then He Kissed me in stereo but I have heard that
version too and it is very narrow stereo.
John Rausch
Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sound @
http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/
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